Why are there over 30 different Arabic Qur’ans? - Quranic Corrections Ep. 3
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2019
- When Muslims hear anything about Qur’anic variants, they assume these
variants are what is commonly known as ‘Ahruf’, or ‘Qira’at’, which are
nothing more than dialectic differences that have to do with the way
someone reads the text orally. According to tradition Muhammad permitted
7 different Qira’at, or readings while he was alive. These 7 ‘readings’
were then canonized 300 years later by a scholar named Abu Bakr Ibn
Mujahid, who died in the 10th century.
The confusion stems from a one-line reference written by Al Bukhari in
870 AD for the need to write the 652 Uthmanic Qur’an in the ‘Quraishi’
dialect; in other words, to write this Uthmanic text so that those who
speak the Quraishi dialect could read it correctly.
The problem is that no one could have read such a text that early (652
AD), because in order to read dialectical differences in Arabic, one
needs to have diacritical marks (dots above and below the line), and
vowels (which include the Dhamah = the oo sound, the Fatah = the ah
sound, and the Kasrah = the ii sound); but diacritical marks and vowels
had not yet been invented in Arabic. They would not be introduced for
another century or more. So, how could Zaid ibn Thabit have written
Uthman’s Qur’an in the dialect of the Quraish that early?
All he could use was the consonantal script (known as Rasm), made up of
17 - 28 consonantal letters (known as Harf) available to him. Those who
then attempted to read those words would add their own vowels (depending
on which dialect they were reading it aloud in) and try to guess which
of the 17 - 28 letters they were reading, by using the context.
The consonantal letters he used, however, would remain constant,
regardless of whom was reading the text, and regardless of which dialect
they were reading it in.
To explain this, Al Fadi and Jay looked at a number of the earliest
Sunni and Shi’ite manuscripts to prove that none of these earliest
manuscripts (the Samarkand, Sana’a, Topkapi, and Ali manuscripts) have
any diacritical marks (dots). Nor do they have any vowels. They are all
written only using the Rasm, or the basic consonantal script.
They then show how one can create up to five letters using just one
consonantal letter by simply adding dots above and below that letter,
and if one had three of those letters in a row, one could create up to
30 different words, again by adding the dots. This proves just how
inexact the Arabic script was back in the mid-7th century, and why
diacritical marks needed to be created and then used in the manuscripts
which followed.
But in these earliest manuscripts which were created during the 8th
century and later, there simply was no means of writing any dialectical
differences. Therefore, the argument of different Ahruf or different
Qira’at (i.e. different readings or different dialects) make no sense
this early, since there were no dottings, nor any vowels to see those
differences within a consonantal scripted text.
Jay and Al Fadi then introduced 26 different Qur’ans (out of a total of
31) which Hatun Tash was able to buy in market places situated in
Jordan, Morocco, and Yemen, each of which was created by a student
living in the cities of Mecca, Medina, Damascus, Kufa and Basra between
the 8th - 10th centuries. It is from these 26 to possibly 37 different
students that we get the differing Qira’at schools which are popular
today. When observing just the 26 Qur’ans they displayed, Hatun and her
team in London have already found almost 60,000 differences between them
(Note: Since this recording, the number has increased to 93,000
differences).
The Qur’an we are using today around the world was created by one
student living in the city of Kufa who died in 796 AD, which is 144
years after Muhammad.
It is surrounding these differing Qira’at Qur’ans that Muslims today
think the discussion concerning the changed Qur’ans lies. They couldn’t
be further from the truth. These diacritical differences, coupled with
the vowellization, were all created centuries later.
Thus, it is not these later Qira’at differences which we are talking
about at all, but the much earlier and more damaging consonantal
scripted differences. That is the focus of our discussion here.
Therefore, when Uthman (if that story is even true) decided to burn the
Qur’anic manuscripts which disagreed with his canonized Qur’an in 652
AD, he wasn’t burning them because of different Qira’at or Ahruf
readings as Muslims today suggest. He was burning them because their
Rasms (their consonantal) letters were different from that of his own.
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Thank you Jesus for all knowledge from here you was opened my eyes
I am so bless to see both of you doing this amazing work
@@mosaleh9310 :D laughable indeed. You are left far behind. The sun set in SPRING OF MURKY WATER?? Is that God??
@@telangusan7764 I don't know why people say that, just do a little research and you'll find why it says that, it is one of the simplest things that non believers try to use
@@telangusan7764 the quranic verse is talking about the sunset from the human perspective. Have you never seen a sunset beofre or are you living under a rock? What do you see when the sun goes down? Does the sun go inside of the eath like a golf ball or something?
No I'm pretty sure that's not what it meant🤦🏻♀️
Thank you for this very usefull
Wow that’s an eye opening! Never knew this
Thanks for this important work.
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Thank you for sharing the truth again.
This is very informative, i have to watch it twice and pause it and rewind just to digest what they are saying, i mean if not of this video, i have no way of knowing these issue or connecting the dots
Could you please list out all the versions. Some are too small to see.
Thank you for all your hard work. God bless you both!
The bodies of some Muslims remain fresh in the grave is such a great
proof of the existence of God and the true religion of Islam . Atheists
(so-called intellectuals) from all over the world cannot deny this
truth. There is no doubt that the followers of Islam may be wrong but
not Islam.
@@yunusemre550 mashallah brother
Atheist here. This was interesting, if not really that surprising. حَمّام حَمام
When I watch tv7 and listen to how he says certain words I don't even recognize them even though he is looking at the same spelling as me
Put them all in the CZcams playlist
thank al fadi god bless u
Since i realize there are many different quran, i like to buy them. Can cira be the distributor for the book?
Tajweed Qur'an with the Ten Readings (On the Margins) : Mushaf al Tajweed Al Qirat al Ashar
Good series
Congratulation on your video and sounds
This channel has such nice content. You guys deserve more subscribers for sure. Thank you! Perhaps some more collaborative efforts with other channels? Christian Prince perhaps? I know you've had David Wood and Sam Shamoun which were fantastic!
SLOW and STEADY ! THANK YOU FOR THIS CHANNEL.
Was it the Iranians who improved the arabic letter later to make it more applicable or workable??
Omani muslim (Alkhalil son of Ahmed, tribe= Al frahedei), he put the dots and draw the movements( fathah, kasrah, thamah) to make it easier for non arabs who entered Islam to easly read and understand quran, arabic poems, arabic books, etc.
Amazingly the arabic poems that were written before islam are still present until today despite it was written in a difficult words, phrases and languistic expression that were famous and used alot those days than now yet they are still preserve.
On the other hand Quran was memorized and also written (complete) with easy langauage style (vocabulary) and yet they claim (in the video) it is not preserved and with language mistakes!
abu mutaz liars are cowards as you can clearly see of their sayings. Why not invite an Arab & challenge him? Al fadhi the biggest hypocrite
The bodies of some Muslims remain fresh in the grave is such a great
proof of the existence of God and the true religion of Islam . Atheists
(so-called intellectuals) from all over the world cannot deny this
truth. There is no doubt that the followers of Islam may be wrong but
not Islam.
@@yunusemre550 Are they shown publicly??? I am afraid you are hallucinating...
@@jameslevara8027 Assuming that the Qur'an is not an authentic book, then the question is that I have seen with my own eyes the grave of my friend's mother which fell due to rain. His body was the same as it was at the time of burial years later - while the body usually begins to decompose after three days - why doesn't this happen to people of other religions - Why its happen only to people who are associated with Islam. You have any answer?
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These videos that I have sent are obviously you are all considering it as a lie. I have a question for you all.
Suppose these are true videos,
will you all accept Islam as the true religion?
The verbal tradition of the quran should mitigate these differences right? And contextually certain words just make sense right? In addition to this the 1924 eqyptian version is used today which directly correlates its writing with the dialect of the prophet. Naturally it is impossible to prevent different dialects to write their version of the quran down but the Prophet's dialect is preserved and I see all of this as a stretch.
Can we get these resources in ppt or pdf?
May the almighty bless Jay for his hard work.
Or he may not. In case he doesn't exist. That is the most obvious.
The book: "Corrections in Early Qur'an Manuscripts - Twenty Examples" by Daniel Alan Brubaker might interest you.
Imagine a full hand written sheet with punctuation or specific spacing to make you realize a different sentence or paragraph in the text.
You have so interesting episodes.
KEEP IT UP FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY LOVE KINDNESS WOMEN POWER PROSPERITY DIGNITY AND HAPPINESS
Love this series. You are destroying the "perfect preservation" myth.
Reasoned Answers apologetics videos czcams.com/video/s5pRiwFjnag/video.html.
@@zarabees2123 In modern times people have been able to challenge and question the bible and with little if any repercussions but if you question the quran you are racist Islamophobe or bigot then there is harassment of you and your family or death. That is the difference and that is why this work is important
Sahih Al Bukhari Vol 6 and 8 also show that the Quran is not preserved! They are liars and uneducated!
Svetla Nikolova: You are also stupid when you try to quote the sahih Bukhari. You know nuts about it. You only read the transaltion based on your stupid intelligence.
@@jayabdih1 which translation would you recommend then? So many to pick :p lol
Why does no one do written articles anymore?
I like the way he recycled the table cloth on his head
That's the only way Jay Smith can get traction and attention.
Study this example: Dog (the animal) in Arabic is written
كلب
Most Arabs will read it as KALB
Some Bedouins or villagers in certain areas will read it as CHALB (as they say it in their dialect)
But all Arabs will write it exactly the same
Also if a Bedouin uses the formal Arabic he should pronounce it KALB
Which is the dialect of Arabic "in the heaven" in which Quran was originally written ?
@@Leo-do4tu
I do not understand what you mean by this phrase "written in the heaven" and if the holy Quran is written in the heaven then it is written in a form understood by angels and nobody can claim that angels use the Arabic language because the hadiths claiming the Arabic is the language of paradise are weak hadiths.
But I know that the Quran was revealed to Muhammad then he recited it in many dialects. When delegates of Arabs visited Al-Medina from different regions, the prophet used to recite the holy Quran in the dialect of the visiting delegates. But the main dialect in Arabic is the dialect of Quraysh of Mecca. Written Arabic is common and it is only in Fusha or formal Arabic which is the standard Arabic for all Arabs today. When an Arab uses Fusha (the formal Arabic) he should forget about his own dialect and concentrate on using only the formal Arabic.
@mallu christian prince
Always ignorant people try to attack Islam out of their ignorance
The holy Quran was sent as a linguistic miracle to Arabs because they used to pay a lot of attention to the Arabic language. They were shocked with the eloquence and the beauty of its verses. The Arabs who lived in the time of Muhammad where the masters of Arabic language and they were unable to challenge the verses of Quran. God challenged them many times in the Quran to produce something similar but they failed.
Arabs today do not understand the Arabic language of the Holy quran. They need to use other books to explain the meanings of its verses.
