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Komentáře • 367

  • @yogran1
    @yogran1 Před 5 lety +445

    When did $1500 become not a lot of money

    • @taunoctua245
      @taunoctua245 Před 5 lety +1

      ?

    • @craigmoran893
      @craigmoran893 Před 5 lety +21

      When you weren't paying attention.

    • @GrandPapa16
      @GrandPapa16 Před 5 lety +18

      Around 2015.

    • @ironblast5
      @ironblast5 Před 5 lety +10

      For a pedal board its not they get pricey fast.

    • @lavadoraautomatica1
      @lavadoraautomatica1 Před 4 lety +2

      @Toxic Potato correct although in this case, I know a lot of bass players that have had the AOU damaged pretty easily...

  • @rubbRdukz
    @rubbRdukz Před 5 lety +81

    That Raw DI is pretty good in itself!

  • @TheLastCrankers
    @TheLastCrankers Před 4 lety +85

    How to get a great bass sound, modern style:
    Step 1: Get a dingwall (any will do)
    Step 2: Get a darkglass distortion (any will do)
    Step 3: ???
    Step 4: Profit

  • @BoyAditya
    @BoyAditya Před 5 lety +60

    That Tyler frequency splitter is awesome!

  • @matthewzagorski1597
    @matthewzagorski1597 Před 5 lety +26

    Reminds me so much of the latest glassjaw album. Easily my favorite recorded aggressive bass tone and this is almost spot on to it.

  • @RJMelling
    @RJMelling Před 5 lety +4

    my board is set up primarily for playing Bass in a proggy metal band but I also play a little Guitar.
    Signal chain is:
    1. Digitech Jimi Hendrix Wah. (for the face searing Purple Haze fuzz tone and Machine Gun Univibe)
    2. Boss GT1B bass processor with FS7 expansion footswitch. (for funky QFilter, trippy Tera Echo, synths, octaves, looping, delays, Wah, bitcrushing, solo boost... allsortsa craaaazyness)
    3. Boss OS2 (overdrive blended with distortion as a dB booster)
    4. Devin Townsend Ocean Machine dual-delay + reverb. (an AWESOME pedal - for psychedelia, atmosphere, Loops, creepiness... and Total. Sonic. Destruction)
    5. Digitech Jam Man Solo XT with FSX3 expansion footswitch. (for one shot samples and electronica looped beats and harsh samples)
    6. Boss BF2 Flanger (for astral travel) same one that Justin Chancellor uses 😜 apparently)
    7. Morley Wah / volume. (for when it all gets too mental and I have to shut the volume off!)
    Played thru a Cliff Burton Aria Pro 2 and a 400w bass amp 😀
    Guitars: Line 6 variax, and Jackson JSX94 😉

  • @F0dd3r26
    @F0dd3r26 Před 4 lety +5

    Cool video. If anyone is looking to get this sound and is on a budget there is an alternative which sort of does the same thing.
    The Tech 21 DP-3X splits the signal, compresses the low end, distorts the mids and highs, has a XLR with a cab sim (you just can't load IR's onto it) and has a tuner built in.
    Whilst it may not have as many features of this board it certainly is cheaper and you can still get a variety of tones, including pretty much all those shown in this video.

    • @Roberto-tc1fd
      @Roberto-tc1fd Před 4 lety

      Can One use the boss line selector instead ? Just asking

  • @Thegiacobass
    @Thegiacobass Před 5 lety +15

    The high end only sound is basically Nolly's tone in Periphery.

  • @onetymebigtyme
    @onetymebigtyme Před 4 lety +7

    Darkglass does wonderful things to your gritty tone

  • @lsforce
    @lsforce Před 5 lety +15

    Being in a band with one guitar I have come to pretty similar setup - a booster, that horrible tuner, mxr compressor, Darkglass b7k and that noise gate in the end :) I have already decided to upgrade to new alpha omega but that frequency splitter turns into my priority now - I like the option for clean low end :) Thank you!

    • @dancarlson4982
      @dancarlson4982 Před 5 lety +2

      Ludmil Stamboliyski check out the Darkglass X7, you could save yourself a pedal!

  • @gregg4164
    @gregg4164 Před 5 lety +10

    The Tech 21 dUg Pinnick pedal is a real good pre amp/ distortion type pedal also. Plus you can never go wrong with a plain old Sans Amp DI bass driver pedal too. I have all of these, Dark Glass, Tech 21 and the Sans Amp and I use them on two separate boards. One is a small grab and go fly rig type and the other is my main board which is pretty large. That board has all my time bassed stuff , delay, chorus, octave , harmonizer.

  • @edeberstadt5497
    @edeberstadt5497 Před 4 lety +11

    A tuner, alpha omega, Sans Amp, hyper luminal ...done!!

    • @Skelterbane69
      @Skelterbane69 Před 4 lety +3

      Or just a sansamp, really.
      Could work.

    • @deadthmach1
      @deadthmach1 Před 2 měsíci

      sans amp has silly drive if you want modern tone and you play active 5 string bass. The B string will have just fuzz, without clang in it.
      I use ,Alpha omega ultra with Keeley Bassist Compressor which has the threshold and gain so you can work with your noise as well, for extra drive got the Jam Pedals Rattler Bass Overdrive which have dist and overdrive, and you can blend them as well and darkglass harmonic booster for the nice clean sygnal. But the real game changer is the KMA Audio Machines Tyler, this one is making +1000 tones to the library, didn't know this pedal until checked this video.;3

  • @jeremychamplin1078
    @jeremychamplin1078 Před 5 lety +22

    Maybe its just me but i would kill for just that clean tone

  • @bertrandmajorik6589
    @bertrandmajorik6589 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks for the Lightning Bolt mention, I discovered some thing good.

