Side-Stepping of the Triple Pendulum on a Cart

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  • čas přidán 18. 07. 2011
  • Triple Pendulum on a Cart
    Side-stepping
    Two-degrees-of-freedom design:
    Constrained feedforward based on the nonlinear model
    vs.
    Flatness-based feedforward control on the linearized model
    with optimal feedback control
    TU Vienna ACIN CDS www.acin.tuwien.ac.at/
    Done by Andreas Eder and Tobias Glück
    users.acin.tuwien.ac.at/tglueck/
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Komentáře • 46

  • @derekdjay
    @derekdjay Před 9 lety +131

    For non-experienced people who may not see how impressively precise those movements are, imagine backing up with three trailers!

    • @mishaberger1718
      @mishaberger1718 Před 4 lety +7

      It would be the equivalent of backing up with two trailers, since the truck body counts as one as well. Still unimaginably difficult and that’s without gravity

    • @sidm8301
      @sidm8301 Před 3 lety +4

      No I won’t

    • @alexharkler
      @alexharkler Před 3 lety +2

      Hey I used to do that at work with a tug and 3 trailers. I would parallel park just the rear trailer so I could unhook it, then do the same with the other 2 in other places. You just have to be nice and slow and think about where everything was moving. I can't say it was easy, but it was doable. I don't think I could have done 4 but we weren't allowed to pull more than 3 anyway so I never got to test it out.

    • @horrorhotel1999
      @horrorhotel1999 Před rokem

      @@mishaberger1718 No, in your analogy the truck body is equivalent to the sled moving on the rail. Each rod in this system is equivalent to a trailer

  • @ChristmasLightsTonight
    @ChristmasLightsTonight Před 9 lety +99

    I bet this controller has one hell of a transfer function :)

  • @RvdKlein
    @RvdKlein Před 9 lety +41

    Very satisfying how the distance moved is exactly the wall panelling. Nnnggh. :)
    Super impressive mathmatics I'd say.

  • @Mariano.Bernacki
    @Mariano.Bernacki Před 7 lety +23

    Terminators will climb a mountain of skulls using similar advanced stability tech.

  • @tgmnewman
    @tgmnewman Před 9 lety +1

    Hats off to you, this is really impressive.

  • @coenraadmiddel7866
    @coenraadmiddel7866 Před 5 lety +2

    This is very, very impressive.

  • @guyboy625
    @guyboy625 Před 11 lety +7

    Thanks, you've encouraged me to take up control engineering.

  • @Doppelkeks1980
    @Doppelkeks1980  Před 11 lety +14

    There are 56 transitons for a fixed cart position and for each one you have to find a suitable trajectory. The main problem is finding a trajectory that complies with cart position restrictions.

    • @sky173
      @sky173 Před rokem

      Does each joint have a position sensor or does the entire mechanism 'feel' the individual weights for each post? This is amazing stuff. Thanks for sharing.

  • @becomepostal
    @becomepostal Před 12 lety +1

    very impressive!

  • @Doppelkeks1980
    @Doppelkeks1980  Před 11 lety +1

    For sure!

  • @mirfeuss
    @mirfeuss Před 13 lety

    very impressive

  • @TheTanmaybishnoi
    @TheTanmaybishnoi Před rokem

    mindblowing

  • @rustman888
    @rustman888 Před 8 lety +6

    You can tell how the linear model must make much more gradual movements so that the angle from the balanced position isn't too large.

  • @lesath82
    @lesath82 Před 10 lety

    This is impresssssive!! Did you think of addressing the twin inverted pendulum problem?

  • @afdeqa
    @afdeqa Před 13 lety +5

    Awesome! How about the quadruple pendulum?

  • @Pericles_Vicente
    @Pericles_Vicente Před 6 lety +21

    Are there sensors at the joints, or just at the base?

    • @charlesgraham9135
      @charlesgraham9135 Před 3 lety +9

      3 years later.... still wondering

    • @_AvaGlass
      @_AvaGlass Před 2 lety +2

      There are rotary encoders at the joints to measure the angle.

  • @johncarmichael7475
    @johncarmichael7475 Před 9 lety +1

    Holy cow. That's all.

  • @czechm82
    @czechm82 Před 11 lety +3

    Do the segments need to be progressively longer to be controllable?

  • @SanQae
    @SanQae Před 11 lety +5

    Now do this with a chain! :D

  • @Ceelvain
    @Ceelvain Před 11 lety +1

    @Tobias Glük: Couldn't your system make the transitions itself between the stationary positions. Like going from "the 3 links" up to "only the red link down"?
    I saw you did it for 2 links, why not 3?

  • @linhnguyenvu541
    @linhnguyenvu541 Před 9 lety

    encoder type you use it?

  • @Doppelkeks1980
    @Doppelkeks1980  Před 11 lety

    No, we use DSPACE.

  • @OrangeC7
    @OrangeC7 Před 3 lety +3

    I wonder what would happen if one were to manually interfere with it? There would probably be a certain point where it would have to "reset" before it could get back into position, because it can only go so far along the track

    • @TheMennoXD
      @TheMennoXD Před 3 lety +2

      They've done that in other videos.

  • @alessandromarialaspina9997

    Why is that the non linear model causes it to move more erratically? intuitively I would think that the linearized model would result in more erratic movements. Appreciate any response.

    • @philippe5470
      @philippe5470 Před 7 lety +1

      i'm not sure but i think that the calculation time for the non linear model is longer than the linear model

    • @bormisha
      @bormisha Před 4 lety

      I guess the "erratic" movements are optimal in some sense. It could be the result of minimization of the transition time given constrained cart position and velocity. Perhaps if energy, or total distance travelled, was chosen as optimization criterion, it could result in smoother trajectories.

  • @guyboy625
    @guyboy625 Před 11 lety

    But the model needs to be calibrated, right?

  • @guyboy625
    @guyboy625 Před 11 lety

    Does this use machine learning?

  • @hellovikramjeet
    @hellovikramjeet Před 5 lety

    The computers are coming for us :(

  • @guyboy625
    @guyboy625 Před 11 lety

    Lol, pardon my ignorance.

  • @southpark4151
    @southpark4151 Před 6 lety +3

    If you can do three, then you can certainly try for four!!!!!!!

  • @Doppelkeks1980
    @Doppelkeks1980  Před 11 lety +1

    That is not necessary.

  • @lumberj23
    @lumberj23 Před 11 lety +3

    No, it uses magic.
    Some say it is control engineering, but they are wrong!

  • @Doppelkeks1980
    @Doppelkeks1980  Před 11 lety +1

    No.

  • @googleuser4720
    @googleuser4720 Před 3 lety

    It failed

  • @Dragon.7722
    @Dragon.7722 Před 8 lety +9

    Now think about what religion brought us. :>