Game of Thrones: War of the Five Kings & Battle of the Whispering Wood 299 AC
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Good lord, all this makes me despise Catelyn Stark even more. They went through ALL that, with so many deaths in the feign against Tywin and the battle of whispering wood, to capture Jaime Lannister as a critical bargaining chip. And she just releases him in the company of Brienne, trekking across the countryside. All those people who'd died to put them in that position and she just spits on their sacrifice like that?
I think we can all agree to put that down to poor prioritisation.
Speaking of which I see Random Arma 3 Bullshittery 10 is coming along nicely.
It's a parent's moment of weakness. I'm more irritated that she captured Tyrion on the word of Littlefinger.
She's the reason why robb had to die
Damn. Didn’t expect to see you here! You like GOT?!
On a second note, in my useless opinion, the life of an innocent is worth more than the death of a criminal. For all his faults, Jaime Lannister was honorable man , and if she asked him to release her daughters, he would do everything in his power to get them safely back to her.
Didn’t expect to find you here
When the dragons are not around it really feels like actual history!
Yeah, the early books are deeply layered intrigue and deft political maneuvering combined with interesting tactics and culture. But it's obvious from the beginning that everything is gonna devolve into Dragons vs Zombies
@@jayteegamble What wrong with dragon?
not really...
That's why the story is so great. The world works in such a realistic way that by the time dragons are introduced, it seems legit.
Blugale Doh Too overpowered and make the battles so boring with no tension
You can see that Rob is clearly a better tactician than Jon Snow
That is to be expected when the D&D hacks are in charge writing. What was even the plan during battle of the bastards? Hold still and let them come? Even if Jon didnt fuck up their "plan" by charging in alone it wouldnt have made any difference.
Rob was a great battlefield commander but a horrible strategist and ruler
@@hazzmati wasn't rob like 17 in the books
@Matthew yeah he was at the most 17, probably even younger. Catelyn in the books notices how her son has matured because of the war even though he's so young.
@@hazzmati I'd say a great commander and strategist, but horrible ruler and politician.
Imagine we could have seen Ned Stark join Jon Snow at the Wall
@krishna adhikari battle for the wall...it will be more cool to see Jon and Ned to fight alongside
he could finally say oh yeah mate btw, you're a legitimate Targaryen, real names Aegon, i'm not your dad, but lollll you cant do anything because you're a sworn member of the Night's Watch now sorry
🤔🤔🤔
Sorry to burst your bubble guys, in order to get to the north there is only 2 ways, march north or by ship. The safest way and the most logical way would be by ship to east watch. He wouldnt be technically a brother when he gets to east watch and the north was at war with the iron throne. Ned could literally march south to karhold and then to white harbor or further south to the neck. If robb got word that ned would be sent to the nights watch, im sure hed send men to east watch to take him.
@@cosmicgrim7963 you have forgotten that Ned was an honorable man and he will never desert the nightswatch even though he hasn't yet pronounced his oath
Also for anyone asking this is the book version of the battle in the Show Robb takes most of his men to fight Jamie while he sends 2000 of his men to trick Tywin.
more like sends 2000 men to their death
@@hazzmati Well they killed more than they lost and managed to capture Jamie Lannister which gave them a proper Hostage with Value.
Until they lost him... But that was Catlyn's fault. The decision was stupid but I can't blame a mother for wanting to save her children.
@@trollpikken6907 Well of all the Lannisters Jamie is the best and most trustworthy so yeah, she took a gamble. But I do hate how she makes such a big deal about her children and uses that as an excuse to justify all her actions, but completely neglects that everyone is someone's child.
@@trollpikken6907 if they had Sansa and Arya by exchange them to Jamie.
Robb will have two sisters where he can marry them to the Tyrells and house Arryn to bound them to the war.
The bookversion is more realistic, because Lannister scouts would notice the difference between a 2000 man army and an 18000 man army while in the bookversion the majority of the army is marching against Tywin. The army that went with Robb also had lots of Frey soldiers, so the Lannister scouts wouldn't notice an essential part of the army as missing
There sits the only king I intend to bend my knee to. THE KING IN THE NORTH!!
DAKINGINDANORF!
I miss Greatjon Umber so much. 😢
Stannis!
My knee only bends to Stannis Baratheon, the king who cared.
BOW YOU SHITS
Bobby B
"...marches south with the ultimate goal of freeing his father."
Sounds awfully familiar...