  • @derekmccabe9614
    @derekmccabe9614 Před 4 lety +5

    THIS is a really nice new modern bass setup, I would replace the tuner and the fuzz and add in an octive... but the Tyler with COMP on low end and Alpha Omega on highs IS the sound.

  • @Metalbass10000
    @Metalbass10000 Před 3 lety +1

    The first pedal is what's called a CROSSOVER. They've been widely used, by bass players in particular, since the early 1970's (John Entwistle used them). My Ampeg SVT 4 PRO Amplifier had an internal crossover, and the frequency of the BI-AMP (another term for this) split was also controllable. I could also select to run the high and low to separate power amp circuits, and then onto, obviously, separate speaker outputs. I ran the separate power amp circuits into an 18" ElectroVoice in a ported cab, and 4 X 10" Celestians with a piezo horn in a sealed cabinet, both cabinets built by Sonic in Cudahy, Wisconsin. I was always told that I had great bass tones through that rig, playing jazz, funk, blues, rock, a little country, and a lot of metal.
    I liked my crossover set fairly low.

  • @SHARt_murmur
    @SHARt_murmur Před 5 lety +51

    Never heard of that Tyler pedal, great find man.

  • @wapangjamirofficial
    @wapangjamirofficial Před 5 lety +34

    Darkglass stuffs are must 😎

    • @jobelewis6416
      @jobelewis6416 Před 5 lety +2

      Arc2301 The Ultra’s are expensive, but they also have a CabSim ,Graphic EQ, DI Out and happen to have the best metal distortion circuits. If you got it all separately you;d spend a lot more and take up way more room

  • @jfo3000
    @jfo3000 Před 5 lety +1

    The Tech 21 GED-2112 splits the signal and distorts the highs, all in one rackspace device, my son has one, it's good. Now they have it in a pedal too, the SansAmp YYZ. It's a great time to be a musician!

  • @kellytostada9949
    @kellytostada9949 Před 5 lety +8

    I use the tech 21 DP3X and it gets me that sound up until the fuzz pedal brutality. All in one pedal that fits in a guitar case/bag. But thanks for showing the principal of splitting the bass frequency spectrum. I've been bi-amping for years before I knew this was a real thing.

    • @chrisvalleqatsi
      @chrisvalleqatsi Před 5 lety +2

      I play a Bass VI using a dP-3X as the backbone, feeding a SoulPOG in before it, and PitchFork, Bass Chorus Deluxe, and Grand Canyon in afterward. The dP-3X is EVERYTHING except a power section. A fantastic sound, incredible value.

    • @holdenbrown420
      @holdenbrown420 Před 2 lety

      Wanted to let you know that this specific comment is what made me buy a DP-3X.
      Cheers

  • @GIGeorge23
    @GIGeorge23 Před 5 lety +3

    Cool setup but I would have suggested running just the fuzz in the high end of the splitter and running the combined output into the Darkglass with the cab sim, I think the cab sim helps the low end sound less DI like and glues the sound together more and running a slight drive on the full sound to emulate a valve amp and cab a little and If you want more you can add the fuzz on which will distort just the high end.

  • @ludovictangapriganin
    @ludovictangapriganin Před 5 lety +5

    i do split my signal with the tyler too its awesome this is what i’m going for
    hi pass : boss od 2 (light grit and boost) darkglass b7ku (clean preamp + distortion)
    Low pass : darkglass super symmetry (heavily compressed ) nether octaver
    and then after the tyler my sentry noiste gate to make my rig silent !
    but i think i’ll buy another preamp to adjust the EQ of the lowpass channel

    • @creepymcpeepers
      @creepymcpeepers Před 2 lety

      Hey if you have a pedal board similar where does the bas s plug in at?

  • @marekw7562
    @marekw7562 Před 5 lety +1

    We have Polish manufacture called ChaosFX and he made freq split pedal about 3 years ago. All handmade, great price. I can't recommend it enought. Peace ✌️

  • @vegisaynom
    @vegisaynom Před 5 lety +2

    I might have to invest in that frequency splitter, save me from having to carry around my 4u flight case with dual crossover and EQ in it! In case anyone's interested, my bass goes wireless into the rack, into a rack tuner, through an octave pedal, into the first channel of the crossover, that splits it high into a fuzz, flanger, chorus, phaser, delay, and low has an envelope follower and slight overdrive, these then get mixed together and fed into the other crossover, with a slightly different crossover frequency. High goes to a laney ironheart guitar combo 2x12, and low goes into a laney bass head with 1x15 and 4x10. There is also a second output before the crossover, which goes into a DI and off to front of house

