Eurostars passing Stratford Int'l at Speed!
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- čas přidán 18. 02. 2011
- 5 clips of Eurostar trains passing Stratford International at many different times during the day on the 19th February 2011.
It was wet & miserable all day, so there is some pretty good pantograph spray action on some of them!
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Just for fun I thought I'd try and work out what speed one of them was traveling at! :)
1.It took about 6 seconds for the whole train to go past the camera point (1:41-1:47)
2.A Eurostar train is 395 metres long.
3.There are 1609 metres in a mile, which is 4 Eurostar train lengths long
4.The train needs to travel four times it's own length to cover a mile, taking 24 seconds.
5.There are 3600 seconds in an hour, and 24 into 3600 is 150.
6.Which means the train was traveling at roughly 150mph.
i used more accurate measurements
1. the train is 394 meters long
2. this means there are 4.08463360837 Eurostars in a mile
3. using my stopwatch the time it took between the front of the train touching the right of the video and the rear of the train leaving the Left of the video was 7.34 Seconds
4. 7.34 x 4.08463360837 = 29.9812106854
5. 3600/29.9812106854 = 120mph
140 mph or 225 km/h
@The secular humanist Eurostars are slower to hit 186 on some parts. Their not always at 140!
i think it was going 125, not 150
woah you people have some knowledge
I love that WooWooWoo sound Eurostar makes when it passes at high speed. I literally play that sound in my head when I run in a race. lol
Love the sparks from the pantograph!
Love the way it comes up over the hill before the station!👌
I love that sound, when train passes you on full speed
It's actually quite difficult to get real idea of just how fast these trains are going by eye alone. For example there is a great deal of camera foreshortening. The Eurostar trains are very long by passenger train standards, the gradients, also appear more extreme than in reality. Both of these factors fool the eye into making the train appear slower than it's really going.
In fact, the speeds on the West Coast Mainline while limited to 125 mph (for now) often appear as fast or faster. But this is an illusion. The WCML is an older railway, upgraded, While this is a custom built new line, with a much larger "loading gauge" (built for larger trains) with greater spacing between the tracks (not rails). And far less familiar line-side features that our eyes (and brains)rely on to judge speed, size and distance.
+Martin AshwoodSmith Love the description.
top speed is 186mph
When you go from Carlisle to Edinburgh on the WCMLyou'd be lucky to get 125mph, the top speed of the Transpenine Express Desiro 350/1 are 110mph though it feels a lot faster! Sorry about my tone I am quite envious.
using simple equations such as v = d/t you can easily work out the speed.
A lot of classic "woo-woo"ing there from the Eurostars. They should name one after Deepak Chopra
Love the gradient in and out of the station!!! :)
I LOVED IT THIS BEST EVER! I don't like a new one against anymore. This one is best, god bless for this Eurostar train.
The speed is limited to 230 km/h on the HS1 section closest to London - the same section that opened in 2007. On the other part of HS1, closest to the tunnel, the Eurostars can reach 300 km/h. The 230 km/h limit means that the Javelins (Class 395) are not slowing things down, since they can operate at 225 km/h.
You know the Javelins operate at the section after Ebbsfleet that is 300km/h right?
The 230km/h limit between St Pancras and Ebbsfleet is more to do with volume of trains on that section and also as most of it is in tunnels that weren't designed for 300km/h running.
Haha. I thought that the pantographs were smoking where the trains are using so much power to go at that speed. :D
I never knew that they would 'steam' like that when wet..... they must get hot!
I was once waiting at Stratford Int'l aboard a Hitachi Javelin (HS1) and a eurostar whizzed past.
Even inside the trains with the doors closed, you could hear the approaching train through the overhead wires and then.... _WHOOOOOOOSH!!!!_ It zipped past!
Once we departed from Stratford int'l and onto Ebbsfleet Int'l the driver accellerated the train a bit more faster than it was going from St. Pancras Int'l to Stratford, and before we arrived at Ebbsfleet, another eurostar zipped right past us in the opposite direction.