Familiar why? War of the roses?
@@theboss-nm9et late... But... He's probably talking about the reason for Robert Baratheon's rebellion, there is a video on this channel that explain it, but to put is shortly:
Lyanna Stark is abducted by Rhaegar Targaryen, so to get answers her brother rode to Kings Landing and searches for Lyanna, little does he know the King is mad and imprisoned him instead, the king called his father for his sons "treachery", and when his father came..... they're both executed.....
the entire season 1 of Game of Thrones explained in 12 minutes...
Not entirely, they still have to lift the siege of riverrun and crown Robb, but they are very close
Also no daenerys storyline
Actually this is a review of the books. Battles in the show are unrealistic crap, while the books read like a treatise on medieval warfare.
@Eduard Kung He was evidently talking about the Battle of the Bastards and the Battle of Winterfell.
@@hammer3721 no need to talk about season 8
And what about blackwater? The wall? Daenerys vs jaime?
2:29 that wolf animation.
Well done
The show intro missed a trick there
Another interesting thing is that as Jaime Lannister carved his way through the bodyguards of Robb Stark, the only thing that stopped him was the fact that his sword got stuck in the cleaved skull of one of Karstarks sons. If his sword hadn't become stuck, he would likely have killed Robb then and there.
Robb wanted Tywin to see that the Northerners are up for a fight. The scouts often kept informing of Roose's approaching army.
Wish you had shown the battle of how the northerners and the riverlanders lifted the siege of riverrun
The Battle of the Camps. It would be the logical next step.
That is most likely what will follow the next one is most likely the battle where Stafford Lannister was killed, then Renlys death, then blackwatet
@@owenfielding849 I would guess Remly's death is with the Blackwater, since it wasn't a battle itself.
@@Luwi1996 well, it sort of was but it started a siege of storms end briefly
There wasn't much to it really, the Lannister army was divided into three to siege each bank, so the Northern army used concentration of force and defeat in detail to wipe out the siege force while it was divided.
Love the video. My only issue is Lady Catelyn took a ship to Kings Landing to arrive before Eddard Stark and did not travel by road.
I think this is based of the show
Daily Dosage Of Dank
It’s not. In the show, the smaller part of Robb’s army marches south to confront Tywin. He even mentions later that it was 2000 Northmen, not 20000 as his spies suggested. In the books, the majority of the Northern army is at the Green Fork, while the smaller part is with Robb at the Whispering Wood and the Camps.
I too was going to comment on the boat thing.
My gripe exactly. The battles described are clearly the book version. So this detail should have been in the video.
Српска Босна yes I realised that shortly after writing the comments lol
If only Robb was like this the whole way through the war he would've won.
@Jay Reno in the book he maried westerlands noblewomen Jyene Westerling
I mean he pretty much was. Robb never lost a single battle, but he was a poor politican, and made shortsighted mistakes that cost him the war.
@@grimkaizer8417 Yeah. We'll just forget about cat, theon, roose, karstark, edmure and all those people who ignored his orders or betrayed him.
Roose planned to betray him ever since he killed Karstark, and probably sooner. Being a good soldier wouldn’t change that, being a saavy politician would have. Unfortunately for Robb he was the son of Ned “Threaten Circie fucking Lannister and Joffrey fucking Baratheon in the middle of their own court room, while also trusting little finger to NOT stab him in the back” Stark. He inherited the political mind of a brick wall
Honour killed him like his fathers killed him
Awesome as usual looking forward to the Battle of the Blackwater
This.
Oh God yes please
Definitely the book version of the battle
@@Anarchy303 yes! The bridge of piled up boats the invading troops were using to get to the mud gate was awesome.
Ships + fire = boom
This is based on the ambush outside Bergerac in 1345 by Henry of Lancaster. I can recommend Clifford J. Rogers' fantastic article on this battle.
PleaE so
In his "Essays On Medieval Military History" for those interested.
Where do I find this?
@@reidparker1848 In the book named "Essays On Medieval Military History" by Clifford J. Rogers.
It is also published as an article: “The Bergerac Campaign (1345) and the Generalship of Henry of Lancaster,” Journal of Medieval Military History 2 (2004): 89-110.
Yorks vs Lancasters becomes Starks vs Lannisters
Game Of Thrones is so well written that it lends itself perfectly to BazBattles analysis.
The first few seasons, sure. The later seasons are a huge load of crock shit.
@antred11 Haven't you people become tired of being needless contrarians by now?