  • @patjones5882
    @patjones5882 Před 5 lety +1

    My bass pedalboard is simple yet effective:
    Line 6 wireless/cable in> boss tuner pedal> mxr bass chorus> mxr bass di + for my preamp/di plus my main grit/crunch tone almost always on like 95% of the time. Take a dirt di from the mxr and a clean di from the parallel out on the mxr, chorus for the clean parts with the clean chorus/delay guitar parts, occasionally with the dirty. Trying to get the Dunlop bass wah to throw on there, maybe a second drive pedal I'm liking the boss bass driver a lot. Right now I'm using the mids control on my bass to boost into a "lead tone" to cut through the guitars. But other then that it's a simple setup that covers all bases and can go through any style (punk, hard rock, alternative, metal, death metal, metalcore, deathcore, hardcore ect.) :) \m/

  • @Casual_Shots
    @Casual_Shots Před 5 lety +1

    Awesome! Frequency splitting is awesome on Bass. You want distorted mids/highs and clean lows nothing beats it. I have a similar setup using an FEA DB-CL to route my highs through a Mastotron Fuzz and keep my lows clean and isolated, then recombine my signal in a Source Audio Aftershock where I EQ each signal path individually and combine them back into one signal. Synth fuzz with clean lows without out of place clean highs. 👌🏼

  • @metalion667
    @metalion667 Před 5 lety +8

    Alpha omega needs full frequency to sound the best methinks

  • @christophervaca7116
    @christophervaca7116 Před 5 lety +103

    I can't judge the sound without hearing it in a mix.

    • @brunoabud6672
      @brunoabud6672 Před 5 lety +28

      without not hearing in a mix you mean? This is metal after all

    • @T-Hawkeyes
      @T-Hawkeyes Před 5 lety +1

      You didn't get the gift?

    • @sega.milkis
      @sega.milkis Před 5 lety

      czcams.com/video/N0lbYoEZH8I/video.html
      The same principle but executed in a DAW. Look it up

    • @soullessSiIence
      @soullessSiIence Před 5 lety +3

      You can judge it anyways, nothing's stopping you.

    • @Melkor0410
      @Melkor0410 Před 3 lety +3

      Ya true. Not saying the tone is bad but i really think the high end is way too harsh

  • @Bigscott4130
    @Bigscott4130 Před 5 lety +3

    This is the dUg Pinnick method of bass tone (simplified) prior to Tech 21 and dUg hooking up. Awesome.

    • @ibrajimenez2098
      @ibrajimenez2098 Před 5 lety

      Ohhh how does that work?

    • @Bigscott4130
      @Bigscott4130 Před 5 lety +3

      @@ibrajimenez2098 dUg would split the frequency of his bass signal (Usually through a complex rack system). He'd run his low end signal to what ever bass system he was endorsing at the time (Run clean with no distortion) and then run the high end to a Traynor guitar head and distort/overdrive JUST that signal and then blend the two for his bass tone. His Tech 21 amp and some what recently his Tech 21 pedal allow you to do this with out splitting the signal to two separate amps.

    • @ibrajimenez2098
      @ibrajimenez2098 Před 5 lety

      @@Bigscott4130 whaaat sounds sweet ... But too complicated... Ill just use the alpha Omega 900

    • @Bigscott4130
      @Bigscott4130 Před 5 lety +3

      @@ibrajimenez2098 The Tech 21 DP-3X dUg Pinnick Pedal is much cheaper.

  • @johannkorn1780
    @johannkorn1780 Před 5 lety +6

    dude ... I found that to be a really nice and thought through signalway and I'm not even a bass player

  • @threndor9017
    @threndor9017 Před 3 lety +3

    Very nice idea. I've been thinking up a similar concept. I would also suggest the HX Stomp. Honestly, I hate Helix distortion sounds but the Stomp provides easy signal manipulations. It can split your signal, apply various filters, perhaps compressors and so on.

  • @Oilid
    @Oilid Před 5 lety +4

    Dat sound is INSANE!!!!

  • @justsupersteve
    @justsupersteve Před 3 lety +7

    "so this is the high pass sound"
    *Fart sounds*

  • @Metalbass10000
    @Metalbass10000 Před 5 lety +2

    The thing that splits high and low frequencies is a crossover. Been around for a long time. My Ampeg SVT 4 Pro has one, works great.👍🏿

    • @DrSimonBignell
      @DrSimonBignell Před 2 lety +2

      That's what I was thinking. Nothing new. Lots of ways to do this. Good vid though.

    • @Metalbass10000
      @Metalbass10000 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DrSimonBignell agreed! I LOVED using the bi-amp/crossover on my SVT 4 Pro, running the low end into a ported cab with a 1x18" ElectroVoice, and the rest into a closed 4x10" cab (with a horn). Both cabs were made by Sonic in Wisconsin, a very underrated maker of audio equipment. Using a good crossover absolutely does make a difference on the sound quality, the dynamics, the clarity across the frequency spectrum, the "thickness" and punch at the low end, and on the "health" of your speakers over their lifetime. For some people these are new concepts to learn. I had the advantage, even as a young child, of having relatives who were/are musicians and audiophiles, so I got an early education in how to select and run audio equipment, how to discern and dial-in good tones, and what each component does/doesn't (or should/shouldn't) do.
      Sorry for the yammering.
      Take care.