The whole eurostar train..... _SHOOOOOMPH!_ in what appeared to be less than two seconds zipped past us in the opposite direction back to St. Pancras Int'l.
Quite shocking, as I wasn't expecting it, and I was looking out of _that_ side of the train as it shot past! :-O
A rather memorable day. :D
Electric Choo-Choos for the win. LMAO! :D
Thanx for showing,
-BoomBoxDeluxe.
_20th May 2015, 00.25_
At least Eurostars will always live forever... on youtube! Bless them.
Awesome, i love the noise they make as they pass, very distinctive :)
Nice vid, like the sparky pantographs on the dark shots, liked!
Rode it first class two years ago... loved it!
Excellent video. A great locoation this!
@rachaelmatt ahh ok, lol, we we're about 3 or 4 coaches from the front. :) Great vdieo by the way, love the noise it makes, with the wind, when it is going high speed.
Epic video, im in loving for this train
Fantastic !!
Impressive; I wish Canada had trains like that.
@Gerry McNally comparing the SkyTrain to the Eurostar isn’t really what I call “fair”
We dont have any high speed trains in Australia but I think they would be an asset if we did. They are so cool!
They are cool
funnily enough in australia we actually do have the "HST" as it was known, or the Intercity 125. Its the XPT trains that run up and down the east coast. The HST's were bought and had some things such as air conditioners added but are basically the same train. However our tracks are terrible so theyre more realistically Intercity 80's or lower lol. Distances that a proper HST could cover in 2-3 hours in the UK take 6 or more in australia. Also i guess stopping at every minor town along the way slows it a bit too, as does sharing the line with freight
Great video! It's great to travel them too, I did 2 weeks ago
another great video by rachaelmatt :)
Great Video Mate That's A Like And A fav From Me
How Fast Are They Eurostar Trains Going Mate?
Spectaculaire et impressionant !!
Quite a spray off the 'pantographs'.
They're a good bit faster than your 43 passes. Nice vids.
Cheers!
That's ingenious!
It comes out at dagenham the nearest station is dagenham dock on the c2c line
Oh my the euro star at speed is amazing
I saw one of the new ones go past last weekend; they are *_crazy_* fast, and apparently that's not even full speed according to the other comments.
The line speed here is 230 kph or 143 mph. It goes up to the full 300 kph at Southfleet Junction past Ebbsfleet. The Javelin trains are permitted 225 kph maximum not 230.
Very nice capture ! Subscribed to your channel Sir ! I am a rail enthusiast from India.
Done on purpose to help trains slow down and speed up more quickly when stopping at the station.
That track is so steep leading up to and after the station!
MAN Those were heck of fast
Well done on the camera movement
Zooming the view out on approach and in after it passes kills the sensation of speed that you want to highlight. Very few amateur or professional video operators understand this.
awesome ;P
Nice video
hi from australia it takes 3 hours plus to go from newcastle to sydney on our 1960s built trains if i saw trains going that fast here i would be amazed
+Robert Beer Come to France or Germany, they are in every cities.
hey! nice vid there! how come Stratford int'l doesn't let you use tripods for filming?
I just experienced one passing me for the 1st time and can I just say it got me by surprise, almost shat myself 😂😂😂
I'm used to this sort of sight, they pass Ashford International even faster
I actually laughed out loud when I saw this comment, so lol :D
@@trijetz3562 I was waiting for a train there and looking around. I heard something and went to turn around. Lets just say this thing was already in front of my face and got me good 😂😂
@@vakeiniux321 lmao, I dont think I have ever seen a high speed train close up like that, so I can imagine 😂
@@trijetz3562 Hope you get to ride one theyre awesome 😂😂
oof what a gradient :)
Wondering if this was shot with a telephoto lens which tends to exaggerate it...