@@antred11 their videos are based on the books, not the show
@@Longshanks1690 I don't see how I'm being contrarian, but whatever, fanboy.
@@antred11 Thats why you read the books, you fool.
Whispering Wood is a great showing of why a commander cant get too stuck into the fighting. Jamie enjoyed battle. He liked being a knight. He had little care for being a Lord. A good commander fights like Tywin. Stay in the rear, and focus on the big picture. Robb suckered the Lannisters into an excellent ambush. If Jaime was more focused on the battle, rather than soldiering, he wouldn't have gone into such canalized terrain to get ambushed by the young wolf.
Oversll, Jaime isn't a moron even here. But he definitely lacked the temperament for command at this time. Thw Jaime Lannister who commanded the Reach Campaign five years latter would've slapped himself over the head for such a mistake.
2:47 Slight inaccuracy, Catelyn arrived at the capital by boat, departing from White Harbor, she only took the Kingsroad on her way back
Yep. You know your books well
noice
Yeah and the sea sickness part XD
What was the boats name again? It had a peculiar name.
She also had a knight with here which he doesn’t show in the inn bit of the video (you only see a wolf representing Catelyn)
You should do the battle of winter fell in season 8 episode 3. I have a feeling it might be the worst battle tactics ever imaginable lol
@CrashBOREDOM agreed!
Sending dothraki to death instead of flying arrows.
Facing death army in field instead of using atleast some tricks before the battle like a trap with fire i don't know
"The forces of the living had a superb plan for defeating the Night King, however their drunkenness heavily influenced their decision making"
That battle is not in books.
The last book is not yet publish.
So they made it up.
That is why those are worst seasons.
I almost forgot why I hated Joffrey so much, thanks for reminding me!
😂
Just finished Catelyn's chapters right now, i just gotta say I've never been this hyped reading a book. Like wtf man that was so good, especially the part where jaime was straight solo'd Robb's men shouting his name
Yh Jaime charging at Rob and slicing his men was such a badass moment. I wish we could have seen it in the show. Then maybe audience viewers would shut up about Jaime being overrated
You gotta review the clusterfuck that is the battle of winterfell.
Thank you for mentioning the Blackfish and his importance to Robb. One still wonders what the war would have looked like without the red wedding and Robb's plan for the Westerlands
Please continue with the rest of the war of the five kings battles. This was really good. And thanks for doing the book version
really wish the show showed more epic battles like this, the books have so many amazing battles described. Hope we get a golden company video.
The show doesnt show any of robbs battles because catelyn doesnt witness them in the middle of the fighting in the books
in the book there were chapters from random soilders on robs side and those were my favorite, its been a while but i think it was in ACK that soilders are lineing up to fight the lanester army and they point out gregore as a scary mother*** but another soilder calls him arrow magnet. I know the show has a budget and these scenes would cost an insane amount but i would love to see them animated, i wish HBO had an animation studio and would make a anime style version of GoT
@@Gallegosjunior the POV characters from A Clash of Kings are as follows:
Maester Cressen (1-off prologue)
Catelyn
Sansa
Arya
Bran
Jon
Tyrion
Davos
Theon
Daenerys
They didn't have the budget
I’ve been waiting so long for this
King In The North
One minor correction. Catlyn sailed to Kings Landing.
Making Ned his "Hand of the King" I can't help but feel that Robert condemned house Stark into a series of tragedy that would almost lead to their downfall. Fortunately that never happened but it came real close.
Yeah Robert should have let Ned be and chosen Stannis.
Ned simply wasn't cut out for life in the capital. Honour was never going to win over the shrewd politicians in KL.
Littlefinger is the most important character in game of thrones because he's first of who plotted to poisoning lord Arryn then he send a message to Winterfell to start a war between Starks and Lannisters , and this is was the reason of war of five kings
Robb should have executed Jamie the moment he heard about Ned
@Its Baran It would have been worth it to see Tywin lannister robbed of his favorite child
Yeah but Sansa and Arya (as he and his mother thought) were kept as hostages in King's landing..
that would end up tywin destroying robb stark the reason tywin hold back so long was cause of jamie captivity or else the war could be over way faster since roose bolton was looking to be warden of the north since he did not respect robb and saw him weak
@@darthyamilcollado8886
False.
Tywin was outplayed by Rob several times and didn't have the capability of "destroying" him whenever he wanted.