  • @PushSueAside
    @PushSueAside Před 4 lety +1

    Love that Tyler pedal. This may be the 18th time I’ve watched this video just because of that amazing pedal. Cheers

  • @johnhareiel5118
    @johnhareiel5118 Před rokem

    I used this to help me build my metal bass pedalboard. I use a Big Muff Pi for fuzz but also added a Sansamp DI, a Geezer Butler Wah, a Morley Power Wah Fuzz, a TS9, a Yamaha SPX90 rackmount for chorus through a Ampeg SVT Classic to a Ampeg 8x10 cab. Plus got a Ampeg SVT-4 Pro, and a GK800RB. Got 6 Fender P Basses, a Fender Duff P/J bass, a Jackson X bass, a Gibson Thunderbird, an Aria SB-1000CB, an ESP Surveyor modded with Frank Bello EMG's, a Epiphone Accu Bass, and a Rickenbacker 4003. Maybe I'll be able to get a decent sound one day lol

  • @henrihell
    @henrihell Před 5 lety +4

    Tuner - Compressor - Darkglass X-7 - Gate. Does the same thing, fits a smaller pedalboard and is way cheaper. Paid around 600€ for that, including the pedalboard, and couldn't be happier. Only thing missing is the cab sim, but I don't need that right now. A cab sim is not very useful live before you're playing big enough stages so you don't need an amp. At pubs or small clubs, you're gonna take the amp with you because you're lucky to even get your own monitor as a bass player.

  • @eveythingthatsadam
    @eveythingthatsadam Před 3 lety +6

    That awkward moment when the dry signal into pro tools, sounds better than hitting it with $2500

  • @grzegorzw.9650
    @grzegorzw.9650 Před 2 lety +1

    I liked several of your videos, but this one is a real KILLER as far as I am concerned!!! Thank you so much for doing what was kind of an eye opener for me!
    Cheers and keep it up!

  • @lennyjg8968
    @lennyjg8968 Před 5 lety +4

    23:05 best part

  • @budverissimo1
    @budverissimo1 Před rokem

    I'm in the process of having the same setup. Just replacing the darkglass pedal with the darkglass ADAM. I have a show this Friday and I'm selling my helix to do this. So I'm stoked for it

  • @ROYALJAKE
    @ROYALJAKE Před 5 lety

    Absolutely love the way this sound is build up. All elements at the right spot.

    • @Roberto-tc1fd
      @Roberto-tc1fd Před 4 lety

      Can One use the boss line selector instead ? Just asking

  • @yetanotherbassdude
    @yetanotherbassdude Před 5 lety +2

    Bizarrely similar to how I've had my rig working just through my own trial and error. I use a Boss LS-2 to split my signal and run both loops in parallel, with one side running through FX and the other side clean, but I run my comp in front and a Sansamp after, both always on, so that I can use the footswitch on the LS-2 to switch out all FX and get a good clean(ish) sound when I want with a single button press - really useful for quick and massive changes in sound on certain songs. I really like the idea of the Tyler as it has a lot more options for routing and control, but that thing is huge! Would have to take stuff off my board to fit it on and that is NOT gonna happen!

    • @Roberto-tc1fd
      @Roberto-tc1fd Před 4 lety

      I run same stuff, idk if the ls2 does the same job as the tyler.. bass ->A sansamp, for drive the highs and return into the boss pedal; B multicomp to comp the clean sound keeping my low end and presence then? Am I still able to use sansamp D.I with all the processed sound? I dont use an amp

  • @SeanLoBiondo
    @SeanLoBiondo Před 5 lety

    I said I wasn't gonna make a bass pedal board, but after this video I just might. I think the best thing about that whole setup is being able to compress the low end separately. Sick setup man. Now I need a Tyler.

  • @blakepennycook8952
    @blakepennycook8952 Před 5 lety +2

    The fact that it's called Tyler given what's going on in meme-land right now is awesome.

  • @mrm1dn1ght53
    @mrm1dn1ght53 Před 5 lety +9

    maybe a tad overboard with the distortion, but I really like it

    • @4malulz104
      @4malulz104 Před 5 lety +1

      I was thinking there wasn't enough distortion choices... But, I've been know to Stoner/Doom for hours... I am going to check out that hexed fuzz though, it seems to really kick it...

    • @sqlb3rn
      @sqlb3rn Před 4 lety +1

      Listen to some isolated Cliff Burton tracks... sounds like dog shit, but fits in the mix.

  • @TheTattooandy
    @TheTattooandy Před 5 lety +2

    I bought that Tyler freq splitter after seeing this.. things a beast.. I’ve been trying to figure out Zozobra’s bass tone, which I think was achieved by having two separate bass tracks, one clean and one distorted and then mixed on the recording. Having a way to achieve that live is rad.

    • @Roberto-tc1fd
      @Roberto-tc1fd Před 4 lety

      Can One use the boss line selector instead ? Just asking

    • @johnhareiel5118
      @johnhareiel5118 Před rokem

      @@Roberto-tc1fd it won't have the same features as the Tyler Keeley

  • @jaaz.handss
    @jaaz.handss Před 3 lety +5

    you can cover 3 of these pedals with the darklgass X7 or ultra.. save $1,000

    • @jaaz.handss
      @jaaz.handss Před 3 lety

      @@sirborges that's rough to hear bro :(

  • @brodyh2895
    @brodyh2895 Před 5 lety

    our bassist recently got a Tantrum 2-stage overdrive/distortion pedal for his bass, and the tones he gets are absolutely maniacal

  • @EvilBlakey
    @EvilBlakey Před 5 lety +22

    ... Or just use a DG X7

    • @KMAMachines
      @KMAMachines Před 5 lety +3

      You could, but what if you wanna use different drive sounds to flavour your tone?

