What Tevinter Nights REVEALS About Solas in Dragon Age: Dreadwolf!
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- Following on from Tevinter Night's release, I've taken up the bold task of dissecting EVERYTHING noteworthy that relates to Solas throughout all of the fifteen stories in this spectacular novel, and believe me when I say, we have so much to talk about!
Red Lyrium Idol paraphrased by / felassan
00:00 Introduction
01:22 Solas’s Agents & Allies
06:00 Solas’s Rivals & Adversaries
14:00 Solas’s Character
18:10 The Dread Wolf
19:30 The Red Lyrium Idol
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I do have timestamps for the following Solas-related topics if you’d like to skip to one at any point:
Solas’s Agents & Allies - 01:22
Solas’s Rivals & Adversaries - 06:00
Solas’s Character - 14:00
The Dread Wolf - 18:10
The Red Lyrium Idol - 19:30
That's nice of you to put timestamps
It makes everything easier for ya!
Umm.. doesn't Solas kill all of those spies? He only turns the executor into stone. You said he only killed the executor.
@@toraryoung Oh shit, did Solas kill the Mortalitasi and the Carta??
@@JackdawYT you're too kind!!
When you low key want to help Solas, hope there are multiple endings or something.
Eric Parker I doubt it since this is probably not the last game. If there is an option to help, I imagine it just won’t be represented in future games but BioWare would get a lot of flak for that.
May be best to consider "convincing Solas to cease his plan" ala "stop him" vs "kill him" as the closest we'll get to helping him.
I wanna high key join him...to tell him that he's wrong of course...
Kill kill kill
I actually think that he will win regardless so Bioware can take advantage of a world in chaos for DA 5
I loved the novel so much. The stories were so interesting. Though, I will admit I read "The Dread Wolf Take You." first. Simply cause I love living in Solavellan hell. ^_^
Hahaha! So did me and Saria!!!! Couldn't resist!
You know... Solas not actually having the idol would also explain why he claimed in his story that it was two figures embracing when its actually three. Maybe he doesn't know quite what it looks like?
Amazing point!
Who or what is the third figure?
@@luffyjam down to the right, it looks like a face and a cut off arm
edit: Oh you said who... Hm I have no idea xD
Solas is one of the most intriguing and tragic characters I've ever seen in a game, it's so awesome to learn more about post-trespasser stuff plus the big picture of DA fleshed out in book form. I seriously love the lore surrounding his story!!! (and all the tin foil theories lol)
Is the dread wolf form in the fade another part of himself? How does he live there permanently? It's interesting he is using red lyrium even after what happened at Redcliffe. And yeah, he must be desperate if he's dressing up as an Orlesian bard....major lol. omg and the fresco!! The irony...my tin foil theory is that I still think he is being somewhat controlled by Mythal though.
"Solas is also not true"
aaaaaaaaaand were back in sollavellan hell
lol! As always haha
For the love of elfroot just give my lavellan her romantic ending and burn the rest
Forreal! Stuck in Solavellan hell for eternity!
YASS !! 👏👏👏
I really do wish to help Solas create his new world. "Let the world be one with the fade again."
I wonder what the implications will be if the Inquisitor drank from the Well. Especially if they had a romance...
This is what gets me, since he absorbed Mythal, does that mean he has dominion over the Inquisitor?
@@akf018 Yes it does. If the Inquisitor drinks from the well he is forced to unwillingly take a slave. Which is the one thing he hates most. People being forced into slavery. If you are nice to him and he ends up considering the Inquisitor a friend or lover than he is even more heartbroken at the fact that it was them who drank from the well. Versus Morrigan who he doesn't know as well. And who seems to have her own personal gains from drinking from the well herself. I think it obviously still bothers him that anyone had to drink from the well but he recognizes the necessity.
_(Sigh)_ We're gonna have to fight the Inquisitor or Morrigan aren't we
@@uhobme2028 Oh no! I did not think about that!😬
So what's Solas true name...It's Chester isn't it? Isn't it?!
Bruce!
i would like Olaf.... just like a cute little Snowman.... he would lose a tone of respect and
seriousness.
Well... but of course it must be Elven...... Olathan?
....or Francis (Deadpool... anyone?)
Hahha!
He looks like a Gerald.
Brian? Bogis? Bernard?
I was thinking about the idol: could it be crazy to imagine that the third figure would be the inquisitor? If we look at closely, we see that the left forearm is missing...
I'm behind this theory!!!!
I'm so ready for the next game
Me too!! I need it! :(
I was watching this video after a recent playthrough, and it dawned on me that I think the red Jenny's will actually be a faction that operates against Solas, especially after having some roof and cookie time with Sera, and her directly stating how she hates pride, on top of her and solas's already antagonistic relationship, I won't be surprised to see some pies flying in the face of the dread wolf. Especially since the only thing more insufferable than a noble is a god
He really got annoyed with Sera for sure
As someone who romanced Solas i cant wait too see what he will say about lavellan in dragon age 4
Been working on a “dread wolf take you” chapter fan art piece for your channel since last week. Thanks again for the break down vid. Excited to keep workin on it today
Oh my goodness! Thank you so much! I'm incredibly flattered, thank you!
How'd it go?
