The dark side of the industry. 3 years later now that everyone’s out side and back to “normal” it’s cool to come find these pandemic pieces their gems at this point
Powerful conversation. I'll admit, Joe played devil's advocate a lot with this one. But Lupe played better chess. Lupe has been listening to Joe's content and knew exactly where Joe would go. Joe thought he would corner Lupe with the "but the industry took care of you" argument but it failed miserably. At the end, however, it becomes quite clear that they are both actually on the same page. They agree with eachother on the mishandlings of artists in the business. This is the type of team that the industry would try to immediately shut down. Pay attention and soak up this game.
Maurice Brooks if your actually listening you see Joe gets him to explain a lot of shit otherwise Loop wouldn’t have probably spoken on. A lot of what Joe was saying was getting into Loops mind causing him to speak more on topics that had other topics to speak on. Great media technique.
@@akeemalston7506 You peeped good shit!!! These are 2 very intelligent brothers Lupe is more technical and Joe is more raw. There are a lot of ways to show intelligence
If I didn’t catch this Live, I saw it within 24 hours of it being on IG. A few years later, it’s even realer. Shoutout Lu; you been a 🐐 in my mind for years. Bless ✊🏿
For Joe to be so understanding of the music business and still not see why Lupe is upset at certain things is baffling. So Lupe shouldn’t feel a way about the label doing foul shit even though he had the talent of making great records? “Shut up and rap” is what that sounds like.
@@wavey_b0neEveryone. It’s not just a music thing, it’s a copyright thing. If you can claim some ownership to something that is blowing up, you profit exponentially.
He talked about his teeth before. He chipped them from his microphone knocking into his mouth over the years while performing. I think he called it mic teeth or something. Happens to performers a lot apparently.
I don't know man, I like budden as a rapper, but he ain't no lupe; not even close. So it's kind of strange to me how he tried hard to put himself on the same legendary level at the beginning of this conversation
A lot of industry game talk goin on here! It's scary, cuz this is exactly what gets a lot of prominent figures killed. Hopefully they be treadin the right waters.
Is Joe serious??? Is he taking the moral high ground with Lupe when he was just arguing on multiple podcasts that Puff shouldn't have to give publishing to Mase??? Like he's all over tge place and the shit is super hypocritical
Joe Buddens Escape Route is definitely the one he's taking about I already know That Mixtape is better than any album he had Platinum Status easily...But Lupe is the only Artist that I would put against Eminem the Only Rapper. FOOD AND Liquor is The Best album hands fuckin down I call that album Medicine Straight 💎 No album compares period..and no not even Marshall Mathers Lp but my personal opinion Eminem Shows the better but anyways Luoe is The Greatest!!!!
Joe gets caught up saying stupid shit sometimes to prove a valid point. That Bet situation was fucked up and Joe says "well yea". That's a valid beef joe. Especially if he really felt like he was on the edge of death.
Tellem Joe..Lupe just need to Flow people need his medicine his last album is the only album that i couldn't breakdown i catch all his medifores subliminals but that Album is some Einstein slash Tesla shit dude does not know who the Fuck he is past a Rapper he's a Chemist!!!!
Why do I find this convo so entertaining
Two creators communicating is quite interesting
Lupe is a genius. When he brought up the union Joe got right out of his devil’s advocate “I know way more than you” bag
Lupe is the person Joe thinks he is😂
Joe should interview lupe on pull up
The dark side of the industry. 3 years later now that everyone’s out side and back to “normal” it’s cool to come find these pandemic pieces their gems at this point
PRICELESS
“They say the game has the belly of a beast, blunts for fingers & hollow tips for teeth”
Powerful conversation. I'll admit, Joe played devil's advocate a lot with this one. But Lupe played better chess. Lupe has been listening to Joe's content and knew exactly where Joe would go. Joe thought he would corner Lupe with the "but the industry took care of you" argument but it failed miserably. At the end, however, it becomes quite clear that they are both actually on the same page. They agree with eachother on the mishandlings of artists in the business. This is the type of team that the industry would try to immediately shut down. Pay attention and soak up this game.
Maurice Brooks if your actually listening you see Joe gets him to explain a lot of shit otherwise Loop wouldn’t have probably spoken on. A lot of what Joe was saying was getting into Loops mind causing him to speak more on topics that had other topics to speak on. Great media technique.