    • @EvilBlakey
      @EvilBlakey Před 5 lety +1

      @@KMAMachines Then add another drive pedal, that's what I do

    • @xLowEndx
      @xLowEndx Před 4 lety +1

      Or have more control on your compression.

    • @joshstarkey8883
      @joshstarkey8883 Před 4 lety

      @@xLowEndx Or put chorus or wah on your high end

    • @xLowEndx
      @xLowEndx Před 4 lety +1

      @@joshstarkey8883 agreed. The Tyler allows for so much flexibility.

  • @GrimYak
    @GrimYak Před 5 lety +5

    I put the tuner at the end. This is so the mute also mutes the pedals and any noise from them including 60cycle hum or hiss will be muted as well.

    • @nordfald3740
      @nordfald3740 Před 5 lety +7

      that way your tuner will have the noise from all the pedals before it.... you will not have a proper tuner that way. tuner goes in first, ALWAYS, no exceptions. if you feel like there is noise even when the bass is not on, get a gate and put it in the chain.

  • @ThrashingBasskill
    @ThrashingBasskill Před 5 lety +17

    Tyler frequency splitter + HyperLuminal + Alpha/Omega = X7 from Darkglass..? Not exactly the sound but almost the functionality without the loops in both sections.

    • @jobelewis6416
      @jobelewis6416 Před 5 lety +1

      Exactly what I was thinking. I’ve done what’s shown in the video live as well as used the X7 live and unfortunately for my taste the X7 still does it better

    • @TH-gu4wj
      @TH-gu4wj Před 5 lety

      That's the route that I had gone. I use a loop switcher and bounce between nothing, X7, or tech21 YYZ. Gives me clean, crunch, hi gain without dropping any lows, or over-processing my signal.

    • @KMAMachines
      @KMAMachines Před 5 lety +8

      Completely right, but keep in mind that you are limited to the X7 dirt sound - Tyler lifts your set up to many more possibilities

  • @azurebasssound1196
    @azurebasssound1196 Před 4 lety +4

    Did you check the Dark Glass X pedals? Pretty much the Tyler, Comp on low and distortion on high, in one box (plus a nice EQ). It needs some time to tweak it but it's... Huge!

  • @PedroWitzel
    @PedroWitzel Před 5 lety +2

    I have a similar setup using my Rickenbacker rick'o'sound.
    Neck pickup to a LM3, bridge to a B3K. I mix them up with a Boss LS2 and then the alpha omega ultra.
    I keep a clean low end with the mix knob on the AO and I can get a better omega distortion with the low end present.

  • @toolspiral8421
    @toolspiral8421 Před 5 lety +1

    Didnt know about the Tyler splitter, but was using the One Control Blender pedal to achieve the same purpose, with a fortin Grind in the loop for the high end. :)

  • @oscarwallace5615
    @oscarwallace5615 Před 2 lety

    I love how now days this hole pedalboard is the dart glass x series

  • @dieHasser
    @dieHasser Před 3 lety +2

    I can't believe I watched this whole video

  • @ggates2500
    @ggates2500 Před 7 měsíci

    I have to add a shout for the JPTR katastrophe as an always on distortion for bass.

  • @BoomChockolaca
    @BoomChockolaca Před 4 lety +1

    Frequency splitter should be a killer pedal! I was thinking to achieve similar shound with Boss LS-2 (Line selector), but with this it's much easier, you have to cope with frequencies!
    Thanks for the video!

  • @ImYourOverlord
    @ImYourOverlord Před rokem

    To split bass signal, you can (and I do) use a Rolls SX21 Tiny Two-Way Crossover. I send high and low output to two different bass heads, EQed differently, with highs coming out a 4x10 cab, and lows coming out a 1x15.

    • @ImYourOverlord
      @ImYourOverlord Před rokem

      I run all effects through the high signal chain, with only a compressor on the low signal chain.

  • @rngrzulu1275
    @rngrzulu1275 Před 5 lety

    Another way for live...
    Separate rigs for highs and lows.
    ABY pedal, and separate HPF / LPF signal paths.
    I also use an octaver for my high signal.
    You get better speaker response.

  • @aliennostromo1669
    @aliennostromo1669 Před 4 lety +1

    Around 15:45 is the tone in after. I play with one guitarist so like a thick fat slap coming from my amp. I play through sansamp and ashdown drive which in honesty you can get a banging tone from despite what people say about it. Investing in the dark glass compressor next to tighten it right up

  • @EmptyDomoKanti99
    @EmptyDomoKanti99 Před 5 lety +1

    can anyone judge my rig? I use a Rickenbacker 4003 and i use the Rick-O-Sound for the setup.
    The neck pickup goes through:
    Modified Boss CS-3
    ZVex Basstortion
    Morley Cliff Burton Signature PFW
    USA Big Muff π
    Electro Harmonix Nano Bass Balls
    ZVex Instant Lo-Fi Junky
    Mu-Tron Phasor III
    Digitech Bass Whammy
    The bridge pickup goes right through a Sansamp VT Bass DI
    The amps used are both Ampeg BA-112 v2

  • @lusteraspiration
    @lusteraspiration Před 5 lety

    My ideal pedal bass rig would be:
    Buffer > TC Polytune Mini > Cali 76 compressor > Darkglass B7K Ultra (clean)/Darkglass Alpha/Omega (grit) > Fortin Zuul mini (running DI from the buffer to the side input) 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @filipkarlsson89
      @filipkarlsson89 Před 5 lety

      Jeffery Carel my ideal bass pedal rig is a tuner switch for a peterson strobe tuner and a valve head being pushed hard!