Karolina pretty great. mobile.twitter.com/DreamingDjinn/status/1248489651121184768 I’ve got a full resolution version if you want it
czcams.com/video/4BBSYiFskac/video.html
I was hoping for some sort of da4 news / mass effect remaster tease at E3 😔 so sad its cancelled. GLad we have you to give us dragon age content while we endure such times 😷🖤
We do have some news regarding that, so don't worry! A news update from me is coming very soon! There's still a chance we could see something as E3 is going digital!
@@JackdawYT oooh yay! Will look forward to it! 🥰
It's really unlikely we'll get nothing to replace E3. There might be some delayed projects that might not get shown as a result, but I'd bet that most, if not all, companies will just show whatever they were going to show but online in some fashion.
Eh, E3 hasn't been that great the past few years anyway. More and more gaming companies were skipping it and doing their own thing instead anyway.
2 lovers or a god mourning her sacrifice? Why not both? Perhaps they are infact the same or perhaps depending on choices (such as the Inquisitor and Solas being in a relationship or not) Solas himself could interpret the idol differently. I hope that made s9me semblance of sense lol.
Very true!!!
could it be crazy to imagine that the third figure would be the inquisitor? If we look at closely, we see that the left forearm is missing...
As always, you provide the best content Jackdaw! My biggest question is whether Solas will use the red lyrium idol and become corrupted. I feel we were given hints to his decisions through the constant emphasis on his pride through this book. He keeps mentioning how he is nothing but a prideful mage. Despite what we know about red lyrium and how it corrupts those who use it, because Solas is prideful and powerful he will probably thing he can beat the corruption. Especially if it can be used to reach his goal. I don’t know if he’d stoop that low but he wants the idol for a reason. If anyone could combat it’s influence it would be Solas, but I fear we will have to save him from a corrupted version of himself. There was also the emphasis on the idol in the trailer and the picture they gave us (where Solas is holding a hand up to the dread wolf form) which all hinted red lyrium would shape the game. Just a theory!
Loving your theories! Thank you so much for watching!!
“I walk the din’an shiral, there is only death on this journey. I would not have you see what I become.” I believe those were his exact words and it’s those words that haunts me still... I hope your wrong but something tells me that your probably very close to the truth.
The idol is missing or with meredith
18:44
Solas is best waifu confirmed
LOL haha, imagine that romance scene....
Jackdaw
Oh I can see it:
Lavellan: solas-kun, take me like the dread wolf you are
Solas: I would but I must save my people and dispel the veil mah venan senpai-san
*ponyo music and titanic theme plays in the distance*
hahahahah!! Oh my !
Jackdaw
Damnit now I want a really shitty and ironic anime intro for all three dragon age games, just for the meme
I’m the story “The Callback” there’s a regret demon. It states that the regret that was drawn to sky hold had a very long memory. Also the regret says that it is from a God. And when it is defeated and turns into a spirit it says “there might have been a better choice”
I believe that the spirit was drawn in by Solas’s regret about leaving inquisition or/and sealing away the elven people.
Jackdaw Since this is about Solas. What do you think about the orbs he had us activate in DAI? He said it was to strengthen the veil. What do you think they really did?
Oooooo...I like this thought, the inquisitor duped on so many levels. It's like the mind chess game he played with iron bull. He keeps you distracted the whole time, taking out his men, so you don't notice the pawn coming up behind to steal the game.
Thank you, as always, for the hard work, and keeping us in the know with the lore and news on Dragonage! Your content is great, and your research is amazing!
Thank you so much for the kind words!! I really appreciate it, thanks for tuning in!!
Solas is such a well written character I can't wait to see what new things we'll find out about him n the new game
Lol 2023 here. BioWare fired a tone of ppl and are in trouble. This game will likely never be made
Am I the only one that genuinely loves SO MUCH Solas being so “bad” and deadly? Like it makes him such an interesting antagonist, and imagine the angst this adds to Solavellan or any other intimate relationship with the Inquisitor... I’m here for Dread Wolf Solas and tragedy, spill the brilliant writing, mate ☕️
Captured agents of Fen Harel committing suicide makes me worry that it might not be possible to redeem Solas. I can't explain why I feel this way, perhaps because it makes me think of cyanide capsules used during World War II.
Well when you really think about it, Solas is basically hot Hitler: He believes his race are god-like beings who have become corrupted and are going extinct because of mixing with "lesser" races, he plans to use mass-genocide to restore his race to their "rightful" place as rulers of the world, he dabbles in dark magic to give him an edge over the opposition, he has a cult-like army of secret agents who assassinate key people who oppose him and commit suicide rather than betray him...
@@mesmer3780 no... its not that he believes his race to be God's.
He despised and rebelled against the so called "Gods"
What he's doing is trying to restore the world to what it originally was. Think of a Fantasy world with floating islands, gigantic world trees that cover the heavens, and spirits that roam around the world... if you decided to take that world and separate it into 2, you'd obviously would want to bring back the world to its former glory.
I for one agree with bringing the world back to its original state. Not because of entitlment of race, but because the world deserves to be whole... to be one with the fade once again. A TRUE Fantasy world is waiting to be whole again, wouldn't you like to see what stories might unfold with the tearing of the veil.
