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When did $1500 become not a lot of money
?
When you weren't paying attention.
Around 2015.
For a pedal board its not they get pricey fast.
@Toxic Potato correct although in this case, I know a lot of bass players that have had the AOU damaged pretty easily...
That Raw DI is pretty good in itself!
IKR?
That Kiesel tho right?
That is what I thought.
How to get a great bass sound, modern style:
Step 1: Get a dingwall (any will do)
Step 2: Get a darkglass distortion (any will do)
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit
Step 3: practice lol
@@antagonistofficial389 that's step 0 ;)
step 0 is get rich
@@DrGodinho alright 😂😂😂
Unpopular opinion but I hate that combo . I`m more of a Fender Jazz , MXR Kinda guy
That Tyler frequency splitter is awesome!
Getting one myself now
Reminds me so much of the latest glassjaw album. Easily my favorite recorded aggressive bass tone and this is almost spot on to it.
my board is set up primarily for playing Bass in a proggy metal band but I also play a little Guitar.
Signal chain is:
1. Digitech Jimi Hendrix Wah. (for the face searing Purple Haze fuzz tone and Machine Gun Univibe)
2. Boss GT1B bass processor with FS7 expansion footswitch. (for funky QFilter, trippy Tera Echo, synths, octaves, looping, delays, Wah, bitcrushing, solo boost... allsortsa craaaazyness)
3. Boss OS2 (overdrive blended with distortion as a dB booster)
4. Devin Townsend Ocean Machine dual-delay + reverb. (an AWESOME pedal - for psychedelia, atmosphere, Loops, creepiness... and Total. Sonic. Destruction)
5. Digitech Jam Man Solo XT with FSX3 expansion footswitch. (for one shot samples and electronica looped beats and harsh samples)
6. Boss BF2 Flanger (for astral travel) same one that Justin Chancellor uses 😜 apparently)
7. Morley Wah / volume. (for when it all gets too mental and I have to shut the volume off!)
Played thru a Cliff Burton Aria Pro 2 and a 400w bass amp 😀
Guitars: Line 6 variax, and Jackson JSX94 😉
Cool video. If anyone is looking to get this sound and is on a budget there is an alternative which sort of does the same thing.
The Tech 21 DP-3X splits the signal, compresses the low end, distorts the mids and highs, has a XLR with a cab sim (you just can't load IR's onto it) and has a tuner built in.
Whilst it may not have as many features of this board it certainly is cheaper and you can still get a variety of tones, including pretty much all those shown in this video.
Can One use the boss line selector instead ? Just asking
The high end only sound is basically Nolly's tone in Periphery.
Darkglass does wonderful things to your gritty tone
I can confirm this
Being in a band with one guitar I have come to pretty similar setup - a booster, that horrible tuner, mxr compressor, Darkglass b7k and that noise gate in the end :) I have already decided to upgrade to new alpha omega but that frequency splitter turns into my priority now - I like the option for clean low end :) Thank you!
Ludmil Stamboliyski check out the Darkglass X7, you could save yourself a pedal!
The Tech 21 dUg Pinnick pedal is a real good pre amp/ distortion type pedal also. Plus you can never go wrong with a plain old Sans Amp DI bass driver pedal too. I have all of these, Dark Glass, Tech 21 and the Sans Amp and I use them on two separate boards. One is a small grab and go fly rig type and the other is my main board which is pretty large. That board has all my time bassed stuff , delay, chorus, octave , harmonizer.
A tuner, alpha omega, Sans Amp, hyper luminal ...done!!
Or just a sansamp, really.
Could work.
sans amp has silly drive if you want modern tone and you play active 5 string bass. The B string will have just fuzz, without clang in it.
I use ,Alpha omega ultra with Keeley Bassist Compressor which has the threshold and gain so you can work with your noise as well, for extra drive got the Jam Pedals Rattler Bass Overdrive which have dist and overdrive, and you can blend them as well and darkglass harmonic booster for the nice clean sygnal. But the real game changer is the KMA Audio Machines Tyler, this one is making +1000 tones to the library, didn't know this pedal until checked this video.;3
Maybe its just me but i would kill for just that clean tone
Thanks for the Lightning Bolt mention, I discovered some thing good.
LOVE LIGHTNING BOLT
THIS is a really nice new modern bass setup, I would replace the tuner and the fuzz and add in an octive... but the Tyler with COMP on low end and Alpha Omega on highs IS the sound.
