How I Balance Running & Lifting | THE HYBRID BUILD EP5

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  • @kelgbrown007
    @kelgbrown007 Před rokem +276

    The next series: regular to deggler. Put one of your employees that dont really lift, on a 3 month program using your supplements.

    • @cassn9492
      @cassn9492 Před rokem +11

      What a shout! Regular guy, analyse and test him, build a program, build a stack and then execute.

    • @KodaGG
      @KodaGG Před rokem +4

      I’d totally jump on this project if I worked there. Always been a dream of mine to work in fitness but it feels like everytime I’ve tried getting a job in the space people only want someone who’s already jacked up on 6 years of daily training.

    • @jms0313
      @jms0313 Před rokem +9

      Won’t happen because then the focus would be on someone other than Nick Bare. He’s a narcissist surrounded by beta yes-men so it ain’t gonna work

    • @JohnBrown-xk8kb
      @JohnBrown-xk8kb Před rokem +6

      @@jms0313bro how do you even know that lol? Also do you think he would be this far if he was just surrounded by “yes men?” Just asking.

    • @jms0313
      @jms0313 Před rokem

      Has he done one video about something other than him?

  • @plmarshall30
    @plmarshall30 Před rokem +116

    I used to be a heavy lifter at about 205 lbs when I was in my 20's. Now at 50, I am still lifting but not heavy because I run a lot. I can still bench press my own body weight 15 times at 165 and I am alright with that. Keeping bone density and still having more than average strength for a runner is the most important thing for me. Our focus can shift and mine did with age as well as overall joint health. Keep up the great content, you have a great perspective on things and I enjoy your humbleness.

    • @billo3314
      @billo3314 Před rokem +1

      Very smart and commendable approach sir

    • @_andrewpeacock
      @_andrewpeacock Před rokem +1

      I aspire to be you when I’m 50! 🤘🏼🤘🏼

    • @jms0313
      @jms0313 Před rokem

      Your biggest mistake was running. You shortened your lifespan by years

    • @plmarshall30
      @plmarshall30 Před rokem +1

      @@jms0313 Oh I have done more than that to shorten my lifespan!

    • @morelife6508
      @morelife6508 Před rokem +1

      I'm same way. 49. Used to lift heavy and bulked. I'm sitting at around 265 11% now.. although I'm 6'6 and with certain genetics that lean towards being muscular and lean. Even with avg 3-5mile per day runs.

  • @vuongluong3327
    @vuongluong3327 Před rokem +9

    When you ran a 5 minute mile I was amazed and inspired at the same time. It’s nice to see someone that can virtually do it all without looking like an endurance or strength athlete only.

  • @TheStocktonSlab
    @TheStocktonSlab Před rokem +2

    This was super helpful nick! Thank you so much. I’m currently out in Simi valley in recovery on day 25 just getting my bearings back with my morning runs and my strength training. I always knew I was in a good streak from addiction every morning I’d put you on my phone and stream you to my tv while making my morning coffee before runs. Be with you for years. Especially now, im going to be coming back home to my girl and we’re expecting a baby girl we just found out yesterday. So every video right now seems to be tailored to me. Thanks for all inspiration and guidance along the way.

  • @adammiller9179
    @adammiller9179 Před rokem +4

    16:00 "It never gets old." I am right there with you man, I LOVE bulking and eating!! I love the process. This series is perfect because I just started for the exact same goal- the Hybrid Build!

  • @tylerasmith52
    @tylerasmith52 Před rokem +44

    This man is just living the most actualized life possible. When I set up my gym with my brother it is going to be very similar to this. I can’t wait.

    • @killakev9589
      @killakev9589 Před rokem +4

      YEA i mean he's probably cycling a lot of stuff...no way he can have that level of muscle recovery naturally to excel and perform and be lean on top of so many other things.

    • @xlxl1762
      @xlxl1762 Před rokem +1

      @@killakev9589 exactly bro. He at least should be honest about his use but probably won’t since it’ll be bad for his reputation.

    • @NusquamTamenVerum
      @NusquamTamenVerum Před rokem

      @@killakev9589 I believe it is possible without gear

    • @user-zy9yg2eu5t
      @user-zy9yg2eu5t Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@NusquamTamenVerumYou are wrong. The guy is juiced off his tree.

