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- In this series' final episode, the BMW M8 Competition took to the Top Gear track to show us what it's made of. And here's Chris Harris with more thoughts on this £165,000 (as tested), 616bhp, twin-turbo V8, Bavarian behemoth.
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I guarantee everyone, in 10 years from now everyone is gonna talk about how amazing the M8 was. Bottom line, the M8/M5 is a more capable super car than anything within at least 50k up or down of it's price. Especially when you consider both the interior quality and driving performance.
this is true sir
A grumpy short man who is always incredibly honest in his opinion. The world needs more Chris Harris talking cars.
Yesss!
I hope people have not missed his podcast "Collecting cars"
@@bingoberra18 wow where?
@@topg2820 Just google chris harris podcast youll find it on several platforms, hes mostly having other journalists as guests but its nice to hear them share stories and stuff
@jon doe Noone cares about your opinions
The day Chris Harris stops giving his A+ opinion is the day I start walking everywhere
You already do prob, you peasant ()
@jon doe Your name is literally "jon doe"
@@MarshallHurtado dude I was joking.. the () in the original comment was a typo'ed ;)
@@Akkbar21 I deleted my reply from earlier and upvoted your comment because it's actually a good jab! Thanks for the giggle, mate
Marshall Hurtado fair enough. You’re welcome. Peace be with you my friend.
Can you do a video on your garage Chris???
Go look at the channel the late brake show. There’s 2 parts where Johnny goes through Chris’ cars with him.
Chris's fav M car of all time snuck in at the end of the clip E28 M5....he owns one! 👍😎
Th e39 is where the real M5 shined though
@@aussie2uGA well... not really. E34.
J0lker everyone has a different opinion
@@abdulrahmanalquraishi2084 no shit sherlock
No its not... It is 1M
This is why I love to watch Chris; pinpoint accuracy on how BMW is doing lately!
@jon doe sure.......
Chris Harris, always on point. No one dissects and explains a car's greatness or failings so effectively.
@john doe shut up
couldn't agree more! Love this analysis. His tone and his arguments are just spot on.
jon doe just shut up no one asked for your opinion
Ferrari Fan shut up u muppet
jon doe 🤣🤣🤣😭🤦♂️
he is on his own...for me the best motoring journalist that I've encountered...
Top gear dont deserve Chris Harris ;
@jon doe How come? Hes really interested in cars and their technology, has lot of knowldge, hes passionate about them and hes really good driver. You cant say anything of above about buffoons like clarkson and his crew, they made purely enternainment show, they didn't know crap about cars.
ps and I actually feel like I learned something from him, for example from his drifting lessons you can find on yt.
Roni92pl clarkson and his crew showed the pure passion in cars. They know very well. Chris Harris is just a grumpy old man that makes subjective comments.
Rare to see someone just speaking his mind in all honesty especially in his position hosting the biggest car show in the world.
Nebojsa Trivic shame it isnt on TV
@jon doe Chris Harris has no fear, you clearly do.
@jon doe yeah because he's going to aimlessly thrash a priceless rally legend of a car owned by the mcrae family 🤦♂️. To even have sat in that car is a privilege in itself
Cant wait to buy a depriciated 850i for a brick and couple of stones after 10years
And then you need to take a mortgage to afford their maintenance.
Adeel A. Ahmad im a mechanic and thats our weakness as a carlover,buu something we love and throw crazy amount of money in it
Right on man👊
and the reason it'll be worth "a brick and a couple of stones" is because nobody will want/like them and new cars in 10 years time will be other worldly.
Surely he’d have the s63 amg coupe he reviewed recently over this.
I love Chris, but the other two.... Top Gear needs more than one person who knows how to drive. Or knows anything about cars for that matter.
@jon doe disagree. The colin mcrae and impreza tribute was one of the best pieces in top gear
@jon doe you probably just watch top gear for the "entertainment" right?
@@richboy900 that's all it has been about for at least a decade.
I have an M8 but love Chris' opinions. Man knows his stuff, even if I disagree. Not sure where they got 165k from though. Mine was 126 new
I'd take an M2 over this.
a good tune and it's very close to this boat...
Agreed. The higher the series, the worse the car gets
same
Big facts
Same, would be my favourite m car. Love the way it looks
I think it looks fantastic personally, which I don't often say about BMWs. Was a bit miffed when they were slagging it off on Top Gear. The price is eye-watering though.