Also, Bolton only made a move with Tywin and Frey during a wedding, he wouldn't of openly opposed Rob during war, who had all of the north. That would of be suicide.
@@lethargictroll6788 robb had jamie that gave rob an advantage for him tywin could not go all out in case in one those scenario could give rob a excuse to excute jamie but yes robb did outsmart him few times but like i said rob had tywin favorite son and you should know by now robb was losing he himself admitted he was losing was a matter of time
These Game of Thrones Baz Battles videos are awesome! Keep 'em coming!
I love these videos. They make my day every time I get the notification, please keep up the good work! :)
Someone correct me if there already is but I would love to see a GOT strategy game like Total War. You pick a house and attempt to conquer Westeros and sit on the Iron Throne.🙂
Medieval 2 Total War has a GOT mod
Kinda like Shogun 2 but with King's Landing instead. I like it.
Mount&Blade with GoT mod is precisely what you mean
Love the content. Whether you are describing history or fiction, you have a way of being both easy to understand and thorough. It's a rare trait. Easily my favorite place for battlefield history.
Thank you so much for listening to your viewers! We wanted more Game of Thrones! You made one!
Yes! I just started reading the books and wanted to see how it'd actually play out other than in my head. Hope you continue making ASOIAF battles/history Baz.
Thank you so much for making ASOIAF themed videos from a long time veteran. This warms my heart ahead of the long awaited premiere of Season 8 this Sunday.
I absolutely can't wait and videos like yours help satisfy my craving. I've devoted the past 6 years of I've obsessed over Game of Thrones, learning everything about the vast world and rewatching the show countless times. I live for Game of Thrones.
But have you read the books? Especially Fire and Blood and the World of Ice and Fire
I said ASOIAF...it's a given. In fact, it's an understatement, I've read them several times over, discussed passages at length, analyzed and theorized, picked apart dialogue and breadcrumbs that GRRM left behind about complex theories. If someone obsessed as me didn't read the books they wouldn't be a true fan. I've committed thousands of hours of my life to knowing the world of A Song of Ice and Fire like the back of my hand.
@@dawn-blade What did you think of Fire and Blood? I haven't finished it completely but have read the majority by now. I wondered what your opinion was about the book
Oh god, I thought my hype build up had already reached its maximum but you somehow burst right through it! Absolutely brilliant video.
the presentation of these is so amazing
With the Skyrim and Jeff van Dyck's Total War music, this episode is a true crossover episode.
yes yes yes been waiting so long for this
edit: thanks for all the likes
Why? This is fiction, not real history.
@@temogen2 Oh come on, please. Even fiction is history and this is a story worthy of the BazBattle fformat
Edit: is this text structure only buggy on my screen ? wtf youtube.
@@temogen2 because this is some of the greatest fiction ever
Ive been waiting for this moment for all my life ....Phil Collins
@@jackgoodrham6257
Ok, thanks... where it does, this story... com from? Can I read about it in Wikipedia?
Quality animations and good narration is why I come to this channel, even though most of this vid was filler. Great work
Really. Thank you for these. This is exactly the kind of material I was hoping for and you deliver elegantly. Its already turning into a custom in our house to all sit around the big screen and absorb with lots of pausing and discussion. Took us well over an hour.
I absolutely love your voice and narration. Subbed!
Superb video!! Made me appreciate the legendary blackfish even more
I’ve been waiting for the war of the five kings for so long. Glad to see it finally come.
Glad to see you back man! perfect timing!
This is truly amazing to listen to, thank you!
You are saving my night shifts at work. Thank you for your effort
This was an awesome video - nice work! I like how you illustrate the battles
Only a couple of days before season 8 takes off! Thanks for creating this video!
I love your Game of Thrones videos, well done!
This is amazing, especially with season 8 ‘fast approaching’ 🥳
I didn't realize I needed this history in my life. Thank you Lord BazBattles.
Holy crap, BAZ! I have been a subscriber for at least a year, but I never knew you did GoT stuff! LOVE IT ...
You know, there's a theory that Roose Bolton lost on purpose and took special care to ensure most of the casualties he suffered were Stark troops or troops of loyal Stark bannermen.