Yeah probably but I worry about justice now what will happen to me
@@mesmer3780 thats not what happened. don't bring your own agenda on here. Solas became sad at the plight of the elves. They are basically slaves third class citizens everywhere. He is a revolutionary that want the glory days back and to stop his kind being treated like this. Like the black commandos of USA.
Just bought tevinter nights because of you jackdaw. Going to dive into it now. Cheers.
Aw awesome!! I hope you love it!!!
@@JackdawYT only a few pages in but i think its going to be full of bas-taards.
hahaha!!
i just need one good solas romance moment for my elf inquisitor in da4 :( dat shit hurted
Thank you so much, videos like this is what gives me hope for the future and motivation to wait for DA4
Aw thank you so much for your kind words!!
I wonder if we'll get dream cutscenes of the dread wolf in the fade like the archdemon dreams in Origins.
Been waiting for this!
Thank you so much for watching!! :D
so I just found this channel (great going by the way), so I may be a little late on the uptake, but I had a thought.
On "Callback" the description of the wolf as being scaly and dragon-like, one could assume is because of Mythal's soul, as the Evanuris were the only ones allowed to have a dragon form. However, seeing as Ghilan'nain tricked a slave of Dirthamen to "change in the shape of the Gods" (I'm paraphrasing but was something along those lines) you could say a dragon is not a form that is *that* hard to obtain; just not allowed to someone who is not a Evanuris.
On "The Dread Wolf Take You" Solas--under his ruse--mentions seeing "the Warden-Commander talking to a hooded figure" and how he recognizes the voice of the figure as Divine Victoria. If the books, like the other DA media, follows the default world state then that would mean that the Warden-Commander is the Hero of Ferelden, and the Dark Ritual was performed by Alistair.
So, what if the figure is not a disfigured wolf-lizard because of Mythal's soul, but because of _Urthemiel's_ soul?
I hope that Solas is successful. OR if this is the last Dragon Age game... maybe make it an optional ending. Considering there will be no game that after to run of past events.
Very fair point! The games can't go on forever!
That Egg is gonna crack and smash he ain't winning nothing you damned Dread Wolf Cultist!
I have a feeling that him tearing down the veil isn’t going to work the way he thinks it will. It may shake the foundations of the world, but I have a feeling we won’t all die. Putting up the veil didn’t work like he thought it would, so it stands to reason the tearing it down won’t either.
Kristopher Wooldridge No thanks. I don’t think many people would be fans of the genocidal elf succeeding in killing all of their favorite characters among countless innocent people.
Solas will be stopped, one way or another.
I definitely think a plot is going to be race to try to find it. To my understanding it keeps being taken by 3rd party people not really associated to their governments, they just happen to live there.
I agree! That seems very likely, an epic race against time!
Awesome, awesome video!
Thank you so so much!!! I really appreciate it!!
“Dread wolf take you “ fan art is still happening ;) it’s the biggest digital art piece I’ve done so it’s just taking me quite a while.
That said. Just wanted to share a theory about Solas. I think.... I think I may have enough pieces to put the beggings of a picture of what Solas is. I think..... Solas is the name of an elf and a spirit wisdom that is joined. I think that’s one of the reasons for the characters of Anders and Justice in DA 2. We meet Anders in DA 1 dlc .. and Justice... as separate characters. That way when we meet them as a voluntary joined possession....we get to see the transition of both characters as they slowly over time become 1 single character. We see that this is not like an abomination possession where a demon stays a demon and traps the mind of the mage or whoever in a separate part of their mind, so that it’s not a shared existence. We see the Avar tribes do voluntary possession with the understanding between both spirit and apostate that they will remain separate and the spirit will leave before they become to intertwined. Anders and Justice are past that point and have become the beginnings of a new entity that is still able to view each personality as separate... but Anders is noticing that it’s more and more less so. They are merging to become a new singular mind and being. We also see that justice has the ability to take on a slightly altered form when in the fade. So.... I think this.... this is what happened with Solas. Solas was once 2 beings...an elf with another name....and a spirit of wisdom. Mythal gave the opportunity for “Wisdom” to posses a willing elf. And so they became over the hundreds and thousands of years... he became... Solas. A union of an elf and a spirit of wisdom and not just any spirit of wisdom.... one of the powerful spirits. This is why Solas is accepted by both god pantheons. The forgotten ones ARE powerful spirits/demons. And the evenuris gods are elves. And so he is a member of both. When Mythal was killed, his spirit of wisdom side became an angry pride demon. The pride demon can take the form of a wolf in the fade.