  • @904C5ZOSIX
    @904C5ZOSIX Před 5 lety +2

    Another badass 🔥 video bro. Like I said before, hard to pick a best video. Super informative!

  • @CheesybiscuitStudios
    @CheesybiscuitStudios Před 5 lety

    My pedalboard has the same basic principle, but it's defintely not the same! The bass goes to a tuner and then to a Fender ABY that splits the signal in two. The A side just has a compressor, the B side has a Samsamp with everything to 10. There are two graphic EQ's on both signal chains, on the A side (clean side) it's basically scooping out all the mids. On the B side, the dirt side, it's doing the exact opposite and boosting the mids while subtracting the highs and lows. This then gets blended back together again, hit hard with another compressor to really melt it all together and then just straight into front of house. It sounds gnarly, it's dirt cheap and it really works wonders replicating the digital VST's forming my sound in the studio.

  • @Oddball-dc2qt
    @Oddball-dc2qt Před 5 lety +19

    Deluxe Bass Big Muff Pi has fuzz, with built in frequency splitter and noise gate.
    Just sayin’.

    • @Jagdpz5
      @Jagdpz5 Před 4 lety +3

      Can recomend. Using it with compressor into Ampeg SVT3 Pro and I get great bass tones.

    • @jessenoneofyobussines7560
      @jessenoneofyobussines7560 Před 4 lety +1

      I'm finding it tuff to use

    • @Oddball-dc2qt
      @Oddball-dc2qt Před 4 lety

      jesse noneofyobussines How so?

    • @jessenoneofyobussines7560
      @jessenoneofyobussines7560 Před 4 lety

      @@Oddball-dc2qt seems gate sometimes kills notes instead of just Ring

    • @Oddball-dc2qt
      @Oddball-dc2qt Před 4 lety

      jesse noneofyobussines Sounds like you have the noise gate too high, or you need to just disable that part when you want extended sustain. All noise gates will do that.

  • @rodrigozamo
    @rodrigozamo Před 5 lety +1

    No joke, by the time the Ernie Ball logo came out, my mouth was watering because the tone was really tasty.

  • @stevenvalenti3722
    @stevenvalenti3722 Před 5 lety

    I only use compression and distortion. 2- pedals To get my rock and metal tones I want. Along with the amps controls. And the controls on my different basses I have. Which I keep in different tunings depending on what songs I'm playing. And I only play hard rock classics and metal classic songs. And some 90's grunge rock classics. It took me a few years of buying different bass amps and many different types of pedals to really get the tones that I was really looking for. Tones that can be played along with the music and the bass sound I wanted to have for my personal experimenting around with. And after all of that buying and selling of different amps and pedals I finally was able to narrow it all down to what I have now. It was all frustrating and pretty fun going through all of that those first years of playing. Great teacher you are Trey. keep up the great work you do for us bassist.🙂\m/

  • @GrandPapa16
    @GrandPapa16 Před 5 lety

    Thans for making me aware of that Tyler thing. You can tell hem they'll get a sell because of you. I've been pulling that trick with a Radial ABY and 2 amps for years which I couldn't bring live and needed to trust the venue's sound guy for my low end signal. Thanks again for this video.

  • @curtislitchfield1378
    @curtislitchfield1378 Před 5 lety +1

    I like the idea of the Tyler pedal. I wonder if it would be easy to build DIY.
    If I could have a freq splitter like that, the high end would be: Phaser, Chorus, and Fuzz. Then the low end would be a comp just like you have it there. After the splitter at the end of the chain: A pitch shifter with a treadle like a Whammy or something and a graph or parametric EQ. No cab sim because I play through a PG Bias Head with a cab sim on it.

  • @TheLastCrankers
    @TheLastCrankers Před 4 lety

    I like having a clean, powerful, extremely compressed bottom-end and I mix that with a (also compressed) distorted top end. The mids depend on the setup, you need to listen what sounds better, the distorted or clean mids.

    • @electricmeatpuppet
      @electricmeatpuppet Před 3 lety

      They make the X7 for exactly this ^ It's a classic trick used for ages now in a pedal preamp form, but it's also easy enough to do yourself. Useful though...

  • @SplattedRabbit
    @SplattedRabbit Před 5 měsíci

    I love the Tyler so much, especially the deluxe edition which adds a few sprinkles on top.
    I am using a very similar setup although I am going into a Ibanez Pentatone PTPre with the High-Pass. I tried the AOU aswell as a Sansamp but since we are dealing with high frequencies I think a guitarpedal is much better placed here.
    After the Tyler I go into my Sansamp to give it that little bit of extra. Not adding a lot of drive, just thickening the sound overall and making it richer - works great for me.
    I still haven't found my favourite compressor. Currently I am switching between the MXR Studio Compressor and the Empress.

  • @ibanezxiphos700
    @ibanezxiphos700 Před 5 lety +1

    all you need is the alpha omega or other dark glass preamp and maybe the noise killer

  • @Spaldino85
    @Spaldino85 Před 10 měsíci

    Homie, that Hexed fuzz custom is impossible to find. It sounds so good.