    • @Smogytho
      @Smogytho Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@killakev9589it is possible without gear, stop making excuses. Try it for yourself and fuel yourself properly

  • @tmerkury2813
    @tmerkury2813 Před rokem +8

    One of your guys best videos this years. Editing was amazing, different cool events in one videos, and very informative👍 let’s go one more!

  • @LMACKK
    @LMACKK Před rokem +2

    Priority in what youre training for is really where it comes down to like you said. When I trained for my first half marathon I stopped squatting completely and focused more on machine work/my running workouts becauwe that is what was priority. Thanks for all you do man.

  • @cormacmoran6094
    @cormacmoran6094 Před rokem +2

    Nick , you are an absolute role model. Your videos fuel all my workouts . You have got me in to training endurance events . Just want to say thank you for everything. You really are an inspiring person with unbelievable work rate. Keep it going man 💪

  • @will.lesher
    @will.lesher Před rokem +2

    I’ve been running the build program on playbook, loving it man! Already seeing huge strength increases!

  • @DJ99434
    @DJ99434 Před rokem +6

    Dude outside of how motivated these videos make me, the thing I want to most to work in a place like that… that work environment looks absolutely amazing…

  • @ethicalvegan4852
    @ethicalvegan4852 Před rokem +10

    Thank you for your tips, it helps a lot. I’m a long distance runner, I’ve been running every single day since the 1st of march 2016 ( 6 years, 8 months and 24 days today !) and since 2-3 months I’m also focusing on building muscles seriously, and it works!! Im stronger and even faster than before. Thank you for showing people that YOU CAN build muscles and being a runner, and thank you for the good informations !

    • @SuprEmpth
      @SuprEmpth Před 7 měsíci

      Wow that's amazing! What do you do for a stretching regimen?

  • @clarissafigueroa2308
    @clarissafigueroa2308 Před rokem +1

    Sally is awesome! Her laugh is infectious. I think I was watching an ultra documentary and she was in it, of course. Great content 🎉

  • @tashinahbuchinsky5683
    @tashinahbuchinsky5683 Před rokem +1

    Working at BPN is straight up my dream job. Working out with people as passionate about health and fitness. Supporting and uplifting one another, eating and laughing. Yup. Dream job.

  • @Kiet-Tran
    @Kiet-Tran Před rokem +2

    I can totally resonate with prioritizing training based on goal. Pre-marathon i was squating 275 as a working set, but during training, I was only doing 155 as a working set.

  • @anng2004
    @anng2004 Před rokem +1

    I was so excited to see Sally! Love her!

  • @curtisvo5525
    @curtisvo5525 Před rokem +1

    The content we love to see at work

  • @Enjoytheinbetween
    @Enjoytheinbetween Před rokem +1

    Love the music mix at the end!!!! Makes me want to Go One More!!

  • @brittdullen8501
    @brittdullen8501 Před rokem

    Love these types of episodes!

  • @Nativechippewa
    @Nativechippewa Před rokem +1

    These videos definitely have great info to learn from and I'm always looking to learn to improve! I been doing this same build training essentially. Just because I dont want to be just a muscle bound meat head! I enjoy having the endurance cardio just as much too. The balance is tricky

  • @johncannon3593
    @johncannon3593 Před rokem

    Doing my own hybrid build coming off a layoff and just coming to your channel. I am 3 months in.
    I lift and do Brazilian jiujitsu and some other martial arts. I am starting to add in a little more running I get 3x full-body lifts averaging 30-36 sets each and 3-5 BJJ classes and one run a week (currently only a 5k).
    I am 5'10", 176 lb and about 12% body fat (per calipers).
    Oh, and 50 years old.
    I am retired military, so I've always been in some degree of shape, but I decided upon hitting 50 that I was going to build back better than ever.

  • @MereMortalsBookReviews

    Once again thanks for the information here Nick and team - good to bring this into my own style of training

  • @chaserheinlander356
    @chaserheinlander356 Před rokem +1

    Nothing sweeter than the sound of the classic standard oly plates clanging together.

  • @overlandingtahoe8645
    @overlandingtahoe8645 Před rokem

    I’ve been subscribed before and it seems CZcams had a different plan. Glad to see your content again on my feed

  • @wizard_outdoors_
    @wizard_outdoors_ Před rokem

    Love the ice dip!!! I just broke 40 degrees for the first time yesterday! Great video, as usual!!!