I think this is supported by his surprise by Cole becoming essentially a human... if you pick the Varric route and make Cole more human. Solas states he never thought it possible. Why would he think this if he himself had become an elf? Solas is a possession union. There was an elf body for the wisdom to inhabit. (Ps... this may be what the red lyrium statue is depicting... an elf and a spirit being merged together by mythal. ;)
The writer of Solas also said in an interview that when Solas talked to the nightmare spider , the spider says “your pride is responsible for all of this”. The main thing I took away from that is.... the nightmare said “your pride” as in “your pride demon”. As if it’s a separate thing or a specific part of Solas he’s attacking... not Solas himself. So I think he’s telling elf side Solas that his spirit/demon he is intertwined with is the part at fault. Also Solas is able to shut Cole out of his mind on command. So he is able to switch his thoughts from his elf side to his spirit/demon side on the fly. Cole can read people thoughts but not spirit thoughts. Not like he can with people. Peoples emotions come with attachments to images and experiences... so he doesn’t read their thought... he reads the emotion that he can understand (pain, hurt, frustration, anger) . Spirits seem to only have emotion without attachment to experience. They are emotion in the moment. So Solas become wisdom/pride and Cole loses images to experience. This is why Solas also I think disapproves rash action. He approves wisdom and thinking through things. And disapproves being prideful and making choices based on passion and emotion without thought. He himself has made terrible mistakes as Pride... and doesn’t like to see that reflection in others.
Anyways..lol... tinfoil off. Back to art :) thanks for the great vids.
@@serielmcleod1900 I think you may be very right (in addition I remember that Solas and the wolf in tarot cards and frescos are two separate beings). Solas being in a symbiosis with a spirit\demon can explain why he depicts the idol as 2 figures instead of 3.
I still think that the crowned figure is Mythal and it is also correlated with the descriptions of the idol: "a god mourning her sacrifice", "a crowend figure who comforted the other", we all know that the dread wolf was pretty close whith Mythal and who knows maybe even a romance was involved between them. We know so little about their relationship, so maybe even "a couple" and "2 lovers hugging" is a correct view on the idol. Also it says that the figures are too thin to be anyone else but elves.
Now I'm starting to think that there is a possibility that Solas and Mythal were lovers, and the death of a loved one could make his other side go twisted as a very strong form of emotion which had a great impact on doing so. So that's why maybe it was so important for him to do something and punish those who were responsible. And the female Lavellan as a love interest for Solas may also remind him that he somehow betrayes Mythal and he acts so nervous and going back and forth in a relation with her through all of the dai (not only because of his plan to destroy Thedas). I know that it can be also a total bullshit, but I've never even thought of Solas and Mythal as a couple until this moment. Just a thought.
Can't wait to see if any of our theories are true and how close some of the intelligent people here got with their speculations.
Aaand thanks a lot for the video Jackdaw! You keep my interest on point as always. Hi there from Russia and please stay safe all of you who's reading this!
p.s.
What if the idol aka sword is a weapon made by Solas to "lock" the fade (working like some sort of a key, it can also "open" the fade). it may explain why the idol shows us these figures (presumably Solas and Mythal), why it is so ancient looking, why it has so much power and why it's appeared in Thedas.
Fat Charlie , it all possible. The thing with Mythal is so strange, especially with their meeting at the end of inquisition. They seem more like friends than lovers in that moment. And Solas isn’t phased that Mythal is alive and walking around as a human witch of the wilds. Which makes me think that...... tinfoil on... lol... Mythal was also somehow union possession, being an elf and a spirit. Flemyth refers to her and Mythal being intertwined, much like Anders and Justice. That Mythal is a part of her like her heart is a part of her. Mythal is also all about revenge.... possibly making her a spirit of Justice turned into a demon of vengeance. So what if the elf Mythal was killed, but the spirit she was entwined with was able to survive the death, being a spirit, and so maintaned her memories and personality when she was entwined with her elven counterpart. So Flemyth both is and isn’t Mythal. And perhaps that’s why Solas still considers Flemyth a friend but not a lover, because the elf Mythal is dead. The other thing is this... Mythal the spirit of vengeance ,was drawn to Flemyth , I think, more so than just a random nobody who was wronged and needing justice/vengeance, because Flemyth suffered the same tragedy as Mythal. So being in love with someone who was not said to be her husband, but was tricked and murdered by her jealous supposed husband. Or however that story went. “She was betrayed as I was betrayed !”
So perhaps Mythal’s god husband of myth (can’t recall his name) found out about her and Solas, and organized her murder.
The tinfoil. It crinkles. Lol.
Thanks for needing out with me :)
With best wishes from Canada
@@serielmcleod1900 oh I like your point of view. All of it can prove that Cole, the original Cole, experienced pretty much the same and indeed Solas lied that he didn't know it was possible for Cole to "become human". And I'm almost sure he lied that he had never seen anyone like him before. Then, when it comes to creatures like Anders it's always the swings.
I mean Anders in one moment is his human self and the other is justice and I guess if you let the spirit possess you entirely, it will be only justice and the empty vessel. Also the glowing eyes could be an indicator, in Solas's case, which tells us who controls the body at the exact moment, just as it was with Anders.
Osen, Flemeth's "boyfriend" was killed and she was captured. Also Andraste's fate is very similar to Mythal's, she also was betrayed (by her husband Maferath). I assume she was Mythal's vessel as well. If you look at Andraste's statue in Val Royeaux Concept Art, you can see that she has almost the same pose as the center figure of the idol has ( preview.redd.it/yerzibpj98c21.jpg?width=1482&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d1a2711ac8ee9e1b399b266a227a7f2a72b2fbb ). And what about the crown both Flemeth and Andraste plus the idol's figure share? (I'd like to add that Flemeth and Andraste are connected in their sexual appearance. I mean Flemeth is an old lady but she has rather impressive body. Andraste has the same energy, i mean people had to remove her statues because of them being too sexualized). To support a theme about spirits I want to add that there is a picture of little Andraste and a strange figure near her, with fade like elements on and all around its body and (!) a crown ( vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonage/images/2/27/Maker-new.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/185?cb=20140508144908&path-prefix=ru ). Now my tinfoil hat is on, right?