Arabs (during Omayyad and Abbasid eras) derived the rules of Arabic language (syntax and semantics) from the holy quran....According to the masters of Arabic grammar, any grammatical aspects included in the Quran are considered the grammatical rules of Arabic. Thus any person who claims that there are grammatical mistakes in the holy quran is simply ignorant.
@mallu christian prince
As an Arab, I consider that writing in local dialects is something wrong. The differences among different dialects are merely in the pronunciation of certain vowels or consonants.
@mallu christian prince
I do not believe that the prophet Muhammad married a child. It is ignorant who considers any hadith 100% correct. Only the holy quran is 100% correct . The credibility of books of hadiths vary...for example Sahih Al-Bukhari might be 90 to 95% authentic. Sahih Muslim might be 85 to 90% authentic...some books of hadiths might be 60 to 65% Authentic only.
By the way, I do not believe that Khadija (the prophet's first wife) was 40 years old when she married the prophet. I believe she was like 30 or 31 years old since she got many children afterwards.
I had no idea Hatun is an ex muslim. And here I thought I couldn't respect and admire her more and she goes and proves me wrong😊
HISmercies nbounties
Funny, that's what people say Every Time an ex-muslim comes forward and speaks against Islam. But I should Definitely believe you this time , right?
@@flawedandbeautiful4166 believe bro.. there are alot of people like her. Search them on youtube.. and see how many ex muslim fraudster like her... shit like that is normal to us
if jesus died for their sin then why some people still go to hell by the bible?
god gave numerous proofs but people choose to believe other people instead of god.god sent the first prophets to israel and they changed the torah then sent jesus pbuh and they made him a god even if the bible itself denies it if
The bible is a witness on its own changing by humans.
jesus is not God by the bible itself-
God is capable of everything right? lets assume he split himslef to three than jesus who is himslef God in flesh calls God my God Matthew 27:46 and worships God in Matthew 26:39 and even if you say that nonsense of even if jesus is God he dont make himslef equal to the father then the bible says God is not a man Numbers 23:19 and that jesus is a man 1 Timothy 2:5.
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; the bible
god then sent mohamed pbuh with the quran where god gave clear proofs
1.The prefontal cortex role lying and mistake:* ناصية كاذبة خاطئة
2.God stated the seven layers of atmosphere and each does something:
What, do you disbelieve in Him who created the earth(the for ground is the same in arabic for ground) in two days, and do you set up compeers to Him? That is the Lord of all Being.
And He set therein firm mountains over it, and He blessed it, and He ordained therein its diverse sustenance in four days, equal to those who ask.'
Then He lifted Himself to heaven when it was smoke(reffering to primordial smoke) and said to it and to the earth, "Come willingly, or unwillingly!" They said, "We come willingly."
So He determined them as seven heavens(the word for hevean is the same for sky in arabic) in two days, and revealed its commandment in every heaven.' So he means seven skies inside the earth and each has its commandment plus god answers the question did he make the earth in six days:no because in the first 2 days there were no sky so no night and morning(a day) so god means a period using the word day.
3.the pharoh didnt die in the sea with moses pbuh watching
just look for ramses 2 body its pharaoh body that stayed the same like weirdly the same as god stated
So today We shall deliver thee with thy body, that thou mayest be a sign to those after thee. Surely many men are heedless of Our signs.'
the big bang The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written] sheet for the records. As We began the first creation, We will repeat it. [That is] a promise binding upon Us. Indeed, We will do it.
superionic water discoverd in 2019:And say, "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." Indeed, We have prepared for the wrongdoers a fire whose walls will surround them. And if they call for relief, they will be relieved with water like murky oil, which scalds [their] faces. Wretched is the drink, and evil is the resting place. water with extreme tempreture becomes black and not liquide not solid.
homo habilis (habil is the one of the children of adam) homo habilis lived 2 million years ago was found with equipment next the fossils and are the second humans after the ''animal evolution'' mistake of scientist darwin
4.sperm and fetus devlepment excatly.ثُمَّ خَلَقْنَا النُّطْفَةَ عَلَقَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْعَلَقَةَ مُضْغَةً فَخَلَقْنَا الْمُضْغَةَ عِظَامًا فَكَسَوْنَا الْعِظَامَ لَحْمًا ثُمَّ أَنشَأْنَاهُ خَلْقًا آخَرَ ۚ فَتَبَارَكَ اللَّهُ أَحْسَنُ الْخَالِقِينَ
5.dinasaurs died because of black smoke that blocked the sun in the day of judgment the same will happen( the day the sky will be black smoke is mentionned in the quran). يَوْمَ تَكُونُ السَّمَاءُ كَالْمُهْلِ /فَارْتَقِبْ يَوْمَ تَأْتِي السَّمَاءُ بِدُخَانٍ مُّبِينٍ
6.chock waves in the day of judgment when explosion of sun.يوم تمور اسماء مورا
7. nasa scientist noticed loosing eye seight when going to space . وَلَوْ فَتَحْنَا عَلَيْهِم بَابًا مِّنَ السَّمَاءِ فَظَلُّوا فِيهِ يَعْرُجُونَ (14) لَقَالُوا إِنَّمَا سُكِّرَتْ أَبْصَارُنَا بَلْ نَحْنُ قَوْمٌ مَّسْحُورُونَ
8.olive tree oil has on of the highest lights (seen with UV) scientifique miracle شَجَرَةٍ مُّبَارَكَةٍ زَيْتُونَةٍ لَّا شَرْقِيَّةٍ وَلَا غَرْبِيَّةٍ يَكَادُ زَيْتُهَا يُضِيءُ وَلَوْ لَمْ تَمْسَسْهُ نَارٌ
11.ants and bees communication
12.crows understand death
14.internal waves quran أَوْ كَظُلُمَاتٍ فِي بَحْرٍ لُّجِّيٍّ يَغْشَاهُ مَوْجٌ مِّن فَوْقِهِ مَوْجٌ مِّن فَوْقِهِ سَحَابٌ ۚ ظُلُمَاتٌ بَعْضُهَا فَوْقَ بَعْضٍ
17.he made pairs of thing we cant see is said in the quran( think about it the anti matter plus and minus in
lectricity)خَلَقَ ٱلْأَزْوَٰجَ كُلَّهَا مِمَّا تُنۢبِتُ ٱلْأَرْضُ وَمِنْ أَنفُسِهِمْ وَمِمَّا لَا يَعْلَمُونَ pairs mean sexually and also sun
ight hell\fire asexual
ormal reproduction
18.moutains like ships
19.mountains like pegs quran
20.explosion of stars like a painted rose quran فَإِذَا انشَقَّتِ السَّمَاءُ فَكَانَتْ وَرْدَةً كَالدِّهَانِ
21.weight of clouds
22.snakes walk and dont scroll quran
2.the sound of pulsars like knocking وَالسَّمَاءِ وَالطَّارِقِ (1) وَمَا أَدْرَاكَ مَا الطَّارِقُ (2) النَّجْمُ الثَّاقِبُ (3)
3.jesus was not crusified or died it was made to seem like @t god states in the quran.but the crusification did happen just not jesus.
22.ALLAH meaning god in arabic is written on the africa picture of NASA which is the same word for god in aramaic the language of jesus alaha or elah and maaaaaany more tectonic plates mouvements وَتَرَى الْجِبَالَ تَحْسَبُهَا جَامِدَةً وَهِيَ تَمُرُّ مَرَّ السَّحَابِ ۚ صُنْعَ اللَّهِ الَّذِي أَتْقَنَ كُلَّ شَيْءٍ ۚ إِنَّهُ خَبِيرٌ بِمَا تَفْعَلُونَ ,cosmic structure(a samae binae),expansion of universe وَالسَّمَاءَ بَنَيْنَاهَا بِأَيْدٍ وَإِنَّا
لَمُوسِعُونَ
lowest point on earth,the devil made of fire which explains why we cant see it(if you take each component of fire alone you cant see it with your eyes),the fact that we didnt evolve of ancestor between us and monkeys but are a different creature. astronautes look like they are swiming in space وَهُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَ اللَّيْلَ وَالنَّهَارَ وَالشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ ۖ كُلٌّ فِي فَلَكٍ يَسْبَحُونَ
إِنَّمَا يَخْشَى اللَّهَ مِنْ عِبَادِهِ الْعُلَمَاءُ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَزِيزٌ غَفُورٌ
@t ,,i make my own research but hope this site will help.
i have been searching for one mistake in n the quran for 10 years havent found one.the ones who says ut has mistake either dont understand arabic and the transelation is not that accurate giving scientifique mistakes by transelating wrong or are liars or sometimes just stupid without any scientific backround or attack islam with that mohammed is a pedophile,dumb ass terrorist who are against the quran,or some other nonsense to hide their mistake.
dont deny the truth while you heard it.
greetings from finland.
all muslims have one quran wherever you Go.
the quran with excatly 114 verses,the luinguistic miracle,the one who a type of writting was made just for it the ottoman writting.
the heart never lies just listen to the quran in arabic for half an hour+ how we know all the verses are from God are two things the luinguistic miracles which you will never understand because you dont speak the language +the effect on the heart no other human words do that.and recitaion is called RECITATION for a reason not VERSION the WORDS STAY THE SAME THE ONES FROM God because its the same exact words but in arabic you call spell a house or a car housa or caro and it wont change nothing at all but you wont understand this because you dont speak arabic+two words can be merged in one word in arabic and you can read the one you want but arabic is so complicated you wont understand..
if you won a debate with jay i will sbecome christian right now...
وَقُلْ جَاءَ الْحَقُّ وَزَهَقَ الْبَاطِلُ ۚ إِنَّ الْبَاطِلَ كَانَ زَهُوقًا
Thank you for showing truth
Thank you...
How can we know which is which in qur'an ?? it can be interpreted in many different ways and meanings
There is only one version of Quraan unlike various gospels written in greek when jesus spoke aramaic....
The Quraan was revealed and originally written without the vowels, this was added later for non arabic readers especially. So "arabic variations" exist due to this, but there is only 1 Quraan.
explore-islam.com/are-there-different-versions-of-quran/
Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 2:
اللَّهُ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ
Allah, (there is) no god but He, the Everliving, the Self-subsisting by Whom all things subsist
Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 3:
نَزَّلَ عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَأَنزَلَ التَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنجِيلَ
He has revealed to you the Book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and He revealed the Taurat (scripture of moses) and the Injeel (scripture of jesus) aforetime.
Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 4:
مِن قَبْلُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَنزَلَ الْفُرْقَانَ إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بِآيَاتِ اللَّهِ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ وَاللَّهُ عَزِيزٌ ذُو انتِقَامٍ
Aforetime, as a guidance to mankind, and it is He who has bestowed the standard by which to discern the true from the false. Surely they who disbelieve in the communications of Allah they shall have a severe chastisement; and Allah is Mighty, the Lord of retribution.
via iQuran
@@Shahid-if4ws There are 36 different versions of Arabic qur'an all over the world....