The first pedal is what's called a CROSSOVER. They've been widely used, by bass players in particular, since the early 1970's (John Entwistle used them). My Ampeg SVT 4 PRO Amplifier had an internal crossover, and the frequency of the BI-AMP (another term for this) split was also controllable. I could also select to run the high and low to separate power amp circuits, and then onto, obviously, separate speaker outputs. I ran the separate power amp circuits into an 18" ElectroVoice in a ported cab, and 4 X 10" Celestians with a piezo horn in a sealed cabinet, both cabinets built by Sonic in Cudahy, Wisconsin. I was always told that I had great bass tones through that rig, playing jazz, funk, blues, rock, a little country, and a lot of metal.
I liked my crossover set fairly low.
Never heard of that Tyler pedal, great find man.
I was just thinking the same thing......
Same
Same
Same
Facts!
Darkglass stuffs are must 😎
Arc2301 The Ultra’s are expensive, but they also have a CabSim ,Graphic EQ, DI Out and happen to have the best metal distortion circuits. If you got it all separately you;d spend a lot more and take up way more room
The Tech 21 GED-2112 splits the signal and distorts the highs, all in one rackspace device, my son has one, it's good. Now they have it in a pedal too, the SansAmp YYZ. It's a great time to be a musician!
I use the tech 21 DP3X and it gets me that sound up until the fuzz pedal brutality. All in one pedal that fits in a guitar case/bag. But thanks for showing the principal of splitting the bass frequency spectrum. I've been bi-amping for years before I knew this was a real thing.
I play a Bass VI using a dP-3X as the backbone, feeding a SoulPOG in before it, and PitchFork, Bass Chorus Deluxe, and Grand Canyon in afterward. The dP-3X is EVERYTHING except a power section. A fantastic sound, incredible value.
Wanted to let you know that this specific comment is what made me buy a DP-3X.
Cheers
Cool setup but I would have suggested running just the fuzz in the high end of the splitter and running the combined output into the Darkglass with the cab sim, I think the cab sim helps the low end sound less DI like and glues the sound together more and running a slight drive on the full sound to emulate a valve amp and cab a little and If you want more you can add the fuzz on which will distort just the high end.
i do split my signal with the tyler too its awesome this is what i’m going for
hi pass : boss od 2 (light grit and boost) darkglass b7ku (clean preamp + distortion)
Low pass : darkglass super symmetry (heavily compressed ) nether octaver
and then after the tyler my sentry noiste gate to make my rig silent !
but i think i’ll buy another preamp to adjust the EQ of the lowpass channel
Hey if you have a pedal board similar where does the bas s plug in at?
We have Polish manufacture called ChaosFX and he made freq split pedal about 3 years ago. All handmade, great price. I can't recommend it enought. Peace ✌️
I might have to invest in that frequency splitter, save me from having to carry around my 4u flight case with dual crossover and EQ in it! In case anyone's interested, my bass goes wireless into the rack, into a rack tuner, through an octave pedal, into the first channel of the crossover, that splits it high into a fuzz, flanger, chorus, phaser, delay, and low has an envelope follower and slight overdrive, these then get mixed together and fed into the other crossover, with a slightly different crossover frequency. High goes to a laney ironheart guitar combo 2x12, and low goes into a laney bass head with 1x15 and 4x10. There is also a second output before the crossover, which goes into a DI and off to front of house
My bass pedalboard is simple yet effective:
Line 6 wireless/cable in> boss tuner pedal> mxr bass chorus> mxr bass di + for my preamp/di plus my main grit/crunch tone almost always on like 95% of the time. Take a dirt di from the mxr and a clean di from the parallel out on the mxr, chorus for the clean parts with the clean chorus/delay guitar parts, occasionally with the dirty. Trying to get the Dunlop bass wah to throw on there, maybe a second drive pedal I'm liking the boss bass driver a lot. Right now I'm using the mids control on my bass to boost into a "lead tone" to cut through the guitars. But other then that it's a simple setup that covers all bases and can go through any style (punk, hard rock, alternative, metal, death metal, metalcore, deathcore, hardcore ect.) :) \m/
Awesome! Frequency splitting is awesome on Bass. You want distorted mids/highs and clean lows nothing beats it. I have a similar setup using an FEA DB-CL to route my highs through a Mastotron Fuzz and keep my lows clean and isolated, then recombine my signal in a Source Audio Aftershock where I EQ each signal path individually and combine them back into one signal. Synth fuzz with clean lows without out of place clean highs. 👌🏼
Alpha omega needs full frequency to sound the best methinks
I can't judge the sound without hearing it in a mix.
without not hearing in a mix you mean? This is metal after all
You didn't get the gift?
czcams.com/video/N0lbYoEZH8I/video.html
The same principle but executed in a DAW. Look it up
You can judge it anyways, nothing's stopping you.
