Suspicious! Over 30 different Qur’ans formed in the 8th century? - Qira'at Conundrum - Episode 9
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- A lot of claims were made in the 7th century Qur’ans - but NONE of those Qur’ans exist any longer.
At least 30 different Qur’ans were formed during the 8th, 9th and 10th centuries!
The whole narrative gets very suspicious. Dr. Jay and Al Fadi share all the details in this video.
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AlFadi and Jay Smith, I’m proud of myChristian faith.Continue the great work to investigate the historical truth about Islam, the Quran and Mohammed. Help fellow Muslims to turn to Christ.God Bless them who know not.
"There are holes in the standard narrative"
I even named one of my playlists after that all time classic statement. Yasir Qadhi did more damage to Islam than Christian Prince, David Wood, Jay Smith, and the apostate prophet combined. 🤣🤣
@@user-vw1qn1er1l So true! The Holy Spirit must have guided him!
非常多！
@@user-vw1qn1er1l It was really Mohammed Hijab that did it. This interview along with the quote "Allah prays FOOOOOR Muhammad"
Show up the problems with the Qur'an and the whole philosophy of Islam. Who is Allah praying to? If he's praying to the real God his prayers are not going to be answered.
@@oprophetisfake9482 I agree, or let's just say that Muhammad Hijab and Yasir Quadi made a really good team. We can use more good men like them. 🤣🤣🤣 It is funny how Muslims used the "Who was Jesus praying to?" argument for years and that got turned around on them. Here is a good question for Muslims I thought you might like; "Can 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1............
equal one? There are several different Arabic Qurans, but according to Muslims, they equal one perfectly preserved Quran."
Al Fadi, we need to know the truth about Islam. You are the true source. GBU🙏
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@@mahmoudsbeih8614 stop posting ridiculous videos of braindead Yousef Estes... the guy is an idiot showman with zero intelligence. Why don't you get him to talk to people who actually know the deception of Islam.
@@thomaspaul5989 look at these two. Trying to bring people away from the correct path and into polytheism
@@eaf-target-xx2745 polytheism is when you bow down before an idol cube and kiss a black pagan stone... you are deceived.
@@thomaspaul5989 actually that black “pagan stone” isnt something that we worship. That black “pagan” stone is supposed to be a piece of paradise its self, im sure your wanna be scholars on this channel will discuss that at some point. Polytheism is believing in more than one god (such as the trinity) because no matter how you cut the pie, 3 individual things can never equal 1. As for idol worship, dont get me started on the cross. Talk about taking idols
This is important. The Egyptian standardised version was made 1904, and they also destroyed all the different Quran manuscripts to hide up the truth, the same did Uthman, he burned those texts that contradicted his version, but his version doesn’t exist. So, what do we have, the Haf’s Quran, a pupil who was called liar by his fellow Muslims.
1924. In 1985 it became avalible for the world outside of Egypt.
That still doesn't aid your case, since 1+1+1≠1 because at least one of them used to use toilet? you can also ask any jew about they reality of Jesus, he was one of them, they knew him better than anyone else.
@@rafidhussein80 otootootootooo... if they knew Him, they would not kill Him but worship Him..
@@rafidhussein80 it is not 1 +1+1 because God is not a math question. A better comparison would be water in its different states, solid liquid or gas. The same essence just in different states (forms) or roles; I am a father to my son. I can also be a son to my father. What is wrong with that?
we need more organizations like this to educate some chriatians to be a firm to our belief and not easily converted to other religions
Yes lets see how firm you are and know Religion;
Mark 14:62
" Son of man sitting on the right hand side of The Mighty One"
Who is this Son of man sitting on right hand side of The Mighty One ?
Who is this The Mighty One ?
@@abbasbeig3943 please dont force yout islamic religion to us we dont need it. thanks
@@jpadsjpads9397
Peace be with you and your family;
As per Religious teaching there is no compulsion in Religion , it is between person and God. Every person has to answer to God Almighty on the Day of Judgment, not you, to me, or any one else.
All Prophets will be there too.
I am just sharing references from Scriptures, we need to consider for our decisions.
John 5:30( Jesus said)
I do nothing by my own will but by the will of who sent me"
Who sent Jesus ?
Satan, no.
God Almighty sent Jesus, and Jesus clearly said that Jesus submitted his own will to the will of God Almighty.
This is simple and basic definition of Islam, and person who submits own will to the will of God Almighty, is called Muslim.
No one founded Islam, not even Prophet Mohammed (pbuh).
Bless you.
@@abbasbeig3943 i dont care about your relogion just leave other relogion alone specially christianity
@@abbasbeig3943 Son of Man is Jesus. He used that as s reference to himself, and others had used it in the past, such as Samson.
The Mighty One is Yahweh.
Can 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1............
equal one? There are several different Arabic Qurans, but according to Muslims, they equal one perfectly preserved Quran.
Al Ham Dulillah !