  • @andrearasore1468
    @andrearasore1468 Před 4 lety +3

    I'm asking myself if it's possible to avoid the Tyler.
    Ls2, then sr1->darkglass with only the highs, as I see there (or any other distortion pedal with t/m/b control) for distortion
    ch2->little eq pedal to cut all the highs with and get the clean bass signal... With the Ls2 you choose the mix of sr1 and sr2... And you're done. Am I wrong?

  • @xxnapalmchildxx
    @xxnapalmchildxx Před 3 lety +1

    B7k, super symmetry, and a strobe tuner for funzies. That's my board real simple real light.

  • @almostliterally593
    @almostliterally593 Před 2 lety

    Simple metal rig: Sansamp Bass Driver DI > Klon > Boss Bass Driver BB-1X
    Gives some natural compression

  • @WUBRGer_King
    @WUBRGer_King Před 5 lety +36

    I am so tired of hearing this bass sound in metal. Time to stop ripping off Nolly's tone and do something different, fellow bassists.

    • @gregthesalad495
      @gregthesalad495 Před 5 lety +3

      I agree, I'm also not a fan of this tone as it sounds very scooped and weak

    • @xangrycatmanx5104
      @xangrycatmanx5104 Před 5 lety

      For the love of Satan, Trey, turn that gain down

    • @lennyjg8968
      @lennyjg8968 Před 5 lety

      It's not his tone, and scooped mids are needed for modern metal.

    • @gregthesalad495
      @gregthesalad495 Před 5 lety +2

      @@lennyjg8968 not true, as it takes away the instruments presence in the mix if the main frequency the instrument is heard from is cut out

    • @lennyjg8968
      @lennyjg8968 Před 5 lety

      @@gregthesalad495 that's why you get a tyler lmao

  • @digikaininja5
    @digikaininja5 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for the video and the share.
    I have the following set up. Kindly advise if something seems wrong. And am after MESHUGGAH sound (bass)
    1) Boss Tu3 Tuner to
    2) EBS Multi compressor to
    3) Boss Overdrive to
    4) Ibanez Bass Tube creamer (TS9B) to
    5) Ibanez Tube screamer to
    6) Boss Metalzone (MT2) to
    7) US Metal rectifier to
    8) DOD Death Metal pedal to
    9) Darkglass B7K to
    10) Zoom B3 processor to
    11) Boss Equalizer to
    12) Noise gate to the amp/headphones

  • @filipkarlsson89
    @filipkarlsson89 Před 5 lety +49

    omfg tuning by ear at stage volume is the easiest way for a band to loose my attention

    • @g.koch.
      @g.koch. Před 5 lety +7

      Exactly, rather stay and see someone with a headstock tuner and in tune as someone out of tune that claim's these are for beginners lol

    • @filipkarlsson89
      @filipkarlsson89 Před 5 lety +1

      g. koch its not just beginners that tune by ear on stage

    • @unoaotroa
      @unoaotroa Před 5 lety +7

      Tell that to Jimi Hendrix, haha.

    • @sqlb3rn
      @sqlb3rn Před 4 lety +4

      Cliff Burton did it, but he was also a god, whereas I am a piss ant.

  • @jmstroupe
    @jmstroupe Před 5 lety +1

    I have been thinking really hard about building a frequency splitter. I probably will now. Just to see how far under 250$ I can get it.

  • @DrChocolateChip
    @DrChocolateChip Před 4 lety +1

    me: "how did i miss this?"
    *looks at bell icon*
    "......."

  • @trunks828
    @trunks828 Před 5 lety

    My rig these days is bias fx into a diamond bass compressor and a alpha Omega ultra. Great video man!

  • @FrostByte_AC
    @FrostByte_AC Před rokem

    I've been using this sort of setup after watching this video a couple years back on my main rig. The concept of splitting the frequencies between clean and dirty seems like a no-brainer for bassists. That being said, I have not seen any competition or innovations on this concept - only KMA seems to have something exactly like this. Does anyone else use this tonal technique or something similar or are people mostly throwing a Darkglass in front of their amp and calling it a day? I've also had luck using an ABY pedal to run a bass amp (clean) and a guitar amp (dirty) simultaneously but that is just too much gear and (for some) too much signal to have to send out.

  • @jaredfournier3824
    @jaredfournier3824 Před 3 lety +2

    Would you be able to have a link how exactly the chain is run? I'm confused on it

  • @rhodridavies9426
    @rhodridavies9426 Před 5 lety +1

    Thats a very interesting board, especially that Tyler! I will say, if you need a surprisingly good tuner for not a lot of money for Bass, the Blaxx tuner is the shit! It picks up the bottom B string better than any other tuner I've used, including the Boss tuner! Other than that, the main things that will stay on my board are my Eden WTDI, TC Electronic Hypergravity Comp and EHX Bass Soul Food. All great pedals and very versetile for what I need.

  • @thesefinegentlemen6501
    @thesefinegentlemen6501 Před 5 lety +19

    First thought was, "you can't make a good rough tone bass pedal board without dark glass pedals. They better have one."
    They have 2... I'm interested.

    • @jery3385
      @jery3385 Před 3 lety +1

      I mean, that's kinda false, you can definitely do a great metal tone without darkglass pedals.

