Steve Hinton Intro to Jets PART II: MiG 15 to F-86 | Hangar Talk | Planes of Fame
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- Steve Hinton spent a couple of days organizing the Jet Hangar at Planes of Fame Air Museum. I sat down with him afterwards and asked him to tell us a little bit about the collection. He discusses the jet planes in our collection and his experiences as a pilot. Be sure to check out Part I!
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My Dad passed away last year. He worked on the F-86 back in the 1950’s. He loved that plane.
The very best pilots I've ever met all share one trait, aside from their airplane handling abilities. And that trait is humility. To listen to somebody with Steve's background and considerable talent, plainly discuss handling qualities of airplanes very few of us will ever fly, is a real treat. To hear that commentary without self-serving statements or a narrative designed to build himself up is the mark of a true professional. Thanks for sharing this great content, the F-86 is certainly on my short list of types I'd love to fly.
F86 Saber has always been my favorite...it is what jets are supposed to look like!
Idk I've always liked the mig for it's looks
The Saber was the Spitfire of its era... such a clean, flowing design.
I have very fond memories of this beautiful fighter. Easy to fly, and easy to master. A joy to fly however early models had a gun jamming problems. All in all a graceful jet indeed.
The P51D and the F86, were in my humble opinion the most beautiful aircraft ever designed.
Great Video! I could listen to Steve talking about planes all day!
Agreed!
Excelente trabajo de filmación . Gracias por mostrar en forma tan detallada el F-80 , T-33 y F-86 Sabré .
An interesting and accomplished man....... STeve is in some of kermit weeks videos too....
I worked years ago with an Air Force veteran of Korea and Vietnam Nam. He referred to himself as a "gun plumber"...worked on the guns. He had some stories!
I always enjoy Steve's commentary on these.
In 1958 my papa had to eject from an F-86L before it exploded over Davenport, WA. This video was a treat to learn something about the Sabres; thank you!
When asked, Captain Eric Brown RN, who holds the record for the most types of aircraft flown, said his favourite JET aircraft was the F-86E.
My uncle, who defected from PRC in the late 80s, was a major General who was in charge of Chinese MiG 15 and 17 production. He spoke fairly fluent Russian as he head spent timer there learning the manufacturing details. In the 60s he was arrested during the Cultural Revolution (he was accused of being a "intellectual") and imprisoned and tortured for years. He eventually was released, whereupon he saved up enough money to bribe his way out of China, and came to live with us after the US intelligence tracked us down for him (he only knew that his brother had made it out of China decades earlier). He thought his brother had a family here, but wasn't sure. Somehow (uh huh) the CIA tracked down my mom's address and brought him to meet us. My dad had died long before his arrival, sadly,. But one day, my mom went to the door, only to be surprised by the spitting image of my deceased dad, while a large dark-colored sedan waited outside.
He could take a sheet of cardboard and using scissors and glue, could make UNREAL models of MiGs. You'd have to see it to believe it. He always told me that the American Jets had more power, but were more fragile and couldn't maneuver as well a low altitudes.
Great stuff, here. Thanks!
Oh to see the P-80 fly again. My dear friend Mary Feik worked with Tony LaVier at Lockheed. Sure do miss her since she past.
I still have the F86 Sabre jet model I built back around 1983 when I was 14 yrs old...it's still on my shelf and it still looks good!!
Both the Mig and F86 were based on Kurt Tanks work for Fokker Wolf, which is why the looked similar. Both smashing looking and in my top 10 early jets.
6:12 that Sabre jet is a legendary jet that makes it unique from other ones because it belonged to th top ace during the Cold War who downed over sixteen migs and only got shot down once, survived and continued to fly sabres for a long time. Before that he served as a medic in world war 2
Another great clip, thanks for putting these together. More of the same, please!
I worked avionics on T-33As at Tyndall AFB, FL. in the late 1970s. A very good trainer. Our pilots liked it. It acted as target for the interceptor pilots in the F-106 Delta Dart. The T-33A was so simple we crosstrained. I did electrical, hydraulic and minor engine work on it. Also acted as crewchief, marshalling the morning birds out for their flights. Tyndall's T-birds were decommisioned around 1986, I think. I left there in 1980.
