World's Cheapest Electric Car Conversion

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  • @Life_OD
    @Life_OD  Před 2 lety +6

    Check this out !! We made a MOPED powered CAR : czcams.com/video/MS4itA1dSjA/video.html

    • @hscgameryt
      @hscgameryt Před 2 lety

      we already são thus video pls stop commenting this

  • @anynonymous1585
    @anynonymous1585 Před 4 lety +315

    Respect for the civic. It's had a boat engine in it and now it's an electric boii

  • @thebluestreak3970
    @thebluestreak3970 Před 4 lety +1211

    This is better than a Tesla, an Manuel electric car, can wait when these go into production

    • @Life_OD
      @Life_OD  Před 4 lety +92

      i wouldn't call it "better" but its a step in the right direction. Elon is a legit genius and teslas are very very good cars. I too , am excited for other mass produced electric cars

    • @girlsdrinkfeck
      @girlsdrinkfeck Před 4 lety +20

      And don't tell people to buy tesla. They prob worse looking cars I seen. Wait till the proper car brands get their prices down audi ones look awesome

    • @xXRames7Xx
      @xXRames7Xx Před 4 lety +31

      Manual electric cars are a really silly idea. The motors can provide any amount of torque without the limitations of combustion engines, making a transmission pointless.

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 Před 4 lety +9

      Life OD legit genius? Because he used the laws passed by the epa to get free cash from the government?

    • @thebluestreak3970
      @thebluestreak3970 Před 4 lety +1

      Life OD I’m just saying that you guys have crazy ideas Elon and Tesla are good as well

  • @safecracker112
    @safecracker112 Před 4 lety +241

    What’s the nicest way of saying half your projects might actually work if you didn’t have an extra 750 pounds of dude in the car.

    • @joshuaandersen5294
      @joshuaandersen5294 Před 4 lety +17

      It a good stress test

    • @henntendo
      @henntendo Před 4 lety +24

      It works for the average American at least

    • @modelnutty6503
      @modelnutty6503 Před 4 lety +16

      they should repeat this, but use a little 2 door Geo Metro with a 5 speed, hooking the regular clutch pedal+cable to the belt tensioner of the motor. with 8 car batteries providing 48v (2 strings of 4 parallel), it might be a good cheap car for 80-100 miles per charge. strip ALL the "dumb weight" possible from it of course.

    • @TheCliverguy
      @TheCliverguy Před 3 lety +1

      Hilarious 😂

  • @dallasdelano8235
    @dallasdelano8235 Před 4 lety +612

    Just have a normal car and unplug the spark plugs, and start the car in gear

    • @SuperBlueMoonWA
      @SuperBlueMoonWA Před 4 lety +108

      Take spark plugs out so it cranks faster

    • @dallasdelano8235
      @dallasdelano8235 Před 4 lety +9

      Jesse yeah that too

    • @MonkeyWrenching
      @MonkeyWrenching Před 4 lety +112

      You could just remove the engine and secure the flywheel to the input shaft and run the starter on the flywheel ring gear.

    • @breezetix
      @breezetix Před 4 lety +8

      he took out the engine lol

    • @MonkeyWrenching
      @MonkeyWrenching Před 4 lety +11

      Expoilin - r/whoosh 👍 we’re all aware of that, Orion also didn’t think about welding a flywheel to the input shaft and using a starter motor.

  • @ProbeGT2
    @ProbeGT2 Před 4 lety +64

    "We have an EV, and you don't!"
    Man I laughed very hard at the wiring, that was a great idea

  • @Deven10199
    @Deven10199 Před 4 lety +600

    Everyone just ignoring the fact this is a manual electric car..... the future might be bright!!!

    • @Mr371312
      @Mr371312 Před 4 lety +18

      There are no gears in electric cars because it's torque vs rpm every time basically, like a CVT. An electric motor will spin going up to 20k rpm no matter what, the motor either can take it or go slower basivally. I always did wonder why there are no geared e-motors nonetheless it's the gearheads paradox

    • @Deven10199
      @Deven10199 Před 4 lety +7

      Yeah Ik it’s ass. I’ve been lookin but this is wild. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone does it in some way like Honda or Vw but at the same time it’s just not logical. One can dream tho lol

    • @Deven10199
      @Deven10199 Před 4 lety +6

      Mr371312 forgot to mention you above. But I guess I’m just upset about manuals goin away.