All ham to allah
@JAI BHAVANI JAI SHIVAJI Marshmallows bruddah ameen
Did you believed that God can do everything he went yes I know you do believe as Muslim. My question is this why is this is so hard for you to believe that 3 in 1 why?
God the farther God the son God the holy spirit remember two of them came from the farther simple to understand
Abd al Malik started Islam? That's VERY interesting!
*Mbarikiwe sana. All the way from TANZANIA.May you all stay blessed 🙏*
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Only 23 minutes will you witness the truth of Christ, trust your mind, and it will lead you to the truth
@@mahmoudsbeih8614 Christ is in us. 23 mins is nothing compared to the eternity we are going to have with him.
@@EAD1142 Dear brother, I am from Jerusalem, a Muslim. Your problem is that you do not read. You all memorize one sentence. God sent his Son to die on the cross and atone for our sins. . There are sects that say he himself came down, incarnated, and crucified
@@EAD1142 This statement is wrong, not logical, and violates the Bible. The Creator can forgive without tormenting himself or sending his Son for our sins
My hat off to you brothers! Excellent information to strengthen the faith of Christians.
Pagans never be able to understand Quran, since this book is for God fearing people, not for Pagans, like so called Christians, and So called Hindus.
@Rishal Charles
Quran is way above your brain level.
Focus on your own Scripture, you are not worthy to talk about Quran.
Two thousand years ago our beloved Jesus said, I want to say more but you people are fools, so another comforter will come and he will speak, what God will tell him to speak, and that will b with you for ever.
But Jesus did not aware you are still fool.
People who are intelligent already received that Scripture and practicing.
You people are still Pagans, and practicing Idolatry .
I feel sorry.
Focus on your own men written Bible, and lets discuss God and Godhood according to your own so called Bible.
Again Quran is way above your mental level.
Ready to discuss God according to Bible.
Show some courage, if have a little bit.
Ready?
@Rishal Charles
Are you ready to discuss God and Godhood according to your own so called Bible?
I know Quran is way above your mental level.
That is the reason I never discuss Quran with ignorants like you.
Ready to discuss God and Godhood according to your so called man written Bible?
Come on show some courage.
@Rishal Charles
My dear that is tradition of you non Muslims, start cursing Holy people.
We Muslims always respect Holy Prophets.
In fact we Muslims are not Muslims if we disrespect any Prophet.
I love Oldest Testaments, Old Testament, New Testament, and Final Testament.
Never use abusive words for any of these.
I always request to discuss God, and God hood first.
That is Primary issue, without knowing True God Almighty, everything is useless to discuss.
Are you ready to discuss God according to your own Scriptures?
@Rishal Charles
Jesus ignorant means who who ignore Truth.
Fools, Jesus said himself,
John 16:12
" I have to say many things but you are not ready yet "
Jesus realized, people will not at level of understanding so giving more things will go astray.
I used word Fools to make it more effective to understand.
Now you reacted, that shows you got message.
Do you know Jesus did completely deliver what supposedly to be delivered.
The answer is No. He did not.
You want to continue?
If it was perfectly preserved, it would be in 1 book under 1 name.
According to the sources it would still be 7 different books without the diacritics. And people would still be putting in vowels and choosing between the consonants that looked alike and having lots of variant interpretations.
The more versions the more perfectly preserved! 😤🤯🥴
@@ifymonye896 I found a new excuse: they only disposed of individual faulty copies, and the "respectful" way is by fire.
I replied what about 1924 when the Nile was flooded with "disposed" Qurans? I get no reply...
@@el_killorcure Its great to have a timely reply!
@@colinpatterson728 Give them time, islamic circular logic and lack of self awareness allow limitless replies...
What we need is the Muslim cleric's/scholars/Immam's coming out openly and stating the Quran is NOT perfectly preserved as the traditions or the Quran say
It is perfectly preserved.
@@AmaRev Then how come mecca is not in a valley? Where is the zum zum well? why are there no olive tree's in mecca?
@@dudeduderinoduderino9689 Zamzam well!? What are you talking about?
@@AmaRev YOU ARE A VERY CONFUSED MUSLIM
@@GRM74 There is nothing to be confused about. One book, one message. God is one, and has no son. Tell us about the bibles: God is one, maybe God is two, maybe God. God has a son, maybe has no sons, or it has three sons.
The truth is easy to find, but sadly, most of you choose to swallow whatever nonsense these two guys are feeding you.
A Judge will listen to both sides of the story to get to the truth! All I see is a one sided conversation every day. Islam is Bad, christianity is good.
Thank you Bro. Al-Fadi and Bro. Jay Smith
Thank you! Can you do an episode where you open and read each sura to we can see and here the difference? That will be help a lot. Thanks alot
Hello from Slovenija. You are the best and I hope you are doing great work for God 😃🙏💞🔄🌏♾️💪👍
Well, I think you should not only look at Abd el Malik but also to the takeover of the Caliphate by the Abbasids in 749.
So Quran ultimately boils down to tomatoes and potatoes. 😆😂😆 happy tomatoes and potatoes, Dr. AlFadi and Dr. Jay. 🍅🍠
@@ifymonye896 are you a mullah?
