TLR Podcast: Ranger Vet & Recruiter Talk About How to Become an Army Ranger! SSG Lee
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
- SSG Lee and I discuss joining the Army and the Option 40 (Ranger Contract Option). Join us as we discuss everything you need to know about joining the Army and becoming an Army Ranger to include:
-What the enlistment process is like
-How a job or MOS is selected
-Qualifications needed for the Option 40
-Medical waivers and how they may impact enlistment/Option 40 eligibility
-Misdemenors/felonies and how they may impact enlistment/Option 40 eligibility
-Enlisting with a Greencard and how that may impact enlistment/Option 40 eligibility
-Volunteering for RASP if an Option 40 cannot be obtained
-SSG Lee's advice for joining the Army and the Option 40
-AND MORE!
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For those who got caught up on the comment about being open minded towards MOS options: If you guys know definitively what you want, then make sure you get that job! However, for those who aren’t educated on MOSs, know that there are other cool jobs out there! We aren’t telling people who want to be infantry to be a cook just for the sake of an option 40 lol. Make sure you guys do your research on all options, obviously we want you to get the job you want attached with the contract you want.
One thing I disagree with is being open minded. Go for the job you want, don’t give up 2-6 years doing something you don’t want. I told my recruiter I wanted 68w and he tried insisting 68j. Told him I’ll come back everyday. Next 4 days he snatched 68w with airborne, ship out date is august 30th
I totally agree. I would advise the same
You did it the right way. I joined the military in 2012 but I was too afraid to play hardball to get my dream MOS. He asked me to be open minded and I chose 3531 Motor Transport Operator. Hated the job and ended up getting out after four. Sometimes I wonder if I would still be in if I had made smarter choices.
@@dariantompkins5203 I feel you man. Prior service can apply
@@TrainLikeaRanger what about expunged records trying to get an option 40 contract
@@TrainLikeaRanger What about getting an option 40 with an expunged felony record? Talking to a recruiter now and says I’m good to go everything looks good, clean record now but is saying I should just go infantry bc if I shoot for option 40 it’ll be a deeper background check and I may not get it so he says to not try it. Any merit to that?
Outstanding. Wish I had this info when I enlisted in 1983. Knowledge is the key
I love that the SOCOM guys actually come to basic and ask for volunteers nowadays. But I don't buy it. Me and about 40 others in Infantry OSUT were told the same thing. And when one guy finally asked, the Sr drill sgt asked how many were told the same thing, we all got dropped for 100. 😆
Oh my god I had no idea the Picat was a thing this is so useful thank you for sharing this information with us.
Very informative! Thank you so much!
Thanks so much for this info man
Man I wish I had this info earlier. Great job
Me too. Like 42 years ago!
Just swore in today!! 92R with option 40. Ship date august 23rd
what the fuck my recruiter told me that they dont give option 40s anymore and you have to get one after basic
@@wyattpavey9217 damn he lied right to ur face
@@wyattpavey9217 no, but rn it’s gonna be hard to get 11B or 68W
@@STB_VET oh allright
@@STB_VET I got an option 40 11x, they tried telling me the same thing. I’m shipping after I graduate college in December.
Great Video
Thank you!
Lol ask Sean Rogers (FNG academy on CZcams) how that went when he listened to his recruiter and signed an option 40 cook contract and got hurt at rasp.
Be patient and wait for the job you want tied to an option 40.
I agree
Oh man, I’m nearing the end of the ADHD waiver process and I’m crossing all my fingers and toes it goes through. I started the waiver process in the autumn of 2019 so it’s coming up on 2 years of getting letters of recommendation, doctor’s notes, school transcripts, etc. Part of that wait time was waiting for me to be off Adderall for 24 months. So keep that in mind, anyone going a similar path, i had to wait to submit the packet until 24 months since I was last on Adderall. It could be different for other people based off of the type of medication and when you were prescribed, I know if you had it as a kid it may be more lenient. I had a prescription for 3 months when I was in college at 22 years old. Be prepared to wait and just always keep the mindset that it’s a marathon, not a sprint
I’m pretty sure I have ADHD but won’t get tested in fear of a diagnosis. As of right now, I can just feign ignorance.
I mean doesn't the recruiter just tell you to lie about that stuff?
