Mat Fraser and Rich Froning Beef: My Thoughts
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- čas přidán 5. 01. 2021
- Mat Fraser and Rich Froning Beef: My Thoughts
Mat's Side: • The Darren Woodson Sho... - From 43 Minutes Onwards
Rich's Side: • (LIVE) Mayhem Athlete ... - From about 3 minutes onwards
My story is even worse, i have neither spoken to Rich, nor have we met...and now I know why, must be my something about my squats!!!
HAHAHAHAH
That must be it!! 😂
who else watching this after Rich's "we're fine, leave us alone" post haha?
Fraser posted the exact same pic too but with a different caption haha
Me. What on earth is going on?
Was that on IG?
@@xtrasolido yes
@@timhoward1888 👍🏼
Thank you!! This is a very mature response to this situation. Love following you guys.
I've been waiting for this video since yesterday :D I knew you would do it.
He didn't really do it 🤷
Always, Always Awesome. Positive and love is always increased after your videos are released. Thank you
Thanks Craig! I watched the interview with today Mat and right afterwards looked to see if you had posted anything one it. Thanks for not disappointing. You and Jaz are straight up good people love and appreciate what you do!
Your videos always make me smile!🙂
I am in a little later in the American day here, but thank you. I think your perspective on this is dead on. You could have blown this up for views, but you were honest. One of the many reasons I love this channel.
Hands down the best review / commentary I’ve seen . Thank you for not adding to the drama and making things up . Let the GOATS 🐐 be. #sickcontent #hstlmade
Was just gonna request a HSTLmade sweatshirt in the next drop. Seems you're on my wavelength! Can't wait :-)
I love your shirt!!!
I was waiting for this vlog bro
Your videos keeping me sane-ish through lock-down 3.0, keep it up bro!!! Also please say that shirt will be on the next drop.
Absolute sage response. Glad you waited to post
Really well done Craig, you showed more tact and professionalism than the entire of the journalistic world combined. Appreciate your take on this while not doing anything to exacerbate the situation.
Really loved your take-on on the issue. Well done!
Im a part of a CrossFit gym and this vibe has always been prevalent between top athletes. Pride & ego is crazy
"It goes beyond the athletes' egos since Froning tried to derail Fraser's career. It wasn't just mistreatment and athletic ego; it was a level of sabotage. Froning prohibited Fraser from training, claiming there were COVID restrictions, and when Fraser went to the gym to pick up his equipment to train at home, Froning and his close group were all training there.
That's not athletic ego; that's dirty and treacherous sabotage, and it has nothing to do with the CrossFit community."
Thank you Craig! Respected by being respectful. I appreciate that.
This is what I've been waiting for!!!!!
Perfect response to this issue. This is why I like you channel. Keep up the great work.
Awesome response. Exactly what I was thinking but could not find the right way to say it. Thank you. Also, I'm hoping you make a run for the Games within the next year or two.
Respect for explaining this as it is and not blowing it out of proportion
Thanks for your brief true remarks.
I think you read the situation well and covered it well. Cheers!
I was waiting for this lol
So great to see someone talking sense, Craig! CrossFit had a fresh start in 2020, so let's keep the positive culture going. Neither Rich nor Mat were digging on each other, just telling it from their own POV and not trying to trash each other. They both had a chance, and they were both the better people. There's a certain kind of people who can't stand that. Thanks for shutting them down!
I like your no-drama attitude! Two of the best athletes, period.
Kudos bro, very well put and video.
Great video and love all your points
As media, with relationships with 2 of the biggest names in the sport of course you are not going to really address this. Need to protect those relationships. We need that Brooke Wells energy back.
Lol yessssss
I was thinking the same
Please don't. I need the Brooke/Craig beef squashed. Also He don't want no smoke. After that mess with Brooke, being right and broke is a poor man's argument.
Exactly. Craig is way too close now to objectively report on anything.
What happened with brooke??? I’m kinda late for the ☕️
Good for you for not engaging in the drama or trying to make this into more than it is. Like you said not everyone will like each other.