Correct, the various Qurans are as different as tomatoes and patatoes. Makes me wonder why anyone still follows those books.
@Bj D How does the command of English change the fact that there are more than 30 different Arabic Qurans all produced in the 8th to 10th century.
By the way, tomatoes and potatoes good for stomach 😀
@Bj D true, so Quran can be summed up as a malware, corrupting human psychology and experience. It took a whole population back to stone age, literally. Interesting how the rest of us succeeded in life while this divine-book of lies kept 1.3 billion people suppressed.
To be honest: the existence of the variant readings obviously shows that the quran has not been perfectly preserved. However, it also is evidence that there is a true historic kernel of the historicy of islam. A later inventor would not have invented so many versions of the quran, including subreadings etc.
@Bj D sure
Thank you for this collective research of the history of Qur’an writings.
Maybe they can do a collective reading into the history of their religion some day, talk the differences in the bible
@@eaf-target-xx2745
At this point of all of this researches there are no doubths that the bible is the only word of God.
@@henrrypineda3130 theres no doubt the bivle has been changed by men, thats for sure
Made: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
If qu'rans began to appear with different vowelisations it suggests that at some time a text existed which did not have vowelisation - which in turn suggests that it was compiled before the system of vowelisations was introduced. So there must have been a 7th century text.
Great vid and facts. Thanks guys
“Beware of the scribes who like to walk in long robes, and love to be greeted in the streets and take the chief seats in the synagogues, and high places at banquets.”
Luke 20;46
You guys Rock, the mohammadites apologists should be really thinking about the Jesus
No thank you! We, Muslims, believe in the God that never dies and cannot be killed by any force; let along weak mortals.
Well he didn't die because he was made up by mohammed. Jesus died for the sin of the world. You can let earn it but must believe in jesus.
@@gavin604Are you saying Jesus' father is incapable of washing our sins without slaughtering innocent souls? In this case, I am happy worshipping my God that can wash my sins anytime he wants without making sacrifices.
@@AmaRev Sadly your God cannot wash away your sins. He makes you work towards salvation (to wash away your own sins). Unfortunately all the righteous deeds you do to clean yourself from your sins are just filthy rags.
Very well done except for the end of the presentation. That there are multiple Qurans and Musahaf does not prove that Christian ideology is true.
Yout intro song sounds like,"I Was Made For Lovin' You" by Kiss lol
Fadi love you bro♥️👍👍♥️hats off to Jay🙏👍🙏
I'm seeing peer review is taken place on CZcams and Islamic scholars are aggressively asking for ethical concerns of peer review. Its almost impossible to work with someone gas lighting. Text that dont match blow them away and they say they can't accept that even though its dated to such facts.
Thank you Jay and Al Fadi! God bless you!
God Bless both of you!!!
I cherish you dear brothers am getting powerful arsenal to tackle this monster.
Another strong in you bow can e found by looking at "how the Vatican created Islam" chick publications are mocked as misinformation.
Find the links on this but sharing that Information can be a challenge from those "fact checkers?" Who like to play God and delete your comments.
Even if you compare the hafs and the warsh texts side by you can see the verses have different meanings so how can they be preserved and unchanged when you can see the differences between them. The original quran would have had no diacritics or vowels so the words would have to be pronounced exactly the same so how do you get a dialectical difference? You can't it's not possible.
Please give me some What is the specific difference between the uthman's quraishi Koran and the other 30 different, whether the difference in the number of chapters or the difference in the number of verses.
in Indonesia we always talk about the Koran with the number of verses 6666 while the fact is that in the Koran the number of verses is only 6236 start from surah alfatihah until annas.
Big thumb up 👍both of you. God bless
Mark 14:62
" Son of man sitting on the right hand side of The Mighty One"
Who is this Son of man sitting on right hand side of The Mighty One ?
Who is this The Mighty One ?
The old refrain that it is easier to fool human beings than to convince them they have been fooled, is repeated ad infinitum.
Profoundly right. 👍
Can I copy-paste your quote please. 😂😆😂👍
There is a standard narrative in the holes
YES!!
@Manuel Delacroix Yes - A kind of Palindrome released/inspired by Dr. Yaser Quadi - Well at least the second half above!
Where can you buy a Warsh Quran?
The Reminder(114 Surats) informs us that there is a Tradition which claims to be an Apostolic Tradition but rejects circumcision while the Apostles were all circumcised, the Apostles didn't believe in Trinity, and prescribed a dietary Law in Acts 15:22-34 which the said Tradition rejects. It is not ironic!
On the basis of those clues we can say for sure that:
Qur'an is a codeword for Torah.
The Reminder is the 114 Surats
Islam means an Evangelical Party supposed to enforce the Torah as the Law of the land.
Muhammad euphemism for Messiah
Abu Quasim as an Arabian Evangelist who later became a Sovereign Ruler,
Legislator...and took up Muhammad as a reign name.
