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  • čas přidán 7. 04. 2015
  • I realize some may need a more detailed video for this sort of thing. I'm actually wiring in the dummy coil this time so you can follow along. It's still very simple:-)

Komentáře • 117

  • @ZeGlob1
    @ZeGlob1 Před rokem +9

    ok.. for those who don't understand how it works, it's actually extremely simple : Your pickups capture the strings sound AND the electromagnetic interferences that causes hum (which are only picked up by the coil itself). Basically, if you put 2 pickups together, you'll this :
    if the 2 pickups are in phase, both pickups will add their signal and hum, and you'll get twice as loud ... meaning twice as loud hum !
    Now, if you invert the leads of the second pickup (so it DOES matter !! ), they'll get out of phase : you will have phase cancelation meaning that the signal AND the hum of the second pup will be subtracted from the first pickup.. in theory.. you would get almost NO sound at all .. because you're cancelling both the signal AND the hum. (in reallity, there's still a bit of sound coming through)
    Now.. if the second pup doesn't have its magnet (hence the dummy coil).. it won't be able to capture the sound of the strings at all.. meaning it will only capture the hum through its coil..
    So.. when out of phase, you'll get
    Signal + Hum - Hum = Signal
    while if in phase, you'll get Signal + 2xHum !!
    Hope that clarifies

    • @aifrmedia
      @aifrmedia Před 9 měsíci

      brilliant

    • @theleftymonster
      @theleftymonster Před 7 měsíci +1

      I was reading comments and waiting to see if anyone is going to say it. Sure enough you did and you did it well. That’s why I love the internet. We are all learning from each other. Thank you both for the video and the comment.

  • @icaruswill
    @icaruswill Před 5 lety +16

    well, I do not even have the words to describe how I feel right now, man. It's exactly 3:30 in the morning and when I saw your video I had to go test, I spent exactly 8 years playing with stratocasters and always loathing the damn noise they made, and today I just spent the night awake looking for a solution, already was almost giving up and going to sleep when your video was the last and the most important of all, thank you for this brilliant class!

  • @mutleysnicker
    @mutleysnicker Před 3 lety +2

    Just wanted to say Thanks!! My Tele was so noisy less it was in the middle of the switch. Did exactly what you did with an old pickup and it's darn quiet with any pickup selected now!! wooohooo Thx Man!!!!

  • @toneconsultant
    @toneconsultant Před 6 lety +6

    I sort of said you did a poor job on the last video on this. I had youtube continually running and this came up. I need to apologize. You realized how you went through it a bit fast and now you're correcting it. That's pretty cool. Good job to the detail.

  • @jedishaw6771
    @jedishaw6771 Před 3 lety +8

    Just did this today! I wind my own pickups though! So wound a set without the reverse wound reverse polarity middle all the same wind direction! Wound my own dummy coil as well, works a treat!! No noise at all!!! Thanks for the great video!! Thanks for the inspiration!!!

    • @outerbanks854
      @outerbanks854 Před 8 měsíci

      So you wound all 3 pickups in the same direction as your dummy coil?

    • @Jonathan_Doe_
      @Jonathan_Doe_ Před 5 měsíci

      What happens in the 2 and 4 positions though? Isn’t the coil the wrong impedance to cancel 2 pick ups in parallel?
      A better way might be to stick with the RWRP middle, and somehow wire it to have the dummy coil out of circuit in position 2 and 4, and in circuit, but out of phase in the middle position.

    • @jedishaw6771
      @jedishaw6771 Před 5 měsíci

      Sorry didn't explain my pickups did I, ooops! My single coil pickups are a different design not like any other, genuine single coils but quite with no rwrp middle pickup, just used a dummy coil to see if it would thicken up the tone, which it did. My single coils are quiet in every position anyway.

    • @jedishaw6771
      @jedishaw6771 Před 5 měsíci

      It alway amazes my when people say they wind there own pickups but just copy everyone else? Even use the same old bobbins?

    • @jedishaw6771
      @jedishaw6771 Před 5 měsíci

      You can wind all the same direction, but it's how you wire them up.

  • @alti_gottem
    @alti_gottem Před 5 lety +6

    I love your videos man, I've learned basically everything I know about repairing or upgrading my guitars from watching your channel. Big thumbs up!