This was 100% my analogy of the situation and was 100% my attitude towards it too. Everything you said was spot on and in the whole scheme of things in life, it's very much a non-story and anyone that got excited about it on the internet needs to find something else to fill their time with. Vultures. I loved your ability to employ empathy here by putting yourself in both of their shoes. There isn't nearly enough of that these days, or maybe they're never was. But even though you've never been a multiple CrossFit Games champion you certainly were able to put yourself in their place and understand why it might be hard for Rich, and also why in turn, Mat might have reacted the way he did. This is not remotely something worth sensationalizing or creating drama about. I think the only thing worth criticizing is that Mat probably shouldn't have aired this publicly. This isn't something to share and he should have came up with a more diplomatic answer to that question. You can't talk about something publicly unless you want to spark conversation.
Honestly the best video I’ve ever seen haha says it how it is!
Well said as always. Thanks for being real
Well done on that blunt and honest episode ! Loved how you stayed objective and down to earth. Keep up the good work !!!
I dislike that this is public, but you covered it very well - thanks for how you took this one on. Look, they're adults, and if Mat felt there was something that happened, he could have picked up the phone or god forbid, DROVE over and spoke with Rich himself. It looks like there's a lot of assumptions made by Mat, and a genuine lack of communication on both sides. In addition to that, who cares? We need less drama in our lives, not more.
I think it's interesting that most CF "news" outlets and bloggers like Team Richey and others have taken the stance that there is "nothing to see here". It's probably because these bloggers all have relationships with Rich and Mat and they don't want to take sides and upset them. While most of the issue seems to be miscommunication, there was a glaring thing that Mat said that wasn't addressed by Rich and that's the whole excommunication part. Can't see how Mat would make something like that up...
So. freaking. true.
All protecting their access to both athletes by playing it nice.
@@FreemasonV8 exactly. Love Team Richey and most of the other news bloggers but they just seem to be brushing all this off with no real opinion. I don't think anyone needs to take sides but there were some things said that i think warrant some discussion given that Mat and Rich are two of the faces of CF.
This
@@Bigpunn05 100% agree. Something is off. I would love to see Froning and Fraser sit down or have some one moderate a talk between the two of them to hash it out about what really happened.
@@joshuabeeker same but they probably won't.
You summed it up pretty well and unfortunately there are people/publications that are just stoking a fire to cause drama to get clicks. There is literally NOTHING here, nothing. It is two grown men who didn't communicate.
Great comment and nothing more to say.. 👍it speaks so much for you, and your great personality, how you react on this.
great word here by you man...well said ....very level headed, thanks!
I think Mat progressed to a level where Rich couldn't beat him in the workouts anymore and Rich couldn't take it so he ghosted him.
Exactly
Sounds like it
At the end of the day we really don't anything. I like both of them. Let's not let our imagination run wild.
Yep, that injury BS doesn't hold up well.
If he didn't care about getting beat up, why would he ghost Mat in the first place ? Especially since it didn't prevent him to talk to other people who could still train like TCT...
Great outlook on the situation.
Perfect! Just another reason why i love craig and jas so much!
That was the video that made me subscribe. Love the videos anyways, but this was your best in my opinion. Two Alphas can easily lose touch because of poor communication. Great Video!
That HSTL jumper is soo sick. Please make more
was literaly just looking at your channel to see if you had spoken on this ahah
love the way you commented on this so called *beef* think you hit the nail on the head, wouldnt it be awesome to see these to colllab now !!
Love the sweatshirt!
This. Was. Perfectly. Said! Bravo, mate!
Good perspective, resonates with me!
Great outlook on this Craig and well put... Don’t have to like someone to respect what they do though...
You the man, Mr. Richey. I cringed at this title and was going to let it play in the background cuz I like both those dudes...and you nailed it. Alphas being alphas. Those interested in causing hype need to workout harder or longer or maybe give someone a hug.
Props for the way you addressed this man haha
I appreciate you keeping it real! No need to create a mess when there isn't a mess.
Perfectly said. 💯🙏🏻✌🏻💪🏻
Always love your common sense point of view Craig!