My point is...
You are not wrong to say that it is now not the original Mythal and Solas knows it. Remember in da2 she said something about her presence not being real (maybe all of them are not, as she doesn't really have an original body) and she just travels in her strange forms until she gets her revenge.
Thank you too! It's always nice to brainstorm like that and not on my own, for a change. Hope you are doing good in Canada =^з^=
All I'm left thinking from this is "why should I even want to defeat the dread wolf?" his cause seems pretty cool mostly.
I particularly think Solas has the idol and by the time of DA4 he'd have broken the veil completely and we'll be dealing with the aftermath. Perhaps the idol is the key to fixing things as much as it was the key to messing them up.
(Though, to be fair, were I a character in DA I'd likely be by Solas' side)
I wonder where Morrigan is, does Mythal convince her to open herself up to possession? would that save her? as Morrigan is one of the leading authorities of elven lore left these days and she wandered off from the Inquisition.. I love her character she's been there since the beginning with Leliana and Cullen.
Morrigan is likely with the Warden and Keiran (if she romanced the Warden), and I'm kind of surprised no one bothered to ask Merrill's help given that she studied elven lore since she was a child and even built her own Eluvian (which we can see in the Crossroads in Inquisition if it wasn't destroyed).
I think you might be on to something. Solas probably still hasn't got the Idol in his grasp. It can be possibly one of the last, if not the last piece of his plan.
Aye exactly, if he had the idol already then why would he be at that meeting? Wouldn't the Veil already be destroyed?
Great video! Can't wait for DA4!
Thank you! I can't wait either!!
And here I was wondering what to do next! Excellent timing! =]
Haha, thank you for watching!!
@@JackdawYT Do you have any particular idea as to why Solas needs the Idol? I was thinking that perhaps he would use it to find other Foci, but it feels more directly connected to his ritual. Just a power source?
@@cesara.1772 Death thins the Veil. Red Lyrium is Death that's been made clear by Cole and Bartrand and Meredith even the Titans. It's power can simply tear down the Veil completely.
Perhaps as a rebound, since his orb broke. Using loads of red/regular lyrium and that idol could destroy the veil! He needs it to finish his ritual that's already started.
Awesome video! Thank you
Thank you so much for watching!
Jackdaw always a joy to watch your videos. It really shows your love for dragon age.
Thank you for your kind words, it really means a lot to me!
I want to listen to this so badly, but need to finish the book first! I couldn't help myself and started with the last story as I knew this just HAD to be about Solas and then I saw your previous video and then I knew for certain. And daaammmnnn ....I can't wait for the next game!
Haha aww take your time reading, my video will always be here!
With how much the Inquisition and its allies were involved in this, I'm more hopeful than ever that the Inquisitor will be a returning protagonist. Especially since part of the book empathized a character with a prosthetic leg that could still travel and fight without being impeded.
AGREED! I would adore playing as my Inqy again!!
@@JackdawYT Me too. Besides them being my favorite bioware protagonist, their connection to Solas no matter what it was makes a much better story than if we played as some new person again since it creates a unique relationship between the protagonist and antagonist. And with the main thing that people used to argue against the idea (their missing hand) now having an easy out with a prosthetic, I don't really see any good reason why Bioware wouldn't have them return as the main playable character.
Amen!
I don't think Inquisitor will return as a playable character, but more as an advisor.
@@SeventhheavenDK that's certainly the most likely avenue!
I'm glad I made Cole a human....
hahahha me too!!
0:30 or iced tea, if for some reason you prefer it that way
Me: * stops midway through the process of drinking my iced tea *
Is that Warden-Commander supposed to be the HOF/Commander from Awakening?
I think so!! :D Which means Solas certainly knows about their existence, which is kinda scary!
Yes. Either or. The HOF becomes the WC if they live. If they died, an Orlesian WC is the MC of Awakening.
🎉🎊commenting to boost the algorithm, after you got your channel back.
Oops! Haven’t read the book yet. Ordering it now. I’ll be back, Jackdaw, when I’m finished reading it.
Lore goodies galore!
I want to play as a Mortalitasi. Please, Bioware, make this class better next game. There is so much potential
i dont know about others but i hope that in da 4 we get the choice to side with solas and the elves
I wonder what role, if any, the Grey Wardens will play in DA4. I don't think they're quite done yet.
I agree! They still have more to offer!
My guess is nothing good or noble or righteous. They'll end up being enemy villains serving one of the Evanuris.
@@flamesofchaos13 It's definitely possible! The Grey Wardens really changed after Origins.
@@Serenitywilde No they haven't at all. Their mentality and actions have never changed. In Origins you'd make excuses for the bad because they had to stop the Blight and we play as one. But take away the Blight aspect, Take away the personal bias, Look and Listen to their philosophy...You'll see that it's extremist and the deeds done during the events of Inquisition is the True Face of the Order. Push comes to shove they're not heroes in fact their philosophy aligns more with tyrants and villains in the series.