  • @RobbNemo1975
    @RobbNemo1975 Před 8 lety +8

    legend !!! did this the other day , played my strat at a gig last night , not a single buzz !!! thank you sir :)

    • @BadMotivator66
      @BadMotivator66 Před 8 lety

      +robb nemo hi, did you use the reverse middle coil, or not? does it matter? please answer! thanks

    • @RobbNemo1975
      @RobbNemo1975 Před 8 lety +3

      just an old neck single coil ' works perfectly :)

  • @gcsruppert
    @gcsruppert Před 9 lety +19

    Hi +Woodeso's Guitar Mods .. Congrats for your videos. I installed a dummy coil in my guitar too. I have some comments to improve it:
    1. The schematic you teach is not the best. You put the dummy coil between the switch and the volume pot, however this work good only when you have a master tone knob (as shown in the schematics you used). When you have separate tone knobs like most strats do, then you end up having a lot of noise when you roll off the tone. That happens because you are filtering just the signal from the pickup, but leaving unfiltered the noise from the dummy coil. The CORRECT way is to place the dummy coil in replace of the black wire that connects one side of the switch to the other (in case of the schematic). In the case of your switch, that would be pins 4 and 5. Then you can have a regular strat wiring with separate tone knobs with no noise when you roll off the tones.
    2. I used a cheap chinese pickup as a dummy coil. I removed the ceramic magnet from the back and removed the pole pieces. These pole pieces are not magnetic. However, without the polepieces, the noise reduction was insignificant. But when I put the pole pieces back, then the dummy coil really worked. So, for dummy coils made from ceramic pickups, its better to leave the poles. For alnico pickups, you have no option.
    3. You guitar don't have a RWRP middle pickup and, in this case, the dummy coil will work for all 5 positions. However, most Fender strats have a middle RWRP pickup and then the dummy coil will only work for positions 1 and 5. The other positions will be noisier. In this case, you need a DPDT switch or push-pull knob to enable/disable the dummy coil.
    4. For those who have fender standard alnico pickups, you can undo the RWRP pickup just by reversing the pole pieces and the wire leads. However, this only works for those pickups that have a plastic bobin, otherwise you will damage you pickups.
    Hope these comments will help everybody.

    • @magmaman641
      @magmaman641 Před 7 lety +1

      You posted this a year ago, but do you have a schematic of how to wire it the way you did? That would be helpful for me.

    • @querlissilva102
      @querlissilva102 Před 7 lety

      Friend his approach was quite interesting. I just did not buy where to insert the false pickup.

    • @Gabetorres1976
      @Gabetorres1976 Před 5 lety +1

      Interesting! I followed this video exact and still have hum, I’m going to try with the poles still attached to see if this does the trick!

    • @minus9us677
      @minus9us677 Před 5 lety +1

      Gabe Torres u could reverse the wires perhaps. u wiring it series or parallel?

    • @Gabetorres1976
      @Gabetorres1976 Před 5 lety +1

      minus 9us I tried reversing and with pole pieces but same results...so I chucked the idea.

  • @mattsworld7943
    @mattsworld7943 Před 9 lety +1

    In order for the dummy coil to work, electrically it must cancel the hum. So if when wiring in series between the volume pot and switch you find that it's not cancelling the hum. Just wire it the other way round :-) very easy to check while you've got the guitar apart for the installation. Great videos matey and the only one I've found so far. I've been contemplating installing something like this in my Revelation Jazzmaster with P90's

    • @WoodesosGuitarMods
      @WoodesosGuitarMods  Před 9 lety +4

      Yeah I've seen the schematics to go with a switch. I intentionally made this 'how to', as easy as possible. I may do a follow up with a switch. But honestly, I don't know why you'd ever want to shut it off:-) For my ear, none of the Strats I've done have had their 'tone' significantly changed. Nothing I can hear anyway. And the hum is gone. So for me a switched one is just unnecessary work, parts and tonally speaking:-)

    • @TooSlowTube
      @TooSlowTube Před 8 lety

      Would just flipping the coil over have the same effect as wiring it the other way or is it the direction of the coil that counts (i.e. clockwise vs anticlockwise wind - which stays the same when you flip it over)?
      Noise on my single coil guitars is very directional. Rather than there being one direction that noise comes from, there's usually just one direction that it doesn't come from - which makes me wonder if pointing the axis of the coil at the noise source is when it's quietest.
      I'm guessing the dummy coil is not just being used as an inductor here - it must be picking up the interference source, so presumably what we want is it to be wired or orientated so that the signal in that coil cancels out the one picking up the vibration from the strings.
      It's not quite the same situation as in a humbucker because only of of the coils is picking up the strings. I guess the noise cancellation works the same way, but the second coil in a humbucker is presumably wired / orientated specifically to cancel the hum instead of doubling it.
      I've ordered a cheap coil to give this a go, but my single coil guitars don't have pick plates - they're kind of built by keyhole surgery. This seems more practical than trying to screen them with copper though.

  • @gjw45
    @gjw45 Před 9 lety +2

    You have some very interesting things on your channel. I've been watching the video and forgetting to like them :(
    Very different from most other channels.