@@akeemalston7506 You peeped good shit!!! These are 2 very intelligent brothers Lupe is more technical and Joe is more raw. There are a lot of ways to show intelligence
If I didn’t catch this Live, I saw it within 24 hours of it being on IG. A few years later, it’s even realer. Shoutout Lu; you been a 🐐 in my mind for years. Bless ✊🏿
No matter your genius you still have to be good with people. Lupe is still King
you can only be so good with people who aint shit
Reminder for rappers:
The Literary Mind - the origin of thought and languages
For Joe to be so understanding of the music business and still not see why Lupe is upset at certain things is baffling. So Lupe shouldn’t feel a way about the label doing foul shit even though he had the talent of making great records? “Shut up and rap” is what that sounds like.
Food & Liquor was my demo tape... bruh let that shit sink in.
Insanity
This was epic for some eccentric reason
I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation/debate.
I'm like Republican Joe, I was laughing my ass off when Joe said that dude who bought Kick Push's sample was Smart ahahahahaha
Silver Man why is it smart to do the obvious thing that labels have been doing since forever?
@@malikliggins8227well who else did it?
@@wavey_b0neEveryone. It’s not just a music thing, it’s a copyright thing. If you can claim some ownership to something that is blowing up, you profit exponentially.
@@wavey_b0neliterally anybody with lawyers would do this. It isn’t thinking outside of the box, this has been the standard for decades.
Bruh a hip hop union would be HEAVYYYYYYY....i would damn near cry if we could wield that type of power
It is the record industry Joe but that doesn't make it right
Lupe got mouse teeth 😂 salute to both of them tho 💯
He talked about his teeth before. He chipped them from his microphone knocking into his mouth over the years while performing. I think he called it mic teeth or something. Happens to performers a lot apparently.
I don't know man, I like budden as a rapper, but he ain't no lupe; not even close. So it's kind of strange to me how he tried hard to put himself on the same legendary level at the beginning of this conversation
this is great.
lupe the goat
Wow....wow!!!
Bruh this was a beautiful conversation.. deep as fuck yo !
Joe has become what he hates. Hes become so industry. Its hard to watch sometimes.
Desperate to be accepted. All for creators yet worships Lyor, all for equality all up in Diddys ass. Hes a joke.
@@elemental12345678900 i agree . Damn its bad
Dont hate the game play it
Deontae Riley-Waites *change it
The President dont even like me Lool
To real for Rap Lupe
i loved how Lupe was talking his shit at 40:00 haha, now thats what i like to hear,
Everything Lupe doing the way he dress the way he talk all these “rockstars” are sons to that
A lot of industry game talk goin on here! It's scary, cuz this is exactly what gets a lot of prominent figures killed. Hopefully they be treadin the right waters.
Lupé is still pissed
Is Joe serious??? Is he taking the moral high ground with Lupe when he was just arguing on multiple podcasts that Puff shouldn't have to give publishing to Mase??? Like he's all over tge place and the shit is super hypocritical
16:34 That's some set up shit.
Joe Buddens Escape Route is definitely the one he's taking about I already know That Mixtape is better than any album he had Platinum Status easily...But Lupe is the only Artist that I would put against Eminem the Only Rapper. FOOD AND Liquor is The Best album hands fuckin down I call that album Medicine Straight 💎 No album compares period..and no not even Marshall Mathers Lp but my personal opinion Eminem Shows the better but anyways Luoe is The Greatest!!!!
I hope dudes not judging looks of men
They are. Weirdos.
Joe gets caught up saying stupid shit sometimes to prove a valid point. That Bet situation was fucked up and Joe says "well yea". That's a valid beef joe. Especially if he really felt like he was on the edge of death.
Lupe trying not to laugh at this nigga
Tellem Joe..Lupe just need to Flow people need his medicine his last album is the only album that i couldn't breakdown i catch all his medifores subliminals but that Album is some Einstein slash Tesla shit dude does not know who the Fuck he is past a Rapper he's a Chemist!!!!
What happened between him and cudi
It started around the time Kendrick spoke on Ferguson and Cudi and Azealia Banks came for Kendrick Lamar and Lupe came for Cudi.
he cant just call jay z like everyone else?
Lucky Jackson 2020 he could but Hov would never answer for this
Lupe got sum small teeth
Lupe looking hella 60 these days...
so what?? he is an intellectual OG
82joon Yeah, that’s how aging works.
Lupe really compared himself to a rape victim and said it in a third person, this guys ego is through the roof.