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Low Rail Pressure + 3K hrs - are these Bosch Injectors Done?
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- Put your lab coats on and join us in the clean room. We’ve partnered up with another diesel industry favorite channel - @Dirt Perfect! Mike over at Dirt Perfect has Volvo EC140EL, a 2016 excavator with 4-cylinder, 4-liter, 120 horsepower Deutz engine. Once the excavator is warmed up, it is throwing a low rail pressure code. With about 3000 hours on these four CRIN 2 Bosch common rail injectors - watch as our injector technician Brandon looks for the culprit(s) causing this problem. Curt and Brandon explain the processes and equipment we use in the Bosch-authorized injector portion of our state-of-the-art Route 4 specialty remanufacturing facility.
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Thanks to Dirt Perfect for the collaboration on this project. Follow along with the progress here - / dirtperfect
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0:00 Intro
0:44 What's the Issue?
1:57 Quick Injector Room Walk-Through
7:54 Bosch CRIN 2 Injectors
8:38 Solenoid Test
11:38 Machine Shop Fixture
13:10 Bosch 205 Bench Tests
31:20 Results
34:13 Now What?
37:07 Disassembly to Dive Deeper
47:07 An Even CLOSER Look - Ball & Seat under the Microscope
48:53 Our Recommendation & Solution
49:42 Costs & Fees Rundown
51:17 Outro
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Very informative guys thanks for everything !!!
It was our pleasure!
Informative indeed.
@@AreaDieselService You did a very good job For DP!!!!!
Thanks for helping DP out.
SCIENCE! Cool! Neato clean room. Was sent over here by Dirt Perfect to see what all yall did on his injectors. He was just a gushing about you and your service. Very interesting. I much enjoyed the technical side of such complicated parts. Never even thought about what went into one of them things but do recall some one several years ago complaining about the cost of new injectors on something they had. Now it kinda makes sense.
I watched "DP's" video first and then came to watch this. Very interesting and informative. I am NOT a mechanic! I repaired computers in the Air Force, old school stuff from the 1960's and 1970's. I few of your time terms I do get from those days.
I never knew that injectors fired multiple times per ignition stroke. It does make sense now.
Never ever too old to learn!
Just discovered this channel through the diesel creek injector pump video. Impressed by the capabilities and level of expertise at area diesel. Also, a guy in lab coat and shorts is a real selling point 👍
Dirt Perfect sent me. I did a lot of hand pumping of mechanical injector testing during 20 years in the US Navy. Our concept of clean and safe testing area was a lot different in my day! That "lab" is awesome. Subscribed!
It takes a lot to impress me and I'm more impressed great video thank you I'm glad Mike directed me to watch your video.
Dirt Perfect is really singing your praises 👍👏
Thanks for helping Dirt Perfect good job
I came here via Dirt Perfect, very informative. Thanks!
Thanks for helping DP!
Watching this because of the Dirt Perfect video. I know only a little about diesel engines, and had no idea they'd fire the injector multiple times per combustion cycle. That's seriously cool!
Hey guys, first I'm no mechanic and a lot of what you talked about was Greek to me. I watched the whole thing and I'm amazed at all of the tiny parts that are needed. Brandon did a great job tell us about everything. Dirt Perfect sent me.
Thanks for helping Dirt Perfect
Thanks again for helping out some of the CZcams channels that I follow. Also thanks for a very detailed look at these injectors and your state of the art test facilities. Much appreciated :)
Very nice input on what goes into testing and rebuilding a diesel injector. Goes to show the quality and price is worth it. Nice video.
I wouldn’t have known of if I didn’t see you in Dirt Perfect. Very interesting what you do!
Watch Wes Work also did a video with them - that was quite the video! They did pump rebuilding and testing in that one
Learned a great amount of info. From you guys and watched DP install the new ones
You guys really are miles ahead of other repair facilities in this field, Very good video on your service capabilities that you do well done.
Allot of good info!!
Might be good to keep Kevin away from injectors? Some TINY parts in there! Leave him with the wrecking ball???
@@Michael_CS615 lol
Great explanation and you got the camera into the action.
Doubt I will ever get into an injector - but as I have a diesel car - I can now appreciate what the service people will be talking about if there is ever a problem.
Watched Dirt Perfect change out those injectors nice to hear all the good things about your company so welcome in todays world that there are people like you that take real pride in their work 😁👍🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
Thank you guys.
Hi Guys, Cool and very informative video. definitely a very equipped shop. Came over to see how Mike at Dirt perfects injectors were tested.thank you for explaining and showing the process 👍👌🇨🇦 Craig
gotta watch now DP sent me lol eyeballs engaged
Great people to business with. If you have a question, they always try to get you an answer
Thank you for looking up our channel Joe! Nice talking you today and thank you for your business!
You have a fascinating job. It would be something I would be interested in that type of work if I was 30 years younger.
Great video on how everything works. Well done!
another great video. very informative. appreciate the explanation as the injectors were taken through each step of the process.
Well done guys, interesting video.
Great video and job I got a good laugh on the making your own parts due to high prices basically a nice way of giving someone the finger I'll just make my own
Great stuff,so in narrowing down the low fuel rail fault, would having the injector heated up to a machines operating temp possibly reveal the issue on the test bench.As like ignition coils on small engines run fine on start up but fail under increased heat as they wear out.Tolerances change with heat in such (microns) of tolerance.Just a thought in diagnosing the gremlin.