    • @Mr371312
      @Mr371312 Před 4 lety +5

      @@Deven10199 Yea me too actually.

    • @RETZ1LLA
      @RETZ1LLA Před 4 lety +12

      ever seen the electric swapped AE86? full tranny and clutch

  • @hamiltonbros2005
    @hamiltonbros2005 Před 4 lety +115

    Me: Can we buy a Tesla?
    Mom: We have a Tesla at home!
    The Tesla at home:

  • @mr.massacre7075
    @mr.massacre7075 Před 4 lety +20

    This was insane. You guys could totally do a part 2 and make it even more viable.

  • @brandon_doe
    @brandon_doe Před 4 lety +145

    why tf did he break those quarter windows?!

  • @ner072
    @ner072 Před 4 lety +263

    Japanese: Americans will destroy our classics when they hit the gray market
    Americans: laughs
    Also Americans:

  • @whumptapus
    @whumptapus Před 4 lety +23

    The only thing more suspect than the battery pack is the Collection Shield 360

  • @stacydornan9765
    @stacydornan9765 Před 4 lety +95

    You will be getting a call from Tesla with that battery pack install tecnique

  • @cutterkelley7532
    @cutterkelley7532 Před 4 lety +18

    Put one of those motors on each wheel

  • @calebgoldsmith6776
    @calebgoldsmith6776 Před 4 lety +199

    You should make a Honda dually

  • @Lambontae
    @Lambontae Před 4 lety +87

    Its kinda funny to watch someone do something very jury rigged promote a company that fixes credit. Like it was meant to be.

    • @esqueue
      @esqueue Před 4 lety +6

      Then fake it at the end by having a truck push them down hill. That setup doesn't have the juice to pull my bicycle much less a fully loaded car.

    • @Network126
      @Network126 Před 4 lety

      @@esqueue They probably did that "test" up off the ground because they knew it didn't even have enough torque to even move it's own weight.

  • @allhonesty848
    @allhonesty848 Před 3 lety +7

    This is gonna be my go-to in an apocalypse scenario if my vehicle breaks and I can't fix it or get parts. Simple, reliable, quite and Harbor Freight s, Tractor Supply's and wal-marts are everywhere. No shortage of batteries.

  • @F1chittynoah
    @F1chittynoah Před 3 lety +6

    You could throw an alternator on there too and have infinite power lmao

    • @Kyleplaysgames567
      @Kyleplaysgames567 Před 2 měsíci

      There won't be a net gain in power. It takes power to spin the alternator, which would only give a small fraction of the power back. Even if it was 100% efficient, it would break even.

  • @ClassicJunk88
    @ClassicJunk88 Před 4 lety +35

    yo I need that harbor freight coupon for the electric honda civic converson kit

  • @Jeremy_Hill_2020
    @Jeremy_Hill_2020 Před 4 lety +2

    I can see the truck pushing you thats behind you

  • @jam3sh3n13y
    @jam3sh3n13y Před 4 lety +11

    Well with a little more money in it I'm sure you can calculate the amount of Voltage and Amperes and get the correct wiring sizes and a better inverter that can handle the load.

  • @ethanshaw4321
    @ethanshaw4321 Před 4 lety +52

    You should try mount two of these to the rear wheels of a fwd car, and try make a budget awd system

    • @BrandMalone24
      @BrandMalone24 Před 4 lety +1

      There was something like that at last years sema for the type R

    • @joshuaandersen5294
      @joshuaandersen5294 Před 4 lety +1

      It requires and can buss system though a main computer. To the four motor controls controlling the wheels. Not what he was going for hear

  • @arizonadirtdonthurt7154
    @arizonadirtdonthurt7154 Před 4 lety +19

    Slap a 2nd electric motor next to it and run the same belt

    • @Network126
      @Network126 Před 4 lety +1

      Better yet, use the 2nd motor as the belt tensioner also, by installing the motor on the opposite side, taking the place of the tensioner pulley.

    • @Network126
      @Network126 Před 4 lety +1

      And use a larger motor, like one from an old heavy-duty treadmill.

    • @Network126
      @Network126 Před 4 lety +1

      Also more batteries. At least double the amount.