  • @BeesWaxMinder
    @BeesWaxMinder Před 2 lety +2

    1)do you still use Dummy Coils?
    2)is it better if the resistance is more or less on the dummy coil compared to a single pickup?
    3)is parallel better than series?
    THANKS👍

  • @georgeback_de
    @georgeback_de Před rokem +1

    Mhh, I just bought a Jimi Hendrix Strat with 3 American Vintage 65 Single Coils and a five-way switch. First thing I did, was to add tone control for the bridge pickups. Works fine. Second was to install a dummy coil. I used an old fender single coil, removed the magnets and wired it up according to your video here. Unfortunately, I hear no difference. There is still a loud hum with a mid-sized gain on my amp. Within the installation process, I removed the dc again, I also changed the direction of the wires. What did I do wrong? In the internet I found that: "That a dummy suppresses noise, the most important thing is that its winding direction is opposite to that of the pickup, which is connected to the dummy. The direction can be changed by reversing the poles of the dummy." I don't understand this. What I have to do here? Thanks George

  • @giffimarauder
    @giffimarauder Před rokem

    I want to give another solution⛑, where Your's might have no effect for whatsoever reason our guitars may differ, because it sadly failed on mine.
    My current experience with a Squier Affinity Strat FMT HSS MN SSB setup:
    humbucker about 8.7K, middle (rwrp) and neck pickup about 5.9K, dummy coil about 3.7K, all ceramic ones, using crocodile clips for the dummy coil and keep the guitar opened up without strings and vibrato block, dummy coil is always mounted between switch and pots.
    After restoring the factory configuration I connected one end of the dummy coil to ground and the other end to the volume pot where the 5 way switch is connected to. It drastically reduces the hum more for either the neck or the middle pickup depending on which end of the dummy coil is connected to ground. But it's also adding a little hiss and adds hum to the humbucker as expected.
    The only thing that is left to do now is to find a smart solution to install a tone pot with a switch for turning on and off the dummy coil and the smart part with the correct polarity for the selected neck or middle pickup...

  • @repairmen2682
    @repairmen2682 Před 7 lety +1

    great vid, phasing is an issue but easily fixed, but bro you need to clean your soldering tip more often, makes the iron work hotter,,,

  • @donald-parker
    @donald-parker Před 9 lety +4

    I think you kind of missed a few things. First you say "it doesn't matter which side you wire to which side". It sure does. The whole concept is that noise induced current in the dummy coil is out of phase with the real pickup so it tends to be self cancelling. If it is in phase it just adds to the noise. The other potentially missed concept is that some strats have their middle pickup with reverse wound coil and reverse phased magnets. So when your pickup selector is in BM or MN positions (positions 2 or 4 of a 5 position switch), the signals from the pickups are inphase, but the induced noise is out of phase and therefore cancelling. In those positions (and M alone) you want to remove the dummy coil. Or use a DPDT with centre off and be able to switch your dummy coil polarity between B and N and M positions and remove it from the circuit entirely for the BM MN positions.

    • @WoodesosGuitarMods
      @WoodesosGuitarMods  Před 9 lety +3

      Donald Parker Hi Donald. Please forgive my approach here, but I'm genuinely baffled by what you're saying. I've wired up 6-7 ones like this and they all WORK. Hum gone. So...??
      If there's no magnet, there's no polarity to worry about. The coil begins and ends. What difference would it make which end is connected to which? That's like saying it makes a difference which way you install a speaker cable. This coil has been stripped of what makes it a pickup. This it's just a really, really long copper wire. Why would it matter which end of that copper wire is connected to which end??

    • @donald-parker
      @donald-parker Před 9 lety +2

      There are many factors at play here. If your experiments "worked" it was either because you were lucky or (more likely I suspect) you mistook the high end roll off for noise reduction. Since annoying audible noise is usually higher frequency, noise is reduced, but not because of a humbucker effect. You might as well have just backed off the tone control a bit. Here is a well written and accurate article that should help: www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/pickups.php.
      It's got nothing to do with magnets. The noise comes from pickup windings acting as an antenna. The idea is to have two antenna's picking up the same signal, and add them out of phase so they cancel. So not only does winding direction matter, but physical orientation does too. Ever notice if you are playing in a noisy environment and you turn your body you can change the volume of the noise? Face one way and it is really loud. Make a 90 degree turn and it goes away. Physical orientation of the antenna with respect to the signal greatly impacts how much signal is picket up. Remember TV antenna rotors??? So the most effective approach for a dummy coil is to MAKE SURE IT IS PHYSICALLY ORIENTED THE SAME WAY as your real pickup. In your approach the dummy and the real pickups are almost at right angles and therefore pretty much useless when it comes to noise cancellation (however, the additional reactive impedance that causes high end roll off has nothing to do with physical orientation, so that effect will remain unchanged).
      And, BTW, if you have two stereo speakers and their cables are reversed, the sound will suffer as the waveforms generated by each speaker will be out of phase and tend to cancel each other in the air as they propagate towards the listener. It IS important to make sure you respect "Red" vs "Black" when wiring speakers, any time more than one speaker is involved.