Ya true. Not saying the tone is bad but i really think the high end is way too harsh
This is the dUg Pinnick method of bass tone (simplified) prior to Tech 21 and dUg hooking up. Awesome.
Ohhh how does that work?
@@ibrajimenez2098 dUg would split the frequency of his bass signal (Usually through a complex rack system). He'd run his low end signal to what ever bass system he was endorsing at the time (Run clean with no distortion) and then run the high end to a Traynor guitar head and distort/overdrive JUST that signal and then blend the two for his bass tone. His Tech 21 amp and some what recently his Tech 21 pedal allow you to do this with out splitting the signal to two separate amps.
@@Bigscott4130 whaaat sounds sweet ... But too complicated... Ill just use the alpha Omega 900
@@ibrajimenez2098 The Tech 21 DP-3X dUg Pinnick Pedal is much cheaper.
dude ... I found that to be a really nice and thought through signalway and I'm not even a bass player
Very nice idea. I've been thinking up a similar concept. I would also suggest the HX Stomp. Honestly, I hate Helix distortion sounds but the Stomp provides easy signal manipulations. It can split your signal, apply various filters, perhaps compressors and so on.
Dat sound is INSANE!!!!
"so this is the high pass sound"
*Fart sounds*
The thing that splits high and low frequencies is a crossover. Been around for a long time. My Ampeg SVT 4 Pro has one, works great.👍🏿
That's what I was thinking. Nothing new. Lots of ways to do this. Good vid though.
@@DrSimonBignell agreed! I LOVED using the bi-amp/crossover on my SVT 4 Pro, running the low end into a ported cab with a 1x18" ElectroVoice, and the rest into a closed 4x10" cab (with a horn). Both cabs were made by Sonic in Wisconsin, a very underrated maker of audio equipment. Using a good crossover absolutely does make a difference on the sound quality, the dynamics, the clarity across the frequency spectrum, the "thickness" and punch at the low end, and on the "health" of your speakers over their lifetime. For some people these are new concepts to learn. I had the advantage, even as a young child, of having relatives who were/are musicians and audiophiles, so I got an early education in how to select and run audio equipment, how to discern and dial-in good tones, and what each component does/doesn't (or should/shouldn't) do.
Sorry for the yammering.
Take care.
Love that Tyler pedal. This may be the 18th time I’ve watched this video just because of that amazing pedal. Cheers
I used this to help me build my metal bass pedalboard. I use a Big Muff Pi for fuzz but also added a Sansamp DI, a Geezer Butler Wah, a Morley Power Wah Fuzz, a TS9, a Yamaha SPX90 rackmount for chorus through a Ampeg SVT Classic to a Ampeg 8x10 cab. Plus got a Ampeg SVT-4 Pro, and a GK800RB. Got 6 Fender P Basses, a Fender Duff P/J bass, a Jackson X bass, a Gibson Thunderbird, an Aria SB-1000CB, an ESP Surveyor modded with Frank Bello EMG's, a Epiphone Accu Bass, and a Rickenbacker 4003. Maybe I'll be able to get a decent sound one day lol
Tuner - Compressor - Darkglass X-7 - Gate. Does the same thing, fits a smaller pedalboard and is way cheaper. Paid around 600€ for that, including the pedalboard, and couldn't be happier. Only thing missing is the cab sim, but I don't need that right now. A cab sim is not very useful live before you're playing big enough stages so you don't need an amp. At pubs or small clubs, you're gonna take the amp with you because you're lucky to even get your own monitor as a bass player.
That awkward moment when the dry signal into pro tools, sounds better than hitting it with $2500
I liked several of your videos, but this one is a real KILLER as far as I am concerned!!! Thank you so much for doing what was kind of an eye opener for me!
Cheers and keep it up!
