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Mounting a stiff MotoZ RallZ motorcycle tire using the Baja No-Pinch tool
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- Time to replace my worn Dunlop Mission Trailmax tires. I've got about 8000 miles on them and need better grip for some upcoming adventures. I decided on the MotoZ RallZ for the rear and the MotoZ Tractionator Dual-Venture on the front of my BMW F800GS. Mounting a stiff tire can be hard, especially by yourself. I found the Baja No-Pinch Tool and it sure makes the job a lot easier. Link below. (I'm not sponsored by them, nor did I get paid for this.)
www.bajanopinc...
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Kneel on the other side of the tire to keep the other side of the bead low and it'll give you the slack you need to go on much easier.
Thanks. I'll have to play around with that next time. I just helped a buddy put on a new Heidenau Ranger last night. He tried multiple times on his own, then came over to use my Baja No-Pinch tool and we got it on. The key, as you mention, is to keep the tire in the well....but that's not easy with a stiff tire.
@Andy Seitz I've never used the Baja No Pinch, only irons. Going to buy one for sure. But my trick is to push the sidewall down on the near side, then kneel on it. It makes a huge difference in how much you have to "stretch" that last bead into place. Using MOTOZ GPS tires, with a stiff sidewall too.
@@KenWoods Thanks for the tip. I'll try that next time, although I'm not a big guy and I tried that before and I don't make much of a dent in those stiff tires. I just used the tool again the other day and the key is to keep that tire in the groove and away from the bead as best you can....however you can. If using the knee works, great. On lighter tires I've seen folks use zip ties. I've tried some wooden blocks in the past...or some rubber spacers, like those rim protectors. It sort of works. Hope you don't need to worry about it much. ;)
Use a large vice/clamp to squeeze the opposite side and help the bead in the drop center of the rim
Weekend warrior who kept ripping $20 tubes on my son's CRF50. Super expensive tool but I broke down and bought it WITH the 10" mini bike adaptor for my sons bike....does make it easier and I haven't busted any expensive tubes since...will last forever so guess it was worth it.
This tool is amazing. Seeing it for the first time. Thank you
i know the video is old, but i hope this helps. a good tip is pushing the opposite side of the bead closer to the valley of the rim giving u just a hair more give
This is exactly my next tire choice, front and rear for my 990 Adventure.
It sure is a loud tire on the highway though. And I don't feel too safe going much faster than 75-80mph. I much preferred the previous Dunlop Mission Trailmax. Maybe also look at the new Dunlop Raid that was just announced.
That tool looks much easier than using spoons. And using jack stands for balancing is a great idea, never seen that before.
Last little bits are a mother to get on!
Use a couple of small blocks of wood to help keep the tire in the drop center. Make sure both sides are in the drop center as well.
I tried that before I bought this device....didn't work very well.
Use whatever it takes, but if that bead is not in the deepest part of the rim well you are making life hard for yourself.
Leaving something between the rim and bead like small block of wood to hold the bead in the drop center can help.
Looks pretty slick. I had never heard of if before now.
Heat tire up in the sun prior to installing
Yup...I had the tire in the car in the sun prior to mounting.
You need to put the lever on the opposit side of the graping thing!! (start it a bit past vertical and push down, no pulling !! makes it WAY easyer, this tool is Brilliant !
Recently gave up on trying to spoon on a rear TMM on my CB500X. Took it to local shop, even with the machine it took the guy about 30 minutes - made me feel a bit better about giving up!
Would have liked to try the install with this tool, but I got a feeling I still would have had to take it to the shop. Those TMMs are brutally tight, although I did successfully mount the front tire using just spoons and the usual tricks
Yeah, when I initially got the Dunlop TMM I tried 3x unsuccessfully to put the rear on myself (once with a buddy, and two more evenings myself. Gave up after a bit each time.). I finally took it in to the shop and they had it mounted in a a few minutes - no problem. I went on a weekend trip down to Mike's Sky Ranch in Baja and was worried that if I ever got a flat on the rear I'd be screwed, so I saw that Baja No-Pinch Tool and ordered it before I went on the trip and it arrived the day before I left. Sure enough, I got a flat...on the rear...at night on the Mexico side near Tijuana. Perfect! I surprised my friend and pulled out the new tool - it worked well and we were able to fix it. I don't think the Dunlops are much different in stiffness than the MotoZ - both seems really beefy tires!
Use your knee to keep the tire in the drop center
Essential.
I have the tool and have found that sometimes it is just easier to do the last bit with irons.
Excuse me, kind sir. How is the red thing called, to hold the tyre in place that you used in the beginning? Thx in advance.
Hi Thomas. That's a Bead Buddy...(or Tire Bead Tool). Here is a link: www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Installation-Assistance-KAWASAKI-HUSQVARNA/dp/B07RHGDZG2/ref=sr_1_17?keywords=motorcycle+tire+bead+tool&qid=1678724941&sprefix=motorcycle+tire+bead%2Caps%2C210&sr=8-17
Epic fail in my view. You appear to be inflicting enough damage to the tyre to stop it sealing on a tubeless rim. YOU need to ensure that the side of the tyre opposite the worksite is actually deep in the well of the rim otherwise you will not have enough slack to work with. It does not need to be that hard. I fit MOTOZ/MITAS tyres at home with shorty levers, it's not strength, its technique. If this is meant to be an advert for the tool then you have done it a disservice, sorry. Further, it would be a good idea to not screw the nut on the valve stem all the way to the rim, just screw it up to the dust cap. That way if you get any tyre spin on the rim it will not tear the valve stem from the tube. I hope you find this advice useful.