I can easily see that the Leadership is Corrupt. That the Wardens will kill innocents to get to whatever goal they want. That their history is bloody and one day their secrets will spill showing Thedas there are no heroes coming to save you. I believe the Wardens have never sought to end the Blights only to collect the Old God Souls for themselves or whatever master they serve...Because how could they have known about all the magical rituals in order to stop a Blight yet not know the one to protect the Warden slaying the Archdemon? What about how did they even learn any of the things they do in the first place? Who drunk the Archdemons and Darkspawn blood and thought that would kill it?!
It's far more logical they were told by someone or something with it's own intent.
Thedas is a chessboard of "Gods". That's all it ever was and ever will be.
My guess is it's Falon'Din or the Forgotten One Geldauran or a Titan. Perhaps Andruil given she's the Goddess of Sacrifice and the Wardens motto is In Death, Sacrifice...To WHAT?!
Man I can't wait to meet solas it will be so cool if jackdaw and saria did a playthrough I would love just love to watch his playthrough
We'll certainly do a playthrough! That'll be amazing!
Yes yes
If you remember in da2 Meredith could bring statues to life after acquiring the idol. Maybe the idol could be used as an infinite source of lyrium or it could have something to do with Titans maybe I can control them or destroy them. Just a thought.
my heart is breaking already.... again!!!!
Plot twist: there is more than one red lyrium idol 😂😂😂😂
Is there really though!? LOL
@@JackdawYT What if all of the "agents" stories were true? I means it's unlikely considering that they have been referring to the idol in a singular form...but also something to think about 🤣
YES!
Whoop!!
Could Flemath’s dragon form be similar to Solas’s dread Wolf form? Can all the Evanuris have similar forms?
Very possible!
I have been watching Ghildirthalns vids on the elven gods and I noticed most of them have an animal accossiated with them.
There was a codex entry about Ghilan'nain encouraging another elf to 'fly in the form of the Divine'. I presumed this meant a form all the Evanuris used.
I appreciate your videos a lot!
I play recently all the Dragon Age Games again and can't wait for the Next one.
I soak up every little thing like a sponge, bridging for the next Dragon Age.
It hits me anew every time Solas apologizes for his actions. It consoles a little. Despite the fact that he will continue and gives hope that one could really change it.
I'm not one of his fangirls, but I valued him a lot for his personality and intellect. He has become my favorite character, even if I have Cullen. His betrayal hurt me more than any other plot twist in my time as a gamer ...
Even Zack's death in ff7 crisis core didn't bother me as long as the truth about Solas.
It took me 3 days to sigh at my boyfriend and talk about it without being allowed to spoil him! Well, I spoiled a little....
Could Solas be just a Title in the End?
He only says that Solas came before Fen'harel.
''I was Solas first... Fan'harel came later.''
Means: Just another name from many.
So, in my opinion, it couldn't even be a lie. As is so often the case, he didn't say everything and kept half of it hidden.
Even if he thinks it could have been too much...
I thank you for your work, the theories you share with us and most of it makes so much sense. Thank you so much!
Thank you so much for watching!
You know how Templar has been a consistent specialisation in DA? I think if we’re going to Tevinter then that won’t be possible because Dorian confirmed the Tevinter templars are little more than a glorified army. They also don’t have lyrium so they don’t have any special abilities
I agree. I hope we get Emerald Knight, or Chevalier, or perhaps an Arcane Warrior (just starting out martial this time and getting magic abilities). It's either that or we better get a bunch of surprised Mages, "you mean, you're a *real* Templar?" "Templars can't do that!"
Joy Clueless Templar: *drinks a bottle of lyrium* Tevinter Mages: *wait, that’s illegal*
@@happythoughts4553 We could always gain the Lyrium through illegal means like Hawke did if made a Templar in 2. But anyway the alternative is bring back Spirit Warrior. Arcane Warrior is a Mage build. Or perhaps instead of a Templar we can become a Seeker similar abilities and something new story and gameplay wise if we can catch mages blood on fire. But that would still require the shock reactions given that most Magisters don't even know Seekers exist.
Bro, Inquisition when Josephine has that quest where you have to choose between supporting a noble/ruler from Tevinter and Nevarra (or both if you have the skill) was this alluding to a future choice???
I'm rooting for Solas. The Magisters of Tevinter make for a better villain, always.
Never-vinter Nights
Aye aye!
I’d just love it if you could get shale again
Makes ya wonder if the Key has already been shown but not in it's actual form like... That Red Lyrium Varric finds, it's key shape and if Lyrium is alive perhaps the craving is inside but had been overgrown. Makes one wonder.
Maybe the red lyrium idle is a prophecy that Mythal will come to stop solas since she put a piece of herself away? I’m just spitballing aha.
Weren’t humans around before the Veil? Weren’t the dwarves also? Why is it assumed that all other races will die when/if the Veil falls?