23:05 best part
I'm in the process of having the same setup. Just replacing the darkglass pedal with the darkglass ADAM. I have a show this Friday and I'm selling my helix to do this. So I'm stoked for it
Absolutely love the way this sound is build up. All elements at the right spot.
Can One use the boss line selector instead ? Just asking
Bizarrely similar to how I've had my rig working just through my own trial and error. I use a Boss LS-2 to split my signal and run both loops in parallel, with one side running through FX and the other side clean, but I run my comp in front and a Sansamp after, both always on, so that I can use the footswitch on the LS-2 to switch out all FX and get a good clean(ish) sound when I want with a single button press - really useful for quick and massive changes in sound on certain songs. I really like the idea of the Tyler as it has a lot more options for routing and control, but that thing is huge! Would have to take stuff off my board to fit it on and that is NOT gonna happen!
I run same stuff, idk if the ls2 does the same job as the tyler.. bass ->A sansamp, for drive the highs and return into the boss pedal; B multicomp to comp the clean sound keeping my low end and presence then? Am I still able to use sansamp D.I with all the processed sound? I dont use an amp
I said I wasn't gonna make a bass pedal board, but after this video I just might. I think the best thing about that whole setup is being able to compress the low end separately. Sick setup man. Now I need a Tyler.
The fact that it's called Tyler given what's going on in meme-land right now is awesome.
maybe a tad overboard with the distortion, but I really like it
I was thinking there wasn't enough distortion choices... But, I've been know to Stoner/Doom for hours... I am going to check out that hexed fuzz though, it seems to really kick it...
Listen to some isolated Cliff Burton tracks... sounds like dog shit, but fits in the mix.
I bought that Tyler freq splitter after seeing this.. things a beast.. I’ve been trying to figure out Zozobra’s bass tone, which I think was achieved by having two separate bass tracks, one clean and one distorted and then mixed on the recording. Having a way to achieve that live is rad.
Can One use the boss line selector instead ? Just asking
@@Roberto-tc1fd it won't have the same features as the Tyler Keeley
you can cover 3 of these pedals with the darklgass X7 or ultra.. save $1,000
@@sirborges that's rough to hear bro :(
our bassist recently got a Tantrum 2-stage overdrive/distortion pedal for his bass, and the tones he gets are absolutely maniacal
... Or just use a DG X7
You could, but what if you wanna use different drive sounds to flavour your tone?
@@KMAMachines Then add another drive pedal, that's what I do
Or have more control on your compression.
@@xLowEndx Or put chorus or wah on your high end
@@joshstarkey8883 agreed. The Tyler allows for so much flexibility.
I put the tuner at the end. This is so the mute also mutes the pedals and any noise from them including 60cycle hum or hiss will be muted as well.
that way your tuner will have the noise from all the pedals before it.... you will not have a proper tuner that way. tuner goes in first, ALWAYS, no exceptions. if you feel like there is noise even when the bass is not on, get a gate and put it in the chain.
Tyler frequency splitter + HyperLuminal + Alpha/Omega = X7 from Darkglass..? Not exactly the sound but almost the functionality without the loops in both sections.
Exactly what I was thinking. I’ve done what’s shown in the video live as well as used the X7 live and unfortunately for my taste the X7 still does it better
That's the route that I had gone. I use a loop switcher and bounce between nothing, X7, or tech21 YYZ. Gives me clean, crunch, hi gain without dropping any lows, or over-processing my signal.
Completely right, but keep in mind that you are limited to the X7 dirt sound - Tyler lifts your set up to many more possibilities
Did you check the Dark Glass X pedals? Pretty much the Tyler, Comp on low and distortion on high, in one box (plus a nice EQ). It needs some time to tweak it but it's... Huge!
It could literally replace most of his pedalboard tbh
I have a similar setup using my Rickenbacker rick'o'sound.
Neck pickup to a LM3, bridge to a B3K. I mix them up with a Boss LS2 and then the alpha omega ultra.
I keep a clean low end with the mix knob on the AO and I can get a better omega distortion with the low end present.
Damn this sounds flipping spicy
Didnt know about the Tyler splitter, but was using the One Control Blender pedal to achieve the same purpose, with a fortin Grind in the loop for the high end. :)
I love how now days this hole pedalboard is the dart glass x series
I can't believe I watched this whole video
yeah, it sounds like garbage
I have to add a shout for the JPTR katastrophe as an always on distortion for bass.