Tire irons were invented a long time ago and they still rein supreme it seem .
Haha. Yes, they are still needed for sure. This doesn't replace them. It only augments them and makes that last part easier....and possible for some of us. Twice now I've used it where we pretty much gave up on the install and this tool made it possible. And we're not beginners. Yeah, sure we could have cranked on it with big lever irons, but you might cause damage to the rim...scratch it at minimum. I know what you're thinking...."He just didn't do it right. You got to make sure the tire is in the center part and stays there." Yep....I know. It's an art.
Thanks for the comment though...it's spot on!
@@SDTriathlete Every tire is a struggle it seem. Nowadays I drive an off-road bike so scratches aren't a concern. And the tires are usually softer as well. Makes it a lot easier. Get in the there and train. I know some fellas that that race each other changing tires. People of all kinds. Changing tires for me is is more of : Finally on and now I don't want to think about this for a lonoong time.
@@Roger_Gustafsson It's a lot easier on a smaller dirt bike or smaller dual-sport than on these big adventure bikes with the fatter, stiffer tires!
Awesome tool. Too expensive.
Watching this on my way home from a Baja trip, wishing I had this tool. I got 5 flats in 3 days haha. Would you say it makes it any easier putting a tube on? Or just prevents pinches, which is a solid reason in itself. I'm definitely buying this either way, just curious
It probably also helps avoid some pinch flats caused by not being careful mounting, but the main reason for me was to make getting that last bead over the rim with these stiff tires we have on the rear. I've had a friend borrow it as well to mount a tire on his bike that he was having trouble with. Originally I bought it when I couldn't mount my Dunlop Mission Trailmax tires...I tried three different evenings, twice with a buddy to help. I finally had to bring the wheel in to the shop to have them mount that tire. I then bought the tool and luckily brought it with me on a trip down to Mike's Sky Ranch in Baja...because on the way home I got a rear flat at night just outside Tijuana....that tool saved my ass.
Only thing I don’t like about my baja is it should have something to protect the rim from it scratching it
Yeah...I agree. You have to be a bit careful when placing that on the tire edge. But hey...it's an adventure bike....it's going to get a bit beat up, right?
Any solution for lever marks on the rims?? Any paste Or paint job that can be done at home??
I've given up on trying to keep the rim looking pretty. It's a workhorse adventure bike...it's going to get a bit beat up over time. But, I do use the rubber rim savers a bit when using the levers and this Baja No-Pinch tool helps on that final hard part.
You can buy rim shields to protect your rims from damage whilst fitting tyres, various models available, and mostly American made.
Hi
I wonder if you can give me a feed back between the trailmax mission and the motoz combinaison you running now. I've also got a f 800 gs and I hesitate partly between those too
How the motoz grip on twisties compare to the trailmax?
How the trailmax manage on offroad?
Is there any complain about the motoz on the tarmac? Vibration, noise or shaking handlebar?
I'll apreciate your answer
I'll be able to report back on that in several weeks after my Baja trip.
@@SDTriathlete enjoy your Baja trip mate !
I'll be thanksfull to have your feed back in few weeks.
I rode it yesterday for the first time. Definitely feels way different. The Dunlop Trailmax Missions are smooth and didn't feel all that different than the Michelin Anakee IIIs on the road. These knobby MotoZ tires are what you expect: Louder and a bit squirrely on the road. I can feel the knobs when going slower than 20mph and you notice a higher sound level on the road. First time in a turn on the asphalt it felt really weird..almost like the tire was low on air...or fighting me. After some miles on the twistys I am getting used to the tires and trust them a lot more now. They worked great off-road and in the mud/slushy snow on Mount Palomar yesterday. I expect them to be decent in the sand down in Baja. The Dunlops aren't that great in mud or sand, but performed really well on hard-pack and rocky terrain in SoCal or Baja.
@@SDTriathlete Thanks for the report :). hopefully they will work great at baja for you. I'm planing to go for a motoz rallz rear and a pirelli mt 21 front.
enjoy your riding time
Struggling too much bro opiset side needs to be adjusted many times .all the way around
Next time just cut the old tire off. Theyre not even useful as a kids rope swing. Saves tons of time and no hassle. 😉
The problem with that tool is it only can help with installation.
True....but usually removal is not a problem......I say usually. I did have a problem getting the damn old rear tire off...just took a while and lots of swearing.
What's the Honda behind you?
That's my 1982 Honda XL500R I restored recently. It belonged to my friend's dad who started working on it 18 years ago and then passed away and it sat semi-disassembled since then. It took me a year to restore it. I have no paperwork so I'm still working on getting it registered.
@@SDTriathlete that's awesome... I had a 1982 XL250R back when it was new. I rode that thing everywhere.
On the last part the opposite side has to be in the trough to give you the slack you need.