I think it’s not so much all creatures dying but more like, civilisation collapsing, bc all is based on a world where the fade is a separate thing and people will not know how to deal with magic suddenly being everywhere and spirits and demons just popping up everywhere. The vast majority of people don’t know how to wield magic and are actively scared of it. Now imaging every single person suddenly having magical abilities... that’s going to be a lot of chaos. And that doesn’t even touch upon the war that the elves would start to reclaim their ancestral lands or what would happen if the evanuris are suddenly free. Sure, life will continue, but not in any way that is familiar to people alive right now.
Can't wait for Dragon Age 4. Hopefully we get a full 7 character battles. Like in Star Ocean Integrity And Faithlessness. Final Fantasy 7 Remake should've added 7 characters all out war battles too. And Ghost Of Tsushima reminds me of Tenchu, Mini Ninjas, and Aragami. 2020 is good so far. Expect for people taking all the toilet paper because of the coronavirus.
Oooh, someone mentions Star Ocean AND Dragon Age, my favorite games of all, in one sentence! I feel proud
I started listening to this and then stopped, got the e-book and started reading lol I'll probably get back to this later, or as I'm reading. I'll also probably be taking taking loads of notes at the same time. I hope I can keep up with my thoughts! hehe :D I'm still just in the first story, but so far I'm really enjoying it.
Hoping you'll love it, it's such an awesome book!
@@JackdawYT Thanks! 😊
Hey Jackdaw! Can you explain some of the side character stories and what will be kept cannon? Like for example, is it Viviane, Leliana, or Cassandra who became the new divine? Did the Bull’s Chargers die or survive? Is Cole seen as a strange human, or a spirit or demon?
Demon/Spirit army = Corypheus 2.0
I sort of hope Solas succeeds in taking down the veil, not because I want him to win, but I keep thinking of all the different plots that could happen after and it gets me extremely excited.
I also hope there will be cameos. I guess I can get why there wouldn't be if Solas knows about past influential companions but they're influential for a reason, and like Varric in inquisition, some may not be able to stay idle while everything happens.
What about the harrowings? Aren't those rituals premise to bind a spirit and not give in to temptation? Aren't all mages in circles implied in that threat over whomever tries to bind a spirit from the fade?
Thanks for posting this. I have some points...
1:40 You say this text could refer to ancient elves, an you could be right, but the text says no [vallaslin] on their face and normal Ferelden accent. This could mean a normal city elf who has gained confidence or even a Dalish elf with a Ferelden accent who has had their vallaslin removed by Solas. But yes, this could also refer to an ancient elvhen like Abelas who has had their vallaslin removed. Is the armor described in detail? It could just be Orlesian armor.
Agents of Fen'Harel bite down on cyanide pills? I think I remember seeing that in Captain America: The First Avenger. Anyway, Yavana has a way of getting info from such agents. The new protag might as well, if BioWare goes with my suggestion of giving the new protag the ability to enter the Fade worlds of people, places, and things.
Antaam female? No such thing. :)
The "true name" thing is a reference to the Alistair comics when Rasaan was asking Isabela what her true name was.
Seems like the Qunari will be a mixed bag in DA4. Antaam will attack, Ariqun will help stop Solas.
Didn't Solas petrify the dwarf and Nevarran mage too at the end when Charter identified him?
I don't like how it states Solas told the Inquisitor of his plan in a moment of weakness, or that he meant to wish the Inquisitor a peaceful life. What if Solas hated the Inquisitor?
Solas tottaly petrified all agents save Charter because she asked for her life.
To your very last question, I think Bioware cannon is Inquisitor and Solas were friends (just like Alistair becoming King, rather than being dead or still a GW)
Thank you for this! I didn't realize Solas killed everyone else!! The things you miss ;) Good thing you caught that though! I appreciate your points!
I think the moment of weakness is more that Solas subconsciously doesn't want his own plan to succeed. He wants to be stopped, he does not want to actually BE a monster. But Solas has had millenia to crunch all the numbers and hasn't found a way out of this course of action. So he's hoping we will.
If he likes the Inquisitor, he is hoping his friend/lover can prove him wrong and save him from having to go thru with it. If he dislikes the Inquisitor, its more of a disdainful challenge. Or maybe just Solas having an innate sense of fair play. Both? I dunno.
Either way, Charter is right when she implies Solas is lying to himself about his stated motives for telling the Inquisitor.
@@AlleluiaElizabeth I think that was his rationale too. Or at the very least, he isn't sure if it's the right way and is willing to allow others to beat him if they can prove their way is better.
I was going to listen to this, but then you said that we should read the book... So, I bought it and now I'm going to read it and theeen listening to you jajaja
Hahaha! The best course of action! I hope you love it!
Been trying to come up with/ design a tattoo of the solas romance. Something that shows the conflict between love for Lavellan and the duty of the Dread Wolf. I'm so far drawing a blank😭any artists help would be appreciated lol. Also, Jackdaw your vids never fail to give me hope for the future of Dragon Age and lore information that i wouldnt have known otherwise. So thank you!!!
Aw thank you so much for supporting and watching my content!!
I’m so desperate for more info on the hero of ferelden and alistar
Imagine once all out war takes place, an exalted march is declared with the inquisitor at the helm.