    • @WoodesosGuitarMods
      @WoodesosGuitarMods  Před 9 lety +9

      Thanks fir all that my man. Like I say in the video. I'm going off schematics on Google. So I've pieced this together myself. Like I said, it seems to have worked. But not exactly the way you suggest.
      First... there is no tonal difference. None, I can hear.
      Second, the pickups are totally and completely silent. Not a peep. None of mine anyway.
      3rd. What I meant about speaker cables wasn't Positive an Negative terminals being reversed. But simple the direction of the cable. So it was a poorly explained analogy. But essentially, I can't see why having one side or the other connect would make a lick of difference. The coil begins in spot and ends in another. If I test resistance, it's the same no matter which end I'm connected to. Either way I get 7.28 on the pickup for resistance.
      After see your comment, I began to wonder if I was wrong. But I can't work out why? So I went into my guitar, reversed the order the leads were connected and it came out sounding exactly the same??
      Now, please don't misunderstand. I'm not having a go at you. I'm very much welcoming your sort of comment. I appreciate being corrected. It helps me do better work and make wiser decisions based on what's actually correct. So I do very much appreciate this discussion. Just forgive my (what may seem like) aggressive and unfiltered approach. I don't mean anything by my tone. I just cut straight to it:-)

    • @bahusofriends5467
      @bahusofriends5467 Před 6 lety +1

      sorry dear fellow musician, i build guitars, used to do this for a living and i´m pensioned now.......still build one from time to time and i know it does make a difference, sometimes clearly audible and sometimes not. don´t ask me why! i never understood why it works one case and fails the other.....maybe it matters if you use start of the coil as signal entry and end of coil as signal out, like on all other pickups or you go the other way round with the dummy coil and start input on the end of the coil and output on start of the coil.
      like i said, i don´t know why this makes a difference but sure it sometimes does and sometimes it does not.
      don´t know why. just try for yourself.

    • @camerongoodwin1319
      @camerongoodwin1319 Před 6 lety +1

      Agreed... So what you mean is the middle pickup when reverse wound as many are now days runs through that configuration would DOUBLE the hum or at least make it worse... in theory...

  • @jeffreyburton7284
    @jeffreyburton7284 Před 5 lety +1

    Okay, I'm hoping I've got this right. In order for this to work and not have to care about reverse winding, all pickups have to be wound in the same direction. Correct? Also I'm assuming this setup would work with P-90s providing the pickups are wound the same direction. Correct? Thanks.

  • @nealo814
    @nealo814 Před 4 lety +1

    Do all the pickup have to be same direction so clockwise and no reverse wind in middle?

  • @DrMtz
    @DrMtz Před 8 lety +1

    Hi, the the dummy p wrapped in aluminum tape helps or without the magnets is irrelevant?, Tks.

  • @1972rickster
    @1972rickster Před 3 lety +1

    Ok so I tried this and I followed your instructions meticulously and when I plugged it in there was no success, the guitar was exactly the same as before I started with the exact same buzz and noise as before. I'm not sure what went wrong but I think it may be because I have a modified bridge pick up already installed, it's a dimarzio chopper humbucker in a single coil size to fit without having to make any mods to my pick guard etc...could this be why it hasn't worked???

  • @michaeld.mcclish
    @michaeld.mcclish Před 2 lety +1

    I’m thinking of doing this. Couldn’t I just pull one side of the red wire,say, from the volume pot, and then solder one wire from the dummy to the red wire and the other to the volume lug I pulled it from? That would be only one connection unsoldered and the coil inserted in between the red wire and vol. lug? Thanks for this. I know nothing about electronics.

  • @michaeld.mcclish
    @michaeld.mcclish Před 2 lety

    I'm one of those who don't know really anything about electronics, but I can follow directions. Thanks for this. Does that mean that all this "shield the cavity, paint the cavity with shielding paint" is essentially a waste of time to kill hum? Using the dummy coil will work for any hum that might come out of the neck or bridge pickup? Jeez. What about p90's? Can you wire in a dummy coil the same way to two p90's in a guitar and get the same result? I saw a video with a guy who supposedly developed the Humbucker, and he said right away that the second coil was introduced to kill hum in the p90's(back in the 50's when the hb came out). If we don't need to shield the cavity and just put in a dummy coil that would sure save a lot of wasted effort. All I can say is Jeez.