How did it go?!?
Dude this is so helpful thank you so much for commenting I’m going through the same thing rn and I’m gonna tell this to my recruiter
I’ve gone through a medical waiver for ADHD and it took me a year to do it. Between going to doctors to get tested, or fetching medical records and prescription records. I’m the ADHD was approved but at meps the doctor flagged me for some cuts on my arms and forearms so now I’m going through that process. Hopefully everything went well for you.
This video was extremely helpful, I'm reenlisting and wanted to know how I would be guaranteed the MOS I wanted and chose.
We are always happy to here that! Thanks for the support! -Jay
From Warrior, Alabama
Great video. Can you do one about 18x? I don't qualify to get an option 40 because I got a physical waiver for my astigmatism.
We covered many topics on this in our podcast with Tom Berhane if you wanna check that out
Question, What if I had surgery on my knee and shoulder a few years ago, but I don't have access to the post op records, can I just get a release form from my current Family Dr or do I need to go see my current Ortho and get an exam and release from the specialist?
Maybe I missed it in the video but if you are prior service from a different branch can you get option 40 on your contract? I have been looking for an answer to this question.
I believe so. Run this question by instagram.com/goarmymidwest and tell them I sent you, they can get you a definite answer on this
Do the Rangers limit your options or try to assign you desk job if you score a 131 GT/98 AFQT?
Question, if I have to get in with a moral waiver for an 11xray contract, can’t I still volunteer at osut for ranger even if I don’t go in with a option 40 contract
He put that cup to his mouth but we all know the cup was empty 😂
😂😂😂 gotta plug in the merch! But nah, it did have some, I usually sip coffee during the podcasts
How does it work for officers? You have to wait until you're an O2 and then ask your CO? (I'm a civilian so forgive any ignorance of how the process actually is)
I had a 3 year 11X guaranteed airborne ranger. My recruiter knew I had braces that were going to be off the day after meps. Needless to say, they failed me and took away my reservation. Now they want me as a 11X with no guarantee's. Any suggestions?
Edit: My question was answered right after I commented.
What's the answer ? I will need a med waiver for having had lymphoma and beating it.
I am scared to try and volunteer for RASP as I could never get it in my first enlistment...
@@Innominat9 the only thing I would suggest is talking to your recruiter and be honest with them and see what they say. They may have waivers for that but I'm not completely sure. I'm sorry I don't have a more solid answer brother.
@@JayDubb3BCT No problem at all. I am waiting for the 75th recruiter's answer (I mailed him a couple days ago) an for SSG Lee's answer (just messaged him on instagram a minute ago).
@@Innominat9 best of luck brother! Hopefully I'll see you in the regiment! RLTW
My AFQT is a 49, I was told that I could not do option 40 because I need a 50. My line scores however are above what is required. Is there a waiver or something that can be done in order to still get the option 40?
Unfortunately not, you will have to get that score up to qualify for an option 40
Check with my friends at instagram.com/goarmymidwest and tell them I sent you. They can give you more options on what you could do
Does anyone know if having metal plate in your foot disqualify you from the option 40 contract
I got a 104 GT score but my recruiter told me the score gets waived when you volunteer after airborne, is this true?
18x [versus] 11x Airborne Ranger
They couldn't secure my 18x is 11x option 40 a good path way towards special forces?
It is important to understand that Ranger and SF are two different things. You have to want to be a Ranger to make it, Ranger is a good place to grow up, but it’s gonna kick your ass. You have to want it and can’t view it as a stepping stone. However, many start Ranger and go SF later, so it is an option, yes.
See my podcast with Tom Berhane who has done both:
czcams.com/video/vS3ZrbACB4U/video.html
What books would I need to read and what Ranger history info do I need to know?
One thing forsure I know is that it’s to get the raner handbook and learn it by heart
Ranger**
They will provide information on Ranger history to you. You can look into stuff like Merrill’s Marauders and Ranger Operations over time (dates and purposes). However, for now I would focus on things like memorizing the Ranger Creed, getting familiar with battle drills, land nav skills, and job knowledge
Got a DUI on my record army recruiter said i cant get an option 40 and have to go in as 11X and volunteer for it after is that true? I want to go in with ranger contract and not wait to volunteer and possibly not get chance too and now am stuck for few years specially since am in my early 30’s.