When is this jumper available?!?! or did i just miss it last time
This is probably one of your best videos! Well said, they are men, let them figure it out.
Great thoughts on the situation
Rich & Mat just posted, they're all good!!
Your analysis seems quite reasonable for sure, however, I think part of the reason why people are having an issue with it is likely the higher expectations put on Rich due to his faith. He's human, with faults like us all. One thing remains though with the additional information of Matt Hewitt having undergone similar treatment - is this a pattern? And if so, what's behind it?
Interestingly enough, I kind of thought faith might have something to do with it. They pray on their podcast, scripture is part of their brand, and there is some serious Kool-aid stuff going on there. I have to wonder if the people who are excommunicated (and how fitting of a word), might have been because of their politics or their relationship with faith/religion. I think the Alpha stuff is definitely a part of it, but Tia and Shane getting kind of deprioritized? And his former teammate? I dunno, that's a lot of speculation, but that's where my head is at. Rich honestly makes a lot of statements pretty regularly that are pretty politically controversial. I was honestly surprised Shane and Tia would want to be around all that. And from the sound of it, it sounds like they kind of weren't. Despite living in Cookville, which all of us assumed that Matt and Tia lived in in order to work in some way shape or form with Rich (why else would anyone be there?)
@@zackwindell497 I've never heard Rich say anything politically controversial? Only controversial thing I've heard him say is "fatigue is more mental than physical", or things along those lines. Would love to know what controversial stuff you've heard from him tho.
@@benjamindaw1386 On his podcast he made a statement about the UN's report on the relationship between green house gasses, cattle, and climate change bogus. He made this grand, sweeping statement that it was nonsense with no real evidence or reason for dismissing it. I had planned to comment on the podcast video and never got around to it, but apparently a lot of other people did and he kinda walked it back and said he didn't like it when people talked about things they don't know anything about and admitted it wasn't an area of expertise. Then there was another episode that he said "my body my choice right?" And this one was pretty sneaky and you probably wouldn't catch as well if you weren't watching the video. He steals a smartass glance at the camera, but what he was basically doing is comparing a woman's right to choose to his choice to wear a mask.... which is honestly a joke. Like, as if a mask could actually have a negative impact on his health, his professional status, his financial well being, etc. As if wearing a mask is a life changing decision that's going to impact him for the REST of his life. It was just a flippant statement trying to use a pro choice slogan to prop up his own choice to not wear a mask and make a false equivalence. Stuff like this kind of floats under the radar and gets picked up by a small number of people because people listening to his podcast generally sympathize with him politically. And even if you don't, it's kinda like, "whatever his opinions on those things aren't really what I'm here for anyway." But I personally was pretty annoyed by both of these statements on his podcast. I'm certain others were too, but again they didn't get attention outside of consistent listeners giving feedback. People on his show also occasionally make pretty bold statements about certain things.
@@zackwindell497 yeah I can see what you mean then, I haven't listened to his podcast so didn't catch those.
@@zackwindell497 Man, you need to let him move out of your head, or at least charge rent. If you don't like his opinions, don't listen to him. It's really _that_ simple. I don't listen to his podcast because outside of his training and/or nutrition, I couldnt give 2 shits about what he does with his life, or what his personal opinions are on things.
I'm not sure why an opinion someone has is automatically _controversial_ simply because it doesn't jive with yours. He's not making policy for the rest of society, so what does it matter if he makes an off-handed remark about 2 things that many people find silly? How did it affect your life in _any_ manner? Where's the controversy?
"OH NOES! Rich made a joke about something that I, personally, found find offensive!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" Better get back to that safe space, before his jokes hurt you again!
Its clearly the build for a fight on the undercard of Castro Vs. Bridges! #SignItDana!
you mean Castro vs Vellner?
Great job love it!
Everyone loves drama. Its the world we live in. Actually, a really good explanation of telling everyone to just chill.
Nailed it! 👏🏽
Great response 👍
Nicely handled! Bravo!
Very insightful Dude!