Frequency splitter should be a killer pedal! I was thinking to achieve similar shound with Boss LS-2 (Line selector), but with this it's much easier, you have to cope with frequencies!
Thanks for the video!
To split bass signal, you can (and I do) use a Rolls SX21 Tiny Two-Way Crossover. I send high and low output to two different bass heads, EQed differently, with highs coming out a 4x10 cab, and lows coming out a 1x15.
I run all effects through the high signal chain, with only a compressor on the low signal chain.
Another way for live...
Separate rigs for highs and lows.
ABY pedal, and separate HPF / LPF signal paths.
I also use an octaver for my high signal.
You get better speaker response.
Around 15:45 is the tone in after. I play with one guitarist so like a thick fat slap coming from my amp. I play through sansamp and ashdown drive which in honesty you can get a banging tone from despite what people say about it. Investing in the dark glass compressor next to tighten it right up
can anyone judge my rig? I use a Rickenbacker 4003 and i use the Rick-O-Sound for the setup.
The neck pickup goes through:
Modified Boss CS-3
ZVex Basstortion
Morley Cliff Burton Signature PFW
USA Big Muff π
Electro Harmonix Nano Bass Balls
ZVex Instant Lo-Fi Junky
Mu-Tron Phasor III
Digitech Bass Whammy
The bridge pickup goes right through a Sansamp VT Bass DI
The amps used are both Ampeg BA-112 v2
My ideal pedal bass rig would be:
Buffer > TC Polytune Mini > Cali 76 compressor > Darkglass B7K Ultra (clean)/Darkglass Alpha/Omega (grit) > Fortin Zuul mini (running DI from the buffer to the side input) 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Jeffery Carel my ideal bass pedal rig is a tuner switch for a peterson strobe tuner and a valve head being pushed hard!
Another badass 🔥 video bro. Like I said before, hard to pick a best video. Super informative!
My pedalboard has the same basic principle, but it's defintely not the same! The bass goes to a tuner and then to a Fender ABY that splits the signal in two. The A side just has a compressor, the B side has a Samsamp with everything to 10. There are two graphic EQ's on both signal chains, on the A side (clean side) it's basically scooping out all the mids. On the B side, the dirt side, it's doing the exact opposite and boosting the mids while subtracting the highs and lows. This then gets blended back together again, hit hard with another compressor to really melt it all together and then just straight into front of house. It sounds gnarly, it's dirt cheap and it really works wonders replicating the digital VST's forming my sound in the studio.
Deluxe Bass Big Muff Pi has fuzz, with built in frequency splitter and noise gate.
Just sayin’.
Can recomend. Using it with compressor into Ampeg SVT3 Pro and I get great bass tones.
I'm finding it tuff to use
jesse noneofyobussines How so?
@@Oddball-dc2qt seems gate sometimes kills notes instead of just Ring
jesse noneofyobussines Sounds like you have the noise gate too high, or you need to just disable that part when you want extended sustain. All noise gates will do that.
No joke, by the time the Ernie Ball logo came out, my mouth was watering because the tone was really tasty.
I only use compression and distortion. 2- pedals To get my rock and metal tones I want. Along with the amps controls. And the controls on my different basses I have. Which I keep in different tunings depending on what songs I'm playing. And I only play hard rock classics and metal classic songs. And some 90's grunge rock classics. It took me a few years of buying different bass amps and many different types of pedals to really get the tones that I was really looking for. Tones that can be played along with the music and the bass sound I wanted to have for my personal experimenting around with. And after all of that buying and selling of different amps and pedals I finally was able to narrow it all down to what I have now. It was all frustrating and pretty fun going through all of that those first years of playing. Great teacher you are Trey. keep up the great work you do for us bassist.🙂\m/
Thans for making me aware of that Tyler thing. You can tell hem they'll get a sell because of you. I've been pulling that trick with a Radial ABY and 2 amps for years which I couldn't bring live and needed to trust the venue's sound guy for my low end signal. Thanks again for this video.
I like the idea of the Tyler pedal. I wonder if it would be easy to build DIY.
If I could have a freq splitter like that, the high end would be: Phaser, Chorus, and Fuzz. Then the low end would be a comp just like you have it there. After the splitter at the end of the chain: A pitch shifter with a treadle like a Whammy or something and a graph or parametric EQ. No cab sim because I play through a PG Bias Head with a cab sim on it.