There is ONLY ONE greek version of the Bible.... and our Bible has been translated in many different languages all over the world...even Dr Yasir Qadhi (Islamic scholars of Pakistan) said that at least he found three different version of ARABIC Qur'an
@@jameslevara8027
Lol.
There are unknown number of greek gosoels, the number known go into hundreds.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gospels
Jeremiah 8;8
“‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the lawof the Lord,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
How Bible Changed;
czcams.com/video/6xMo323BDvY/video.html
Contradictions in Old Testament by Dr. L. Brown;
czcams.com/video/t4FGrSiABhg/video.html
Ive already answered that arabic Quraan only varies in some vowels, meaning that they only differ when reciting, meaning does not change.
@@Shahid-if4ws The verse you quoted was addressed to the people who against God...
that is a silly thing in your mind...NOT logic...
The accusation that our Bible has changed is against the character of God who is able to protect his own word...
Moreover... our Bible is so perfect that some detail on the important events in the history of the creation till he time of Noah were written perfectly in sequence... which you can not find it in your qur'an....
How come you followed a'prophet' who had been bewitched by the demon?? It is obvious that Mohammad was a false prophet... or a prophet of the demons...
Dr Al Fadi and Dr Jay Smith has proven how those changes in writing has serious impact on its meaning... So the claims of the Muslim that their qur'an has not been changed even one single dot is completely FALSE...
You will be ended in hellfire together with your allah the great deceiver....
@@Shahid-if4ws How come your qur'an revealed a false prophecy that the corpse of Mohammad will NOT be consumed by the earth??? It is clearly that Mohammad's corpse has been decayed...
How come your Mohammad died by poisoning? his allah was NOT able to protect him??
His allah is just a great deceiver...
Ex-muslim here. Thank you Fadi for all these eye opening videos
Same here lol. We're a growing number, whter we are Christian (like I am now) or agnostic atheist etc. All evidence leads you out of Islam.
Congratulations to you both!
Supposedly 30, 37!! 500!! Differents Qurans, and they haven't showed any of them.
For non arabic speakers you may be overwhelmed unknown sounds and words they're talking about, and you add to that you are unfamiliar with the subject, but if you were to know arabic and the difference scripts and you study the subject you'll know that there is just one Quran.
I'll use Jay's potato example We all know in English the sound "POTATO" means the roundy vegetable thingy that we commonly write "potato" know get someone who different people with different writing skills and from different areas and ask them to write the sound "potato" these will be some of the probabilities:
Potato
Potatou
Poutato
Poutatou
Potatu
Putato
Putatu
but if you ask all of them to point at the roundy vegetable thing they all gonna point at "potato"
Example in the uk in England a "Mouse" is pronounced "Mawss" but if you go up to Scotland and speak to a Scot person they will pronounce it "Moss".
The same animal pronounced differently and if you were to script it, in the case of you script it differently depending on your knowledge of the language and the script. the subject matter goes back to the 7th century, and the Arabic scripts have come a long way since then. hence the undotted "unvowelled / Shakl" early manuscript they showed.
Conclusion: the Quran was initially delivered in an vocal way and the people recorded it according to their respectual level of using the scripts, and some of them were even including their own understanding along the Quranic text. and they even recycled the scarce material on which they wrote the Quran, which is known today as different layers/level and this is an ancient practice well documented by Manuscript scholars.
Aircrfat : Plane
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Haaa!! you see different Kur'ans, different Qurans!!
Ex Christian here. Thank you Dr. Bart Erhman for exposing the corruption + forgeries of the Bible.
@@user-rr9gh5ko1c they showed 32 different qurans and you missed that video! Each Quran has a medallion on the front that said it is different from the other
Can somebody please explain to me because there is one book written that Muhammad died without any problem but died peacefully but there is other book in which Muhammad died by poisen .what actually the truth 😐🤔
You should make this in Arabic!
Hebrew not written with vowels which is why no one knows how to pronounce the name of God quoted to Moses. Is it Yahweh or Jehovah or something else?
You are right. The original Hebrew letters do not have vowels; thus, making it impossible for us to correctly pronounce God’s Name: YHWH. However, it is pronounced “YAHWEH” or JEHOVAH” depending on the vowels one decides to use to help in pronouncing it. But the pronunciation is not important, because there is a commandment against pronouncing God’s Name. Exodus 20:7 reads, “Thou shall not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.”
Interestingly, when the Bible translators translated the Bible from its three original languages (Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic) to other languages, they used the word “LORD” which they spelled in capital letters to replace “YHWH”. In other words, “YHWH” = “LORD”. Example: Genesis 4:9 is translated this way: And the LORD said unto Cain, “Where is Abel, thy brother?”
Some Hebrew scholars have determined that the Hebrew letters for “YHWH” are the same letters used to describe “Hands and Nails”. That is remarkable.
It can be deduced with confidence. Jehovah is wrong.
There was no Hard J sound in Hebrew or Greek or even early English language.
I stated a fact. I made not judgement about the original languages. God's word judges us we are not supposed to judge it.
I will like Jay Smith to write a comprehensive book on Quran since he has done so much research on manuscript of Quran and its credibility. This should be published in India so that it's cheap and has very wide circulation. All videos done by him can be incorporated and given a continuity in reading.
Hi CIRA, you should watch those videos trying to debunk you hahaha. you still make logical and educational videos even idk what you talking half the time.picking up along the way...
Can we arrange a debate on any topic of your choice so I can answer all your so called evidence?
Amazing , God Bless You الرب يباركم
when Al Fadi has done his studies, I think he needs to collaborate with Jay Smith and bring a book out with some convicting material. I would buy it and use it when im out doing the gospel. :D
False Religion & Cults Are From Hell he should collaborate with Bart Ehrman czcams.com/video/s5pRiwFjnag/video.html
@irishxxkelt - I have that book yes, its very good, but that is nothing compared to whats in store. thousands and thousands of new ones will be on its way soon 🙂
@irishxxkelt - I have followed Jay Smith for a while and ive listened to his videos. He knows a lot of stuff and he knows researchers. The problem is Muslims are ashamed of the material and they know its false. I do the same with Mormons, Jehovahs Witnesses and also the muslims. If they really believe their faith is true, they would be able to respond. instead they are following scripts by false teachers and they are told different what their imam says. It doesnt match the Quran. Thats why when they are at Hyde Park they are shocked.
@irishxxkelt - I already said I have got the book
False Religion & Cults Are From Hell search your own first & see if it is the right God, the right religion.
Gbu brother.
If you have any confusion watch videos of sheikh uthman Ibn farooq on this.
I suggest that these videos should also be transcripted and save in written format so that there could be used for academic purposes.
Academic purposes do not use false information
@@asmaaeldeeb4225 from all indications, you don't have the ability to decipher what is truth because you're in a false and deceptive religion.
A religion that encourages lying by it's faithful in defense of it and is convenient with deception yet you have the effontary to talk about false information.
What's false about what Al-Fahdi and Jay Smith are doing?, Or are you now denying your Islamic manuscript?.
Better still, you have just exposed your ignorance about your false religion and you can't seem to be able to handle the truth.
Why don't you dam the consequences and accept the love of God through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and be saved. Jesus Christ loves you come on home brother.
@@davidbassey693 Also Your comment indicates your little knowledge about Islam.
Actually I'm following jesus (PBUH)
But Why do you believe in Jesus as God while he never said this?
He even said that Father in heaven is the only true God.
So i worship the God of jesus,
This is my religion bro 🤍
@@asmaaeldeeb4225 Don't change the subject and besides Jesus never encouraged Christians to lie to protect Christiandom like your Taqquiya.
Islam is a religion without integrity.
@@davidbassey693 Lol😂😂
You mean taqiyya that Paul started,
Read 1 Co 9:20 To the Jews I became like a Jew to gain the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law) to gain those under the law. 21 To those free from the law I became like one free from the law (though I am not free from God’s law but under the law of Christ) to gain those free from the law ?
Sorry, this was paul, who Christians follow!
By the way, I didn't change the subject, you are the one who advised me to accept Jesus, so i told you we Muslims are following Jesus peace be upon him more than you do
Theres a few issues here:
1. The Uthman Codex is the verified, cross checked and referenced Quran by the top Quran memorisers of the time. This text exists today (Samarkand Kufic Quran) and can be checked against the Hafs Quran we have today.
2. The so called different Qurans of today are all produced after the Uthmanic Codex and are accepted by the Ummah according to the laws of Ahruf and Qiraat. If anybody does not accept these texts they can always refer back to the Uthmanic text.
3. So called scriptural variants were personal records of individuals in the early days of Islam that may have scribal errors, yet when checked against other variants its obvious where scribal errors occurred - these errors are not so big as christians like Brubaker make out and its a miracle in itself how accurate these individual records are. There would be the odd vowel or word out of place at worst on a single page. Even then the whole collection of the ‘variant’ manuscripts can show up where the writer of a variant may have made minor mistakes. Again the authoritative version is the Uthmanic Codex NOT the ‘variant’ writings.
3. The ‘skeleton’ if the text of the Quran is complete, where scholars have debated is to the placement of grammatical and pronunciation of words. For example Maliki vs Maaaaliki
4. The Prophet saws in a hadith addressed the issue of dialectic variations and allowed such variations. But again if christians want to assert muslims have many ‘versions’ of the Quran and want to ignore the rules of ahruf and qiraat or that individual variant manuscripts have minor errors then they can always refer back to the Uthmanic Codex compiled only 14yrs after the death of the Prophet saws and by the companions of the Prophet saws who were present during his lifetime.
5. Challenge any christian to sit down with you and use the Uthmanic Quran, ALL the variant manuscripts and follow word for word the Quran we have today. Ask them to brush up on their arabic.
6. The christians are trying to say that even if the Quran is 99.9999% correct it cannot be the preserved Quran if it is not 100% correct. You will understand how absurd these people are and how desperate they are to find a 0.0001% inaccuracy. Its a desperation that comes about when you know your own scripture can barely hold itself together.
Who says any of us are Christians? This is a history lesson
You did not mention what your parents said about you converting
@BilMasVOY TV , have you seen it
But the way it was written and this is supported by Muslims scholars was not in Arabic but Syriac and later additional written intonation which defeat the beliefs that not a word or anything was changed as it was the direct word of God, there are today 5 different versions of the Quor'an, meaning that the belief is based on a lie that there is only one Quor'an.
Amen!
Need your help. Is it "Amen Ra", you're trying to convey?
Oh man, if only we some way of verifying the text, maybe if it was committed to memory by people and repeated dozens of times a day! Can you please provide actually words and sentences that vary in the recitations?
Showed: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
The meaning still the same .
The Arabic text also evolved nothing new .
Logic dictate
Verbal comes first . Text come later .
So the texts of the Quranic Tablet in heaven is also updated?
@@FaFa-fl1kh since when tablet exist in heaven.
Yes thats correct the meaning of word is the same. How it is spell up to human.