You could try and get a waiver, but they are not always allowing waivers. You can always try to approach a recruiter at a different station and see what they have to say as well. -Jay
My recruiter is telling me since im enlisting with 11x and i don't have the scores for option 40 i can still volunteer for rasp at Basic/AIT is that true I've asked muliptle people who agreed its true but i guess i just always like to triple check?
that doesnt sound true because if you dont qualify for something before you ship, why would you qualify for it when you're shipped. Maybe they let you test again in ait so you have another possibility. If you're fine going in with 11x with no option 40 then go ahead and have the possiblity of going to rasp, if not then try testing again before you ship
Straight from a liaison: “The short answer is that 11-series MOS personnel are not currently eligible for GT waivers during OSUT. If someone wants to be an 11B/C and doesn’t have the GT score at their recruiting station, they’ll have to improve their GT score at a Regular Army unit before being eligible to apply to attend RASP.”
I want to do the option 40 contract but I have glasses. If I get eye surgery would that be easier than signing a waver having glasses.
No if you get eye surgery before joining the army it will disqualify you. Wait until you get in and have the surgery for free
Nah man you’re fine im pretty sure
Check with my friends at instagram.com/goarmymidwest and tell them I sent you. They can get you an accurate answer for this
Damn I was hoping he would’ve talked a bit about eye sight requirements/ what could or would DQ someone from getting an option 40 the only info I’ve seen is pretty much as long as your vision is correctable to 20/20 you should be good but what about depth perception test? Meps failed me but it seemed like the lady didn’t like me, I’ve never had an issue with anything else but seeing from a distance is blurry a bit without glasses I’m hoping depth percep won’t dq me that’d suck pls lmk
You shouldn't have an issue in terms of an option 40 and always remember almost anything can be waived. I am colorblind for example and I had no issues. -Jay
Trying to get 68w with op40 how’s this gonna be possible for me in the near future I ship December 27th this year
How’s it going
@@kingsttv8956 got 11x op40 going into black phase tomorrow at fort Benning
is it possible to get option 40 as a mid 30s prior service 11B?
They don’t have an age requirement for rasp only 18x so as long as you can meet the 17-21yr standard you’re good
Just got an 85 on my asvab. If I have 2 arrests from 8 years ago for pos of Marijuana, is opt 40 out of the question for me?
Depends on if they are on your record and also how exactly they are on there. -Jay
@@TrainLikeaRanger how can I be a ranger right out of high school?
@@emmanuelawosusi2365 secure an option 40 contract with your local army recruiter. Watch this video for more context
@@TrainLikeaRanger thanks
if I had a felony 14 years ago for theft but got it dropped to midamenor and then expunged. can I still qualify for ranger security clearance or is it a no go period even if its dropped and expunged. I want this so bad.
Let me reach out to a recruiter friend of mine and see if he has a better answer than I do, but I am leaning towards you most likely being okay to get a clearance. We try to avoid to much clearance talk, but I would imagine you would probably be okay for at least some of the levels of clearance. -Jay
@@TrainLikeaRanger thank you so much. I want this more then anything.
I would think so, it’s only a misdemeanor
But your still gonna need a waiver for it
@@johnnydough8924 ok thanks.
can I get a option 40 with a GT of 106
I wont join unless I can get option 40
Hey I am 16 and have moderate red green color deficiency. I can still see vivid red and vivid green? I want a option 40 contract can I still get it ?
Bro I don’t want to crush your dreams but I really do believe that this is a deal breaker for the military. Do more research I’m sorry...
@@nathanpizarro7479 thx for the advice but from what I heard from people who have got the contract is that the army is good as-long as u can see red and green.
@@jaymason9584 good for you man pursue your dreams of being Ranger, I plan on being a Ranger after college 2026. Good luck 👍
@@nathanpizarro7479 well if all things go right. U may be my damn officer one day. I’m joining if I can 2024. Good luck. I appreciate ur words of advice tho.
@Archer see u there
with an Option 40 contract, do soldiers go to Airborne School after Infantry OSUT, and before they go to RASP?
They go to airborne after RASP.