Unfortunately the "Muhammad" of the Palace and the "Mohammad" of the Shahada in the Mosque got blended together in the Tradition.
It's time to differentiate the Palace and the Mosque...under the Messianic title Mohammad.
I'm hoping and pray that all my good Muslim friends will also know the Lord Jesus Christ and receive grace and mercy from God.🙏💓
Who would want to believe in a God that can be crucified by weak mortals when the immortal God exists?
Who would want to believe in a God that killed an innocent soul to wash others' sins, when the real God washes our sins without killing innocents?
Who would to belive in a God than can be contained in a womb, when nothing can contain the real God?
Think about it!
@@AmaRev
I am amazed. How can Christians believe this pagan human sacrifice? If it were in the Quran, I would not be able to believe it. I do not know how Christians believe in the existence of Hell while at the same time believing the Roman Trinitarian myth of paganism
The problem is not Muslim know Jesus As the problem is the one fail to understand. Muhammad SAW the last prophet. When the school change the syllabus the exam is in the new book that in Quran. Accepting Islam and God Allah and book Quran that accepting that God will judge one with that book. In a God prophet hood there is no book called bible. The book of Moses is Torah and the book of Jesus is Injil. Should you find those book on it origin Allah say they will not be deferent from Quran because all prophets preached Islam.
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@@AmaRev - "Think about it!"
YEAH!!! I mean - Islam STARTED in arabia - and arabia has been Islamic since the beginning of Islam! That's WHY there is the complete, authenticated, original Uthman quran! And it is on animal skin that lasts for CENTURIES!!!
Show them!!! :-D
Of the Jews there are those who displace words from their (right) places, and say: "We hear and we disobey"; and "Hear what is not Heard"; and "Ra'ina"; with a twist of their tongues and a slander to Faith. If only they had said: "What hear and we obey"; and "Do hear"; and "Do look at us"; it would have been better for them, and more proper; but Allah hath cursed them for their Unbelief; and but few of them will believe.
"WHY AREN'T MUSLIMS TALKING ABOUT THHIS?" I keep mulling over this question again and again!!!
Good question 👍 I guess their afraid of the holes in the narrative 😀
@@agnettarodricks1301
Hahaha, go fools and believe these charlatans, for the Qur’an is preserved in the hearts of Muslims by hesitating from generation to generation until the Prophet Muhammad. These left their religion and went to attack Islam
8:49 the Muslim response to all of Dr. Jay's evidence.
@@osmanfarouk4697 yes since 1924
@@valerossi823
I do not know that there are fools (easy to deceive) of this degree like you. Al-Tabari and Ibn Katheer interpreted the Quran hundreds of years before this date🤪😜😂
8:49 the Muslim response to all of Dr. Jay's evidence.
Over 30 different Qur’ans were formed in the 8th century, where are they and bring the proof. What is wrong with the present Qu'ran?
Did you watch the video 😂? You are in denial like most Muslims
Tell this to zakir naik, he replied :Good question brother, then bla bla with his intelligent he said, ppl clap and he famous, india government still finding him now😅
Lets see in Oldest Testament Human know today;
Scriptures of Hind;
Yejurveda 32:3; “ Na Tasya Pratima Asti “Transklation =
“ There is No Image of Him (God)”
Lets see this portion of Gita ;
Chapter 7, Verse 20 ; God say “ Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures.”
Chapter 7, Verse 21 ; “I am in everyone's heart as the Supersoul. As soon as one desires to worship the demigods, I make his faith steady so that he can devote himself to some particular deity.”
God is our Creator, do not be creator of god of our imaginations and speculations.
From Ten Commandments;
"I am the Lord, thy God"
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me".
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image"
Where is the historical verification that Uthman had a Qur'an? I think Chevalie has made a good point.
Rewatched again ::: 👍
@ Ama11.Rev22.مغرب
1. Uthman didn't have a Quran...true, but HE complied together and HE wrote it? NOW what he didnt like he burnt?
2. The oldest manuscript of the Quran is in birmingham.... BE VERY CAREFUL with this as if it turns out to predate the birth of the so called prophet from 580-620 it will say this is Arab Nabataean and therefore pagan?
3. Perfectly preserved means, everything, is exactly the same. No deviation , no vowel difference etc. Yet at last count you muslims have 37 different korans? oototototo!
DudeDuderino
Uthman burnt only part of the Quran not authorised by the prophet of Islam,educate yourself before you come up with nonsense.
Not you or anyone has proved there is more than one version of the Quran.
@@farookdinaully8029 Uthman burnt ALL THOSE THAT HE DISAGREED WITH "read YOUR hadiths bro" [ 4 others ] of the Qurans sent to other cities not authorised by the false prophet of Islam because he did this after his death, poisoned by a Jewess wasn't it?.. Obviously you have not seen the other 37 and counting korans? I sincerely demand you to preach and follow your own counsel, educate yourself before you open your ignorant mouth and try and teach others as if you had any authority or knowledge.