The original that there is only one copy to Quraan and one islam that the fact but enemies of islam divided the religion and tried to edit quraan and some did and spreadrd copies of it everywhere but thank to Allah this issue is fixed and fake copies got burned , Allah said : we granted Quraan and we will protect it . It is well protected from Allah Alhadulliah.
The confusion stems from a one-line reference written
by Al Bukhari in
870 AD for the need to write the 652 Uthmanic Qur'an
in the 'Quraishi
dialect; in other words, to write this Uthmanic text so
that those who
speak the Quraishi dialect could read it correctly.
The problem is that no one could have read such a
text that early (652
AD), because in order to read dialectical differences in
Arabic, one
needs to have diacritical marks (dots above and below
the line), and
Vowels (which include the Dhamah = the oo sound, the
Fatah = the ah
sound, and the Kasrah = the ii sound); but diacritical
marks and vowels
had not yet been invented in Arabic. They would not
be introduced for
another century or more. So, how could Zaid ibn Thabit
have written
Uthman's Qur'an in the dialect of the Quraish that
early?
Al fadi why are there over 200 types of bible?...
The Quran is an orally transmitted revelation. It was memorised by the conpanions of the prophet and passed on Scripts were not depended on. As Islam grew the script was standardised by Umar to make sure different written Qurans didnt proliferate
Simple
Uthman burned majority of other copies except his
All of a sudden it now orally transmitted, not written by allah. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😆😆😆😆
@@mohammedallah8083 it was orally transmitted. The sababa wrote it. Allah never put pen to paper
@@iajznsnwnz9844Good. Allah never wrote anything.
@@mohammedallah8083 but Allah revealed it.
The Quran's content, wording and recitation is preserved. Even the original Quran manuscript still exist till this day and it can be carbon dated back to the time of Prophet Muhammad s.a.w.
The reading maybe different but the meaning is still the same..
Jay Smith already knew some of the basic in reading the Quran and the chronicles of Quran until became in a book form why make it complicated ???
Nothing has been changed on the text only that the vowels has been added to assist the readers to read the Quran in a correct manner & disciplines..
All the Qiraat, the hafs the rasm is only a technical & guidence for the readers..
The main thing is the Holy Quran has been preserved since it has been reveal to Prophet Muhammad SAW till the modern world today as ALLAH has mentioned ' We revealed the Quran & we'll protect it '
Tuahfawna Kecit, I suggest you listen to what it is said in this video, this time carefully, and then say if Quran you read today is the same Quran people listen to 1400 years ago. Diacritical marks and vowels have been added, and that is an important, very important modification. Moreover, the most popular Quran of today, Hafs Quran, is practically a compilation after a recitation ( made in 1924 AD) and it has no any manuscript at its base.
And oral tradition is the most less reliable way of transmitting a text over generations and generations,
You keep telling yourself that while all around you show otherwise !
If majority of arabs can't even read the quran then how do they know even know which is the correct Quran? That's the very problem with the Quran. Jay Smith and Al Fadi are just clarifying it.
But if the quran was really preserved by verbal alone then why need a book? Kinda proves the point from the hadiths where it says"It is reported from Ismail ibn Ibrahim from Ayyub from Naafi from Ibn Umar who said: “Let none of you say ‘I have acquired the whole of the Qur’an’. How does he know what all of it is when much of the Qur’an has disappeared? Rather let him say ‘I have acquired what has survived.'” (as-Suyuti, Al-Itqan fii Ulum al-Qur’an, p.524).
How it can be correct if there were not any dots??????? These dots creating letters.
Tuahtfawna, if the multiple gods of islam said THEY would "protect it," then why did Caliph Uthman have to destroy multiple differeng versions of the quran before creating his own version ?
Who gave Uthman the authority to determine the contents of the quran and whiich dialect of Arabic it would be in? After all, muhammed claimed the quran was reavealed in 7 different ahruf (dialects) and claimed ALL of them were correct.(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 041, Number 601)
Also, if the quran is "protected," why are many revelations missing? The hadith mention several "revelations" that are no longer contained the quran, such as Muhammed's Satanic verses, stoning for adultery, and this one about BREASTFEEDING : "A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that it had been revealed in the Qur'an that ten clear sucklings make the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated by five sucklings and Allah's Apostle (saw) died and before that time it was found in the Qur'an. (Sahih Muslim, Vol. 2, p.740).
It is clearly stated that the Qur'an had originally contained a verse prescribing a prohibition on the marriage of two people who had been breastfed by the same woman at least ten times. This verse was then abrogated and another was substituted for it, restricting the number to five. Where is this verse in the Qur'an? It too is missing - has it also been abrogated? If so, what came in its place?
Perfectly Preserved
Get hamed abdel samad on this show please!
To understand the origins of the Quran, we must consider the Arab society of the time. The Arabs communicated vocally and as most were illiterate, the Quran was not compiled into a collection during the life of the Prophet (P.B.U.H.). Instead, the verses were documented on parchment, leather, bone and other materials. The Quran was revealed to the Prophet (P.B.U.H.) in seven different styles and each of these styles were recited by the companions until the Prophet (P.B.U.H.) had approved of their recitation. Each of the styles, albeit their differences, had the same meaning.
After the death of the Prophet (P.B.U.H.), it was decided by Abubakar, the father-in-law of the Prophet (P.B.U.H.), that the Quran be compiled into a collection after a great number of Muslims, who had memorised the entire Quran, had been killed in the battle Yammama. In order to verify its authenticity, the verses had to be corroborated by 12 of those who had memorised the entire Quran in the presence of 2 witnesses, before being added to the collection.
At this time, the Quran did not have any vowels or markings because the people who possessed these Qurans were native Arabs who already knew the verses of the Quran and could recite easily without difficulty. However, when Islam spread into other regions, there was confusion as people did not understand how to read the Quran and the fact that there were seven different styles only created more confusion. To resolve this issue, Uthman decided that only one copy should be distributed and favoured the script of the Quraysh dialect as it was the tribe that the Prophet (P.B.U.H.) was originally from. The other copies were destroyed and the Mushaf was distributed as the standard script. This lead to the emergence of the standard script of the Quran known as the 'Mushaf'. To further ensure that the integrity of the Quran was preserved, Uthman established schools to ensure the correct recitation and writing of the Quran. This eliminated the possibility of incorrect recitation or copies of the Quran and those that had graduated from these schools were able to teach the Quran to others.
It was only later, during the caliphate of Ali, where the diacritical marks where introduced to ensure that those who were unable to attend the recitation schools, established by Uthman, would be able to recite the Quran on their own.
Allah promises the preservation of the Quran in Surat Al-Hijr: "Indeed, it is We who sent down the Quran and indeed, We will be it's guardian." (15:9). The Quran has been preserved and the meaning of the verses of the Quran have stood against the challenge of time. Even if you choose to ignore all the above points and insist that the minor differences are significant, ask yourself if any other text can be produced to the accuracy of the modern day Quran and the manuscripts of old.
The reason most people keep the Mushaf as the standard script of the Quran and the reason that so many educated atheists convert to Islam is due to the mathematical miracle of the Mushaf which has confirmed to Muslims that it is the word of Allah.
To conclude, Jeffrey Lang, a mathematician and revert to Islam, concluded this argument beautifully saying that
“so far the manuscripts show some unconventional verse orderings, minor textual variations, and rare styles of orthography and artistic embellishment. However, the past existence of such manuscripts is well known to Muslims and those that did not completely agree with the Uthmanic text were eliminated in various ways. The recovery of an ancient manuscript dating back to the earliest history of Islam that differs in minor ways from the Uthmanic text and that was eliminated from circulation will hardly cause Muslims to feel the need to rewrite their history; if anything, it will only confirm it for them.” and so you should understand that practising Muslims do know of the existence of these manuscripts but referring to the reasons stated above, we will be unwavering in our belief that the Mushaf is the word of Allah.
I welcome any arguments that you may present so that I may understand your thought process and I only ask that you keep the discussion civil unlike some that I have had in the past.
How is it that the "angel" who supposedly gave the revelations to muhammed did not know muhammed could not read? Isn't the muslim allah "all-knowing?" Why didn't the "angel" just give the tablet to a literate person instead of repeatedly terrorizing muhammed? Yahweh God managed that with Moses, but allah couldn't figure that out with muhammed for some reason.
How is it possible that over the the 23 long years it took muhammed to make up the revelations in the quan, he never learned to write?
It appears allah lied when he claimed he would protect the quran: the sahih hadith point to many missing parts of the quran,(for instance -.the forgotten surah mentioned in sahih muslim vol,2, page 501, the missing Satanic verses of muhammed, the stoning,verses that were eaten by a goat, and those parts lost when the memorizers were killed in battle.)
@@elsemorris906 @J Howe If you actually researched half of the claims made in this video, you would know most are fabricated or stem from weak hadiths.
If you actually read my response, you would know the Quraysh were an oral community and did not read or write. It was very rare for people to do so and that is why the Quran was transmitted orally. There is not point in comparing modern day customs to societies of old because that is not logical due to the difference in societal practise.
My response also details the precautions taken to preserve the integrity of the Quran so I will not waste my time because of your ignorance. Please go and read my response again.
The reference you have provided 'Sahih Muslim vol,2, page 501' for your point is invalid. Please ensure that you present actual reliable sources for your claims.
Allah and the angel Jibreel are entirely different. Jibreel does not know all that Allah knows so it would not make sense to ask why Jibreel did not know of the Prophet's (P.B.U.H.) illiteracy.
If you would like to present a point, please make sure that it is valid and that you have verified your sources. I will not waste my time doing your homework for you but you do manage to present a valid point, I will be happy to debate the issue.
@@abu5197 You claim the "Qurayash were an oral community,' yet the "god" of Islam didn't know this? How is that possible - I thought allah was "all knowing" ?
"Allah" sends a spirit with a series of tablets supposedly containing his words (in seven different dialects) that NOBODY CAN READ?
Yet muhammed managed to find scribes to copy down some of his revelations as he made them up and abrogated them, so SOMEBODY must have been able to read and write on those palm leaves, stones and animal bones they used!
From Ibn Abi Dawud, Kitab al-Masahif-"Many (of the passages) of the Qur’an that were sent down were known by those who died on the day of Yamama . . . but they were not known (by those who) survived them, nor were they written down, nor had Abu Bakr, Umar or Uthman (by that time) collected the Qur’an, NOR WERE THEY FOUND WITH EVEN ONE (PERSON) AFTER THEM."
No wonder the quran is such a disorganized mess - huge chunks of it are missing!
@@abu5197 Abu, It's amazing how often muslims try the "weak hadith" ploy. The hadith are the most damning evidence against muhammed's behavior and teachings, aren't they? Yet, since the quran puts obedience to muhammed at the same level as obedience to islam's "god," muslims can't avoid the hadith.