I don't think so.@@VileGlory
@@D2C3R5 To be honest, I'm not 100% sure these days. I do know a few years ago, the switched the order up for airborne school and RASP as well as SFAS.
my bad. you're right - pretty sure they go to Airborne after RASP. My son wants to be an 11B Ranger, but I think we're going to go with an Option 4 contract. Then he'll volunteer for RASP in Airborne School. At least he'll be jump qualified if something goes south in RASP. Keep your options open!
@@VileGloryairborne after RASP because people where going to airborne first then dropping RASP. Option 40 is RASP first now. Son is there now with option 40.. 👍🏼
Is getting a bunion foot surgery or any kind of foot surgery disqualifying?
Some would be, but bunion surgery would be fine. You might not even need any waiver for that. -Jay
@@TrainLikeaRanger What about flat foot? Is that disqualifying from special operations and stuff
@@Intelligince shouldn’t be, but I’d double check with a recruiter -Dan
I spoke to a recruiter in my hometown who said if I got crimanal charges expunged I would qualify . Is this true ? Non violent , non drug related charge btw.
Depends on the exact situation. There is a chance it won’t be a problem and technically if it’s expunged they should not be able to look at it, but it can possibly cause issues with clearances and such down the line
It's for stopping to get gas without permission while on home detention. Spur of the moment thing and I was suppose to have all stops planned out ahead with permission. D felony escape for making an unscheduled stop.
@@cbo-nz4qy that sounds like the dumbest thing i have ever heard honestly. Notyou stopping, but them charging you for something like that.
@@jamestoney2634 yeah It really is ! I unfortunately had no means to fight it beyond what I did so the end result has prevented me from joining the army since I was 19 . Total bullshit.
@@cbo-nz4qy I agree with Toney and your recruiter, should not be an issue. However, you can check with my friends at instagram.com/goarmymidwest tell them I sent you and present this question and they can get you a definite answer.
Can I get option 40 with glasses?
Depends on the level of your eyesight, but yes normally it isn't an issue -Jay
Can u go in the rangers if your 41
Yes it’s possible
Hey man just wondering if you can get a option 40 contract as a civilian
The only way to get it is to do it as a civilian. If you are planning on joining tell your recruiter you are looking to get an Option 40. Sometimes you may have to wait though because they are available sporadically. -Jay
Nah, if you want THAT job don't settle for less. Remember it's 4 years or whatever of your life.
Burnett needs to be straight up with these kids and tell the truth. Your experience was as a 13F it is not comparable to a mechanic in Regiment. You keep selling Regiment as its all what you experienced. Tell them why they are overstrength on 11B,13F and 68W and understength on everything else. Bet you won't make a video about that.
Will be happy to clarify on the confusion. Regardless of SOF, your MOS is the most important aspect of your military experience, so make sure you choose the job you want. I say this all the time. Not sure where you are getting your information on Regimental strength and weaknesses but they are always in demand for many things. That being said, you can also wait for the option 40 if you want, be persistent, get a 2nd and 3rd opinion to be sure, it’s your lives and your careers. If you get things in writing that is always the best option. However, it is important to understand both sides and know not every recruiter is lying when they can’t get you qualified for an option 40. This video is there to help get the recruiter’s side and understand common administrative difficulties, criteria, and limitations for the option 40. We explained many opinions on the subject to provide options for people. For anyone that has any confusion know I host live chats and I answer messages on platforms like Instagram. I also have connections with people in Regimental recruiting and military recruiting that I can refer them to. However, my company and I are not commissioned by the Army and have nothing to gain from anyone’s enlistment. We are just here to help!Hope that eases some confusion.
@@TrainLikeaRanger My info come straight from our regimental strength manager. I'm looking forward to your video where you elaborate on this because I'm tired of getting people coming in who think they are going to be doing line unit stuff and then shocked when they aren't. There needs to be more said about the difference.
@@JesusChrist2000BC I appreciate your concern for recruits. I am in contact with Regiment liaisons directly and when I address anything recruiting and military prep related I aim to be as transparent and honest as possible. If I don’t know an answer, I refer people to real recruiters and liaisons, yes Regimental, that can help. Again, our goal is always to help people, we would gain nothing from misleading anyone.
lol what he said is a scared tactic lol
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