I like having a clean, powerful, extremely compressed bottom-end and I mix that with a (also compressed) distorted top end. The mids depend on the setup, you need to listen what sounds better, the distorted or clean mids.
They make the X7 for exactly this ^ It's a classic trick used for ages now in a pedal preamp form, but it's also easy enough to do yourself. Useful though...
I love the Tyler so much, especially the deluxe edition which adds a few sprinkles on top.
I am using a very similar setup although I am going into a Ibanez Pentatone PTPre with the High-Pass. I tried the AOU aswell as a Sansamp but since we are dealing with high frequencies I think a guitarpedal is much better placed here.
After the Tyler I go into my Sansamp to give it that little bit of extra. Not adding a lot of drive, just thickening the sound overall and making it richer - works great for me.
I still haven't found my favourite compressor. Currently I am switching between the MXR Studio Compressor and the Empress.
all you need is the alpha omega or other dark glass preamp and maybe the noise killer
Homie, that Hexed fuzz custom is impossible to find. It sounds so good.
I'm asking myself if it's possible to avoid the Tyler.
Ls2, then sr1->darkglass with only the highs, as I see there (or any other distortion pedal with t/m/b control) for distortion
ch2->little eq pedal to cut all the highs with and get the clean bass signal... With the Ls2 you choose the mix of sr1 and sr2... And you're done. Am I wrong?
B7k, super symmetry, and a strobe tuner for funzies. That's my board real simple real light.
Simple metal rig: Sansamp Bass Driver DI > Klon > Boss Bass Driver BB-1X
Gives some natural compression
I am so tired of hearing this bass sound in metal. Time to stop ripping off Nolly's tone and do something different, fellow bassists.
I agree, I'm also not a fan of this tone as it sounds very scooped and weak
For the love of Satan, Trey, turn that gain down
It's not his tone, and scooped mids are needed for modern metal.
@@lennyjg8968 not true, as it takes away the instruments presence in the mix if the main frequency the instrument is heard from is cut out
@@gregthesalad495 that's why you get a tyler lmao
Thank you for the video and the share.
I have the following set up. Kindly advise if something seems wrong. And am after MESHUGGAH sound (bass)
1) Boss Tu3 Tuner to
2) EBS Multi compressor to
3) Boss Overdrive to
4) Ibanez Bass Tube creamer (TS9B) to
5) Ibanez Tube screamer to
6) Boss Metalzone (MT2) to
7) US Metal rectifier to
8) DOD Death Metal pedal to
9) Darkglass B7K to
10) Zoom B3 processor to
11) Boss Equalizer to
12) Noise gate to the amp/headphones
omfg tuning by ear at stage volume is the easiest way for a band to loose my attention
Exactly, rather stay and see someone with a headstock tuner and in tune as someone out of tune that claim's these are for beginners lol
g. koch its not just beginners that tune by ear on stage
Tell that to Jimi Hendrix, haha.
Cliff Burton did it, but he was also a god, whereas I am a piss ant.
I have been thinking really hard about building a frequency splitter. I probably will now. Just to see how far under 250$ I can get it.
me: "how did i miss this?"
*looks at bell icon*
"......."
My rig these days is bias fx into a diamond bass compressor and a alpha Omega ultra. Great video man!
I've been using this sort of setup after watching this video a couple years back on my main rig. The concept of splitting the frequencies between clean and dirty seems like a no-brainer for bassists. That being said, I have not seen any competition or innovations on this concept - only KMA seems to have something exactly like this. Does anyone else use this tonal technique or something similar or are people mostly throwing a Darkglass in front of their amp and calling it a day? I've also had luck using an ABY pedal to run a bass amp (clean) and a guitar amp (dirty) simultaneously but that is just too much gear and (for some) too much signal to have to send out.
Would you be able to have a link how exactly the chain is run? I'm confused on it
Thats a very interesting board, especially that Tyler! I will say, if you need a surprisingly good tuner for not a lot of money for Bass, the Blaxx tuner is the shit! It picks up the bottom B string better than any other tuner I've used, including the Boss tuner! Other than that, the main things that will stay on my board are my Eden WTDI, TC Electronic Hypergravity Comp and EHX Bass Soul Food. All great pedals and very versetile for what I need.
First thought was, "you can't make a good rough tone bass pedal board without dark glass pedals. They better have one."
They have 2... I'm interested.