@@dudeduderinoduderino9689
The never ending boring argument about Quran versions.
You want to prove there are more that one versions then this is what you have to do,Quran had 114 chapters,6236 verses,157935 words and 5277 non repeated showme at least two copies of the Quran on same Arabic language that are different.If you can I promise to stop believing in the Quran and if you can't then just shut the hell up and carry on with the worship of your satan man-god.
@@farookdinaully8029
Come to Jesus Christ and repent and he will forgive you if you are sincere and run away from your false prophet moohammad.ahahahahah..
------->WHICH Quran are you talking about? WHICH Quran had 114 chapters...which quran?
is it Ubai lbn ka'b with 116 chapters?
is it lbn Mas'ud with 111 chapters?
is it Ibn Musa with 114 chapters?
is it Zaid Ibn Thabit with 114 chapters?
WHEN YOU FIND OUT which version you speak off, let me know. ahahahha.
Which version are you WANTING TO QUOTE FROM?
Al Susi ?
Ibn Aamer ?
Ya"uub ?
Doori ?
Ibn Jamaz ?
Warsh? and the other 25 other versions -----------------------------------------------------> priceless. ootototottotot.
@@dudeduderinoduderino9689
You wrote "come to Jesus and repent and he will forgive you...."
In other words come to Jesus and he will save me.Right?
Jesus a human being, a man whom you believe is God save me?I am not a fool to believe in a God who is weak ,dumb,afraid of his enemies his own creations who could not defend and save himself.Why god of the Bible didn't save Jesus and punish the sinners?If god of the Bible didn't listen to the prayers of his son what hope do you have?
All the Quran are identical with 114 chapters,,6236 verses,157935 words and 5277 non repeated words and you cannot prove otherwise.
All the years of "the last and greatest prophet." Christianity was corrupted by the Romans. Muslims do not have to answer any questions. Just accept Jesus.. He has all the answers. Time to remove the Dome of the Rock. Come to Jesus.
Yep, these are just the standard ones. You only need standard ones when there are many more so that you have to establish some sort of standard to get some sort of agreement. If you have one interpretation that says that you have to feed 1 poor person if you can't fast and another that says you have to feed 3 or more, which one is right. And when there are soooooo many different differences like this you end up with hundreds of arguments over these things.
This in addition to all the contradictions in the Qur'an to begin with.
Thanks 🙈🙊 Mr 🥰
Genesis 19:30-38 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
And the firstborn bare a son, and called his name Moab: the same is the father of the Moabites unto this day.
And the younger, she also bare a son, and called his name Benammi: the same is the father of the children of Ammon unto this day.
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kjvbible.kingjamesbiblefree Is this the word of God?
Do you even read the Bible to fully understand what these tribes ended up to become?
@@EAD1142 Man is the human being and the mind is the mind. You are not reading. Do you know the language of Christ and his mother, Mary? The Old Testament Hebrew Christ said I came to complete and not to elegance
@@mahmoudsbeih8614 Brother I'm trying my best to figure out what you're trying to say here. Unfortunately, I can't.
@@EAD1142because they are trying to read as Quran it doesn't have start and end like dog without head and it's tail
Where is the evidence that JC exist.
Faadi, where is the original Bible and Gospel of Jesus ? In all major scriptures only Bible is not provided in original text ?
All major religious groups like Hindus, Buddhists Muslims etc provide original text of their religious scriptures (Hindus provide Vedas in Sanskrit, Budhists provide Dhammapad in Pali, Muslims provide Quran in Arabic)
But only Christian religious leaders don’t provide Bible in original text ?
English vowels aeiuo. The ere no vowels in Arabic and instead they Khalifa Othman introduced symbol that attached on a letter to tell the reader the pronunciation of that alphabet according to the symbol. So the alphabet can sound Aa or Ae or Au yet is the same alphabet. So why so big deal when the meaning of the word does not change in other Quran.
Yes just like the bible was in aramaic language so when right for English people than must follow the English language. The Arabic Quran has remain the same by introducing the symbol that defines the pronunciation of that alphabet.
@ADIL KHAN
Just like God made bible aramaic why than now in English. Why blame God for fail to understand the right think to do .the right is to put vowels to help people understand the right pronunciation. Chicken fir English but shicken for German is this a problem
@@saidmohammed7597 Just as 'God' ? - Slimy !!
21:14 The „problems“ with Jesus Christ are „thank god“ to not less, but of the same magnitude of deficits of authentic texts.
Lol. You guys try so hard. Qur'an has never changed and will never change.it is in the hearts of millions .Memorized word for word. Passed on generations to generations.
Islam is meant for eternity unlike Judaism and Christianity which were meant for only an era. The books aren't preserved for either of them
Lol! "quran has never changed and will never change...."
Abu Ubaid, Kitab Fada’il-al-Qur’an-A’isha . . . said, “Surat al-Ahzab used to be recited in the time of the Prophet with TWO HUNDRED VERSES, but when Uthman wrote out the codices he was unable to procure more of it than there is in it today [i.e. 73 verses].”