  • @CeinX
    @CeinX Před 3 lety +1

    You guys are having so much fun with this. Love the atmosphere y'all create. Subbed!

  • @poiiihy
    @poiiihy Před 4 lety +2

    wat u mean test run failed; it moved

  • @TechFollower
    @TechFollower Před 4 lety +3

    Elon musk must get shock after seeing this video...how fast you produced your first prototype... good job man...

  • @igameincolor4597
    @igameincolor4597 Před 4 lety +4

    Dayyum this civic had more successful engine swaps then most CZcamsrs

  • @stevepalmer1521
    @stevepalmer1521 Před 4 lety +2

    You guys are hilarious and your projects are awesome.

  • @nbarrager
    @nbarrager Před 4 lety +1

    You guys really have something here, please keep working on it!

  • @ssrixk
    @ssrixk Před 4 lety +18

    eBay seller: what are you going to use it for?
    OD: my Honda Civic
    EBay seller: oh ok... wait what?

  • @storm8632
    @storm8632 Před 4 lety +13

    Upload more often!!! 😂

  • @jv1990
    @jv1990 Před 3 lety +1

    Idk why but I find this way more entertaining than most car channels keep in the good work lads

  • @jondgaf6259
    @jondgaf6259 Před 4 lety +2

    It's wasn't a fail at all the car moved and you were able to drive it that is badass!

  • @rikidiki8940
    @rikidiki8940 Před 4 lety +11

    Not gonna lie pretty sure it was pulled along by some other vehicle lol

  • @ChevyCitation
    @ChevyCitation Před 4 lety +9

    At 2:45 who else remembers Onion doing this Haggard back in the day when he did the Battery in the Trunk on the Turbo Protege the Ricers are going to be mad it's so Quiet : )

  • @DaniFold
    @DaniFold Před 4 lety +2

    not long till i-VTEC gets replaced with E-VTEC

  • @bobbertthebuilder4856
    @bobbertthebuilder4856 Před 4 lety

    Glad you guys made a another video its been a while

  • @mfbfreak
    @mfbfreak Před 4 lety +15

    I'd love to do this but with a 24v truck starter motor, switchable for 12 or 24v. I think it'll last a good while running at half voltage.

    • @tamer27antepli
      @tamer27antepli Před 4 lety +2

      No use a reachtruck motor

    • @mfbfreak
      @mfbfreak Před 4 lety +1

      Most (modern-ish) fork lifts use AC motors that you need some kind of electronic driver for.
      The starter motor (or a *very* old fork lift motor) can be run directly from the battery (maybe with some inrush current limiter, like a BIG lightbulb or a 12v or 24v heater coil)

    • @ethericlimerick2992
      @ethericlimerick2992 Před 4 lety +2

      My first go cart was electric... the 'ol man used a generator from an old truck with a 2" (ish) pulley driving an 8" pulley on one rear wheel... probably contributed to me liking these kinds of videos (grinning & shaking head).

  • @stevendelainey
    @stevendelainey Před 4 lety +4

    Hook up the clutch with a switch so you can change gears

  • @ADJUDlCATOR
    @ADJUDlCATOR Před 4 lety +8

    Judging by the budget of your videos you probably need to click the link in the description.

  • @jayryan7473
    @jayryan7473 Před 4 lety

    I don't know what I'm watching but I like it! I think I'd be like the guy in the back seat-in so much disbelief that I really can't get words out of my mouth, just trying to wrap my mind around what is actually taking place LOL.

  • @Brandon-ev2zh
    @Brandon-ev2zh Před 4 lety +4

    Seems like it isnt driving under its own power and that the truck is pushing the car

    • @MoreBo0st
      @MoreBo0st Před 4 lety +3

      The truck is beside the car when they are in 4th and 5th gear...

    • @elijahcormier5239
      @elijahcormier5239 Před 4 lety +1

      You are as dumb as Patrick.