  • @alexhenderson8356
    @alexhenderson8356 Před 8 lety +4

    I did not work for me. I have a Squier Standard. I Bought a 6K single coil, removed magnet, removed poles, tested pup to make sure it was still good after magnet removal. it still read about 6K ohms. I found the wire going from switch to volume pot, removed it and placed the two coil leads in those solder joints on the pot and switch and voila'. Nothing happened. I still have the same level of hum as before. I am very disappointed. Any suggestions? I was so hoping this would work for me, I detest single coil hum. Please help. I did as you said. I am not a total dummy. I took high school electronics and I can solder and read an ohm meter.

    • @BadMotivator66
      @BadMotivator66 Před 8 lety

      +Alex Henderson try wiring the leads the opposite way around

    • @alexhenderson8356
      @alexhenderson8356 Před 8 lety

      +Bad Motivator I should have mentioned that I tried reversing polarity, Hum always present. I also tried shielding a Strat and that didn't work either. What did work was buying Hot Rails. I know. They are humbuckers that fit into a single coil cut out. The hum is gone. That is a step forward. Thanks anyhow.

    • @BadMotivator66
      @BadMotivator66 Před 8 lety

      :/ thans for sharing! mgiht have saved my the trouble of trying haha. tho shielding has worked for me in the past

    • @minus9us677
      @minus9us677 Před 5 lety

      the direction of the actual windings dictate the ability to cancel hum. same direction and it wont be effective. i wire them series and not parallel

  • @anthonymiller3970
    @anthonymiller3970 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you 😊

  • @yadibrap
    @yadibrap Před 2 lety

    Wow.. this is what i looking for. I will try this hope its work

  • @DavianSinner
    @DavianSinner Před rokem

    Since it doesn't act to pick up sound I wonder if you could make your own coil. It's just copper wire wrapped around something. If you don't have a spare around.

  • @TazoAmaral
    @TazoAmaral Před 6 lety +3

    Man... why you dont use the bobine prepared in the last video? 🤔

  • @jonathanpayant5423
    @jonathanpayant5423 Před 9 lety +3

    There are tons of reasons why you may need a switch. If your middle pickup is RWRP, you will double your hum in middle position, and if positions 2 & 4 cancel hum, you will now have someback..

  • @Bardo.
    @Bardo. Před 6 lety +2

    does this works on a Gibson especial with P 90 single coil pick ups?

  • @nicholaswoolfenden5254

    Interesting Thankyou. Obviously polarity is no issue as dummy coil has no magnets. However it would seem to mee you are adding the DC resistance of the dummy coil to the circuit increasing output no?

  • @oscarpauly
    @oscarpauly Před rokem

    Hello! I am trying to install a dummy coil on my PRS Silver Sky. I got a spare single coil pickup, and removed the pole pieces and the magnet bar. I installed it, but the pickup is somehow still catching some RF interference, since the overall noise is not being cancelled and there is a noticeable change when I move the dummy coil. I tried with series and parallel configurations, but still the same problem. Do you know what could be causing this? Thanks!

  • @jeffreyburton7284
    @jeffreyburton7284 Před 5 lety

    I think I'm starting to get this. The dummy coil works to silence hum because it adds a 4th coil as you would have with two humbucker pickups. Am I right? And could there be phase or other issues depending which way the pickups are wound? Should all the pickups be wound in one direction???

  • @toninho8340
    @toninho8340 Před rokem

    I AM Brasil, thank you very much, i understand how it works

  • @boxerfencer
    @boxerfencer Před 3 lety +2

    For that to work, doesnt the dummy pickup need to be in the reverse direction than the others? I imagine so, and can't see this working any other way, but it wasn't brought up.

    • @MrBoze-TicoCR
      @MrBoze-TicoCR Před 3 lety +1

      No expert here as I’m learning this but in this video example, without the magnets or poles, there’s no clear “direction”. So wiring this dummy in a reverse direction is moot...???

    • @gerardovelasco2984
      @gerardovelasco2984 Před 3 lety +1

      There is no inductance due to the lack of magnets, meaning you don’t have any direction.

    • @gmel1084
      @gmel1084 Před 10 měsíci +1

      No. The magnets have been removed. It’s just coils

  • @frantisca
    @frantisca Před 11 měsíci

    Nice... but don't you lose the characteristic single-coil tone by using this method ?

  • @bikerdhill
    @bikerdhill Před 7 lety

    good video, very clear to me, I was wondering if that dummy coil is acting like a capacitor wired in series between the switch, and volume pot?

  • @cyprn6600
    @cyprn6600 Před 2 měsíci

    is this gonna double the hum on position 2 and 4 ?

  • @danwilkinson1620
    @danwilkinson1620 Před 3 lety

    Dude, many thanks!