And:
When Ibn Umar-son of the second Muslim caliph-heard people declaring that they knew the entire Qur’an, he said to them: “Let none of you say, ‘I have learned the whole of the Koran,’ for how does he know what the whole of it is, when much of it has disappeared? Let him rather say, ‘I have learned what is extant thereof’” (Abu Ubaid, Kitab Fada’il-al-Qur’an).
@@elsemorris906 lol you guys can't even come up with new arguments. Recycling old ones without shame. . references are weak and in coherent. Thousands of campanions had Memorized the Qur'an. What would some presumable paper do to preserve the text. Qur'an is recited everyday five times a day in our prayers. In every Ramadan from start to end. Not only do the memorizers of Qur'an read it out loud but many memorizers (huffaz) listen to it. You can't change a word in Qur'an. Just can't. It is corroborated through millions of sources. It is from the creator with a promise that it will be preserved. This is the miracle of the Qur'an itself and a sign to the disbelievers. ....but the arrogant wont take head.so wait and we wait too.
@Majo Flinterman this is what I'm saying. We never needed paper or leaves to keep it intact given the large numbers. That was an individual thing for personal memorization. Jibreel as came in the last year and recited the Qur'an with Rasullalah saws twice. End to end. There is no such thing as a missing piece of quran on some paper and/or leaf. Had that been the case it would have been inconsistent , lie filled and incoherent like the many versions of Bible
Halleluijah Amen, Love from Bangladesh.
Soo many times we Muslims have refuted about this 30 versions of Qur'an,... But still u people are again again getting this topic... 🤦♂️🤦♂️ 🤦♂️ 🤦♂️.....
Why can't you people understand that all religions are man-made.. including Christianity?
Too focused in Uthman R.A as controller of reading in part of the commentary. Jay missed that the Recollection Work started from Abu Bakr R.A and Umar R.A. It was ongoing work by several companions instead of 'dictator' Uthman. Easy. 30 qurans? Never saw/hear any different editions out there presentement. Evidence is clear.
Jay just want to normalize concoction in Bible. Ermmm. Do not ask Muslim to repent if the Bible itself that is indeed corrupted.
Thank you for exposing islam!
THE NEW TESTAMENT BOOK DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE THE HOLY BOOK OF CHRISTIANS, BECAUSE THE CONTENT OF THE BOOK IS ONLY THE INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND ISRAELITES, THERE IS NO INTERACTION BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANS.
THERE ARE SIX CHRISTIAN WORDS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS.
SO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS.
I think no one dreamt of the future languages technology
Matheus /Johannes / Marcus /Lukas evangelical texts are each (!) corrupted in thousand variants - see scholar Dr Bart Ehrman.
God is our Creator, do not be creator of god of our imaginations and speculations.
From Ten Commandments;
"I am the Lord, thy God"
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me".
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image"
What i heard fr.muslims there are 3000 diff.books of bible.is it true.can anybody explain.?
There is only one true Quran.
Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit... Islam is a false religion and Muhammad is a false prophet who misled billions of people in the world Jesus is supreme Jesus has the power to grant eternal life. Hallelujah to Christ Jesus Trinity : God (Yahweh) + His Word (Jesus) + His Spirit.... be bless.. peace!.........
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Thank you sir GOD Bless
The Quran is the word of God Almighty. Not from Muhammad. The only name for women in the Quran is the Virgin Mary 32 times chapter for maria in quran. If quran from mohammed why he write chapter for maria
All of this to say there are different ways to recite it. Just Google qiraat. That's exactly what's written on his slides. For all those whose biases are being confirmed you deserve it. Wait for the appointed time which we all believe in and it will be blatantly clear who is right and who is wrong
Jesus at any appointed time is the Way, the Truth, the Life. Quran & Islam is obviously blatantly wrong.
@@cmoma942 random blurts without any proof or logic
@Majo Flinterman don't make up lies. There are no forty Quran's circulating.
@@sia786 sound like you describing the Moehmad and the book with many holes.
@@cmoma942 lol. You don't even know how to talk forget giving any evidence
Thank God we don't have this problem with who Jesus is: we know who he is we know what he did we know what he said we knew where he was born, yet you believe Jesus was blonde!
JESUS IS NOT GOD OF CHRISTIANS.
JESUS DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CHRISTIAN.
THERE IS NO VERSE IN THE BIBLE THAT PROVES THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS.
JESUS WAS NEVER SENT TO CHRISTIANS.
THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN JESUS AND CHRISTIANITY.
JESUS ONLY HAS A VERY CLEAR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.
MATTHEW 15: 24
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of ISRAEL.
JESUS WAS BORN TO BE A LEADER WHO WILL SHEPHERD THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, NOT SHEPHERD CHRISTIANS.
MATTHEW 2: 6
And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people ISRAEL.
JESUS ONLY SPOKE TO THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, JESUS NEVER SPOKE TO CHRISTIANS.