We once had a Canadair T-bird fly in, it was privately owned. So shiny clean and pretty compared to ours!
My uncle flew the F-86F in Korea. He said it was a joy to fly.
Steve Hinton certainly agrees; a joy to fly!
Keep up the great work Steve and all the boys. Always great seeing you! Be safe.
These are great to watch and I sure hope you do more. Met Steve a few times and he is a great person. I live in Canada and daydream about working at planes of fame someday.
The IG teases you did brought me here! Love to see more! Love how Steve tells it! Let’s get some of the prop planes narrated by Steve! Bravo!
dude, I wanna be just like Steve when I'm older. I really want to race at reno too, but I'm still young. So let's make it a dream. Also one of our close friends flew the A4 Skyhawk. He said it was a hell of a thing to learn on, but once you were good at flying it as a joy.
Yes! More please, Steve does a great narration.
Beautiful jets that stood in the test of time.
For much of my life, the T-33 was still active in the Canadian Armed Forces. I found it rather fascinating to think that a trainer, derived from the first EVER U.S. jet fighter (i.e. the T-33 was basically a two seat P-80), was still serving as an 'introduction to jets' for pilots who would later fly the Canadianized F/A-18.
It's like listening to a 2020 Version of First Flights ..😊 Awesome stuff Steve! 👍✈
Super video. More pleeeeease!
another fantastic video! you guys do great work, I'd love to see more POF videos!!
Flying an f-86 to me looks like it could be like driving a fast sports car!! I have a radio control version love the plane, they just look so good in the air.
Suggestion...'more, please'. Fantastic - POF seems to have a fantastic in-house Producer, Writer, Director now! Congratulations to Karen, Steve(s) and the entire team, cannot wait to get back out. Mitch Thank you.
My favorite vintage jet is the Mig-21.
Time to fly P-59 !
Its on our restorations list! Hoping to do an update video soon.
Steve Hinton knows from experience what proper attitudes towards flying is. He also had Mr. R A Hoover to see as an example :)
Hinton was the only pilot Hoover would let fly his P-51 and T-33 (both painted yellow) to the Reno air races. Hoover would fly himself there in his Shrike Aero Commander which he would perform aerobatics in.
boy every time i watch a video of planes of fame I kick myself in the ass for not going there when i was in the Navy in socal
I wish Steve would have been seen walking around these planes!
Can we get a comparison of the P80 vs the Me262?
I would not refer to the 23 mm cannon carried by the Mig 15 as machine guns.
Have the same last name as you Steve, sure wish we were related LOL! Thanks for sharing this awesome video, love everything aviation!
Was fortunate to see a flying demo years ago @ El Toro with a MIG15 vs F86 Sabre. The MIG was fast & manuevable. Unfortunately the next day the F86 and pilot were lost in the accident there. My uncle worked at N.A Aviation during ww2 and I to the early 50s on the Sabre assembly & later into another career path.
That P-80 would be great to see fly. It would be some work to get it there.
I see comments of people wanting to be like these guys,We had DISCIPLINE todays kids raised without it!.
One and only time I ever saw an F-86 I was up near moosehead lake Maine sitting in a canoe in a bog almost near dusk trying to spot a moose,
We sat there for over an hour and hadn't seen a thing, when all of a sudden an F-86 thundered over the tree tops into the clearing we were in !!! Didn't even hear it coming, we were like "holy shit" !
My father said "Well I guess we're not gonna see a moose now !
Figuring it would scare anything off. We were just about to leave and a couple of huge moose came walking out into the bog !
I was so Cool, they came within about 20' of us, in about neck deep water, dunking their heads under eating the vegetation from the bottom, !
Found out afterwards that there's an AF base not far North of there and I guess F-86's flying treetop don't bother the moose.