  • @ernestorivera410
    @ernestorivera410 Před 3 lety

    It work on any SSS pickup combination? or Does it matter if theres a pickup with reverse wound?

  • @nandorpetrik7467
    @nandorpetrik7467 Před 4 lety

    Great video. Thank you.

  • @jjim0437
    @jjim0437 Před 6 lety

    How would I do this to a Les Paul junior? It has one pickup so no switch. It would go between the volume & ?

  • @painfingertheband
    @painfingertheband Před 9 lety +1

    Hmm... interesting, I just might try this on my Jay Turser Vintage!
    Edit: Hey I might just take a piece of plastic and wind some wire on it and see if that works? lol...just to see if it make any difference

  • @jprmusicman
    @jprmusicman Před 7 lety

    Great explanation! The shielding guitar, and the dummy, make the same effect?

  • @nikoszisidisgrmstudio
    @nikoszisidisgrmstudio Před 2 lety

    Yes travel in the "reverse phase" second coil...this mean must have the right polarity

  • @BLACKSYNTH
    @BLACKSYNTH Před rokem

    1Does it not matter about the orientation of the dummy coil? this is good

  • @mefirst4266
    @mefirst4266 Před 4 lety +1

    YOU must put the coil on the between the tone knobs if you have a 5 position switch. This way only cancels the neck and bridge hummmmssss. If you put it on the volume knob, and put the switch in position 2 or 4 your hum that you tried to get rid of is still there.
    Kinda like my wifes hum.

  • @briansteffmagnussen9078

    What happen if you wire two dummycoils instead of one ? Better or worse ?

  • @davidkennedy1271
    @davidkennedy1271 Před 6 lety +2

    Have you every added a dummy coil to a HSS......wonder what it would sound like with the humbucker?

  • @maurogilson660
    @maurogilson660 Před 3 lety

    In positions 02 and 04 there will be no noise?

  • @keithfredericks27
    @keithfredericks27 Před 4 měsíci

    Will this work with a telecaster

  • @mefirst4266
    @mefirst4266 Před 4 lety +1

    There is anothe video that shows you how to put it on the tone knobs. Happy Humming !!!!

  • @gitarbangsatchanel8036

    Whyyy?? The DCR out dropdown and hars.. because the pickup goes to pararel

  • @rga1117
    @rga1117 Před 6 lety

    Nice good job helpful

  • @amurican_patriotforlife9456

    Will this still work if you have a hss style strat?

  • @ThomasRBowen-gq3jr
    @ThomasRBowen-gq3jr Před 9 lety

    I ordered one of those super switch 5 way switches for my peavey predator after your video and it came in the mail today. I'm not going to put a kill switch on it but I want to wire it up so the bridge and neck pup can be selected like on a tele and for all 3 to be on. Do I still need the on off switch like if I were to mod it with a regular 5 way switch?

    • @WoodesosGuitarMods
      @WoodesosGuitarMods  Před 9 lety +1

      Nope, not at all. I can do a video explaining how the super switch works if you like. It's super simple actually. Even more simple than the 'regular' switch. Essentially the switch has 4 banks of 5 lugs. think of it this way. Every position engages 4 lugs. 2 on either side. Whatever is connected to those lugs, in that position, becomes engaged. So... want a combination of pickups in one position? Make sure they are all connected to lugs that get engaged in that position. You can work it out by just looking at what the switch is actually doing. Thats how I worked it out. As soon as I saw what it was doing, it became easy to figure out any wiring setup you like. Let me know if you wanna see a video. It's really really easy!

    • @ThomasRBowen-gq3jr
      @ThomasRBowen-gq3jr Před 9 lety +1

      Thanks. Your explanation makes sense. Sure, I'd love to see a video. I understand your explanation but sometimes seeing it makes it easier. This is my first time completely rebuilding a guitar and it was my wedding present from my wife so I want to get it right.

    • @WoodesosGuitarMods
      @WoodesosGuitarMods  Před 9 lety +1

      Thomas R. Bowen Sure man. No problem. I forgot to add. Every bank of 5 lugs also has an output of it's own. Those are the 4 lugs at the bottom end on either side, that seem to be on their own. 1 for each bank of 4. That's your output. So essentially you have 5 in 1 out X 4. This can be used any way you like. If you use any of the lugs in a bank of 5, you must add the output of that bank to the circuit. So just run a wire all the way around those 4 lugs and one finally to the volume pot.
      So think of it as though you and your wife are playing patty cake. Hold your hands up to hers. Now you've recreated your 4 banks of 5 lugs. Each finger on each hand is a lug. Call your wrist the output lug. So.. If on your right hand, you connect the neck to your pinky finger and also want the middle and neck engaged in that position. You would connect one to your wife's left hand pinky and either your left hand thumb or your wife's thumb. So when your pinky is engaged on one hand, your thumb and her thumb are engaged on the other hand. See what I'm saying? Your pinky on your right hand is connected to her pinky on her left hand and your thumb and her thumb on the other hand. And then say in position 2... your ring finger and her ring finger would be connected to your index fingers on the other hand. So hold your hands out in front of you. Pinky and thumb. Ring finger and index. Middle finger and middle finger.... etc etc. See? Now imagine with your wife's hands those are your 4 banks of lugs. As the switch moves from position to position 2 lugs and an output for each bank are engaged. Hope the fingers analogy makes it easier not harder. Seemed clear in my head as I was thinking of the analogy;-) I'll do a video too:-)