  • @matthewdalton7858
    @matthewdalton7858 Před rokem +27

    Listened to podcast #155 today and I heard what I needed to hear. Ran my first half marathon yesterday, and been contemplating running a full marathon. And for I looked at the date of the marathon I’ve been wanting to run, and I checked your marathon prep schedule on the app. Both 16 weeks. Time to take action!

    • @yellomate-tv2pc
      @yellomate-tv2pc Před rokem +2

      You won't regret running a marathon. I loved the experience.

    • @CorGP
      @CorGP Před rokem +1

      Wilmington NC marathon. Look it up. Hopefully I see you there.

  • @Drew_Warner
    @Drew_Warner Před rokem

    Respect the Build! Loved that quote

  • @chrisjoyce5935
    @chrisjoyce5935 Před rokem +1

    Wow. Sally McRae just spoke to my soul!🙏❤️🙌

  • @isaiahbighorn5725
    @isaiahbighorn5725 Před 9 měsíci

    Cool. I’m about to go on my morning run and I have legs today. I haven’t done legs in a long long time and i finally decided I should do legs last week so it’s cool that I chose to watch this video this morning. Thank you

  • @GMFireMedic
    @GMFireMedic Před rokem

    You absolutely need to drop this tee!!!!!

  • @NFROMTHE10
    @NFROMTHE10 Před rokem

    these eps are class bro

  • @huntersmith1659
    @huntersmith1659 Před rokem

    Such an amazing video of revelations! I love the honesty in this one. Great stuff man. Question... have you ever tried Next Level Diet? I got a muscle-building meal plan from them, and I love it.

  • @boxerjp8276
    @boxerjp8276 Před rokem +13

    TREN hard

  • @broski7864
    @broski7864 Před rokem +1

    If you guys wanna learn about the recovery-Soreness-training info recommend checking out the Andy gaplin and huberman podcast. Nick touched up on it begining of the vid but soreness is not a good measuring factor but it depends on what your trying to do

  • @edot2541
    @edot2541 Před rokem +3

    I’m almost 100% sure Nick is prepping for his first bodybuilding show!!! It’s all adding up.

    • @strider5474
      @strider5474 Před rokem +1

      The Prophet e dot :D if you really didn’t know before you had a good nose as we would say in germany😊

  • @ji5340
    @ji5340 Před rokem +8

    It's a little easier for someone in their 20s and 30s, but I'm in my 50s and I feel it more in my hips when Iift heavy and run alot. Need a week break every now and then to relieve the stress

  • @EthanMcAlpin
    @EthanMcAlpin Před 2 měsíci

    Just listened during my warmup stretch and just before my 10mi long run, I get “You are stronger than you think you are” from Sally. LET’S GOOOOOOO!

  • @jesseaffiliate6328
    @jesseaffiliate6328 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Great vids! I used to be powerlifter and sort of power bodybuilder, started when I was 13 years, body weight 52kg, bb 20kg, deadlift sub 70 (😁), after seven hard hard months I got 110kg bench and 190kg deadlift @8079kg . After next+19 years I gone to 200kg raw bench and "easy" 300kg deadlift (was about to take pr, one rep max but did two and that was weirdly light). I wasnt fat*****, sub 10% BF @110KG but my general health wasnt good. My Stamina endurance and aerobic base wasnt good enough to run 400m .
    Two years ago I decided to hunt my younghood track and field Records and run as much as possible. First year was tuff and my body weight just gone higher and higher (to 135kg) and I was able to run 10% of planned miles, had LOTS of pain and generally horrible mood. I have always known how horrible stuff dairy products and especially meat is and seen how scientific facts are 👍👍(surprise!?) but decided again and again to test "one more normal healthy diet" before testing vegan only. Finally I decided I am vegan as long as I see how I will be the very first athlete without getting edge but after 110 months I dont even think about eating those cancer catabolic meats and fish etc bs. I feel like I ld be 19yo again beside I recover much much faster and basically I can do multiple times more cardio strongman events Crossfit and much more, I dont need+7h sleep or coffeine or anything and whats even better, my blood tests look great finally. My testosterone and thyroid levels were always low, vegetable+other cheaty stuff makes those to be on normal level and above 👍👍 its weird how we have some coaches on high level (maybe the reason why our commie Finnish athletes are so bad)claims mixed diet, maybe even high meat and dairy junk eating to be "ok" or sometimes even "good" 😮😮😮 healthy meat is as legit as peaceful and loving putler (putin) . Almost like slavery party aka kkk party demoncratic party standing for minorities and being nice+tolerate 🧐😁 . Ps; I dont endorse Trump but If he would Be racist and not being great for black people and more, he. wouldnt be republican, republicans were so nasty after civil war because democrats couldnt continue keeoing their economies standing on good old dnc cotton fields anymore. Little bit later nasty GOP tried to oppose KKK party (every third in the house were member of the clan) . Hopefully they won't start their third r***** based on woke racism and neo apartheid 😅