BTW this took place back in the early 80's, idk if they're still flying F-86's now, but I'll tell you, they're a cool ass plane ! That pilot must have spotted us a couple miles away and decided to buzz us ! Awesome sight !!! Lol
As a kid, I only cared about WWII piston engine AC. Until I saw a picture (A GOOD ONE) of an F86. I think it is the most gorgeous airplane ever. Even made me appreciate butt-ugly things like F4s, other go-fast stuff.
Wow
An F-80C scored the first jet on jet air victory over a Mig-15 in 1950.
The straight-wing XP-86 was never built but the FJ-1 retained the original straight-wing design.
I see a yellow Mew Gull on the wall 8:43. One of my all-time favorites.
Love that P-80! Get with Greg Coyler, restore it and lets see it on the airshow circuit!
1:35 - so THESE are the wings that Red Bull gives you.
Thanx for clearing that up. 😉
The Mig 15 had the Russian version of the Rolls Royce Nene engine given to them by the Labour government of Clement Attlee.
The story goes the head of RR lost a game of billiards to a Soviet.
The Brits gave a few engines to the Soviets as commercial samples hoping for future sales.
But the sneaky Soviets decided to just copy it. Which they totally haven't done before.
Rongoel The Superfortress that landed on Russian turf were backward engineered by the Soviets. The Engine and bomb sight technologies the Americans spent millions on was lost when the aircraft made a emergency landing in the USSR.
You were being ironic perhaps?
@@johnsummers2822 No i would never be ironic
Some distinctly ME262 lines in that sabre airframe.
Which part?
These Parts Are Quite Different: 1) Fuselage 2)Wings 3) Tail 4) Engine(s)
5) Canopy
@@waynebrinker8095 we can't all be blessed with an imagination and ability to see lines of parentage in things.
@@kiwidiesel5071It would benefit a poor soul like me if you would describe the Messerschmitt lines and parentage that you see. Do not be reticent, in order that I too may be enlightened.
@@waynebrinker8095 Since in my first statement I was making an observation of my own and not preaching , I will decline from further having to explain myself as it contradicts my entire reasoning for the original observation.
@@kiwidiesel5071 Yeah, it didn't get preachy until you had to boast about your unique blessings and abilities. You write well but they are words of a fool.
Challenge to the world: someone get a Republic F-84 flying.
@@flaps_rickenbacker247 Hey, can you explain to me why on the F-86 shown above, the front tip of wing root looks like it s been cut off and wing internal structure is visible
At 9:40 I note the model designation is a mashup of Lockheed T-33 and Canadair CT-133, and should it actually read CT-133?
F-86 looks like Capt. Joseph McConnells AC. Thx!
What happened to the USAF B-50 which was stored disassembled at PoF?
did I spot a yellow mew gull in the back round suspended on the wall ??
Oh yea the p-80 was not e derivative of the t-33, it was the other way round
Always wondered why an interim follow-on to the Saber (the way the MiG-17 was developed directly from the MiG-15) was never introduced? Some specific design-limitation on accommodation of more powerful engines? Sabers were 'modernized' in many ways, incorporation of small radars, some even being adapted to carry Sidewinder missiles, but generally those variations utilized the same basic air frame.
I think you'll find that the F-100 Super Sabre filled that exact role.
Finally at 6.9 the Sabre
All my volunteer shirts are gathering dust, anyone got a time machine? 😁
I don’t know why they block the inlets while on ground.
To prevent debris entering, to prevent birds building nests there, as examples
@@sundar999
Oh ok that makes sense. Thanks.
From everything I've heard about both the MIG-15, and the F-86, they are the others peir.
Not to sharp shoot you, and please direct me to your source if I'm wrong, but the F-86 doesn't have an all moving tail. It has the same elevator as the Mig-15. I stand corrected it was changed on the F-86E, never heard of it or even seen an all moving tail on an F-86 museum display. Learn something new all the time.
This video obviously was sponsored by red bull :0))
You think the 86 look like it has a german features you should compare the mig 15 to the huckbeen from foke wolf
FW 183.
low sound mumbling .i,m outa here