    • @ThomasRBowen-gq3jr
      @ThomasRBowen-gq3jr Před 9 lety +1

      Woodeso's Guitar Mods that actually helped alot. Thanks I really appreciate you taking time out to help like that that's really nice of you. This axe is gonna sing when I'm done with it. Originally I was just going to paint it and print a headstock logo like you did but when I took out the electronics to paint it I saw that the guy I bought it from stripped all the peavey electronics out and put that dragonfire garbage in it. He said it was original and when you're meeting someone in a parking lot off Craigslist your not gonna tear it apart to find out lol. I finally tracked down some original peavey predator pickups on ebay so when they come in I'm going to finish this thing. It's going to have our wedding colors on the body and head stock, I'm printing the wedding date as a headstock logo and putting our initials into the paint. The back and sides will be black, the front will be daphne blue (it'll look like it has a top on it lol) and the pickguard will be mint green. It'll be sweet and now it will have the original pups with a super switch on it. Thanks for all your videos and when this thing finally gets done I'll make a video and put it up for you to see. Thanks again for everything

  • @Notryce
    @Notryce Před 2 lety

    Obviously the dummy coil needs to be reverse wound. Correct?

  • @BadMotivator66
    @BadMotivator66 Před 8 lety

    does it matter if it's reversewound, or not? thanks!

    • @MrThecordeiro
      @MrThecordeiro Před 8 lety

      +Bad Motivator No, because you took the magnets off.

  • @juliocavalera9293
    @juliocavalera9293 Před 6 lety

    How about the sound after this?

  • @oneeyemonster3262
    @oneeyemonster3262 Před 7 lety

    what if you just install a 5 meg or 10 meg ohms resistor??? Shit load of resistances ..right???

    • @bahusofriends5467
      @bahusofriends5467 Před 6 lety

      if you add some resistance into the circuit all you get is more highs out of the guitar pickups.
      the lower the k-ohms are, the darker your sound will get. try for yourslf and fit a 500 k-ohm log pot into your strat for use as volume pot. that is one of the reasons, some telecasters scream almost shreeking.-..........some of them use 1meg ohm pots for volume.

  • @andsil
    @andsil Před 7 lety

    This is a Squier Strato ?

  • @alexhenderson8356
    @alexhenderson8356 Před 9 lety

    I just ordered Dragonifire noiseless pickups yesterday because I can't stand the hum and now today I find this video. I want to try this method. I have one question for you. Does it matter what kind of single coil I use for the dummy? Resistance 5.6k or 14K ohms? Can I get a cheap Chinese pick up for $5 and use that as a dummy? This video is clearer than the other you made on this topic. I know exactly what to do from this video. From the other video I had some questions. Thanks

    • @bahusofriends5467
      @bahusofriends5467 Před 6 lety

      use a cheapo chinese pickup for 2$ around 5 to 8 kilo-ohms and you sure have a winner. in case your pickup has 14 kilo-ohms, wich is a little high.....wire in a 2 kilo-ohm resistor in parallel........wich gives you 8 kilo ohm resistance in the end.

  • @cyprn6600
    @cyprn6600 Před 2 měsíci

    lol my donor pickup only has one lead coming out of it ...

  • @jonathankreusch9326
    @jonathankreusch9326 Před 4 lety

    Do I have to pull the pole piece if I removed the bar magnet from the back?

    • @strahlgabor5725
      @strahlgabor5725 Před 4 lety

      No. Magnet need because the pieces aren't magnetised. Without the magnet they aren't pick any sound.

  • @stalkedillegally1896
    @stalkedillegally1896 Před 2 lety +1

    I tried this now my car wont start.

  • @steveharris2589
    @steveharris2589 Před 9 lety

    Better lesson to Donald Parker!!!!

  • @DerEchteBold
    @DerEchteBold Před 9 lety

    Great, thanks!
    You said in the first vid that you could never recognize a change in tone at all, do you have any idea why so many people are hostile towards even such simple modifications, where's that coming from? Some kind of religious belief maybe...