Most BMW’s look great, subjective I know. But I think they Look better than the equivalent German brands, just cooler
Exactly! He slated the Honda Type R for its ‘Asbo’ looks and then complains BMW M cars are not ‘Asbo’ enough🙄.
I think he forgets that, that is the point of its design, a wolf in a sheep’s clothing, a subtle look that belies the beast that lies within.
Not every fast, desirable and well engineered car has to look the way Chris Harris thinks it should!
Rubedo Alaberti agreed to some extent, but I think most manufacturers are moving towards subtle designs of their top end models. Audi are classic examples re their S3, not an aggressive looking car but very good at what it does. VW Golf R similarly.
I’m not sure where he got his £160k price from for the M8 but I’m guessing most of that cost is due to its high spec of components like carbon ceramic brakes etc.
The very well equipped base spec I believe is about £120k which I think is slightly overpriced, which appears to be the norm for premium car manufacturers against a competitive consumer market that demands price incentives to buy (BMW X3M springs to mind), call it clever marketing or cheapening of the brand, whatever anyone thinks, BMW are selling cars and making profit and that is all they care about.
@@666DW two things. He's firstly talking about track and camber and ride height. Not stick on wings and fake aero nonsense. And secondly, the fact that a 520d M sport looks almost identical bar some exhausts and brakes to an M5 these days. BMW (and AMG and RS to an extent) with the cooking models getting the mutton dressed as lamb treatment have diluted the specialness of the flagship models. For us car enthusiasts, it's a bit sad, but for the mainstream vanity purchaser who wants a driveway ornament, they've nailed it.
Chris Hyman a well worded reply👍🏻
However, is it possible to manufacture ‘cooking’ model’s for everyday use given the state of our roads?
I’d be more inclined to comment that the stripped out versions like the M3 CS would be for those seeking everyday/track day cars.
I agree with your use of the vanity purpose though as it appears looks account for everything, no matter what you buy.
This new 8-series is basically a new 6-series...
It's just called 8-series for marketing purposes...
It has nothing to do with the original 8-series.
It's not even pillar-less like the original...
What a shame.
Making it pillarless would make its weight go up.
inc. don't matter it should stick to original so it's basically a m6 not an m8
facts this is 100% true
@@birch4209 True!
Yes, like I said, this is just a "marketing" kind of 8-series...
Its only the interior that's reminiscent of the original 8
"A pair of shoulders driving down the road" best description of the 1M I've heard
Chris, you mentioned remapping of the current M3, what sort of improvements are we talking about. Just extracting more power can spoil the overall experience. Suggestion, make us a video of your ideal version of a remapped M3....
I think he was talking about remapping the torque curve so the torque is more linear and less spiky. However I believe the competition pack on the f80 has a remapped engine for that same purpose so you could always just get that. Also the CS has that as well probably
I almost love these Chris Harris insights and thoughts more enjoyable than the Top Gear episodes itself.
The (lack of) rapport between these two 😂 Chris just wants to walk around warehouses full of '80s cars with Neil.
i have the original 8 its ageless. It was ahead of its time. So many thumbs up from people.
Chris is great, I will now watch Top gear because of him :)
The angry Persian who speaks his mind and it's so refreshing to hear someone who is passionate about cars
A BMW for 165 grand that looks like a Mustang.
And has less power
If Chris says so, it's true.
That Impreza in the background, though!
@jon doe Philistine.
Burn it with fire
@jon doe why?
replacement for viagra?
Two Wheel Drive mode on the M8 should be called “Journalist Test Mode”, that’s the only time it will be used. Chris nails it as usual.
I think there are plenty of buyers that use it once or twice on a parking lot or so. Not worth to pay extra money for, but a cool trick that doesn't come with any disadvantages as far as I can tell.
Could these two just go start their own car channel? I’d watch this for hours.
Neither a muscle car, nor a luxury GT with a distinctive character. This is a no man's land vehicle, but not as horrible a the 1 series with front wheel drive.
Top Gear presenters should be Chris Harris, Harry Metcalfe, Jonny Smith and Henry Catchpole. Sorted
That would be a fabulous team
The most honest opinion in cars. How he doesn't have his own car show, makes no sense at all.