AAAAAAAAAA
Now I'm even more excited for the next game
So much is left to question and I l o v e it
I just realized, when I saw the Red Lyrium idol, that it is the same idol in DA2 and in the teaser video for DA4. 😂
haha yas!
all these sorries he keeps saying are just adding gas to the flames
"Strokes it"!!? What!! Solas!? You dirty boy you!!
IKR! BOI what are you playing at!
Sorry I thought he doing something naughty
I have a theory that they'll have Origins again, but depending on the Origin you play as Hof, Hawke, Inquisitor or a new character.
That would be so based
I have a question, the old gods are powerful spirits that merge themselves with sentient beings, or do they literally look like what we see in the games, based on Mythal, Solas.
Fenriel could have gone to Tevinter in dragon age 2 if you told him to get help elsewhere. He was a dreamer like Solas. Maybe he'll help. Maybe fenris will also show up and somehow be able to wield the red lyrium sword
*Leaves a like and runs*
I just finished the second story last night.
hahaha! Hope I see you return when you've finished! :D
You bet!😉
What order should I read the books in? I ask because I'll most likely have to purchase my 1st on Google play books as the quarantine has not been good for me.
Here's my book and comic order for canon sake:
The Stolen Throne. The Calling. Silent Grove/Those Who Speak/Until We Sleep (Comics). Asunder. The Masked Empire. The Last Flight. Magekiller (Comic). Knight Errant (Comic). Deception (Comic). Blue Wraith (Comic). Tevinter Nights!
Well my warden commander may have something to say about that. Aince he's searching for a cure and has friended the archon si even if hw did make it he have a chance to be an intelligent dark spawn. And may I avevthe remaining old gods on their side.
I wonder if the titans are gonna have a role to play in this game.
Jackdaw witch character do you think we shall see in DA4 other than Solas? I am sure that if nothing else we shall see Dorian.
Ooo! I'll give you a few! Scout Harding, Charter, Fenris, Sten, The Inquisitor, Bianca, Dorian, Maev, Sandal, Cassandra, Carver/Bethany, and Cole. What do you guys think? Who would you like to see?
All of those people Jack said plus...Blackwall IF made into a Warden, Hawke if outside the Fade, Hawke and Justice together if left in the Fade, Vaea, Ser Aaron Hawthorne, Calix, Francesca Invidus, Autumn, Da'len the Horse, Marius, Tessa Forsythia, Calpernia, Archon/Black Divine Radonis, Our Tallis. Remember Sten is gone it's Arishok now.
@@JackdawYT If we don't see my sweet, gentle Cole I am going to be livid😡🤣
My son
@@JackdawYT what about shale? I mean she is an DLC character but she mentioned to go to tevinter with wynn
17:40 when I first read this, I thought it was Mythal’s power too. But what if Mythal gave Solas the power of the Old God, NOT her own power?
I think we should note that the text says he doesn't like the Tevinter mages using *forbidden* blood magic. If you ask Solas about blood magic in the game and your Inquisitor says it is evil he will disapprove. I also think it will be pretty morally reprehensible if we use binding spirits or forbidden blood magic as a means to an end (aka stopping Solas).
When does Dragon Age 4 come out?
Warden Commander, eh? Does that mean the Warden ally in Inquisition might return in DA4 or even HoF?
In the mortalitasi's tale she mentions that the dread wolf opens a rift and that is how his demon army floods in to the necropolis. So that means he can use the anchor at will and enter the face physically? Warning spoilers!
From the Mortalitasi's tale---"at once we were awake, back in the cavern, and its walls shook and cracked, and then a rift of green light rent the ceiling open above us, and the demons that had accompanied The Dread wolf burst into the world in righteous fury, shining warriors with blades forged from the raw fade itself, and behind them dimly visible through the crackling light, the shadow of the beast itself, from whose slavering Jaws came the final words, roared not in anger, but from quiet contempt."
Please let me know if perhaps I am looking too hard.
I think you're spot on with this!
@@JackdawYT I think Solas was definitely flexing his abilities. On my first read through, that detail stood out to me the most. Another thing is...he was able to track them? How did he know where to open the rift and come through?
I assume it is because the ritual they did with the idol, blood magic and spirits took them to the Fade. With the Dread Wolf living in the Fade, he will have detected an intruder immediately.
@@JackdawYT Oh I see! That makes sense. Btw I am addicted to your videos! They greatly help my own writing. Your break-downs are essential in understanding the vast lore of DA.
Aww thank you so much!! I love talking Dragon Age all day, I'd love to see some of your own writing too!
I think you will play one Charakter with Executer Backround Story!
For the dread wolf!!
Wait... So was Solas the Dread Wolf already and just needed Mythal's power to awaken, or did he absorb her power to become the Dread Wolf?
We don't know that, however, we know he's always been the Dread Wolf, he needed Mythal at that point in time because he was weak.
Someone: Is Solas desperate?
Solas: *puts on blond wig* .... No.
Havent started the vid first, just wanted to ask what order should I read dragon age o: ( having played all games, including that one flash one xD)
The Stolen Throne. The Calling. Silent Grove/Those Who Speak/Until We Sleep (Comics). Asunder. The Masked Empire. The Last Flight. Magekiller (Comic). Knight Errant (Comic). Deception (Comic). Blue Wraith (Comic). Tevinter Nights.
@@JackdawYT thanks :D