    • @ThomasRBowen-gq3jr
      @ThomasRBowen-gq3jr Před 9 lety +1

      It's because alot of people have no clue Wtf they're talking about. You still have people who think that unless you use vintage equipment you can't get the vintage sound and buy those shitty harmony and silver tone guitars. The industry is ran by baby boomers and for baby boomers who still believe all the old myths about tone wood and tubes.

    • @DerEchteBold
      @DerEchteBold Před 9 lety

      Thomas R. Bowen
      Haha, yeah, that's about the direction my thoughts were heading.

    • @WoodesosGuitarMods
      @WoodesosGuitarMods  Před 9 lety

      Cheers and thanks. I don't think it significantly changes the tone. Not to my untrained ear. Sure it must have some effect, but to my ear, so minimal it's really as if it has no effect at all apart from cancelling the hum. And after I popped this into a working guitar tonight, I thought I'd shoot a follow up video to show it both works and virtually has no effect on the almighty 'tone';-)

    • @QuillPen77
      @QuillPen77 Před 9 lety +1

      +DerEchteBold Every dummy coil I ever experimented with significantly changed the high end of the guitar. I may be sticking my foot in my mouth, as I'm no expert at all, but one lead of the dummy coil is supposed to be grounded, and if I'm not mistaken, the method used here is supposed to be in conjunction with an on/off toggle switch which grounds the other lead of the dummy. .....I just don't think what we see here is a legit dummy coil.......Maybe I'm just a dumb ass though.

  • @greggsteven1028
    @greggsteven1028 Před 6 lety

    This acts as a choke coil, its not bucking. its not the same principal.

  • @shantelguetgen4157
    @shantelguetgen4157 Před 8 lety

    You should go to Inplix if you'd like to make it by yourselfs guys.

  • @copierguy1961A
    @copierguy1961A Před 9 lety +3

    You are still leaving out the phase difference in your explanation. Even humbucking pick ups are out of pharmacy with each other, that is how the noise is cancelled out. It has nothing to do with the resistance at all, that will obviously be the same no matter how you read it. Not a dis to you Nelson just a further explanation of how it actually works. Still love your vids....

  • @bahusofriends5467
    @bahusofriends5467 Před 6 lety

    goddammit....those pickups are shitty.
    did you know that you can give those pickups a completely new level of quality and sound by simply replacing those bar magnets as well as the steel rods, with alnico magnets from lets say www.guysmagnets.com?
    they sell the with just the right diameter 4.95mm and 5.00mm
    and you can chose between alönico 2, alnico 5 or neodynium magnets (wich is something i only recommend forthe bridge pickup, cause it is so strong, that it hiinders the string from swinging in neck position
    and the dont worry about polarity isn´t exactly true.
    Just try it out! i did and found it makes more then just marginal difference in my setup.
    it only works with non reverse wound pickups cause it´s not just about the magnetic field, it also matters where the coil winding starts and where it ends.
    I can´t figure out why it is like this but it is as i say. i know it sound strange, for a coil is a coil, has a given resistance and so on, but it makes a difference.
    regards, stefan

  • @dafonk7091
    @dafonk7091 Před 2 lety

    Did not work for me

  • @thorvelizelos
    @thorvelizelos Před 3 lety

    This was a Huge Mistake. I was stupid enough to trust this and I ruined the perfectly fine original Fender Vintage 65 pickup on my new MIM Jimi Hendrix Strat. I bought all the soldering gear, learned how to solder, wasted many hours trying to follow these instructions as carefully as possible as well as the ones from the other previous video and it just didnt work. I just got no output sound from the guitar afterwards and I tried everything to do it again and try to fix it but nothing. Just a guitar with no sound a ruined pickup. So I had to by and install a new pickup in order to get sound out from the guitar again. I will definately be more careful in what instructional videos on youtube I choose to trust and follow in the future. Shit. The original pickkups wherent even that noisey. I just totally got sold on this "get rid of all the noice from single coil pickkups" thing. Big mistake. I should have known better not to trust someone who also makes instructional videos on how to fake or "make" new headstock Fender logos. Who would ever want to make a new fender logo on a headstock if not in order to try and fake a cheaper guitar into looking like a Fender? If your original Fender guitars headstock logo is totally worn out then your guitar is most likely pretty old, perhaps almost even vintage, and why would you want to make a new looking logo on a used looking older Fender guitar? It makes no sense. And neither did this video. Dont do this! I recommend anyone who wants to have completely silent pickkups to buy real noiceless pickkups instead and also realize that the noice from single coils on a regular Fender Strat is not even that big of a problem. Guitarist have used regular single coils to record on countless famous classic records and use them live. So why would the noise be such a big problem for anyone else? A little noise is part of the sound and getting rid of it entirely will definately not make anyones guitar playing sound better.. Such a waste.