Ah. Re-uploaded because they put up the wrong picture of the new 4 Series
Every picture of the new 4 Series is the wrong picture!
@@misterchow well said.
yeah I thought that was odd on the original post, I would have thought TG editors would be familiar with a 6 year old design.
Don't think so. You can change the pic after upload.
LOTUSELISE340R you can change the thumbnail but not a picture that pops up as part of the video. In the original video when they reference the 4 series, the current F32 version was shown instead of the concept 4 that previews the styling of the next 4 series. So yeah, definitely reuploaded.
They just designed the new 6 series and named it The 8 so that they can over price it.
Bmw e39 m5 literally the best car ever made
Arash_SP I concur
@@Cassius1706 i mean how can anyone even disagree? It's a legendary machine and a work of art. It's litteraly my dream car and imma get one one day
Arash_SP Go for it dude!
Who else is Not with Chris on this because I'm looking forward to getting one of these
@jon doe yeah he sucks
Why do you keep saying that the M8 Competition as tested is £165,000? The most expensive M8 Competition Coupe you can buy in the UK is £142,000 (with every single option) and the car Chris is standing next to in this video is YB69FXA is £140,715. Please check your facts Top Gear.
Superb video.
Little bit surprised regarding M4, but I agree with him. There were times when all the car experts (sort of) smashed E92 m3 for being too heavy.. When m4 was released again stories about how it sounds shitty, traction issues and etc. Where reality is that E92 m3 is about the same weight as m4 is, but nobody was complaining about that upon release of the m4. I think m4 as F82 is really good car, what cannot be said about the remaining f30 range, where it really lacks something in esthusiast driving department.
Well no one complained because it didn’t get any heavier. And it had the torque the e92 m3 didn’t. But having driven both the e92 and f82 the e92 was the more exciting car all around
I like the style of m8 and m5 it's they don't have to be aggressive looking like m3 or m2 ,they must be a difference btwn m cars.
Where did you suck that £165k price from? Even with the Ultimate Pckage that ticks practically every single option ticked the highest you get to £146980 OTR. How do you figure it's the most powerful M Car ever made. It has the identical power to the M5 alternatives. You're better off buying a nearly new M5 comp off Autotrader for £70k and letting some sucker take the depreciation hit.
140k is mad money for a car like this.
I just keep looking at the 555 Impreza
Chris Harris on.. It is a great format, the only top gear stuff I watch
You buy this car at 160 grand a year later it will be worth less than 100 grand never buy a brand new BMW
Don't tell people what to do!
@@floriiansh don't tell people what they can and can't do
@@christonamtb4089 Everyone has the rights to buy a 160 grand BMW. Its not my right to tell you you can't buy one.
You're never going to pay £160k for a M8. Even with the Ultimate Package it comes to £145k so I don't know where they sucked the £165k figure from. You're better off buying a nearly new M5 compeition for £70k.
@@stubones Maybe somebody will pay that amount of money for an M8. You never know. And if i had the money i would indeed buy it. BMW Enthusiast Forever.
I’ve always appreciated Chris Harris’s blunt no-nonsense approach to cars. He is a good reality check where these exotic cars are concerned.
Exactly, I always thought something is missing on the new M5 and M8. It doesn't look as aggressive as the M2 and M3.
£165k as tested is bollocks, on the configurator if you choose the ultimate pack which includes all the options most you can spend on one is £145k. Also, Chris says he could make an argument for one at £100k, you CAN get the standard comp pack car for £100k with a £20k discount on Carwow
The car in this video is £140,715 and the most expensive car you can configure in the UK is £142,875.
I think the BBC dropped the ball on this one!
The M8 is the most aggressive M car ever made and you are not satisfied ? 😃 who cares about your opinion
I am keeping asking myself why only chris harris is the car entusiast of the trio ? Just listen how passionate this guy is, much more than the other two together. Yesterday i saw the best documentary of the 95 wrc season. Congratulation chris.
I agree. But it's cool that he's the only one... I think exactly that makes him special and fun to watch!
You NAILED it, bruh: "The M cars should be INSTANTLY recognizable from half a mile away." None of this current crop of BULLSHIT comes anywhere close to being that. The M8 Grand Coupe concept car was EXACTLY that -- instantly recognizable with the yellow lights and vicious stance. Then they watered down the production car LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO.
I know you meant to include the E46 M3 manual on your list too, Chris, but definitely the E39 M5 as well!!!
