@@MrJduke40 It had a few standouts but I agree, it doesn't hold up as a project. From what the MCs have said about it in retrospect, it sounds like an out-of-touch Eminem was forcing a mainstream sound on them based on trends and the group didn't push back enough.
@@calel5470 actually Royce put his hand up and said alot of the problems with that album was on him (Royce), cause he was trying to chase something that their core fans didn't really want to hear from them.
I think it was a mess because of the clash of the 2. If they picked a side that album would have been phenomenal. Even a full trap album if you will. Would have been one of the best trap albums ever made.
@@calel5470The production was terrible, if DJ Premier, Alchemist & Madlib were behind it, it would have been really good but Noooooooo Eminem had to add those pop artists in the hooks and beats, some songs don't need hooks because they ruin the flow
Drogas light wasnt under atlantic but im sure lupe knows better than i about his career but yes you need to be you and let the people accept it Dont force art thats true i agree wit royce just follow your heart and creativity and let the audience come to it..... magic
That is scary, music has been devalued so much, and Lupe right re music customisation being the next level. What is art without the artist? Jay Z suing a company right now that using semblance of his voice to make gimmicky - meme-ish content.
We don't look at it this way cuz these ppl are alive and with us right now; But our artists are the great philosophers of our time. From music 2 comedy, there's so much wisdom that can be gleaned from the creative mind forged from experience.
"We have a lot a powers we kinda overlook. We gotta use our power and TELL them what they like. And we gotta make them CHOOSE!" *Lupe laughs because he KNOWS he's right*
I feel they are in 2 very different places spiritually, there both right on the perspective of there level, but while Royce is still trying 2 learn about himself through himself lupe has already done that and is now looking 2 other angles to learn about himself.
Interesting perspective, I totally agree that at some point you can't just look inside for growth. You have to take in what's around you and express it through your filter.
lyrically hands down.. some good artist out there these are some of the best. you know want makes this even crazier is they actually talking.. could be beef but they learning from each other shits dope!!
I agree more with Royce on his approach to creativity. When Lupe tries to do something too outside of his zone it totally sounds forced (lasers, friend of the people)
Song do matter tho Lupe. Lasers and food and liquor 2 are proof of that...Lupe never lost a step with his rapping ability but I never go back to those albums
Royce has gotten that old school rock and roll..fuck the fans...I'm the prize attitude lol.....ok. the sheer arrogance of it all is funny....not really a fan but I think I kinda like it and offended at the same time lol. Good job Royce lol
The reason Royce has a problem with doing commercial songs is because he can’t make them he’s a lyricist but he can’t make a fun song that’s entertaining and lyrical so he became hateful of making that type of music
A Lupe and Royce track with a Neptunes beat is what I need
Flames
The Lupe Slaughterhouse era was the greatest.
Royce tryna get his steps in 😂
5’9 walk so dam much he walk his ass right out the conversation.
Lupe and Royce are the best lyricist of our time.
Two of the greats of our time but there are others in this conversation.
@@MrJduke40 They are definitely two of the most technical and respected lyricists.
I agree
@@MrJduke40 Thank You Man People Act Like Pharoahe Monch, Phonte, Big Boi, Termanology, Jean Grae, Ras Kass Like C'Mon Man......
@@fairplayterrific147 they both better than everyone in this list
where tf royce walking to? Mecca?
Thats cute.....its a thing called pacing. Alot of folks do it
@@YJSho_Nuff_ : its a hole in bruh floor from that pacing
lol, he's just like me. I always walk around my place when I'm on the phone.
@@Lexyboogie same lol
I thought I was the only one who paced lol. Idk why but it’s like a habit of mine. It’s like I get the most creativity from just pacing alone
Royce's perspective about not trying to blend in and be relevant must have been realized after the last Slaughterhouse album
That album musicly fucking sucks and the hooks are also bad
@@MrJduke40 It had a few standouts but I agree, it doesn't hold up as a project. From what the MCs have said about it in retrospect, it sounds like an out-of-touch Eminem was forcing a mainstream sound on them based on trends and the group didn't push back enough.
@@calel5470 actually Royce put his hand up and said alot of the problems with that album was on him (Royce), cause he was trying to chase something that their core fans didn't really want to hear from them.
I think it was a mess because of the clash of the 2. If they picked a side that album would have been phenomenal. Even a full trap album if you will. Would have been one of the best trap albums ever made.
@@calel5470The production was terrible, if DJ Premier, Alchemist & Madlib were behind it, it would have been really good but Noooooooo Eminem had to add those pop artists in the hooks and beats, some songs don't need hooks because they ruin the flow
This like watching Naruto and Goku talk
😂
Nah Goku is dumb 😂
so who is Goku?
michael puente Madara and final form Cell then. Lol
Naruto is stupid and goku is dumb tho XD
Could y’all just collab allready.
I second this
4th it
I fifth it
2 of my favourites, they need to!
The lives with Lupe, Joe and Royce is like Chess boxing for me. Speaking of chess boxing, I would for Lupe to go live with GZA or even Killah Priest.
Drogas light wasnt under atlantic but im sure lupe knows better than i about his career but yes you need to be you and let the people accept it
Dont force art thats true i agree wit royce just follow your heart and creativity and let the audience come to it..... magic
Lupe Fiasco Royce some of the best Lyricist ever
Wow they both right but Lupe being safe he knows too much and everything early
As a creator, I agree with Royce on not being an employee of the people. The best art comes from the heart.