MARK 12: 29
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments, Hear, O ISRAEL, The Lord our God is one Lord.
JESUS IS THE SAVIOUR OF THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.
JESUS IS NOT THE SAVIOUR OF CHRISTIANS.
THERE IS NO VERSE IN THE BIBLE THAT STATES THAT JESUS IS THE SAVIOUR OF CHRISTIANS.
ACTS 13: 23
Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto ISRAEL A SAVIOUR, JESUS.
ALL OF JESUS' ACTIVITIES RECORDED IN THE BIBLE WERE WITH THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, NEVER WITH CHRISTIANS.
JAY SMITH,
TRY TO SHOW A VERSE IN THE BIBLE THAT PROVES THAT JESUS IS GOD OF CHRISTIANS.
Send them to islam scholars and imams
so, it was Abd Malik the mastermind behind it all.. hmmm..maybe M was innocent.. ootootootootoo..!!!!
Yes Zakir Naik may have stunned and shocked by these latest revelations.
If the religion is cooked up,then a prophet like Zakir Naik are false. They better study and research first than continue telling people........" its written".
Can u tell me which Al-Quran is different meaning?
*Oooo-t-t-t-toooo!!*
Sheik Yasir qadhi : Hold my Quran
OH MY LORD GOD JESUS CHRIST
PROTECT AL FADI AND JAY SMITH FAMILY FROM THE DEVIL RELIGION AND FROM THE SATAN PEOPLE AND FILL THEM WITH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AMEN
I can see the Christians are desperate to prove the Quran wrong, well l wish you luck but it will be futile.
Why not look at the lies and deceit in you holy book that has been manipulated and changed over and over with versions from who knows how many people,according to ??? Ive never seen a version according to Jesus(PBU) or God.
It has been proofing that the Bible, over the years had stayed the same.
They found old scriptures and the write the same as today. Only difference of course the language of the time. But meaning is the same
good scientific investigation but unfortunately you have an agenda that discredits the quality of your work. this is the problem with all religions, they are rational and logical when it comes to other religions but as soon as they face their own they become irrational superstitious and unscientific.
Christian belief in trinity but ever since they only mentioned Jesus, what about the other 2 ? In fact , if you follow the trinity, Jesus shouldn't be highlighted now because he was only relevant during his time. When he was crucified, resurrected and then he died. He clean all human sin. After that Jesus has no role. Holly spirit also is not relevan now.Why are you still worshipping him now. By right there should be only one god left , trinity should have been transformed into singularity. At the end of the day, the god is only one, trinity is no more relevant, only god (Allah) is exist now. Why Christians are still worshiping Jesus and mentioning his name all the time instead of God/Father/Lord? Why Christians still do not open their eye? Come to Islam because Islam is better religion.
@Majo Flinterman You miss my point. At the moment who is the God? Why Christian always mention Jesus, what happen to their Lord/Father.
@Majo Flinterman Haha! you miss my point!
@Majo Flinterman - Are you actually saying that the TRUE God is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob ---and Moses ? Really ?
@Majo Flinterman BUT are you still NOW saying that the god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is he ONLY true ultimate reality ?
@Majo Flinterman Who do you mean by 'HIM' - And again are you NOW saying that the only true God is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob ?
As if the bible is authentic..
Both are equally invalid
Those books were written for the people of that era not for this era the Abrahamic religions are a soup of confusion, we are entering in an era where we should question everything nothing wrong with that.
I like the turban or head scarf you always wear . Thank you so much for what you do.
You really should stick to your own faith and not bother yourself with what does not concern you
Hahaha..
So this guy left Islam to go worship idols! Was it poverty or the devil is also working very hard?
Bro. Islam will remain a true religion of God.
Read these bible verses:
Deuteronomy 21:22-23, Exodus 20:3, Matthew 4:10, Luke 4:8, Leviticus 26:1, Ezekiel 23:30, 38:18, 33:25, Ezekiel 14:3, Ezekiel 14:4, Jeremiah 1:16, Isaiah 2:8.
Even though Catholics deny that they don't worship the idols, but they are often seen kneeling before them - taking them to be earthly representation of Mary and Jesus.
Now, i believe this guy is sick!
He once claimed he was Muslim, but wants nothing to do with Islam. But, he is forever adorning Muslim attires!
The brain was corrupted to leave Islam, but the heart/soul still admires Islam.
Brother run away very fast!
Christianity was not even the religion of christ. It is a corrupted version of Judaism, tailoredbto meet the needs of Romans. The reason Romans were prepared to kill early Christians, and eyewitness disciples of Jesus so that that they overhaul Jesus' teachings! Ask yourself these questions:
1. Was Jesus unaware of what he was teaching when he was on earth? Why would he teach different things while on earth, then go away and send Paul to come contradict all his (Jesus') teachings?
2. In view of 1. Which "Jesus" appeared to Paul? You and i know that the world is waiting for Jesus ' "second coming", not "third coming"!