330ci ZHP , M3 E46 and the E39 M5, yum
E92 m3 as well!! It deserves to be there..it really does.. with a aftermarket exhaust its just great
The OG and LCI M2 will go down as the next type of 1M that people will learn to appreciate in later years. I love my M2!
Harris is absolutely right! Ridiculous money for a car that doesn't make much sense
These chats are a little frustrating because the host keeps interrupting and adding his views when we really want to hear Chris finish his sentences.
Chris Harris the only top gear presenter ever that actually knows about cars and everything he says is actually correct.
Considered reasoning and not afraid to have an unpopular opinion.
Absolute real talk.
"The new BMW's are basically a pair of radiators going down the road"
There, fixed it for ya!
Imagine getting Chris to talk about M cars and not let him mention an e28 M5...
So true on the road presence on these cars. My co-worker bought a 4 door M8 - she sent me a pic and I had no clue it was an M car. Styling is terrible. There are many other cars I'd prefer in that price range. I also disagree with Chris with the traction control comment. I think people should be able to enable it or disable it in RWD mode. Even with it on, a rear drive car will behave differently than an AWD car.
I love the entire 1 series coupe/cabrio line. I’ve wanted one for ages and have finally got a straight six N52 cabrio, if I get some 1M bits it would be perfection. It’s just the right size, so balanced, so easy to safely drift, only problem is the steering is a bit over-assisted.
The four door 8 is a sexy beast. BMW should hire Harris for consulting purposes.
As soon as the guy said BMW "MATE" made me realise why I font watch Top Gear anymore
I'm more interested in the WRC in the background. RIP COLIN
Chris is spot on concerning his opinion of the new M cars. I totally agree with him on the 2011 1M as well as the 1986 M5 as well. Big power and big dimensions do not place most cars at the pinnacle of the “fun to drive” world. They can have their “1000” hp and 4000 lb. cars, I’ll take a car that’s much lighter, more nimble and has an engine that can be redlined on the road any day.
Chris is absolutely right on the price which is utterly ridiculous.
I love my 1M too. So happy that he endorses it.
He’s nuts this car is out of this world there is nothing like it
They just don’t look butch enough!! Agree with Chris M cars always stood out like a bulldog vrs a Jack Russel. Bring back the arches!! Enjoying latest TG content on YT!!
I drove this on the track, back to back with a M5C. My opinion? I’d take the M5C. This felt heavy, a little more understeery. Same power, and you save some money. If you look at them on the used market, they’ve taken a beating. Chris was spot on. M5C if you wanted the same horses.
Funny he mentioned how the M5 looks like a 5 series. Someone came to my barbers the other month and began talking to the barber about his new car, I looked outside and it was parked a little distance away, it was a 2020 5 series, as a car person I thought nice car. Only when I got outside did I realise it was actually an M5 competition 😂 To me, spending that much on a car should blow you away and it even slipped under my radar and I'm crazy on cars
Top gear is really getting clever now. I never liked how they were trying to make the current presenters be more like the old trio which never worked ( dont think there ever will be an iconic trio like those 3) but now they came to their senses. This is what chris harris does best and why we love this guy. So let him do it.
Chris Harris’ honesty pays dividends towards how Top Gear has evolved over the years, pat on the back for him and totally agree with his comments about BMW and the price point
Saw this last year in Goodwood and was really disappointed it look so ordinary. Most of new Beemers feels kinda step back. Probably like the M2 the most.
M6 grand coupe was the last styling that beamer really got it.
Hmmmmm. While I don't disagree with the sentiment that a £165k BMW coupe is not worth that cash etc.; I do have an issue with the assertion that we were spoilt with the original 8 series cars! Cars that were universally panned by the motoring press in their day (too heavy, too complex, underpowered, too expensive, uninspiring to drive on European roads)!
Perhaps we need to go back to some older, wiser heads who've been around long enough to recall the past...🤨
BTW, while lots of people are lamenting Chris being on Top Gear because it's like he's been gagged; I do not. Because there has to be ONE person who isn't a plank of wood sounding like they're on Home and Away reading a piss-poor script...I'd have him on my imaginary re-vamp, but with some other real enthusiasts like Harry Metcalfe (who despite being very rich, still manages to talk like a human who doesn't take money for granted...).