Ok grazie 7 ygyi
venn it's nowhere near like that in reality. I use the sation once/twice a week and there is a rise and dip in/out of the station as most of the line is in a tunnel in central london but the camera does exaggerate the gradient a lot.
it looks kind of cool the way it dips down into the tunnel though.
These used to run as GNER for the east coast mainline In 2004
Probably, the best way to visit Stratford.
Nice one
I added it to favorites
My guess is that's not at top speed (300kph) but more like 200kph in dense areas. They wait until they're out in the countryside to go max speed.
These the sets removed from service?
i probably was on one of them :) what where the times? can you remember. I got the 10:25 from St pancras to Paris
Based on my standard rule for standard length coaches,
Train speed = (coaches passing per second) x 100 km/h
The train seems to already be at its full speed of 300km/h less than 10 minutes out of St Pancras.
The line speed through stafford is 225kmh or 140mph. 300km/h is on section after the tunnels through London.
Damn this was posted 4 years ago. Maybe it was differnet those days no idea.
The eurostar coaches are really short at only 18.7m long. Normal train coachea are around 25m long
Totally awesome. Any idea of speed? (mph) My local line runs max 57mph...and still people try to run the crossing in their cars...and lose.
The maximum permitted speed between St Pancras and Ebbsfleet is 225kph or 140mph.
I am making a video where I make a mix of 'Eurostar, Europop' would it be OK if I use your video for B-roll?
Is it only the line that heads towards the other countries that has a 140mph limit, because on the Railworks Train Simulator, the line heading towards St Pancras International only has a line speed of 50mph (I think).
I have travelled to Germany a few times on these wonderful trains, and although I look out of the window, I have never seen Stratford International Station. How far in time distance is it from St. Pancras? Would like to know so I can see the station as we pass it at speed. Absolutely great U-tube clip!!!
You can see Stratford Intl 6 minutes after parting from St. Pancras.
Ciro Duran thank you very much.
Fun fact. did you know a e320 passed on the Eurostar platform going from St. Pancras in 2014 bc it was on test
Whoa! Slow Down Speedsters!
almost like being there
@thehstman The fastest 1 probably about 140mph, the slowest probably only about 90mph.
Train_PlaneHub 140 is line speed until ebbsfleet then it is 186 mph
The one at 1:36 - 1:48 i calculated to be 120Mph heres how
1. the train is 394 meters long
2. this means there are 4.08463360837 Eurostars in a mile
3. using my stopwatch the time it took between the front of the train touching the right of the video and the rear of the train leaving the Left of the video was 7.34 Seconds
4. 7.34 x 4.08463360837 = 29.9812106854
5. 3600/29.9812106854 = 120mph
i did the same calculation on the fastest one which was the first one and it came out at 144mph +or- 1mph
Not sure how many are at the continental depots. I've heard 80'ish before though.
Song 😍😍😍 !!
about 143 mph/230 km/h is the speed, I've calculated it.
They don't stop at this station, too many bloody wankers hanging around.
Play this on 2x
They passed pretty quick,afraid to let the passengers of incase they got mugged.
eurostar's e300 from 2018.
That is one fast motherfucking train
Why does the eurostar not make that wooshing noise that all the other trains have
Class170Rocks Designed to go 300 kmph at that speed the noise would be unbearable
Did he really stay at the station till night time just to record this?.... O_o
one way only?
Stratford International. An international station with no international trains - just like Ashford International.
And ebbsfleet
still think the thing has homer simpsons face
I live in Australia. It’s a national disgrace that we haven’t high speed rail between the 3 biggest cities . It comes up every few years & is binned . Meanwhile Melbourne & Sydney & to a lesser extent Brisbane become unliveable. The current Parliament is full of career politicians who have no imagination & only look at the next election . Victoria currently has a government that at last is doing something about public transport, but the money comes from the Federal Government who just aren’t interested in progress. We have stood still as a country since 1996 .