Respect to you Craig! Best video i've seen about this. Keeping it 100 and that's why i support this channel. Cheers to you and Jas!!
Love that it’s a non-issue, alpha personalities, spot on! They’re both great and elite, respectable athletes, and they don’t have to be besties. Drama is a waste of energy that could be put toward new PBs!!! 👏🏻👏🏻
Next Drama: Craig said that we all suck at Crossfit 😂
Great Video to end the drama!
People can't usually admit these kind of feelings/concerns even though they know they're reality for everyone (regular and or athlete). The real concern here is when people have started to make videos or write posts to justify themselves instead of talking directly to each other
Full respect for putting this out and trying to deescalate instead of jumping on the blown-up-news wagon!
When will you have more products in stock?
I think, “Why should we expect them to be friends...?” Is a better question. I had 32 (plus JV) teammates in college and I would never dream of training with them in my spare time. I’m sure Rich & Matt could put everything aside to compete, coach, etc. if needed. This video was great! Looks like it’s two (same) adults caught in a misunderstanding
This made me feel like I was back on the black top during recess in fifth grade watching two kids beef it out and become ✨best friends✨ by the end of recess 🥰
This is exactly why I love this channel. Thanks for damping down the drama man. Please save your money up and buy up a few media platforms. We could use more of this in the non-CrossFit world too.
Nicely put👍🤘💪‼️
Some people don’t like me, and I don’t like certain people, and we just have to be ok with that. There are bigger problems in the world then, why can’t we all just be friends.
That two tone 🔥🔥
Can you buy HSTL products in the USA?
You are the best mate!
This very well stated🎯, great job steering clear of nonsense... That kid at the end 😂😂😂
Neither of these guys have ever talked to me and I wanna speak to a manager about it!! 😁
Hey Craig, the inspirational poster behind you looks like it says hard poo😂😂😂😂💩⛰️
Well said!!
i hope that jumper gets released it looks sick!
Well said👏🏻👏🏻
Can you buy HSTL gear in Canada?
That jumper going to be dropping soon? 🔥
Thank god I thought this day would never come
This was all born of emotional insecurities. A truly strong man is not butt hurt by a fellow rivals ability to maintain a healthy body by training within their limits. These guys could learn a lot by hanging out and training with Muai Thai fighters. They will learn what humility and honor truly means...
How can I get that shirt?!
Awesome Richey，you should be a counseller
I like your take on it 👍🏻 who cares if they are friends or not and yeah they could both be good dudes. That said if they want to jump in a ring to settle it I’d be all over that drama train!! 🥊
3:44 damn, i like the way you put it there
You are great buddy!
Looking at Matt post!! They dropped the hatchet! Amen
Finally someone talking sense!!! People just trying to make it into something bigger than it is!
Is there no hstl clothing available mate? Been on the site couldn’t see anything
They do limited time releases
I don't like that this became public. I hope they resolve it privately.
Sounds like that wasn't an option... And the longer rich acts like this the worse it looks. He needs to swallow his ego and bury the hatchet with mat
@@nottheone582 two sides to every story, but it's been settled according to the pick on Rich's IG
Great take. I agree with you 100%. I like them both. I could tell there was something going on between them. I think Matt was telling the truth. I think Rich was too. Rich is injured. Matt being a freak of nature anyway, training next to injured Rich doing better then him in everything would mess with his head. Would mess with anyone's head. I get it. If they do get together in the future it will be commentary like your's here that will make it possible. Great job.
So Rich was being petty.
I can see that.
I'm glad someone said it. Rich felt insecure, which is totally okay. It's hard to be an "Alpha" (which btw isn't a real thing) and swallow your pride enough to say "I'm insecure". But to be passive aggressive about it just isn't a good look.
Kinda punk-ish
Or he just wants to be left alone and doesnt feel like him and Mat have much in common. Also, why did mat move to his hometown? Lol
@@adamcraig1468 and why did rich drop out of individuals before mat could beat him? Dude was straight up threatened and acted like a poor sport
@@nottheone582 he chose to retire after years of being at the top. Mat didn't even win the year after. Ben Smith took him to school remember lol