  • @xanderpage9655
    @xanderpage9655 Před 4 lety +8

    Wow
    I’ve spent 3 years trying to find a nice s13 an y’all just over there knockin windows out
    Nice

    • @driftbandit889
      @driftbandit889 Před 4 lety +3

      Xander Page look 1500$ they’re everywhere in Cali

  • @danielfarias5589
    @danielfarias5589 Před 4 lety

    i love how they were each freaking out in their own funny ass way when the cables started burning

  • @Brenninv
    @Brenninv Před 4 lety +96

    Kind of butthurt he broke those quarter windows I could have used those😕

    • @XxDemon23xX
      @XxDemon23xX Před 4 lety +14

      yeah its not like we can just call up a nissan dealer and get brand new ones

    • @Mr.M1STER
      @Mr.M1STER Před 4 lety +20

      Starving kids in Africa could have eaten those windows bro....

    • @chillyfingers123
      @chillyfingers123 Před 4 lety +4

      He’s an annoying douche. They all are lol

  • @its_husky
    @its_husky Před 4 lety +4

    This is like the second engine swap on this Honda, she’s a trooper

  • @SqueakyTron
    @SqueakyTron Před 4 lety +4

    Now you need to work out a charger

  • @johnthorn9842
    @johnthorn9842 Před 4 lety +1

    I love the crazy things your doing👍👍 keep it up😀

  • @JeeTinator
    @JeeTinator Před 4 lety +2

    This is probably the most amazing video I have ever seen in my god damn life. Like and subbed. Lol!

  • @reliableracecars1562
    @reliableracecars1562 Před 4 lety +4

    Sickest video , thanks for letting me be part of it! @rob_carlsen

  • @RICHYwell904
    @RICHYwell904 Před 4 lety +60

    Anyone see the GMC truck pushing them the whole time?

    • @PAPAwheelie568
      @PAPAwheelie568 Před 4 lety +15

      Richard Duggar i didn’t see that when I skipped threw the video the first time😂 that’s awesome just more reasons to never watch them.

    • @malibuac21
      @malibuac21 Před 4 lety +4

      I seen it

    • @esqueue
      @esqueue Před 4 lety +7

      Look how many idiots gave the video a thumb up? It's sad that so many are gullible.

    • @TheDeeves
      @TheDeeves Před 4 lety +5

      esqueue I don’t think it’s actually pushing it :/ the truck is closer and farther during different parts of the video

    • @safecracker112
      @safecracker112 Před 4 lety +8

      Richard Duggar anyone see that same GMC truck pull up beside them while they were driving?

  • @ElectronicsForFun
    @ElectronicsForFun Před 4 lety +2

    where is the footage from outside the car?

  • @Mike-qv6du
    @Mike-qv6du Před 2 lety

    🤣🤣🤣🤣 those hose clamps are killin me 💀💀💀

  • @unclereyofficial
    @unclereyofficial Před 4 lety +11

    Why he gotta smash that 180 tho :(

  • @Sean-nx4pb
    @Sean-nx4pb Před 4 lety +3

    Dude has no original friends..he changes friends like underwear

    • @calikev3528
      @calikev3528 Před 4 lety

      the one and only business friends, you’ll know about that one day

    • @Sean-nx4pb
      @Sean-nx4pb Před 4 lety

      @@calikev3528 youre an idiot.hes not even friends with any of the dudes he use to have in his videos..one by one they all made videos about him

  • @thegooddevil2000
    @thegooddevil2000 Před 4 lety +1

    You guys dont upload that often but when you do its a fucking banger!

  • @tristan6509
    @tristan6509 Před 4 lety +1

    btw electric motors also works as alternators, so you're probably backfeeding the inverter, and also a motor takes much more power when there is load. those inverters are usually also modified sine wave and not pure sine wave, and the rating is also usually the peak and not the continuous.

  • @xion2020
    @xion2020 Před 4 lety +3

    omg yes i see the truck pushing them with the tire between the car bumper and truck lmfao!!!!!

  • @alexyoungberg5232
    @alexyoungberg5232 Před 4 lety +16

    *What the hell kind of rubber was that belt made of??*

    • @lshxggyl
      @lshxggyl Před 4 lety

      not sure but the belt on my 95 Galant is nylon

  • @Hittin2thabass
    @Hittin2thabass Před 4 lety

    Man we need more crazy videos from you guys

  • @michaelkohlmann6879
    @michaelkohlmann6879 Před 4 lety

    You guys hack everything together all the time lol!! I’m suprised you guys are still alive 😂

  • @ClassicJunk88
    @ClassicJunk88 Před 4 lety +4

    orion the type of ninja to say somethin is 'suspect'

  • @luis42963
    @luis42963 Před 4 lety +3

    Test 2! Try using better batteries go with used agm. Charge them up, and fix your connections. The loose connections caused excessive heat and voltage drop.