According to my rule however, the 3rd train is rather slow (only about 250 km/h). Does anybody know how far in the tunnel between St Pancras and Stratford does the eurostar reach full 300 km/h under normal conditions?
The trains usually would be at full line speed by the time they are at this point on the line, however the trains are provided with in train signalling that sets a safe speed for them to drive at according to where other trains are ahead of them on the line, so the third train may have been following slightly closer to a preceding train than the others so was running at a slightly slower speed in order to maintain the safe distance.
Webeo The maximum speed as far as Southfleet Junction (thats after Ebbsfleet International) is 230 kph (143 mph) which the trains easily reach before Stratford. It is only after Southfleet Junction they can accelerate to 300 kph and thats reached on the descent through the North Downs tunnel in Kent.
+David S on this part of the line the speed limit is 225 kmh which is 140 mph. but I think that's only for the javelin.
+Ian Rennie it's definitely 230 kph mate - I drive Javelins :)
Ok i did not know that. Thanks for telling me.
once the train leaves st pancras is it one long tunnel until stratford? and once it leaves stratford when does it next come out the tunnel?
From St Pancreas to Stratford is one tunnel and then there is another tunnel from stratford to East London and then there is another shorter tunnel under the Thames to Ebbsfleet station.
why are there so much hills?
See comments above.
like train
Acá en Chile a pesar de la buena geografía territorial larga y angosta. Los políticos y el empresariado ladrón no quieren que estos tipos de trenes lleguen a nuestro país. por que se les acabará el gran negocio de los pagos de los peajes en las carreteras..
Pantograph spark
Did you need permission to film there?
Lol it's a free country
about 110 mph
How cone the Eurostar's don't stop at Stratford?
It's a simple tube ride to Stratford from kings cross a pancreas and it saves a lot of time considering pepole whould not pay for a expensive train journey just for a few minutes and it save money not to stop there with the whole energy saving thing
+BENDOSESTUFF there's actually no tube service which goes from kings cross to stratford, just take the javelin
+Dragon-Knight Then why is it Stratford ***International***?
+Dragon-Knight Well, once HS2 arrives they may materialise - assuming they go ahead with the through link to HS1!
What I hear when an eurostar passed: PYUOPYUOPYUOPYUO (0:10)
Put in 1.5 speed to 186 mph
reminds me of homer simpson
I find the zooming technique for approaching and departing trains eliminates the sense of speed that these trains are actually doing. I have noticed this in other videos by other photographers.
Would definitely not like to be in front of that thing
eurostar could only go London St Pancras or any station of France
That's the problem with the USA; it needs to modernise and become more green as opposed to relying on flying to go long distance. The problem is the attitude towards state funded operations which the US hates so much, except for its arms industry.
this was probably the last of the Class 373s in this livery
idiot it wasnt. this was made in 2011.
How fast do they go?
Khadijah Brown About 230 km/h at that point in the line. Once past Ebbsfleet outbound, they increase to 300.
TheThirdMan We've just had an awful derailment here. I wonder if deeper flanges on the wheels would help?
Khadijah Brown Yes, I heard about that. A very rare event, fortunately. I understand the shared bogey design is more resistant to derailment than conventional designs.
Khadijah Brown it was doing 106 MPR instead of 50 MPR [ SEEDING ]
Rod Woods I can't understand how the train could be going so much over it's speed limit. What was the operator doing? An accident like this should not be possible. A couple of years ago, there was another accident just like this in the Bronx. Why?
19 brit international drivers. Only need basic french vocabulary as its part of the training.
The plural of Eurostar is Eurostars
Ooops. That’s been like that for 10 years. But corrected now thanks.
ugh, the zooming is annoying... just shot from a normal angle of view (50mm on FF).
Just like Talladega.
like uk train
Rapid
1:41 1:47
Far canal!
The Eurostars looked like a proper train, sounded like a proper train and had the presence of a proper train unlike the godless Hitachi 800's that are the modern day blight on our rail network