    • @sal8964
      @sal8964 Před 2 lety

      Boss odb 3 with the bass turned down, and the Sansamp in 10-12 o clock drive and bass/presence boosted for loss of low end, your best bet for a good metal bass tone with different tools

  • @dougarnold7955
    @dougarnold7955 Před 5 lety

    Great vid. I can't remember if I've seen your channel before but you've got good content. Thanks.

  • @mikerotch6660
    @mikerotch6660 Před 4 lety

    I really like that tone for some reason

  • @ciddax754
    @ciddax754 Před 5 lety

    W000000t! I searched for ages for a device like the The Frequency Splitter from Tyler, but found none. In the end I got me a Boss LS-2 Line Selector and two Boss GEB-7 Bass Equalizer for the job. It works nicely but are covering a lot of pedal real estate and those EQ introduce some hiss into the chain. Not by much, but when you distort the high frequency signal you notice it. It is sooooo great you mention this pedal!

    • @Roberto-tc1fd
      @Roberto-tc1fd Před 4 lety

      Can One use the boss line selector instead ? Just asking tell us more..

    • @ciddax754
      @ciddax754 Před 4 lety +1

      ​@@Roberto-tc1fd Sure! The LS-2 has the option to split the signal in two, having a level control for booth channels and merge the signal from both loops again. So you put one EQ into each of the loops. Better would be a low pass and a high pass filter, but those you don't have normally at hand. Good parametric EQs would be better then graphic ones, but they are much more uncommon.
      You dial in the EQ/filter in such a way, you have one loop dedicated for the low tones and another for the mids and highs.
      For the low/mid I used my old GEB-7 and pulled the sliders for 50, 120, 400hz full up to +15db, let the 500hz slider at 0db, and pulled the sliders for 800, 4.5k and 10k full down. That was my low/mid channel.
      For the mid/highs loop I took another GEB-7 and pulled 50, 120 full down, 400hz was at +6db and 500, 800, 4.5 and 10k were at +15db.
      That way you have +/-30db difference between the highs and the lows.
      You have to fiddle with the gain knob on the EQs and channel knobs on the LS-2 to get the same level compared to the bypassed LS-2. Took some pedal space (LS-2 and two EQ) but did the job fairly well. +/-30db difference were enough for most dirt pedal to turn the bass not into a sludgy mess.
      In the low pass channel you put something like a compressor (forcefield from TC in my cass) after the EQ and I used a Behringer BDI 21 for just a little bit of growl. No real full bore distortion, only just a tiny bit of saturation. So that signal was relative clean.
      For the high/mid loop I used generic guitar dirt pedals. In my case it was a TS9 clone, Behringer VT999 Vintage Tube Monster (Ibanez TK999 tube king clone) and a Marshall Gov'nor. All three set relatively low, but in combination it sounded like a cranked marshal.
      The sound in the high frets is something like an hair metal rythm guitar and in the low frets something you normally only get with double amping. Imagine a huge ampeg stack with a cranked marshall (something like ‚Murder One‘) in combination, but the marshal not getting muddy.

  • @Kittenklawurbnxplr
    @Kittenklawurbnxplr Před rokem

    0:00 the best riff

  • @andreisidro6544
    @andreisidro6544 Před 5 lety

    I play in a 3 piece Shoegaze band and my setup is a darkglass b3k clone into a rat. The b3k clone handles the general gritty overdriven bass tone while the rat is set to fuzz.

  • @peinmilan
    @peinmilan Před 5 lety +1

    3:38 ...or maybe you can buy a parallel loop pedal like the Carl Martin Paraloop for $70. Then you have a dry / wet parallel loop mixer: the dry loop can be your normal undistorted bass tone and you mix in the wet signal, just put an EQ pedal there to cut the lows and then comes your distortion pedal and there you go: you have replaced the Tyler for fraction of the price.

    • @joshstarkey8883
      @joshstarkey8883 Před 4 lety +1

      You'd need a second EQ pedal to remove the clean highs... this replaces two eq pedals and a bunch of cables in a smaller form factor and comparable price, when you factor in its full capabilities.

    • @sqlb3rn
      @sqlb3rn Před 4 lety +1

      Most EQ pedals only cut -12db which is not the same as lo/hi pass.

  • @ftomasi
    @ftomasi Před měsícem

    Would the Darkglass microtubes ultra be even better? It has for the distortion the following controls: Low comp, low level, high level anda high distortion.
    It seems like the same you're doing here, compressing the lows and distorting highs and mids.
    You can go, noise gate, tuner, fuzz and microtubes ultra, and you get the DI out at the end to go direct to the PA.

  • @neighborhoodmusicsnob5517

    Gets me a bit of a Knocked Loose bass tone vibe.

  • @horse_dog
    @horse_dog Před 5 lety

    I just have my Ibanez SRFF805 Into my Morley PFW and that goes into my Black Arts Toneworks Pharaoh, and then to my amp. It’s simple, but works really well for what I play

  • @plingubus
    @plingubus Před rokem

    crazy, how can you even get any distortion when the "Mix" knob of the Tyler is completely set to the left which means "only low pass signal"? When I set my Tyler like that I really don't hear any high pass signal, like it's supposed to

  • @ChrisVasquezBass
    @ChrisVasquezBass Před 2 lety

    I think a Clean Boost will be useful for the sound without the compressor!!

  • @TH-gu4wj
    @TH-gu4wj Před 5 lety

    damn!, I wish I knew about that Tyler pedal like 6 months ago. Very cool video. Thanks!