Who gave Uthman the authority to rewrite the quran 18 years after the death of muhammed? (All those varying versions of the quran existed just 18 yrs. after muhammed's death - yet you claim it was an "ORAL SOCIETY" ??)
And who gave Uthman authority to DESTROY thousands of qurans - yet the muslim population goes out of its collective mind today if ONE quran is burned?
When Ibn Umar-son of the second Muslim caliph-heard people declaring that they knew the entire Qur’an, he said to them: “Let none of you say, ‘I have learned the whole of the Koran,’ for how does he know what the whole of it is, when much of it has disappeared? Let him rather say, ‘I have learned what is extant thereof’” (Abu Ubaid, Kitab Fada’il-al-Qur’an).
One of Muhammad’s companions, Abu Musa, supported this claim when he said that the early Muslims forgot two surahs due to laziness:
Sahih Muslim 2286-Abu Musa al-Ash’ari sent for the reciters of Basra. They came to him and they were three hundred in number. They recited the Qur’an and he said: You are the best among the inhabitants of Basra, for you are the reciters among them. So continue to recite it. (But bear in mind) that your reciting for a long time may not harden your hearts as were hardened the hearts of those before you. We used to recite a surah which resembled in length and severity to (Surah) Bara’at. I have, however, forgotten it with the exception of this which I remember out of it: “If there were two valleys full of riches, for the son of Adam, he would long for a third valley, and nothing would fill the stomach of the son of Adam but dust.” And we used to recite a surah which resembled one of the surahs of Musabbihat, and I have forgotten it . . .
This shows that entire chapters of the Qur’an were forgotten and are missing from the 30 Arabic qurans in use today. So much for being "perfectly preserved," right?
@@elsemorris906 It saddens me to see how uneducated you are on the history of the Quran. What makes me even more confused is your inability to read my replies. My initial response clearly details how the Quran was not compiled during the life of the Prophet (P.B.U.H.) and you would have known this if you read my reply.
Your claim that Allah knew not of the oral nature of the Qurashi community has no basis and is invalid as that is not what was suggested in my response.
Please stop making assumptions and comment on my argument rather than deducing your own ideas.
When any imam leads the prayers infront of a congregation and then in the middle of his recitation of the Quran has a senior moment and forgot the words ... then someone from the back throw the missing word or phrase to help the imam , there is no need for Rasm or vowels ... If you delete ALL the Quran on this planet and burn every manuscripts and every copies ... you can still bring back the Quran ... it is hidden in the heart of the lovers of Allah ( God) ( subhanah) the goal of the Quran is to be recited and memorized ...No one is using a manuscript to recite the Quran 5 times a day ... this is not about Islam it is a research about ink and paper of old time and ignoring the hearts of millions who knows the Quran by heart
you should research on why does the Quran hides in the heart of the beloved ones ...
"the hearts of millions who knows the Quran by heart" According to those memories, does Muhammad's Quran 23:87 have: "to Allah"? or "Allah's"?
23.087, www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/16955/pg16955.txt
Y: They will say, "(They belong) to Allah." Say: "Will ye not then be filled with awe?"
P: They will say: Unto Allah (all that belongeth). Say: Will ye not then keep duty (unto Him)?
S: They will say: (This is) Allah's. Say: Will you not then guard (against evil)?
Arberry translation, archive.org/stream/QuranAJArberry/Quran-A%20J%20Arberry_djvu.txt
23:85 .... [23:87] They will say, 'God's.' Say: 'Will you not then remember?'
Maulana Muhammad Ali translation, www.aaiil.org/text/hq/trans/ch23.shtml
23:87 They will say: (This is) Allah’s. Say: Will you not then guard against evil?
If no one is using the various *Arabic* Qurans and no one finds them authoritative why are they being printed ? If millions of people have memorised this thing how come not one was able to write it down without making a complete hash of it? It is as if you are reading from a script, if all of the printed Qurans were destroyed it would not be long before you would be back to the point before the Uthmanic recension, people reciting different things and fighting each other over it, sooner or later Muslims will have to face the fact that the Quran has not been perfectly preserved.
@@tochukwunjoku( I don't think you know the difference between marbles and walnuts. .. Muhammed Ali , Malcom X , Cat Stevens..and others should have taken permission from you before embracing Islam , because you are so high...
@@spotthecat2412 That is your wish
@@spotthecat2412 in Tanger (Morocco) kids come to tourist to make money and they can speak fluently Spanish , French , Dutch , Italian , Portuguese
Swidish ... And the shops owners can speak as much ... they never needed a book or manuscript , therefore you should give human that ability to learn without reading , is this hard for you to understand ? many Emigrants to USA speak English without ever reading it ...
Absolutely love the dedication.I am saying this even though i am on the opposing team.
Same here, we should be open towards knowledge! Being blind towards can certainly be problematic!
This is why we have isnaad in islam. That means a chain of narrators. The ijazah (permission) to say you have memorised the quran is not merely from text but from a chain of teachers that leads back to the messenger (pbuh).
Does your channel have examples where the 'different Qurans' present any differing theologies or rulings?
Yes the written text can be inaccurate, I can see this and have known this as a convert/revert to Islam but even so any sensical reading come with either complementary or synonymous meanings. I try to be open minded and am willing to hear your academic points.
With all respect you talk a lot but not going into details about conflicting meanings/messages.
There was no Quor'an in 632. The Quor'an was written or put together by the kaliph Malik!
Thanks for the info. Will investigate.
- Muhammad (Salvation be upon him)
- Quran (Correction be upon it)
- Rashidun (Redemption be upon them)
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@@einc70 if you want to investigate further, why were till 822 Mosques facing Petra and not Meka, why it is impossible for Meka to be part of the narrative of Islam!
WOW! TNANK YOU FOR SHARING.
@@jejewa2763 Honestly? I think Muhammad himself was a failed doomsday prophet. He told everyone he'd rise after three days. Instead, dogs came in and ate part of his body. It seemed better to forget parts of what he taught. Grab the black stone, bring it to the much more important city of Petra, and bow toward it.
@@toomanymarys7355 Mohamad was never a prophet. He was used by people to gain power.
(بِئْسَمَا اشْتَرَوْا بِهِ أَنفُسَهُمْ أَن يَكْفُرُوا بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ بَغْيًا أَن يُنَزِّلَ اللَّهُ مِن فَضْلِهِ عَلَىٰ مَن يَشَاءُ مِنْ عِبَادِهِ ۖ فَبَاءُوا بِغَضَبٍ عَلَىٰ غَضَبٍ ۚ وَلِلْكَافِرِينَ عَذَابٌ مُّهِينٌ )
I studied and lived in Iran in the middle east. In Iran the official language of the country is persian language. Persian letters are identical to arabic letters, with some different signs.
AS YOU KNOW PERSIAN LAUNGAGE CAN YOU HELP ME OUT THE MEANING OF #NAMAZ IN PERSION OWN LAUNGAGE???
The quran is not from the GOD JEHOVAH.
REVELATION 22:18-19;
GALATIANS 1:6-9;
2 CORINTHIANS 11:4.
FAFA-two reasons. 1. They were the source of the Moloch cult. 2. They had interbred with demons. That’s in the Bible.
Islam is the truth stop hating
If Quran is not from god why is Islam the fastest growing religion
@@mosaleh9310 NO ITS CORRUPT ADDMIT THAT
@@mosaleh9310 TTHE NUMBER OF EX MUSLIMS ARE INCREASING U IDIOT
“Seeking Allah Finding Jesus” points to different versions of the Quaran too.
There is only one version of Quraan unlike various gospels written in greek when jesus spoke aramaic....
The Quraan was revealed and originally written without the vowels, this was added later for non arabic readers especially. So "arabic variations" exist due to this, but there is only 1 Quraan.
explore-islam.com/are-there-different-versions-of-quran/
Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 2:
اللَّهُ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا هُوَ الْحَيُّ الْقَيُّومُ
Allah, (there is) no god but He, the Everliving, the Self-subsisting by Whom all things subsist
Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 3:
نَزَّلَ عَلَيْكَ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا بَيْنَ يَدَيْهِ وَأَنزَلَ التَّوْرَاةَ وَالْإِنجِيلَ
He has revealed to you the Book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and He revealed the Taurat (scripture of moses) and the Injeel (scripture of jesus) aforetime.
Surah Aal-e-Imran, Verse 4:
مِن قَبْلُ هُدًى لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَنزَلَ الْفُرْقَانَ إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بِآيَاتِ اللَّهِ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ شَدِيدٌ وَاللَّهُ عَزِيزٌ ذُو انتِقَامٍ
Aforetime, as a guidance to mankind, and it is He who has bestowed the standard by which to discern the true from the false. Surely they who disbelieve in the communications of Allah they shall have a severe chastisement; and Allah is Mighty, the Lord of retribution.
via iQuran
shahid so you believe that one version has always been the case and you are free to believe as you please, consider another point of view, www.nabeelqureshi.com/seeking-allah-finding-jesus. Different versions say at least to me that I need to find the earliest texts possible. Research, research, research because most people go according to the herd, the herd won’t think. The herd depends on confirmation bias. I have been taken the Bible as is only, but I also consider its critics, but are you allowed to do this with the Quran?
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Variations in Arabic Quraan only differ in vowels and meanings do not change overall. These variations in reciting were authorised by the prophet. But there is only 1 Quraan. Coming to the Gospels, scholars know the truth of varying manuscripts and lost gospels. All in greek when the language of the messiah was aramaic. Even hebrew bible scholars need to study arabic to learn their own scriptures fully....
Dr. Gary Miller explains how Muslims follow Jesus better than the Christians;
czcams.com/video/wc-xJ42rBgw/video.html
1. Jesus taught that there is only One God and Only God should be worshipped as taught in Deut 6:4, Mark 12:29.
Muslims also believe this as taught in the Qur’an verse 4:171.
2. Jesus didn’t eat pork as taught in Leviticus 11:7, and neither do Muslims as taught in the Qur’an verse 6:145.
3. Jesus greeted with the words “as salaamualaikum” (Peace be with you) in John 20:21. Muslims also greet each other this way.
4. Jesus always said “God Willing” (inshallah), Muslims say this too before doing anything as taught in the Qur’an verses 18:23-24.
5. Jesus washed his face, hands, and feet before praying. The Muslims do the same.
6. Jesus and other prophets of the Bible offerd prayer with their head to the ground (see Matthew 26:39). Muslims do too as taught in the Qur’an verse 3:43.
7. Jesus had beard and wore a throbe. It is Sunnah for Muslim men to do the same.
8. Jesus followed the law and believed in all the prophets, (see Matthew 5:17). Muslims do too as taught in the Qur’an
verses 3:84, and 2:285.
9. Jesus’ mother Maryam dressed modestly by fully covering her body and wearing a headscarf (hijab) as found in 1 Timothy 2:9, Genesis 24:64-65, and Corinthians 11:6. Muslim women modestly dress the same as taught in the Qur’an verse 33:59.