3. Why would Jesus make Paul blind in order to talk to him? In order to give him instructions? Jesus never made anyone blind when he was on earth, and even when he appeared to his disciples after the alleged crucifixion. Who exactly appeared to Paul? Is it possible that Satan assumed Jesus' appearance and then made him blind in order not to be recognised? How comes Paul's teachings are contradicting Christ, if it's Christ who sent him?
4. How comes those who accompanied Paul never saw Jesus when he allegedly appeared to Paul? They only heard the voice. The bible is even contradicting itself on this.
Read these verses, and decide for yourself which is "more" manmade!
The bible is replete with cases of killings, rape, mass murders, forced slavery - allegedly under the instructions of the "Jewish God". Read these verses: Numbers 31:7-18, Chronicles 21:14-15, Isaiah 13:16, Zachariah 14:2, Lamentations 5:11.
In the case of Numbers 31:7-18; How do you (as a man), tell that a 3 year or a 9 year old girl is a virgin? By sleeping with her, against her will - right? If this is not rape, what is it?
And the worst bit is, the instruction came from the "Hebrew God". The same God allegedly ordered them to kill infants as young as 1 month. Think about it! And this is how you portray God - as a vengeful, irrational, merciless, etc or the bible was intentionally manipulated to be used to commit genocide against other races!
In the bible, there are over 1,000 contradictions. Here are some of them:
1. What did Judas iscariot do with the money he was paid after betraying Jesus? There are two different accounts in the bible! Logically, one is not true!
2. How was Jesus crucified? Definitely, not on a cross. The Jews never used to crucify people on a cross. It was not known to them then. Then, where did the cross come from? Or how many times was Jesus crucified? Read Deuteronomy 21:22-23.
3. How old was Jesus when he died? The bible is deliberately scanty on Jesus life and lifestyle while on earth. Despite having lived on earth for 33 years, he is being portrayed as having lived for 1 month. During the 33 years period, Jesus did everything any mortal did, including sleeping and waking up regularly, playing as a kid on a regular basis. And when he reached maturity, he was circumcised according to Jewish culture- and by a man!
Early Christianity did not regard Jesus as God. It was in 400 AD when a Roman empiror (Constantine), who was not in the list of prophets/was not an appostle of God comanded that Jesus must be regarded as a God/Son of God. The Ebionites and nazarenes objected, but were killed in large numbers till the narative stuck. In fact, prior to that, trinity was not even known.
4. According to God's plan, He only intended to use Mary as the one who will bring Jesus on earth. Thereafter, Mary was to go on with her life. She was later married by Joseph and together they were blessed wiyh other children (daughters and sons). Now Mary was mother of Christ/God! Why are you embarrassed to say, "brothers and sisters of "God"? Why are you embarrassed to call Joseph, step father of "God"?
You're even shy to recognize Jesus' dibblings in the bible. They too, played their part.
5. The bible portrayed Jesus kneeling down severally and praying to God! Which God was he worshipping? Was he worshipping himself? If he was worshipping himself, how comes at calvary he prayed till "his sweat turned to blood", and still he refused to honour his own prayer? Was her merely acting? I mean, he sent himself to come and die for humanity. Why was he praying asking "himself " to have "mercy on himself" and remove the cup?
6. If Jesus was God, how comes at calvary he asked Peter and another disciple (must be Andrew), to keep vigil as he prayed? You mean your God is not omnipresent?
You have a lot to deal with! Stop misinterpreting the hadiths, and Quran to misinform "some muslims" and to exite fellow christians!
The problem is that a person lies and then lies and then lies until people believe you. Mind is the difference between us and animals
That is exactly how muhammadism works.
I feel sorry for you. With millions of 'huffaz' on the planet, MashaAllah, and reading Quran in so many parts of the world, far and wide, you still keep repeating your garbage. Go! hear a recording from Somalia, Nigeria, Bangladesh, India, Turkey, Pakistan, Malaysia, and from thousands of places; you won't find a letter of difference.
I do not believe you.
the holy Quran was codificed by uthman,and the same way of delivery has taken care of an absolutely insurance...it has not been changes ever since..the Quran states its forbidden to changes words on its..
and the law about this is very clearly..the Quran had been preserved
since centuries in its genuine form, like it is revealed to our prophet
Muhammad[ p.b.u.h]..
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Who said Isaac Newton exist? Jay Smith shook hands with Newton, that's how we know he existed.
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No you are mistaken mate yes he did shake hand with someone and that was with satan.
There is only one version of the Quran. Go to any mosque anywhere on the earth and ask them to give you the Arabic version of the Quran and compare it with any Quran from anywhere else on our planet. You will find that all of them are similar, word by word, even dotes. If all Quran in our world is destroyed, the Quran will remind. Because there are millions of Muslim brothers who memories the Quran word by word. So since Prophet Muhamed, the Quran remains the same. Allah says in Quran, " We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it."
Who guarded the Quran Uthman or Allah?
Ask Quadi about the SEVEN so called qirats?
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No. Your chance to defend. Go ahead.