I mean, that's kinda false, you can definitely do a great metal tone without darkglass pedals.
Boss odb 3 with the bass turned down, and the Sansamp in 10-12 o clock drive and bass/presence boosted for loss of low end, your best bet for a good metal bass tone with different tools
Great vid. I can't remember if I've seen your channel before but you've got good content. Thanks.
I really like that tone for some reason
W000000t! I searched for ages for a device like the The Frequency Splitter from Tyler, but found none. In the end I got me a Boss LS-2 Line Selector and two Boss GEB-7 Bass Equalizer for the job. It works nicely but are covering a lot of pedal real estate and those EQ introduce some hiss into the chain. Not by much, but when you distort the high frequency signal you notice it. It is sooooo great you mention this pedal!
Can One use the boss line selector instead ? Just asking tell us more..
@@Roberto-tc1fd Sure! The LS-2 has the option to split the signal in two, having a level control for booth channels and merge the signal from both loops again. So you put one EQ into each of the loops. Better would be a low pass and a high pass filter, but those you don't have normally at hand. Good parametric EQs would be better then graphic ones, but they are much more uncommon.
You dial in the EQ/filter in such a way, you have one loop dedicated for the low tones and another for the mids and highs.
For the low/mid I used my old GEB-7 and pulled the sliders for 50, 120, 400hz full up to +15db, let the 500hz slider at 0db, and pulled the sliders for 800, 4.5k and 10k full down. That was my low/mid channel.
For the mid/highs loop I took another GEB-7 and pulled 50, 120 full down, 400hz was at +6db and 500, 800, 4.5 and 10k were at +15db.
That way you have +/-30db difference between the highs and the lows.
You have to fiddle with the gain knob on the EQs and channel knobs on the LS-2 to get the same level compared to the bypassed LS-2. Took some pedal space (LS-2 and two EQ) but did the job fairly well. +/-30db difference were enough for most dirt pedal to turn the bass not into a sludgy mess.
In the low pass channel you put something like a compressor (forcefield from TC in my cass) after the EQ and I used a Behringer BDI 21 for just a little bit of growl. No real full bore distortion, only just a tiny bit of saturation. So that signal was relative clean.
For the high/mid loop I used generic guitar dirt pedals. In my case it was a TS9 clone, Behringer VT999 Vintage Tube Monster (Ibanez TK999 tube king clone) and a Marshall Gov'nor. All three set relatively low, but in combination it sounded like a cranked marshal.
The sound in the high frets is something like an hair metal rythm guitar and in the low frets something you normally only get with double amping. Imagine a huge ampeg stack with a cranked marshall (something like ‚Murder One‘) in combination, but the marshal not getting muddy.
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I play in a 3 piece Shoegaze band and my setup is a darkglass b3k clone into a rat. The b3k clone handles the general gritty overdriven bass tone while the rat is set to fuzz.
3:38 ...or maybe you can buy a parallel loop pedal like the Carl Martin Paraloop for $70. Then you have a dry / wet parallel loop mixer: the dry loop can be your normal undistorted bass tone and you mix in the wet signal, just put an EQ pedal there to cut the lows and then comes your distortion pedal and there you go: you have replaced the Tyler for fraction of the price.
You'd need a second EQ pedal to remove the clean highs... this replaces two eq pedals and a bunch of cables in a smaller form factor and comparable price, when you factor in its full capabilities.
Most EQ pedals only cut -12db which is not the same as lo/hi pass.
Would the Darkglass microtubes ultra be even better? It has for the distortion the following controls: Low comp, low level, high level anda high distortion.
It seems like the same you're doing here, compressing the lows and distorting highs and mids.
You can go, noise gate, tuner, fuzz and microtubes ultra, and you get the DI out at the end to go direct to the PA.
Gets me a bit of a Knocked Loose bass tone vibe.
I just have my Ibanez SRFF805 Into my Morley PFW and that goes into my Black Arts Toneworks Pharaoh, and then to my amp. It’s simple, but works really well for what I play
crazy, how can you even get any distortion when the "Mix" knob of the Tyler is completely set to the left which means "only low pass signal"? When I set my Tyler like that I really don't hear any high pass signal, like it's supposed to
I think a Clean Boost will be useful for the sound without the compressor!!
damn!, I wish I knew about that Tyler pedal like 6 months ago. Very cool video. Thanks!