10. Jesus and other prophets of the Bible fasting up to 40 days (see Exodus 34:28, Daniel 10:2-6, Kings 19:8, and Matthew 4:1- Muslims do so also during the month of Ramadan. Muslims are required to fast the full obligatory 30 days (see Qur’an 2:183), and others take it a step further by fasting an additional 6 days to increase their rewards.
11. Jesus taught to say “Peace to this house” when entering it (see Luke 10:5), and to also greet the people in the house with “peace be unto you”. Muslims do exactly what Jesus did and taught. When we enter our homes and the homes of others we say “Bismillah” and also greet with "as salaamu alaikum” (peace be upon you) as taught in the Qur’an verse 24:61.
12. Jesus was circumcised. Circumcision is 1 of the 5 fitrah in Islam, so Muslim men are required to be circumcised. According to the Bible in Luke 2:21, Jesus was eight days old when he was circumcised. In the Torah, Allah/God stated to the Prophet Abraham that it is an “Everlasting covenant” (see Genesis 17:13). In the Qur’an verse 16:123 Muslims are required to follow the religion of Abraham. The Prophet Muhammad said, “The Prophet Abraham circumcised himself when he was eighty years old.”
13. Jesus spoke aramaic and called God ”Elah”, which is pronounced the same as “Allah”. Aramaic is an ancient, Biblical language. It is one of the Semitic languages that also include Hebrew, Arabic, Ethiopic and the ancient Assyrian and Babylonian language of Akkadian.
The Aramaic ”Elah” and the Arabic “Allah” are the same.
The Aramaic “Elah” is derived from the Arabic “Allah”, and it means “GOD”. “Allah” in Arabic also means ”GOD”, the Supreme GOD Almighty. You can easily see the similarity in their pronunciation so this concludes that the God of Jesus is also the God of the Muslims, of all mankind, and all that exist.
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One of the many problems i have with the bibles is the way they negatively protray the prophets and men of God, some as drunkards others as adulterators and murders. The quraan holds the previous prophets in high esteem and as examples to mankind. Just watch the below video;
Prophets in Bible v Quraan;
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Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 79:
فَوَيْلٌ لِّلَّذِينَ يَكْتُبُونَ الْكِتَابَ بِأَيْدِيهِمْ ثُمَّ يَقُولُونَ هَٰذَا مِنْ عِندِ اللَّهِ لِيَشْتَرُوا بِهِ ثَمَنًا قَلِيلًا فَوَيْلٌ لَّهُم مِّمَّا كَتَبَتْ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَوَيْلٌ لَّهُم مِّمَّا يَكْسِبُونَ
Woe, then, to those who write the book with their hands and then say: This is from Allah, so that they may take for it a small price; therefore woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.
via iQuran
Jeremiah 8;8
“‘How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the lawof the Lord,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
How Bible Changed;
czcams.com/video/6xMo323BDvY/video.html
Contradictions in Old Testament by Dr. L. Brown;
czcams.com/video/t4FGrSiABhg/video.html
Surah Al-Hijr, Verse 9:
إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ
Surely We have revealed the Reminder (Quraan) and We will most surely be its guardian.
via iQuran
The entire Quran was memorized verbatim (word for word) by many of the Prophet’s Companions (males and females). Among them were Zaid ibn Thabit, Ubayy ibn Ka’b, Muadh ibn Jabal, and Abu Zaid.
Abu Bakr decided to appoint Zaid ibn Thabit to compile all of the written verses of the Qur’an into one collection, using only those verses which had been written in the presence of the Prophet ﷺ himself. These manuscripts would then be verified by those who had memorised the entire Qur’an at the hands of the Prophet himself. This was where the important concept of tawatur, or multiply attested sources, came into play. In order to be 100% sure that a verse of the Quran was in fact a verse of the Quran, it needed to have multiple independent chains of transmissions from different memorisers of the Quran. In this way, any verse that came to Zaid could be corroborated through both written and oral means, essentially guaranteeing that every single verse put in the final book was conveyed by the Prophet ﷺ. Once this had been completed by Zaid, he penned the completed text which became known as the Suhuf, and gave it to Abu Bakr. This was now the official text of the Qur’an.
Narrated Ibn `Abbas: The Prophet (peace be upon him) was the most generous amongst the people, and he used to be more so in the month of Ramadan when Gabriel visited him, and Gabriel used to meet him on every night of Ramadan till the end of the month. The Prophet (peace be upon him) used to recite the Holy Qur'an to Gabriel, and when Gabriel met him, he used to be more generous than a fast wind (which causes rain and welfare).
(Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 30, Hadith 12)
No other religious scripture was compiled with such accuracy...
British don't say "pot ahh toe" 🤣 he's getting confused with "tom ahh toe"
Can you give me now to versions of the quran that are different?
Shias
OMG I was wrong, 31 different manuscripts . WOW
@Maester Auron the Quran is dishonest regardless of how many versions there are.
@Maester Auron I highly doubt the creator of everything would waste his time in mikromanaging the life of his followers. Dont you think God has better things to do then to introduce so many ridicilous followings which are simply outdated in the 21st century????
@Maester Auron You Don't know JESUS is the WORD of GOD,
this Proceeds from the mouth of GOD, and this WORD does not Return VOID to HIM
and this WORD does not Change
and HEAVEN and EARTH shall Passaway but MY WORD shall not Pass away this is the ETERNAL WORD of GOD
this is the WORD is LIFE
this is the WORD is LIGHT of the WORLD
this is the WORD if we Obey GOD Honours those who Obeys/Listen
GOD made the SEEN and UNSEEN by HIS WORD: the CREATOR
And this WORD was made FLESH and Dewlt among us this is JESUS the LORD of HEAVEN and EARTH
JESUS comes from the BOSOM of the FATHER (GOD) and JESUS sent SPIRIT of GOD the OMNIPRESENT and PRESENT with US till the END of the Age
@Maester Auron my friend the quran denies that Jesus was crucified.
But the quran teaches to believe in the gospel.
Surah 5:47.
Then why try to make changes to it.
That is just wrong.
Not a good sign.
@Maester Auron my friend if you can read a bible please read this.
Luke 1:1-35.
John 14:1-16.
John 16:1-15.
Mathew 8:28-34.
Isaiah 53:1-12.
Revelations 1:1-20.
Revelations 5:1-14.
My friend God bless you.
When you pulled up that graph at 11:57 I had to stop the view and litterally said "WOW". It clicked.
Fact: Without those dots you'd have 19 different possible meanings of those three characters. Those dots are *essential*
Fact: The earliest Qurans didn't had no dots.
Conclusion: It's not possible to know what the correct meaning of the Quran is. No exagerating. It's not possible. Game over. Mind blown.
To be fair there are hundreds of variant versions of the Christian Bible s none match each other or original koine Greek NT or the Hebrew Tanakh or the Dead sea scroll s..
Dr Bart Ehrman verifies
Thank you for the knowledge. May Allah guide us all.
(یُرِیدُونَ لِیُطۡفِـُٔوا۟ نُورَ ٱللَّهِ بِأَفۡوَ ٰهِهِمۡ وَٱللَّهُ مُتِمُّ نُورِهِۦ وَلَوۡ كَرِهَ ٱلۡكَـٰفِرُونَ)
[سورة الصف 8]
Matthew 24:11
fake prophet mohamet included
24% of Muslims who come to the West leave Islam.... so Allah is not holding the light for them.
Thank you honestly from the bottom of my heart for bringing the gospel to the muslim people. It is good to have and build this knowledge. Besides saudi arabia or Arab countries i also suggest you, that you discover, what was going on in islam in Iran. As a Christian i have seen that and lived that in Iran. You are going to discover shocking things.
But you forget that the frequency of transmission of the Noble Qur’an from generation to generation is a well-known matter; it is just as if we ask to prove the frequency of news of the existence of a country such as China for example. Every generation memorized the Qur’an and transmitted it verbally to the other generation. From the first revelation of our Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to this day, people do not disagree about it. The Ottoman Qur’an was not the first source, they were taken from the Companions of the prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
Yup. This is true. The technic of 'riwayah' and 'isnad' are special only to Islam. Muslims are not a bunch of people who only relied upon written paper or parchments only as the source of their religion.
What was role of 40+ "Katiben e wahi" Appointed by Mohmmad.
So are Jesus, Issa, Isiah, Jisu, Issah...different people?
JESUS SAID: If You know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall set You FREE
TRUTH is the WORD of GOD
JESUS said I AM the TRUTH
JESUS (PBUH) Said, "When the Comforter, the Holy Spirit has Come - the Spirit of Truth, he will Teach you All Things"
John 16:13, Gospel
[And thus,] when he, the Spirit of Truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth, for he will not speak from himself; but whatever he will hear, [that] he will speak, and he will show you things to come."
Jesus said dont call me good .
The one who is good is god
God bless you both sir al fadi and jay
May Allah Curse you. MAY THE ANGELES CURSE YOU AND ALL OF MANKIND CURSE YOU TOGETHER YAH KELB FADI AND JAY.
what you dont realize(or what you are lying while knowing abouT) is that that is the type of writting that was before the ottoman writtings as in no points and chakle(sound a or o). but when the ottoman was made the points and stuff were added in a time when they understood the language without points because they had high level of arabic which exactly made God send a miracle luinguisticly like moses doing magic type of miracle in the time of magic in egypt.but the ottoman writting one is the quran we have now based on multiple ones without points and people memorizing the quran which is an easy task as God made it just look there is millions of poeple memorizing the whole book word by word so no change was made and the quran is a luinguitic miracle with a type of writting made just for it.
Its a shame thats been proved false several times.
They didn't burn them with the others, thats why!
It's always hardest when someone asks you to explain your native language "Oi vey"
Both excellent men of GOD !
Don't be fooled. Those two are not even muslims. They're trying to find fault in the Quran. Your being deceived
Unless your in on it too
@@bramjam2314 ,
so, you cannot be deceived ?🦄
@@juerbert1 no. Thank Allah
Great. Keep it up
To dismiss the actual variations in the many different variant Arabic Quran does not hold any water whatsoever. They are now at least 27 different Arabic Quran. In my part of the word, in China with a population estimated to be about one billion four hundred million people, there are at least eight major dialect groups and many sub-dialects. Some examples of major dialect groups are Cantonese, Khek, Hakka, Min (Hokkien), Xiang .... and they sound completely different like totally different languages. Then, there are the enormous variety of sub-dialects within the major dialect groups that sound quite similar but are still very distinct and different. Yet the written text in standardized Chinese pictogram characters for millennia are the same and do not have any confusing variants or variations (at most only very minor). A written or printed book in Chinese can be read and understood by virtually everyone across China. The actual problem is the variants in the underlying Arabic text, whether in raw consonant form or with the diacritical dots and vowel marks ... which can change the tense, the case (plural or singular) and even the meaning. There are not merely a few hundred but thousands of variants and more are being discovered and documented as time goes by. If the Quran is really God's own word as claimed, it must be held to a very high standard ... and can withstand honest scrutiny ... not simply dismissed offhand angrily.