As a student of the game, I needed to hear this. 2 grandmasters of
I agree
That is scary, music has been devalued so much, and Lupe right re music customisation being the next level. What is art without the artist? Jay Z suing a company right now that using semblance of his voice to make gimmicky - meme-ish content.
Tetsuo and Youth was a masterpiece man
We don't look at it this way cuz these ppl are alive and with us right now;
But our artists are the great philosophers of our time. From music 2 comedy, there's so much wisdom that can be gleaned from the creative mind forged from experience.
Great Conversation... and I appreciate Royce's take on how he approaches the Art.
Love this convo as a lyricist...
2 of my top 3 rappers. This was a blessing, thank you.
Can royce stop walking everywhere man lol get a spot
Man is definitely one of the pacing around type lol, he makes me anxious and want to pace too 😂.
I swear Royce is walking in circles. The ceiling is making me dizzy 🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm waiting on him to trip over a cord, or something.. Even a stubbed toe would suffice lol
"I'm not an employee of the people!" 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏People are dumb! A person is smart!🤯🤔🤣👏👍✌❤
"We have a lot a powers we kinda overlook.
We gotta use our power and TELL them what they like.
And we gotta make them CHOOSE!"
*Lupe laughs because he KNOWS he's right*
That's how you know these two are masters. It's all semantics with their respective perspective.
"Artist: Dr. Dre Song: 'Nuthin' but a 'G' Thang' (1992) Ghostwriter: The D.O.C"
It's funny when Lupe's head is on Royces shoulders around 8:14
So many gems in this convo. Holy crap that was sick
Eyy though I appreciate u bro
Lupe a wise man
I feel they are in 2 very different places spiritually, there both right on the perspective of there level, but while Royce is still trying 2 learn about himself through himself lupe has already done that and is now looking 2 other angles to learn about himself.
Interesting perspective, I totally agree that at some point you can't just look inside for growth. You have to take in what's around you and express it through your filter.
Till this day royce is still walking....lol
Royce Da 5'9"- "Hip Hop" 2004 Produced By DJ Premier Lupe Fiasco Featuring Nikki Jean- "Hip Hop Saved My Life" 2007 Produced By Soundtrakk...
Lupe and royce prolly got mad shit we ain't hear yet
This is some beautiful stuff.
I wholeheartedly agree.
lyrically hands down.. some good artist out there these are some of the best. you know want makes this even crazier is they actually talking.. could be beef but they learning from each other shits dope!!
Why can't Royce sit down somewhere 🤳🏽🚶🏾♂️🤨
Dang Lupe kinda predicted the Stem Player here
Fuck with both these good brothas 🙏🏿🙏🏿
thank you
Man I Agree with Both but know one knows exactly how your destiny is layed out but you can always have hope
Imma need a Lup and Nickel mixtape or Ep, thank you in advance.
Yo Lupe predicted the Yzy Stem Player 🤯
I feel Royce about the "perfect verse". I try 2 do that all the time
Can definitely be a challenge
I'd watch a vs battle between these two
If Lupe don’t go onto Crooked’s show......
Goat to Goat
How can I get Beyonce to sing to me in Chinese 😭
🤣
Lupe got that majoras mask mask dealer laugh 😂
Royce da 5’ 9 : I don’t care what fans like. The Fans : were not really into your music
My guys lol. First Royce cd I bought was Build and Destroy from Tower Records
Do u have today's live that is 15 may 2020
I agree more with Royce on his approach to creativity. When Lupe tries to do something too outside of his zone it totally sounds forced (lasers, friend of the people)
Song do matter tho Lupe. Lasers and food and liquor 2 are proof of that...Lupe never lost a step with his rapping ability but I never go back to those albums
Royce has gotten that old school rock and roll..fuck the fans...I'm the prize attitude lol.....ok. the sheer arrogance of it all is funny....not really a fan but I think I kinda like it and offended at the same time lol. Good job Royce lol
Royce dont have any chairs in his house
I’m high af right now but did Royce ever stop walking??
The reason Royce has a problem with doing commercial songs is because he can’t make them he’s a lyricist but he can’t make a fun song that’s entertaining and lyrical so he became hateful of making that type of music
They should just put in a track
Lupe big lemon
Royce...isn’t on the same wave lemf as Lupe...at all. Loop is mad cerebral, dude just thinks so clear and sees errthang for what it is.
Royce's pet alligator still chasing him around his house, I see lol
Form follows functions
Definitely talk to Crook
Talked to royces chin today
Lupe x westside gunn x royce we neeed itttt
whats a necklace steph ??????
Lupe. Turned full on nerd
where is royce going? Lol
That’s why he isn’t that successful or more known or regarded. Not layered enough or nuanced which is a right but not really advantageous
Thought they were the same person for years
ft. Royce neck
🤔🤣👍✌👏❤
This is why Lupe is superior to Nas
JohnJacobJingleHeimer Schmidt Lupe is more diverse in my opinion your welcome to yours
they should've talked about vaccines
Mikey T lol nah
Is Royce exercising? lol
Pedometer 😁😅
Royce Murdered em, in you gonna learn.
EM murderd Royce on all I think about they both be going in when they need to
royce walked away from his router and started breakin up lol