Why? Blackwater hasn't happened yet and Starks are the winning side
nah roose was loyal to robb until stannis lost and robb lost support of the karstarks and betrayed his oath to the freys losing thier support and troops and only way forward after that was dying with robb so he betrayed him instead.I been reading the books roose is a pos traitor but its explained better in the books why he betrayed robb and tbh he gives a good if selfish reason why he did what he did but ramsay is a fucking serial killer tho and roose doesn't even trust him 100% unlike in the show where lets him hug him book roose would never let ramsay within 10 feet of him lmao
I really can't believe they cut almost the entire battle for this, both of them, in the series. This is an epic showdown between the lion and the wolf. Quite honestly wouldn't cost that much to film either, even in the early seasons, amush scenes can use tricks like heavy arrow fire and quick shots to make it seem bigger. Oh well.
I would happily watch a 2 hour map recap of the entire game of thrones tv show if u would make it and I assume others would too. The way u display it is absolutely amazing
Such great videos! This is one of my favorite channels, keep up the great work!
This is an almost perfect explanation of all that happens in Westeros during A Game of Thrones
As a GOT fan I'm glad you make videos like these since they're the Battles we don't see in the show. Great editing too by the way 😁👍🏾👌🏾
As always: on point! 3 days from the last season! I like ur style bro!
I'd love to see the Oversimplified version of this!
Joffrey: "Sir Illyn, bring me his head!"
Ned Stark: "Dude, uncool!"
Please, do more WW2 battles, in my opinion, you have the best animation, music and explanation on CZcams!
Greetings from Latvia!
YES!!!! I love your Game of Thrones videos!
These videos are awesome, keep them coming!
YESSS I’ve been waiting for this!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
Thanks bazbattles, we been waiting for this for a long time.
this is perfect time for this
Baz, your work is fucking masterful- always in awe at the time you put into these. Indefinite hats off and standing applause for you and your team sir.
These game of thrones videos are some of the best military history videos on youtube
Andrew Kinsey Baz battles does actual history as well. I'd also recommended 'kings and generals'
Lucimyr haha ikr
@Lucimyr Yeah lol
@@nicholasvanlierde2546 They are great channels! For some reason it just blows my mind seeing fantasy worlds having military history documentaries made about them :)
Hail Rob Stark!! The only king worthy of fealty!
A surprise to be sure but a welcome one
A detail battle about something that not been shown before?
Amazing 👍👌
Man, you have really stepped up your game, good job!!!
Great video
We need the full war
"The War of the Five Kings"
I want more, MORE!! Please continue Westeross and Esoss Battles, u do it great
Please keep doing more of the game of thrones ones, they're great!
Love these videos, so well made. Keep it up
Remembering when G.O.T was amazing before the plot armour.
more game of thrones battles
I love how you tell the story like it is real world history
Thank you! More of these,please! Your videos are awesome! Keep up the good work!
I love the battles of game of thrones ! 😃
Great video it must be a lot of work to do all the reaserch and animations.....👍
ASOIAF* the battles are pathetic in the show. So incredibly realistic in the books.
Yeaaahhh, War of the Five Kings animated at last!!
I started watching your video six months ago, i never subscribed until today, and damn my favorite thing in my life is here
#ForTheThrone
Just discovered your channel. Great work!
Could you do the battle of the redgrass field? It was the largest battle during the First Blackfyre Rebellion, effectively ending it and confirming King Daeron II Targaryen's rule of the Seven Kingdoms.
They should make a show about this
Indeed they should. Imagine all the unexpected twists and turns!
Looking forward to future uploads, hope you'll continue this series
I was waiting for this one, the coolest Stark Vs Lannister Battle
One tiny detailed I noticed: you depict Catelyn Stark traveling from WInterfell to King's Landing via the Kingsroad but I believe she took a ship from White Harbor and sailed the Narrow Sea, no? Great video!
Love that skyrim music! Now I have to start another new game dammit.
lol Skyrim... hopefully next game is at least half as good then it wont be a total shit.
I noticed that. You can also hear Rome total war music
Didn’t even know King’s Landing and Winterfell are so far apart.
I love the mapping.
Please, more Game Of Thrones video!!! I've been waiting for this video for a long time. Thanks.
Soon, in the future, they will do a battle of the basterds and the battle for Winterfell. I can't wait for that to happen possibly.
Battle of Bastards probably wont happen since its a show only thing and show has little strategy involved in it. Battle of Winterfell and Battle at the Crofters' village are more likely to be shown.
You could cover Battle of the Camps as well, its essentually a conclusion of Whispering Wood. I mean, you did bother to mention Green Fork
I would love to see a BazBattles' video on the Rains of Castamere
these vids are so good on game of thrones keep up the good work