Nice set up. I've been making Cat injectors for nearly 30 yrs.
Impressive. Good to know.
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Damn, you guys are right up there with Heart Surgeons, DP ask us to take a look, i had no ideal ,what a set up love your shop ? See Ya, Texas
Very Interesting.
What you guys do is amazing. I’ve learned so much just watching this video. It’s hard for me to comprehend the pressure coming from these injectors. Could be dangerous for your body parts. Thanks guys.
Oh it is. You can get fuel injected under your skin.
I am sure you have seen injector on diesel fuel no additive. Can you see any difference with running something like Stanadyne in every tank.
The ony thing I would question is whether or not it would be importnt to check the customer provided fuel delivery tubes which seal against the injectors to make sure they aren't faulty either? Maybe a modification (additional test fixture) to your test stand to test those as well? Or are they inexpensive enough to suggest just getting new ones with an injector change out?
Edit: OK, I see you recommended new 'one time use' push tubes.
@@wirenut003 Yeah, I commented on it while the video was still paying because they hadn't mentioned anything about testing the tubes. Anxious I guess.
These are very acurate mesurement and test. How does it see that there is a mist coming out of the tip instead of a flow? Or isn that the thing anymore.
Valve cycles at 3000 hours = 2,250,000,000
I know it would be a hard thing to do, but you need to change your company name to DIESELPERFECT! Thanks for video,very cool!
Great presentation. I had no idea this was such a precise industry. Thanks.
Love your guys work but the background noise is killer in headphones.
Very impressive and informative.
DP can cut out a few Pepsis to cover the cost.
Sir you spent a lot of money getting the clean room and your blowing it. BIG TIME.
Get the tear off floor mat's, sticky takes dirt of shoes.
The big screw up is the paper and box's. You want zero paper, towels, box's are the worst. They shed wood particles they call shorts. Have shelves and file cabinet out side the mouse trap. Foyer with less pressure than your clean room. Outside door does not open until inside door closes. The foyer is a higher pressure the the area outside of room so nothing can blow into the room since all the air is coming out of the room.
I setup labs with cascading room pressurization. Need any help (free) reach out.
I am surprised there is no visual verification of spray pattern involved. It seems like you could have an injector pass the flow test but be spraying a poor pattern and would never know.
new subscriber came from Dirt Perfect Mike said to check you out and I am impressed.
We gotta get you a lav mic
Will u guys check Injectors from North Carolina? I could ship them to u?
What class clean room do you have there?
It's not that high at all - they're not even wearing shoe protectors from what I can see, and even in the "dirty" clean room I've been in, you have to wear shoe covers, and they have those curtains you see in walk in coolers in grocery stores to prevent the free flow of air from outside the room coming in (and to help maintain the positive pressure in the clean room, so that air is only going out). An actual clean room you have to wear a full head to toe tyvek bunny suit, with multiple layers in some areas, multiple layers of gloves, all facial hair has to be covered, all with a particular protocol as to how you put it on and in what order, and how you take it off and in what order to protect the clean room from you and your shedding skin particles, hair, droplets when you talk, etc etc. And there are essentially air locks, and air "showers" going into the clean area. This is probably as clean as a good paint booth with freshly washed down walls would be - filtered air, no large dust, but not super clean as far as "cleanrooms" goes. This is probably not even good enough to work on hard drives. Oh, and also, he's using paper towel (or maybe kimwipes) to check for leaks. Some kimwipes are cleanroom rated, but if that's paper towel, that would be a definite no no in an actual cleanroom.
In the 3000 hours, each injector "fired" approximately 225,000,000 times. But no engine runs constantly at full power, so it is safe to say that it will be around 200,000,000 times, and that is a lot!!!!!
I find it a little ironic that you must work on these with latex gloves and in a clean room, free from minute particles of dust, yet full heads of hair, beards, and mustaches go completely uncovered! 😱🙈
I was just going to say the same thing where's your beard mask and gloves.
Same thing I thought 💭
The latex gloves are for the protection of the employees, not the Clean Room requirements (as stated by Bosch in awarding them their Service Center authorization ... and "audited" as per AS9100). Diesel has toxic potential and can affect multiple organs. Exposure can occur after ingestion, inhalation or through the dermal route.
Area Diesel's Clean room is to whatever class level they decide as the OEM authority; Class 1 (the cleanest ... Health/NASA stuff) to 1,000 ... but all have requirements for "positive pressure" and how often the air is exchanged per hour. This is to say that AD's system takes into account "hair/clothes lint" and is sucked up in the Clean Room system. Clean rooms for my particular vocation (Aerospace Composite structures) also have stringent temp/humidity requirements.
If you've ever taken an injector apart, you'd know the tolerances are so close and precise, hair wouldn't fit in there - it's only small particles you need to worry about.
Hell of a setup and very ironic that it requires a clean room to work on a component of a machine , that operates constantly in some of the dirtiest environments possible .
The good part was the problem was repeatable and you could quantify a problem with empirical testing .
Intermittent problems that you cannot make repeat will turn into business for the liquor store , funded by all the swear jars you filled .
cool
I apologise Brandon, did you ever live in the UK, and if you did it would have been years ago, does the LBCC mean anything to you your face beard and voice I have the funny feeling I have met you, if not in the UK somewhere there is an absolute double of you.
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Enjoy the video but please please do something about your audio. You sound like you are talking through a tin can in a bathroom
Thanks for the watch and the feedback.