  • @KNightstyleZ
    @KNightstyleZ Před 4 lety +2

    *You guys are Legends, iam dieing of laughter*

  • @Angel-co9yx
    @Angel-co9yx Před 4 lety +1

    You guys need to post more

  • @CaitlynCoser590
    @CaitlynCoser590 Před 4 lety +3

    When you have a nice car with no engine and you’re on budget. I’ma try this when i graduate.

  • @hunterpetrovich1460
    @hunterpetrovich1460 Před 4 lety +3

    "runs like a sewing machine"

  • @angelvargas4486
    @angelvargas4486 Před 4 lety +2

    That’s was awesome
    I wish I was there driving it 😂
    Looks like so much fun 😆

  • @parkerkostyra1509
    @parkerkostyra1509 Před 4 lety +2

    Wire a momentary contact switch to shift knob, put inverter on pully setup and bigger inverter. You might have something there, if you go with a industrial grinder motor so it holds up better.

  • @jacechatman2703
    @jacechatman2703 Před 4 lety +32

    I always enjoy your vids mainly because it reminds me of my friends we do similar things with car and tractors, we are just some stokes county boys, as always love the vids and keep up the great work.

    • @tylerblubaugh5549
      @tylerblubaugh5549 Před 4 lety +1

      Dude I legit think if u tried u could actually make this work

    • @onefastegcoupe
      @onefastegcoupe Před 4 lety

      Real Street N.C. ⛽💫 running everything from mopeds to tractors but best believe we makin noise

  • @sullivansouza2709
    @sullivansouza2709 Před 4 lety +5

    maybe it was because of budget but next time use any other battery type BESIDES those lead acid bricks because they are heavy and only like 12 volts lol

  • @VidiSLTU
    @VidiSLTU Před 4 lety

    Cool idea. 😀
    That reactions: second, third, omg, still riding.. 😀😀😀

  • @shaneintegra
    @shaneintegra Před 4 lety +1

    I didn't know you guys were in Washington. Love your content btw! 😊

  • @wakiilamode950
    @wakiilamode950 Před 4 lety +3

    THE ALL NEW TESDA ONLY ON LIFE OD 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Schroo
    @Schroo Před 4 lety +21

    This video sponsored by Collection Shield 360 credit reapir

    • @arturo762
      @arturo762 Před 4 lety +6

      When you're desperate, anyone is sponsor worthy.

    • @Darkest_matter
      @Darkest_matter Před 4 lety

      repair your credit cos u got a tesla instead of this lol

  • @terranceevans6868
    @terranceevans6868 Před 4 lety

    Y'all super bad ass.. Dope tutorial!!!

  • @il2xcell887
    @il2xcell887 Před 4 lety +1

    Hook the on and off up to the clutch neutral switch so the clutch pedal shuts the motor off when switching gears

  • @usamamughal3223
    @usamamughal3223 Před 4 lety +3

    Hay congratulations you really successful electric vehicle 😂👍🏻 jobs done i can't believe you run-up car on induction motor i really impressed your work 🤣 let's success more than more

  • @chrisnguyen863
    @chrisnguyen863 Před 4 lety +6

    Next you need to bag a car using only office chair lift cylinders 😂😂

  • @jr.helmer2701
    @jr.helmer2701 Před 4 lety +2

    Sick content with the Honda boys

  • @kflmiami4203
    @kflmiami4203 Před 4 lety

    This is the best Jehu Garcia How to tutorial Sept 2019

  • @johnm6279
    @johnm6279 Před 4 lety +3

    Battery ends on Amazon for $1.50 in bulk 🤘🏻😜

  • @WorkingforGODglobal
    @WorkingforGODglobal Před 4 lety +10

    Mad Buggers.... but you've just leapfrogged 9 decades of deception that the Auto Industry has been holding us back on.
    Great work Boyz

    • @sharefactor
      @sharefactor Před 3 lety

      Now ask about the range provided by those old school heavy lead-acid batteries...