Of course the kind of show I'd make could NEVER be on the BBC (berks-because-Cambridge uni channel), where everyone has got their jobs because they've moved to Islington after an Oxbridge chaps introduction...
incorrect facts. Its not 167 grand. M8 comp is available with most of the technology is available for 127 grand and it is 625 HP. Amazing to drive and on a best day 0-60 in 2.9 sec. Its loaded with technology. Not a fair review at all with lot of incorrect info.
BMW shouldn’t have bothered with this M8 they should have instead giving us a M5 Touring! I bet they would sell loads of those compared to this M8.
Im pretty sure 160k is a mistake...
It might be the first edition or something along those lines - I recall that being mighty expensive. Think the standard car is circa 100k
Its real
@@rare6499 its true cuz the M850i is also 100k
CH IS the most righteous man in motorsports, manufacturers listen to him not to Tiffany Dell
I like it because the super sedan is a bit crowded a segment and this and the gran coupe is a lil sexier
Chris Harris only, please! Please!
I'd cross shop it against a Porsche Taycan. The Turbo might be of similar price? Even the Turbo S? If you want to save, the 4S seems to be plenty nice.
This man reads my mind! Such a good sincere opinion by his part. Welldone.
Really appreciate him for answering the yes/no question with one answer.
Gonna miss him now that top gear has ended 😔
The m8 is just too expensive right now. The original 850csi was amazing!
I mean the M8 smokes the rest of the market performance wise
Emil has more power than the DB11 and the McLaren GT . Lol tf is he on about ?
Thabo Ntjoboko he actually drives cars, he doesn’t compare stats on the internet.
He colored it to a Bentley and said bmw has bad pricing points even though they all have more power and torque and sportier chassis for less than mb Audi and others.
He high?
Lol, every car at that price point outperforms it...🤦♂️
60 in the 2.XX seconds - and quarter mile 10.7/8/9 seconds, 650+HP stock in reality, and is faster than a M4 GTS on the Nurburgring stated by BMW? I say this is at a ok price point. Sat inside one 4 months ago and it was by far the most excellent interior I’ve been in and I have been in many. It’s not S class or Bentley level, but i wasn’t expecting that from a car that does 60 in 2 seconds and nearly 190MPH.. if you think about it, it’s in its own class, S class weighs too much and a Nissan GTR doesn’t have interior quality. The closest thing to the M8 right now overall is that new Mclaren GT. The M8 was never a 7 series coupe, that what people tend to mix up. The M8 is it’s own kind of car and no it’s not based on the M5, that was completely wrong from Chris, what he should of said was that it shares the same concept of the engine and power distribution. The M8 is shorter than the F90 and F10 even the M6.
Too costly
Or maybe you are too poor.
I'm not at all a BMW fan, but I can happily listen to Chris Harris's opinion on them 👍🏽
I've got a 1M as well but it's only driven in good weather. My DD is a Cayman 981S. Both are brilliant cars, but the latter is more easily replaced.
Honestly, yes the 3 touring is lovely, but when you see the front....god, might not be as bad as the new 4 coupe, but still. Pigs, pigs, pigs, feel like at the farm
Sorry to bring you the news Chris, but this car, at this price that you don't approve, has already sold out for 2020.
Why this car looks like it does when BMW produced that beautiful M1 Homage a few years back, is way beyond me, that Concept was incredible and there is no reason they could have mad an R8 Rival instead of Mercedes S class coupe rival!
Chris makes good points. But I do not think 🤔 we should be building cars with that much power and no computers to help. A V8 engine 616HP is a lot to hold on to with just two wheels.
‘and Chris, don’t bring up some old obscure M Car nobody knows about...’ Can someone escort this champion out, because he’s very lost in this conversation. E28s, E30s, E34s, E36s, those are the M classics that you need to give weight to when you look to these new models and I know Chris would agree!
When he thinks the outgoing bmw models are great looking than the current generation I was consoled, I shouldn’t bother about his judgment any longer. The M8 and M5 are both fantastic cars, I believe the coming M3 Competition will look better than the previous gen; the current 3 series is already a stunner
If i own that amount of money i will pay it with hesitation
I enjoy and get more out of these exchanges than I do the TV show.
Let's be honest here ... The old 8 series was and looked special ... The new one doesn't!!
Chris does not sugarcoat it. No bullshit with him!!!