Fifty shades of a holey book 📚
Lord is working through you guys. Bless you both ✊❤️
Jesus is Lord✝️
Jamal K This is what you need to know czcams.com/video/i-lpjvexeuk/video.html
Where did Jesus ever say I AM LORD WORSHIP ME in the Bible? Show me!
F.A F.A Show me who was witnesses of Mohammed?
F.A F.A
Allah is Satan and Mohammed was his messenger.
Mohammed was a lier fake delusional demons possessed big time sinner man.
Mohammed was all about money, power, and sex.
He is burning in hell.
Islam is dying. Ex Muslims on the rise. I’m one of them.
Watch this video czcams.com/video/_-pYPWc26Gk/video.html
Uwoooowwww..... Great news for indonesia
Wahh.. ada org dari sini. Indo dari mana
Oiii tohir? Ex muslim jugak
Here the question. Doesn Bukari note that when Uthman had the Quran retranslated into Arabic he stated that if the translators disagree on a word or anything regarding the Quran to translated it in the Qureshi dialect? I have been looking for the orignal Quran that was revealed by muhammad. What bothered me was that Muhammad did not speak Arabic. He spoke in the language of the Nabatean Christians which was ARamaic . So they retranslated the Quran from its original Aramaic language into the Arabic language. The point? Since the Quran could be recited 7 different ways per reciter and he said this to his companion when he was alive and he spoke Aramaic, what was the 7 dialects of Aramaic and which one did they choose to translate from. Aramaic is not Arabic, it is not even modern Arablic. When a Muslim tells me that the Quran was revealed in Arabic I quickly correct them and say that Muhammad never spoke a word of Arabic. What you have is someone's translation of an Aramaic Quran. There is no record of the Aramaic Qurans because Uthman had them confiscated and destroyed, in the name of preserving the unity of the Umma. In reality He highjacked the Quran and spread his Quran all over the Islamic empire. When Uthman was assassinated? His Quran was destroyed and all copies of it. So we don't even have one complete Uthmanic Quran. So how do they know what they are reciting is what Muhammed really say? There is no way of them knowing. All they can fall on is the chain of narrators . But that is not even reliable because no chain of narration can be reliabily traced to Muhammed. .
…where did you get that the prophet didn’t speak Arabic?
"If mankind and the jinn gathered in order to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like of it, even if they were to each other assistants."
Mankind wouldn't bother with such arrant nonsense as producing the quran, because it's the worst book ever plagiarized and of course the jinn will consent to producing such foolishness because there are Scions of Satan and of course enjoy deception.
Kindly put up just one verse in the quran that makes it exquisite. The stories in the quran are not sequencial and it takes so much energy to read. Even the Hadith makes a better reading than the quran.
Look at word symmetry in the holy quran. Blew me away when i saw it..
@@allahisthegreatest6302 My friend, Don't reply him because he doesn't speak politely and insults Allah and prophet Muhammad PBUH
@@asmaaeldeeb4225 ok bro thank u
@@asmaaeldeeb4225the holy Quran
Al hayat” (life), 145 times; “al mawt” (death), 145 times“al-dunya” (mundane life), 115 times; “al akhira” (the afterlife), 115 times“malaika” (angels), 88 times; “shayatin” (demons), 88 times“ar rajul (man), 24 times; “al mar’a (woman), 24 times“as salihat (good deeds), 167 times; “as sayya’at” (wrong doings), 167 times“qul” (say), 332 times; “qalu” (said), 332 times“an nas” (people), 50 times; “an nabiya” (prophets), 50 times“al muslimat” (Muslim women), 41 times; “al muslimin” (Muslim men), 41 times"yawma-izhin" (That day), 70 times; "qiyama" (Judgment day), 70 times"dunya" (near), 115 times; "akhira" (far), 115 times"shitaa" (winter), 1 time; "sayf" (summer), 1 time"Isa" (Yahushua), 25 times; "Adam", 25 times
Iblis the devil is mentioned 11 times and seek refuge from iblis the devil is mentioned 11 times.
Belief and disbelief 17 times
Clay (teen and sperm (nutufa
112 times (how ALLAH says he made us)
Charity (zakat and blessings (baraka same amount of times.
The words "Sea" and "Land" are used 32 and 13 times respectively in the Quran. 32 plus 13 equals 45, and the two words make up 71.1 and 28.9 percent respectively of those 45. These percentages roughly correspond to what we today know the proportion of the Earth's surface made up of water and land to be."Human being" is used 65 times: the sum of the number of references to the stages of man's creation is the same:
al-Fatihah in itself has 7 verses, 3.5 dedicated towards our praise of the Omnipotent, and the next 3.5 dedicated towards our prayers to the Omnipotent.The words “salawat” (prayers) and "aqimis-salah" (establish prayer) are mentioned 5 times in the Quran, the same as the number of mandatory daily prayers.The word "alwan" (colors) is written 7 times, the same as the number of colors of the rainbow.The words "samawat" + "sab" (heavens + seven) are written together 7 times, the same as the number of heavens described in the Quran.There are 365 days in a year. The word "yawm" (day in singular) is written exactly 365 times.
Months written 12 times
Muslims circumambulate around the Qibla, seven times during pilgrimage. The word ‘Qibla’ is used in the whole Quran exactly seven times: 2:142:8, 2:143:15, 2:144:8, 2:145:10, 2:145:14, 2:145:18, and 10:87:12"
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetry_in_the_Quran&ved=2ahUKEwjC8KWIgbjxAhULQEEAHThcBFwQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw0fvhfLuAaW4M9JHqnXti5h&cshid=1624803774708
Get me any arabic text without dots and I will read it for you.
Recite the wrong Koran - earns no merit
Recite wrongly - earns no merit
How to earn Allah's favor???
Huge problem my Muslim friends!
U can read even from blank pages
Because u r a talking parrot
@@Rising_Star922 Hi bro Koran 1/2
Do not deceive your own self
Don’t be blind to your own self
Muslims believe that the Koran in their hands is perfect and is the same as the one in Paradise
Qur'an was revealed in the dialect of Quraish - it has to be writted as such!
BUT there are so many Korans - which one? Recite the wrong one counts for nothing my friend…all efforts wasted as it is not the Word of Allah.
33 Different versions of the Arabic Korans - which one?
• 1.Qaloon 2. Al-Susi (Ibn Katheer) 3. Khallad 4. Idrees 5. Warsh 6. Hafs Ad-Duri (Abu Amro alBasri) 7. Al-Laith 8. al-Bazzi 9. Al-Azraq 10. As-Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) 11. Ad-Duri (alKisa’i) 12. Ibn Shanboodh 13. Al-Asbahaani 14. Hisham 15. Isa BinWardan 16. Sulayman 17. al-Bazzi 18. Ibn Dhakwan 19. Ibn Jammaz 20. Ahmad bin Farah 21. Qunbul 22. Showba 23. Ruwais 24. Shujaa’ bin Abi Nasr Al-Balakhi 25. Abu Amro Al-Ala 26. Hafs 27. Ruh 28. Al-Duri (alHasan alBasri) 29. Hafs Al-Duri (Ibn Katheer) 30. Khalf 31. Ishaq 32. Al-Hasan bin Said Al-Matuu’i33. Abu Farah Al-Shan-budhi
• The predominant reading today, spread by Egyptian Quran readers, is that of Asim in the transmission of Hafs (d. 190/805). In Morocco, the reading is that of Nafi` in the transmission of Warsh (d. 197/812) and the Moroccan Qurans are written accordingly. In Sudan, Nigeria and Central Africa, the prevailing reading is that of Abu `Amr in the version of al-Duri. The transmissions of Hafs, Warsh, Qalun and Al-Duri are still in print today.
• There are 7 Hafs - which one?
1936 - The government of Egypt realized how efficient the Cairene model was and decided to make Hafs standard for all Qur’ans in Egyptian schools
This was known as the ‘Faruq Edition’, named after King Faruq, who came to power that year.
1985 - The government of Saudi Arabia realized how efficient the Egyptian model was and decided to make Hafs standard for all Qur’ans worldwide
This was known as the ‘Fahd Edition’, named after King Fahd, who came to power in 1982. Both are man’s expediency.
• The Qira’at Qur’ans had nothing to do with any original Mushafs, but had everything to do with recitations czcams.com/video/iHkiuzrwvnU/video.html
Different readings - so how? Which Koran?
surah 5:54 (yartadda) surah 5:54 (yartadid)
surah 91:15 (wa la yakhaafu) surah 91:15 (fa la yakhaafu)
surah 3:133 (wasaari'uu) surah 3:133 (saari'uu)
surah 2:132 (wawassaa) surah 2:132 (wa'awsaa)
surah 2:140 (taquluna) surah 2:140 (yaquluna)
surah 2:259 (nunshizuhaa) surah 2:259 (nunshiruhaa)
surah 3:81 (ataytukum) surah 3:81 (ataynakum)
surah 2:132 (himu) surah 2:132 (hiimu)
surah 2:214 (yaquula) surah 2:214 (yaquulu) submission.org/verify_are_all_Arabic_versions_of_Quran_the_same.html
FABRICATIONS by Muhammad -We wonder what other fabrications are not taken out??? And what other Satanic verses???
Eager to be accepted as a prophet in his native Mecca, Muhammad initially conceded that Allah approved of Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Al-Manat. But unable to reconcile three extra goddesses with his declared monotheism, Muhammad later reversed himself, confessing, "I have fabricated things against Allah and have imputed to him words which he has not spoken." (Al Tabari, The History of Al-Tabari, vol. 6, p.111) and said he had mistaken the words of "Satan" (Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah, pp.165-166) as Allah's. www.billionbibles.org/sharia/muhammad-false-prophet.html
Man’s word became Word of Allah
Sahih Bukhari 6:60:313 Narrated Umar: I said, "O Allah's Apostle! Good and bad persons enter upon you, so I suggest that you order the mothers of the Believers (i.e. your wives) to observe veils."
Then Allah revealed the Verses of Al-Hijab.
Missing Koran - what else did the goat eat?
[Narrated 'Aisha] "The verse of the stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the messenger of Allah expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper."
Musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal. vol. 6. p. 269; Sunan Ibn Majah, p. 626; Ibn Qutaybah, Tawil Mukhtalafi 'l-Hadith (Cairo: Maktaba al-Kulliyat al-Azhariyya. 1966) p. 310; As-Suyuti, ad-Durru 'l-Manthur, vol. 2. p. 13
Prophet was bewitched - means under the control of Satan
Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 400: Narrated by Aisha :
Once the Prophet was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.
Satan inputs into Koran
S22:52 Sahih International
And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding]. But Allah abolishes that which Satan throws in; then Allah makes precise His verses. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.
53 [That is] so He may make what Satan throws in a trial for those within whose hearts is disease and those hard of heart. And indeed, the wrongdoers are in extreme dissension.