  • @evanpatrick7022
    @evanpatrick7022 Před rokem

    We need to see a compilation of Nick experiencing pure bliss when taking the first bite of his food.

  • @Inzaneinthemembrane
    @Inzaneinthemembrane Před 11 měsíci

    Nick, this series has been great series. Thank you. I’m in a position where I’m in a shot plus lifting and loving it but would also like to drop my times to ace my service’s PFT/CFT. Any thoughts as to what you would suggest for runs to drop 3 mile and 1/2 mile times while staying in the gym? Thanks.

  • @ulyssesgabriel1857
    @ulyssesgabriel1857 Před rokem +3

    the song at the end is called: And Th3 Music Was Loud

  • @_middleside
    @_middleside Před rokem +1

    Great to see Sally make a cameo

  • @Demiduivenvoorden
    @Demiduivenvoorden Před rokem

    That Friday afternoon lift 🤩

  • @andrewcoover3636
    @andrewcoover3636 Před rokem

    Love the content in this video. One of my major issues is trying to build muscle while playing a sport (hockey). Once I start progressing building muscle I notice I’m having less mobility and notice some slacking in my games. Any way to structure my workouts/sports/nutrition in order to minimize the interference of the muscle build?

  • @tomg_2
    @tomg_2 Před rokem

    The ice bath and sauna are awesome

  • @cole1096
    @cole1096 Před rokem +2

    Is that t shirt you wore in training “if it matters you’ll make time” unreleased?! I want to purchase one for myself, I like that quote.

  • @keenanschwarting1571
    @keenanschwarting1571 Před rokem +1

    Do you have a mobility routine that you do to stay flexible and reduce injuries?

  • @ogebogi
    @ogebogi Před rokem

    I'm hyping the end of that video for sure. Rock on!

  • @clodge54
    @clodge54 Před rokem

    Must know what that song is at the end! Awesome video

  • @guustvanuden2968
    @guustvanuden2968 Před rokem +1

    Man got a new job where i walk and lift heavy. its hard to keep up with the food i need. i feel like the only thing i do is eat when i can. my performance is still diminishing.
    this video keeps me motivated though, if ones body can adopt to ultra marathons mine can do heavy work and training. Long road to go where i will lose alot of muscle before i can gain strength again

  • @kolekraft145
    @kolekraft145 Před rokem +4

    Nick would you mind going over how you setup your caloric intakes / macro requirements?

    • @jms0313
      @jms0313 Před rokem +1

      It’s called Drugs

  • @T.Robinson1719
    @T.Robinson1719 Před rokem

    Growth isn't by chance, it's by choice!!

  • @adamperry_
    @adamperry_ Před rokem +10

    I would give anything to be on this team... Great Video Nick, Uly & Jordan!

    • @jms0313
      @jms0313 Před rokem

      Beta male vibe

    • @xlxl1762
      @xlxl1762 Před rokem +3

      @@jms0313 bro who even used beta or alpha? What are we? In twilight and we a pack of wolves? Goofy ah. I do agree he sounds corny as hell lol. Bare is obviously on gear but I respect his grinding mindset.

    • @morelife6508
      @morelife6508 Před rokem

      @Xl Xl facts. You have to respect the grind.
      I see guys on grams of gear and still look like out of shape unhealthy red faced clowns.

  • @DenisH9
    @DenisH9 Před rokem +1

    I think I heard on the Hubberman podcast that cold plunges right after lifting/running workouts aren't an optimal training method (vs doing it later in the day or hours before the workout).

