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I have a lift 33 and my match strings have peep rotation. I added two twist to the string and put s peep tuner in the string but there is still rotation.

I tested 4/5/6mm arrows in a 35mph wind. 500gr 4mm w 225gr up front, 461gr 5mm, w 225gr up front, and 420gr 6mm with 115gr up front. The wind drift was 20" shooting from 45yrds on the 6mm. I'd love to see you test wind drift with different arrows/vane configurations

I'm glad you guys mentioned the Match strings. I heard so many great things about the match strings before I got my Lift and I've been pretty disappointed in them. In the last couple months I've had to time my bow twice and adjust for peep twist twice. After TAC in Indiana I'll be going to a set of the VEC99 from Catfish.

I don't understand why bow companies sell a bow for 1000 plus and then include the cheapest strings. Why can't they just upgrade them to better ones.

Mfjj do some testing on a left helical with a right bevel broadhead vs them being in the correct orientation. How much lost of momentum after impact would you get, with the broadhead wanting to change the direction of arrow flight.

Rumor is, Big Sky Tac is moving to Red Lodge next year

Let's go.....seven springs....super excited..

Great podcast. So Bodie stated that he squeezed not pulled. Pull through the shot or squeeze???????

Cool discussion.

MFJJ. I bought a set of gas from you online. Had a hell of a time getting my ATA phase 4 33. They had to send me a new set after one year of shooting my bow.

MFJJ what year is your truck ?.

I seen these 3 faces and clicked faster then a hoyt shoots hahaha.

Im wishing they had a realistic tac.. I don't want to be lobbing arrows at 115 yards.. I want an 80 and in.. shots you'd actually take

Little late on commenting, but my experience with bow hunting whitetail from 10-40yards I've only had 1 duck the arrow this one was 30yards with around a 380gr total arrow weight out of a diamond edge at 70lbs with 28.5 draw had a 3 deer lost from low penetration when hitting front shoulder last year I got a phase4 (same weight and draw as the diamond) and went to an iron will single bevel total weight being 503gr purposely shot a deer in the front shoulder at 25yds to test the setup and got a pass thru. There is a lot of factors on every animal but with my life experiences I believe a little heavier setup with a quality broadhead is awesome and I do think there is a point where going to heavy is unessecary.

See you guys next year in PA!!!

MFJJ always with the excuses.

Did Big Sky last year and South Dakota this year and we enjoyed SD much more, vender village right outside the lodge, then practice range only a few yards past the village, Deadwood was only a few minutes away lots of food and entertainment options, and SD is very affordable. We flew from Ca to Denver and drove 5 hrs up to the Black Hills.

This was awkward. Tim and Dan still obviously hate each other.

I won’t rest until you all make one channel and have brought back Jake

Y’all’s content was peak when you all were together. It’s time to move on and have one main channel that highlights you all as a group, then have all your other individual channels. Grow the main account and have 300k+ followers in a year then in return your individual channels will grow. Go get Jake wherever the heck he is, pay the man. Have Jake and Dan primarily doing the elk hunting, Tim and Josh hunting too and taking care of camp. You all need each other, each of you has a role and you all could be something special. Please have mercy on us all.

Where Joel has helped with the mental aspect, Josh has helped with the technical. I've gone from helpless and clueless to working on all my own stuff because of guys like MFJJ and a few others. Probably a lot of people can say that. Thanks 🙏

I would be interested to see MFJJ do a review on an xpedition xlite. I know that they had a booth at TAC Big Sky and they also come with ABB platinum series strings from the factory.

Agree 100 on those Match Strings I went through 2 sets in roughly 1500 shots switched to aftermarket(A3bloodline) all my issues are gone

Yall need to check out Unbound Archery bloodline strings. Cant beat em. 1 guy making them.

Deer drops he hears the bow. Deer drops and rolls he hears the arrow coming. Fast arrows make more noise and vented broadheads add to that, so there may not be any advantage to super fast arrows.

Its good to see you all back together. Keep up the great work.

Only watching this because saw Dan was in it Tim lost me complaining about Dan.

Josh, be careful getting LASIK or PRK. Sounds like you are having issues in low light. After I got PRK, my low light vision went to shit. Best.

The three amigos makes me happy 🙌🏾

Tim and Dan should be doing some collaborations on both their CZcams channels

Vapor trail strings are great I had one break like Josh said everyone has a bad one and they shipped me a brand new one and was there the next afternoon! I have a bowtech rpm 360 that punches strings and the set of vapor trails that’s on it has probably 5k to 6k shots through them! I wanna try gas but vapor trail has been so great and reliable and customer service unmatched it’s hard to steer away from them! If u haven’t gave them a try I promise they are great!

80 lbs 80% lift. I just had to time my cams again

They are supposed to open a bunch more TAC events next year. The founder was on a podcast recently and said they are going to have a lot more events next year.

Three great channels right there. I will say my Lift 33 strings stretched. I was really hoping they were better than the Zebra strings. I can't give the Match strings a high review. I will be purchasing GAS strings from now on. I love my Lift bow, but the strings are the weak link.

Love how elkshape talked shit about Tim on a prior video yet here we are. So pro Tim C for being the bigger person

This was nice to see . Life's too short.

Elevation is not the thing that changes, its actually barometric pressure. You can be at a high elevation that is currently in a low pressure system and a low elevation location in a high pressure system and they could damn near be the same. Long range rifle shooters use baro because thats the relevant metric. Everyone is carrying a smart phone that will tell you the pressure where you are or the nearest weather station. Learn to document that and at what point does it start to effect your flight.

Enjoyed the whole conversation great job guys.

I'm still listening. I'll go buy one here in the next couple weeks

Its nice that Tim is really getting settled into his Ron Jeremy stage of life 😂

I have that same problem. Kind of Tim. I've been trying to work on that too but I don't think I just realized it until now. I've been aiming different ways in like trying to focus on my pin more, but I think you just help me put something into perspective. Thank you!

In PA for some reason at most of the boost nobody will sell you any merchandise. They'll ship it to you. You can't buy anything there. Dang near. I mean Lancaster will and a couple of the other shops but most of the product boosts they don't want to sell you anything. It's all for display and they'll ship it to you. I hope you would be selling stuff. Get your Joe's over trailer that you sell. The main things that you know go

Most of them Fords all the trainees get rebuilt between 75 and 125

Now if my guess is and assumptions might be right and the bow disciples crew is there as well. Dude I'm going to be mind blown if I get to meet all of my number ones that's hard to put like another number on it because I look for a video from every one of yous every time I go on CZcams. So I don't know. Maybe whenever I get to meet some people in person I'll be like I don't know. I kind of like him a little better. Pat, I'm curious if the bow disciple crew will be there?

Dude you guys just made me grab my phone like oh shit whenever you said PA Dan you said PA and I'm like oh my God and then mfjj said it. I'm like hoe. My dream is coming true. I can't wait. I hope you guys are going to be there. Are you going to be there on the first day? I usually shoot Thursday but I'm planning on trying to shoot like Thursday and Friday or maybe Friday and Saturday. I definitely want to see you guys. I hope you be there all weekend. If you make that trip maybe you'll get more information out way closer next year I'm sure. But that is awesome my men and Tim, if you're about to say yes to, I'm even more stoked but I hit comment button before you could get to that

Definitely hope Dan shows up again soon!

Outstanding gentlemen! It is great to see all three of you back in the open friendly forum again. I really enjoyed this fire side chat.

I love how Tim always pushes people to self reflect.

The match strings are garbage. They go out of time all the time. Glad to hear someone actually say it!

What strings come stock on the Darton consequence