  • @MrWayneploof
    @MrWayneploof Před 4 lety +1

    Looks like you kids are having a lot of fun and doing any kind of stuff like this is great it keep a guy out of trouble keep it up guys

  • @ryanquick94
    @ryanquick94 Před 3 lety

    you guys make the best videos lol

  • @caustic2261
    @caustic2261 Před 4 lety +3

    Go to 11:05 a truck is pushing the car they have a tire mounted to the trunk lol good idea but for real bro

    • @xxzenonionnex7658
      @xxzenonionnex7658 Před 4 lety +1

      Looks like it is

    • @cqbcd
      @cqbcd Před 4 lety

      Yeah fake as fuck. Man why do people got to do this shit. Unsub

    • @naxzed_it
      @naxzed_it Před 4 lety

      Do you not realise the truck would crush the car even with a tire

    • @caustic2261
      @caustic2261 Před 4 lety

      @@naxzed_it you do realize they used this same trick to push another car in the past right clown boy

  • @lotusentertainment5948
    @lotusentertainment5948 Před 4 lety +6

    I just realized how triggered I got when one of the guys busted out the rear windows in the 240

  • @firehawk6188
    @firehawk6188 Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome channel. Some locals! I thought they shut all the chicken coops down up there.
    Keep it up.

  • @jt-bg6ey
    @jt-bg6ey Před 4 lety

    ha ha just found you guys love the videos

  • @ugh2668
    @ugh2668 Před 4 lety +3

    YESSSS A MANUAL ELECTRIC!!!!!

  • @WeisserAudi
    @WeisserAudi Před 4 lety +3

    A manual electric car? Could prolly smoke a Ferrari

  • @topg1964
    @topg1964 Před 4 lety

    This is the best fucking channel man don’t ever change this content 😂😂

  • @domgutta6389
    @domgutta6389 Před 4 lety +2

    I love your vids and your the best 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @Rynooe
    @Rynooe Před 4 lety +3

    first minute into the video. Some shenanigans already going down. You see a guy jumping up and down on the car trying to get the boat motor out saying "the shocks are bad." Low-key would love for him to be my mechanic!!! One of the many reasons i love this channel

  • @GTO2710
    @GTO2710 Před 4 lety +3

    I'm actually impressed lol

  • @andyblanco9998
    @andyblanco9998 Před 4 lety

    Good to see you and chow are still alive . Lol

  • @AwakeGucci
    @AwakeGucci Před 4 lety +2

    Been a long way since the LMTC days damn lol

  • @esqueue
    @esqueue Před 4 lety +13

    8.8 thousand people didn't see the truck pushing them from behind or know basic electronics? People, educate yourselves in simple electronics to know that this is not happening. Spinning the wheels is not the same as pulling nearly 2000 pounds. I'm guessing that you would need at least a 20:1 ratio to even move that car with his current setup. That's most likely a ½
    - ¼ horse power motor. The 13+ hp motor barely moved it with that much weight. Stop being fooled by people on CZcams playing you for idiots.
    There is NO WAY that that motor will move the car in their current setup. That motor has almost zero power. An average person could output significantly more power with a bicycle and will not get that car moving that fast with that many people in it on a flat ground. The power inverter isn't capable of outputting enough current to move that car. You had the batteries wired in parallel which means 12 volts. 12 volts is not enough power for a wheel chair or even a bicycle for that matter. 24v bicycles are complete trash and 36 volts are for beginners.

    • @maki9670
      @maki9670 Před 4 lety

      True

    • @fewturegaming5399
      @fewturegaming5399 Před 4 lety

      So if everything you are saying is true who is pushing them at 10:30 cause the truck is next to them not behind them

    • @TurboTurdBurglar
      @TurboTurdBurglar Před 4 lety +1

      a aron 420 almost the whole time they were driving the truck was pushing them you blind bat. Video was a scam

    • @esqueue
      @esqueue Před 4 lety

      @@fewturegaming5399 inertia? Downhill? The setup absolutely cannot work.

  • @laxsdd
    @laxsdd Před 4 lety +44

    1st gear : ...
    2nd gear : ...
    3rd gear : ...
    4th gear : baaaaa
    5th gear : BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
    vtec with a electirc motor and its can manualy opening :D

  • @aku7598
    @aku7598 Před 4 lety +2

    maybe add super capacitor for starting torque..