  • @Jennarm
    @Jennarm Před rokem +1

    Sally is the best 👏🏼

  • @PROTOTYPZ
    @PROTOTYPZ Před rokem

    Is the shirt that Nick wore at the start still on sale? That is my first time seeing it and its sweet.

  • @BLACKNOY0979
    @BLACKNOY0979 Před rokem

    They HYBRID build! Sheeeessshhh

  • @weich1q2w
    @weich1q2w Před rokem

    I been lifting legs 3x a week and that’s been good. I was walking multiple times a day along with that. Couple weeks ago added in interval sprints couple times a week and now my knees and low back hurt when I do legs. I guess I just ran to much to quickly so hopefully I get past it

  • @charlesdetwiler6338
    @charlesdetwiler6338 Před rokem

    Nick what is the brand /model number for your Hack Squat Machine? looking to add to my home gym.

  • @maryanncalvio5409
    @maryanncalvio5409 Před rokem +1

    What is your rest time between sets of BB squats?

  • @andreas5592
    @andreas5592 Před rokem +2

    Hey Nick, who is the poor guy running with you filming in the same time? That's a true hero!

    • @drewheidl3727
      @drewheidl3727 Před rokem +2

      they use electronic skateboards

    • @andreas5592
      @andreas5592 Před rokem

      @@drewheidl3727 haha! I didn't think of this at all!

  • @dylanroy8778
    @dylanroy8778 Před rokem +2

    No isolated core workouts during hybrid build?! I see on the app you haven’t don’t leg raises or any an/core workout like you typically did in the past. Any reason why?

  • @C_ptain
    @C_ptain Před rokem

    BrotherBare, if training in the evening and into the nights
    what does your morning routine look like ?

  • @Coachtommyyau
    @Coachtommyyau Před rokem

    What the song title for the last section ? Solid man

  • @BradFizer
    @BradFizer Před rokem +1

    Will you be at the Arnold expo?

  • @joseugarte3171
    @joseugarte3171 Před rokem

    I strive to balance running, lifting and boxing. What is all that strength if you cant run? What is all that speed and strength if you cant fight? So keep up all of it.

  • @kylepullin3670
    @kylepullin3670 Před rokem

    lmao spot layne's painted fingernails. love that guy.

  • @roychiu4263
    @roychiu4263 Před rokem

    may I ask how old are you? It's amazing to see such a big guy who can finish marathon in 2:50.

  • @leoponciajr2014
    @leoponciajr2014 Před rokem

    does anyone can tell me the point of exhausting your quads before squats vs starting with the squats the moving to an isolation exercise? thanks

  • @Adrian-pi6kw
    @Adrian-pi6kw Před rokem +1

    You teach us how to diet when you are already in shape and that’s good but what about those that are not in shape and don’t know where to begin?🤷🏻‍♂️ any advise?

  • @emorycothen7702
    @emorycothen7702 Před rokem

    Where can I get that shirt at the beginning of the video? 🔥

  • @marwan88jo
    @marwan88jo Před rokem

    The best part of Nick Bare's videos is that no one on his team wears an Apple watch. They are professionals :)

  • @riccardolombard6980
    @riccardolombard6980 Před 22 dny

    Hi, i also gym and training for first marathon. Do you feel that lifting heavy on legs and running is actually a good thing because it will be difficult to run but your body will adapt to that and then when you get close to the marathon you cut legs training drastically and then you will be running with fresh legs and it will be easier. Do you feel that is a good strategy or am I completely wrong?

  • @_salkin
    @_salkin Před rokem

    Greetings from 🇩🇪

  • @fosterfilms5290
    @fosterfilms5290 Před rokem +1

    Love your content. sometimes Im going good on the hybrid programs and I just a 3-4 day slippery slope..Whats your best way to bounce back?

    • @jasonmassa6318
      @jasonmassa6318 Před rokem

      Just gotta find the discipline to stick to it. It is hard, I’ve fallen off a bunch in previous years, take the first step wether it’s putting on the shoes for a run or taking the preworkout…the rest usually falls into place.