• Satan will cause problem with recitations/inputs for the Koran
• Allah will accept them to the point of what Satan threw in
• Allah said He will abolish them v52 but in v53 Allah will use them and throws in a trial.
• This means they are still in the Koran.
• But Allah never state categorically which verses are corrected
• You will forever be in doubt.
• v53 Allah is saying he will take what Satan threw in the mouth of Muhd as Koran!
• Muhd himself was reciting the Koran of Satan!
• Satan’s Koran is equivalent to Allah’s
• Muslims must recite them to earn merits!!! Compounding the problem.
@@Rising_Star922 Hi bro Koran 2/2
Do not deceive your own self
Forgotten verses - what others are not recalled???
Sahih Bukhari 6, Book 61, Number 558 : Narrated by Aisha
Allah's Apostle heard a man reciting the Qur'an at night, and said, "May Allah bestow His Mercy on him, as he has reminded me of such-and-such Verses of such-and-such Suras, which I was caused to forget."
Qur'an was revealed in the dialect of Quraish - what versions you have?
Sahih Bukhari: Volume 6, Book 61, Number 510: Narrated by Anas bin Malik
'Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Qur'an, then write it in the dialect of Quraish, the Qur'an was revealed in their tongue."
Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha
This also mean all the revelations while married to Khadija are false/lies
Volume 3, Book 47, Number 755:
Narrated by 'Urwa from 'Aisha... They said to her, "Talk to him till he gives you a reply." When it was her turn, she talked to him again. He then said to her, "Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds (dress) except that of Aisha." On that Um Salama said, "I repent to Allah for hurting you." …
A huge portion of quran no one understands except Allah - what is the purpose? not even Muhammad!
S 3:7 Pickthall: He it is Who hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture wherein are clear revelations - they are the substance of the Book - and others (which are) allegorical. But those in whose hearts is doubt pursue, forsooth, that which is allegorical seeking (to cause) dissension by seeking to explain it.
None knoweth its explanation save Allah. And those who are of sound instruction say: We believe therein; the whole is from our Lord; but only men of understanding really heed.
Muslims required to read/recite
Sahih Bukhari Volume 001, Book 001, Hadith Number 003.
Narrated By 'Aisha: … The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read."
The Prophet added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.'
Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more.
He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, 'I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?'
Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, 'Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists) has created man from a clot. Read!
Surah 96:1
Muhsin Khan: Read! In the Name of your Lord, Who has created (all that exists),
Pickthall: Read: In the name of thy Lord Who createth,
Yusuf Ali: Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created-
Shakir: Read in the name of your Lord Who created.
Dr. Ghali: Read: In the Name of your Lord Who created,
Sahih International: Recite in the name of your Lord who created -
Surah: 96:3
Muhsin Khan: Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous,
Pickthall: Read: And thy Lord is the Most Bounteous,
Yusuf Ali: Proclaim! (or read!) And thy Lord is Most Bountiful,-
Shakir: Read and your Lord is Most Honorable,
Dr. Ghali:Read: And your Lord is The Most Honorable,
Sahih International: Recite, and your Lord is the most Generous -
If it is in other Arabic, it is man’s discretion and NOT the Word of Allah!!!
Totally useless.
If you insist, then good luck to you.
You see the differences? So, what now?
• Muslims required to read/recite
• Read/Recite wrong Koran scores no merit.
• Read/Recite wrongly scores no merit.
• Wrong pronunciation scores no merit
• Fabrications
• Missing Koran - what else did the goat eat? Missed chance!
• Prophet was bewitched - means under the control of Satan
• Man’s word became Word of Allah
• Satan inputs into Koran
• Recite the Satanic verses
• It has to be in the dialect of Quraish as revealed, otherwise it is man’s discretion not Allah’s.
• Divine Inspirations do not come to me on any of the beds except that of Aisha This also mean all the revelations while married to Khadija are false/lies
• Forgotten verses - what others are not recalled???
• A huge portion of quran no one understands except allah
• It has to be perfect as Koran is allegedly perfect.
HUGE problems. So Many Holes
Jesus loves and wants to save you and your family
Make sure you and your family don’t’ spend eternity in Hell with Satan
We only have this one life to make sure.
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@@Rising_Star922 hi bro Rising Star Faisal
DEFEND YOUR ALLAH
ALLAH (HIM/HIS - BIG CAP) DOES NOT LIKE TO HAVE FEMALE CHILDREN - ALLAH HAS 3 DAUGHTERS
1. Allah complains that it is unfair for Himself to have only daughters and no son.
2. Complains that it is unfair for the Arabs to have sons.
3. Complains that the Arabs are more blessed than Himself.
53:19 - 22 Sahih International
So have you considered al-Lat and al-'Uzza?
And Manat, the third - the other one?
Is the male for you and for Him the female?
That, then, is an unjust division.
53:19 - 22 Yusuf Ali
Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza,
And another, the third (goddess), Manat?
What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female?
Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair!
53:19 - 22 Pickthall
Have ye thought upon Al-Lat and Al-'Uzza
And Manat, the third, the other?
Are yours the males and His the females?
That indeed were an unfair division!
ALLAH HAS ONLY 1 LEG (SHIN - SINGULAR)
Surah 68:42 Sahih International
The Day the shin will be uncovered and they are invited to prostration but the disbelievers will not be able,
ALLAH HAS 2 RIGHT HANDS - ONLY SATAN USES LEFT HAND AND ALLAH CANNOT HAVE LEFT HAND - see below also.
49The Book of the Etiquette of Judges
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands." sunnah.com/nasai/49/1
Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379 In-book reference : Book 49, Hadith 1 English translation : Vol. 6, Book 49, Hadith 5381
Q: I have heard a seeker of knowledge while speaking about Allah's Names and Attributes to have attributed to Allah (Glorified and Exalted be He) the description of having two Hands.
He also added the description: Both Hand sides of His are right.
What is meant by this statement? Please, provide evidence.
www.al-feqh.com/en/establishing-two-hands-for-allah
A: … For example, `Abdullah ibn `Amr ibn Al-`As (may Allah be pleased with both of them) is authentically reported to have reported the Prophet (peace be upon him) as saying: The just will be with Allah on pulpits of light on the right Hand of the Most Merciful (the Exalted and Glorified), and both His Hands are right - those who are just in their judgment and are fair with their families and those of whom they are in charge.
… Below is an explanation of the statement: Both Hand sides of His are right. It is reported by Al-Baghawy from Al-Khattaby (may Allah be merciful with both of them) that such an Attribute is included under Tawqif (a religious text and not personal opinion).
Therefore, we understand it in the literal sense without drawing any comparison stopping our minds where the Qur'an and authentically narrated Hadith stop them. Such is the belief of Ahl-ul-Sunnah wal-Jama`ah. Some scholars are of the view that "and both His Hands are right" means that they are equally meritorious even if one of them is called the left Hand as stated in the Hadith recorded on the authority of Ibn `Umar in Sahih Muslim
SATAN EATS WITH LEFT HAND SO DO NOT EAT WITH YOUR LEFT HAND - left-handed people you are in big trouble!
Sahih Muslim Book 023, Hadith Number 5007.
Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) having said: Do not eat with your left hand, for the Satan eats with his left hand.
ALLAH HAS A FACE
55:27 Sahih And there will remain the Face of your Lord, Owner of Majesty and Honor.
Yusuf Ali But will abide (for ever) the Face of thy Lord,- full of Majesty, Bounty and Honour.
Jesus loves and wants to save you and your family
Make sure you and your family don’t’ spend eternity in Hell with Satan
We only have this one life to make sure.
Please copy to somewhere permanent for your future reference as well.
Get people to comment, apparantly that's what drives Utube algorithm.
Tell the name of country where two different types of Qur'an being used. Cheaters can't.
@Deutschland Über Alles that's delusion. Qur'an is one which is used in two holy mosques, but enemies of Islam trying to deceive people. These people know that Islam is the truth they go against because it's hard for them to follow Islam. They are addicted to commit sins and want to be blameless.
@Deutschland Über Alles people finding fault in Qur'an, using corrupt scriptures as intact word of God. What do you think about your's
Despite claims of variants until today there is only one Quran in use. Quran was revealed without manuscript or text.
You know nothing about the quran or its compilation. You do realise that there was even a war between muslims because they had different qurans. Both sides claimed that they had the correct recitation! After Uthman was victorious he had the other sides qurans burned!!! What if that was the rel quran? What if that quran had sayings in it that was from Mohammed? Anyway.... There are over 30 Arabic qurans in use and there are thousands upon thousands of textual variants. So, you have to ask yourself this question! Is Allah so weak and powerless that he can not even keep his promise to guard the quran? Or was the author of the quran a false prophet who lied when he said that Allah will protect it? Pick your poison kid.
@@thezealouschristian9759 i am still waiting for different versions of quran and see if muslims accept them. Awaiting... here
@@thezealouschristian9759 The last twelve verses of the gospel of Mark represent a very big problem for theologians and textual critics. This is because there is a profound DISJUNCTION between these verses and the preceeding text. There is a consensus view among many scholars that this longer ending IS NOT ORIGINAL, BUT WAS ADDED AT SOME LATER TIME TO FILL AN APPARENT GAP. (Page 196)
...... Not only that, but the earliest witnesses to the last part of Mark, Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanicus, lack these 12 verses entirely as indeed do a number of other later sources. .... The ommisions in Sinaiticus and Vaticanicus, far from telling us nothing, do in fact speak volumes. (Book: the invention of jesus, Peter Cresswell, 2013)
Ex Muslim. Thanks Smith and Fsdi.
INTERESTING !
idiot do u have idea what these fools talking about they are misinterpreting Qirat with ahruf
first learn about Ahruf and Qirat from Qari then try to understand what it is , Quran is only one but it revealed in 7 dialect
@@ssjeelani398 wake up my friend. your religious teachers lied to you! traditional islamic doctrine will not survive the information age! enjoy!
@@bplhtlkkrzlf hahahha lol u will wake up in hell bro
@@ssjeelani398 And you wil get 72 virgin hookers and young virgin boy slaves who are like Pearls in islamic orgy paradise??
Open your eyes. Never before in history so many muslims left islam, never before in history so many muslims became either Christian, atheist, agnost or whatever. Traditional islam doctrine will not survive information age!
Wishing you all the best. Stay long enough here on CZcams, talk with people wth different ideas. If you do that, eventually you will leave islam to. Then you are no longer a slave.
RaSM also means line
Adding in vowels and diacritical marks is about helping non Arabs read the Quran as they dont have the same familiarity with the language as the natives. The oldest Quran that was discovered is in a museum in Birmingham UK and it was found to be the same as the ones we have today. It is part of the faith to preserve it, muslims believe in it so why would they change it? Any changes of script to allow access for non Arabs has not altered the meaning which is what we should be concerned with. You can see this by comparing different versions of tafsir over the 1400 years we have had the Quran.