    • @JadenFeddock
      @JadenFeddock Před rokem

      I love the ‘never miss twice’ thought process, like if you have to miss a day it’s no big deal, but you promis yourself you won’t miss two days in a row! Then when you get back at it you can keep your habit strong! Works for me, might be worth a shot! Cheers :)

  • @SuprEmpth
    @SuprEmpth Před 7 měsíci

    This was a great video. Also makes me want a crop top lol

  • @drewheidl3727
    @drewheidl3727 Před rokem

    How many times can I run in a week while still prioritizing lifting and muscle mass?

  • @nathan8282
    @nathan8282 Před rokem

    How do I get that t shirt? It's not on nick's site.

  • @ryanleemorrison4496
    @ryanleemorrison4496 Před rokem +1

    So do you run and train everyday?

  • @invisibleliberty2275
    @invisibleliberty2275 Před rokem

    I was wondering how do you have the time? Currently working 10 hours a day in a production environment. I only have time to do one workout per day. I was wondering if anyone could give me some tips. I have been doing the build program, but keep hitting a wall.

  • @techlaw997
    @techlaw997 Před rokem

    What brand/model of ice bath do you have?

  • @cleaningcrue
    @cleaningcrue Před rokem

    Was that "Hangin' Tough", by NKOTB?

  • @jonnyf1354
    @jonnyf1354 Před rokem

    how do you deal with loads on your knees?

  • @drmcmast
    @drmcmast Před rokem

    I train in Chucks too!!!

  • @chasemorris9052
    @chasemorris9052 Před rokem

    So many new faces at HQ!

  • @joshuaklesel8177
    @joshuaklesel8177 Před rokem

    Put the safety bars up when you squat!!! I know you know what you're doing. It's clear you are an absolute professional at what you do. However I do know that I tend to push a weeeee bit harder knowing I'm absolutely protected. Nothing worse than having to bail on a heavy heavy squat.

  • @3beardsandaboss641
    @3beardsandaboss641 Před rokem

    How to you keep your abs shed during the bulk

  • @ChristianDossett
    @ChristianDossett Před rokem

    OUTRO MUSIC: "WHAT IS THIS MELODY?!?"

  • @jasonmccormack
    @jasonmccormack Před rokem +1

    Hey Nick, I’m learning how to use a Garmin. I’m wondering about that recovery metric - it doesn’t seem to care about lifting sessions. I’ve been working on lifting, running, swimming and how to balance. How do you plan on you recovery? Especially before a race*

    • @JadenFeddock
      @JadenFeddock Před rokem +2

      Hey Jason! My two cents… the recovery time is based on your HR during the workout, so stuff like running will give more consistently high recovery windows… I’ve seen others be successful by using a chest HR monitor during gym sessions so the watch gets a better sense of your real HR changes during the workout!
      Cheers!

    • @jasonmccormack
      @jasonmccormack Před rokem +1

      @@JadenFeddock Thanks for the tip!
      That makes great sense.

  • @probablypondering1657
    @probablypondering1657 Před 4 měsíci +1

    People say he is on gear have zero clue the impact years of a healthy diet running can have on your ability to lift volume and recover effectively.

  • @chrisgleesonx
    @chrisgleesonx Před rokem

    Anyone know the name of the remix at the end ?

  • @candenjmosley
    @candenjmosley Před 7 měsíci

    7:41 per mile after a heavy leg day is insane. Even if it was after a rest day that’s a great pace

  • @mrpiggiesman101
    @mrpiggiesman101 Před rokem

    What is the song at the end?

  • @anildegirmenci6908
    @anildegirmenci6908 Před 2 měsíci

    Hey Folks, does anyone know the song dropping in in 9:25?

  • @justinchamberlain3443

    This is what natural w/ good genes that I guess is running a mile under 6min looks like. Respect

  • @keatonteeft2451
    @keatonteeft2451 Před rokem

    Can we still purchase that shirt?

  • @owenhochuli7965
    @owenhochuli7965 Před rokem

    We gotta see another Strongman (Brian Shaw) full day of eating challenge!

  • @gokublack5831
    @gokublack5831 Před 21 dnem

    My question is can i run 30 minutes everyday while lifting heavy without losing muscle will i? I thought no but its getting merky but i dont know ?

  • @ogebogi
    @ogebogi Před rokem

    Idaho instant potatoes are the jam.

  • @huntermarkey
    @huntermarkey Před rokem +1

    Cold plunging in within 4 hours of your workout helps recovery but hurts your gains