The Impact of Cannabis/Marijuana/Weed on ADHD
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- čas přidán 19. 11. 2022
- digcoaching.com. Jeff Copper is an ADHD coach and host of Attention Talk Video which is part of the Attention Talk Network, attentiontalknetwork.com.
Got ADHD? Ever wonder what the impact of cannabis/marijuana/weed is on ADHD? In this video, ADHD coach Jeff Copper (www.digcoaching.com) interviews Dr. Roberto Olivardia on the topic. Get the facts and the latest research on this topic.
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Thanks for this video Jeff. I've found that when smoking I'm able to know what I need to do and feel enthusiastic to get going, but once I'm back in normal mode (unmedicated) it gets increasingly difficult to maintain consistency. I've read that people with ADHD have a dopamine deficiency. This could explain the weed high bringing temporary clarity and drive but the drop after making it even more difficult than before. So you can end up in this negative loop of making plans feeling like this time will be different but finding your focus only worsens, leading to negative self-talk.
well stated!
I'd like to write more but bottom line what you wrote was well stated. Thanks for posting.
Exactly my experience
Spot on for me. Im a chronic (everyday) user and ive definitely seen the positive effects of weed but now that ive seen this and Andrew Huberman speak about it i think i want to give it up. But on the same side i dont want to stop. Like longterm i think i can handle it but all the science says that nope i wont be able too.
@@skinny6710 classic... i like it now... long term i might not like it... the trick (hard part) is to pause, override the urge for long term gain. Ugh! This can be hard stuff.
Ive cut right back from when I commented two weeks ago. I've been forcing myself to wait until set times and only smoke a set amount. Feel horrible at the moment, I can feel my blood circulating. Even less motivation than before. But in another couple of weeks I should start to feel good again. Gonna keep tapering off until I'm only smoking one cone a day at night.
For me the thc made my adhd a thousand times worse. Stopped smoking and "life became easier"
thanks for posting. Many have different experiences... thus sharing helps open peoples minds.
Thank you for this
I found that cannabis added novelty to the symptom of boredom in the short term. At 42 I'm realizing that I have to stop self medicating, alcohol, cannabis and caffeine so that when I finally have my ADHD testing I can have a more accurate perspective on my symptoms and cognitive condition. Thanks for the video.
yes cannabis, alchol and caffeine are escapes from boredom... short term no big deal... long term it can create issues. Hoping getting tested and treatment helps. Thanks for watching this channel.
@@AttentionTalkVideo I found it easiest to stop medicating with alchohol. Cannabis was my reward for having a long day at work, getting home, time to take my dog for our second 1.5 mile hike of the day. Caffeine on the other hand was a recommendation of my pediatrician to my mom when I was in second grade and she found out my desk was placed away from all the other kids because I wasn't paying attention and was distracting the other students and figiting all the time. I saw an online psychiatrist recently and they were convinced I'm suffering from depression even interrupting me when I said I'm not depressed as if she new me better than I do after 30 minutes of a zoom meeting. Trying to remember what it felt like to be me before 2nd grade has been a challenge and I realized yes I was feeling driven by a motor before my mom put me on coffee(for instance). So I'm going to see a psychiatrist in person and even though I've been struggling since October at this new job I started in June of last year and my appointment isn't until April 24th I'm taking this time to wean myself off of coffee and journaling to get more in touch with my symptoms and trying to remember what life was like before I was put on a noncontrolled stimulant.
Yeah. I quit weed a few days ago because I heard I might get drug tested for prescription adderall
I used to use weed to self medicate because I blamed myself for all the things I struggled with as opposed to getting an adhd diagnosis.
It’s been about 3-4 years and things aren’t perfect but they’ve gotten sooooo much better especially in terms of emotional regulation.
I do mourn the focus I probably lost smoking all those previous years
Love your post. There is a level of self-awareness others could benefit by hearing. Thanks for posting.
u stop smoking at all? thc & nicotine ? u take medication for adhd? i have been smoking since i was 13 I had a childhood in which my mother abused me the psycologist tell my mother i was hyperactive when i was 5 or so now im 29 taking sertraline & mirtazapina & smoking to 2 packets per day if i dont smoke any ''thc weed hash'' and even if i smoke i still take 1 packet of tobaco per day i get focus from weed positive thinking ect but still bad in long term as they say in the video... so have u been taking something prescribed by a doctor thats helps u or hav u quit all by ur self?
thx for sharing ur experience and sorry for my bad gramath at english im pretty much improvising words here
@@shotzvfx3738 I was never addicted to tobacco but I knew that before I quit weed I had to substitute it with healthier forms of self-soothing so that another addiction didnt fill that vacuum. I went to yoga where I was able to cry and release emotions and memories. It helped me appreciate that my body's emotions as intelligent and informational, even when they're overwhelming. I went to group therapy (Adult Children of Alcoholics) and that helped me understand the emotional abuse I was trying to survive as a child. I went to Marijuana Anonymous to connect with other people that also wanted to quit.
After I stopped smoking I would get anxiety in my gut so I drank sparkling water to soothe it. Eventually I understood that I had silenced my gut emotions for so long that they were overwhelming me with that anxiety so slowly I learned to accept those emotions as information and not be so overwhelmed by it. My trust in myself got stronger as a result.
About 3 years later i lost a job and thats what pushed me to get my ADHD diagnosis. My psychiatrist and i found Vyvanse was a good fit but I also found that addressing my ADHD brought to the surface some underlying depression that was caused by how worthless i felt for how much i struggled.
So now im on vyvanse and wellbutrin and it feels like a good fit.
@@shotzvfx3738 Long story short: the problem isn't us or our addiction. The problem is that we have harmful self-soothing techniques that require us asking around for a lot of support to change, but also accepting ultimate responsibility for our choices.
Harm reduction was instrumental for me because it meant i didn't have to punish myself for not following a perfect path.
Also, sobriety doesn't happen in our head, it happens in our body. We will never think our way out of addiction. I had lots of looping thoughts that made me miserable and drove me crazy because i couldn't trust myself.
I had to learn to trust all the emotions that my body brought to me like a parent supervising their kid on the playground. Not interrupting, just looking over to make sure they're safe.
You got this, I believe in you! ❤
@@shotzvfx3738 thanks for sharing your experience... I'm good with you posting as best you can... my grammar isn't so good either.
Great video, Jeff, and excelent guest! I absolutely agree with the message. I used to smoke weed in high school and, while it helped me short term with anxiety caused by school, performance expectations, life in general, I noticed I got "slow" after a while. I couldn't think or focus at all, I couldn't process any information, everything felt blurry. Eventually I got back to "normal" after I stopped smoking. It definitely was a fun chapter of my life but won't smoke again because I can't afford being "slow" again.
Grateful for your post and lived experience. Cannabis impact people differently however yours is more typical. Hoping others read your post and take note.
Thanks
👆👆 dude sells and ships globally…he got you for your healing experience and personal discovery 🍄🍫💊🔌................
You just can’t handle it
I’ve been smoking for about 20 years (off and on) out of the 40+ that I’ve lived, and my memory is fine. I function better on weed than I do on Adderall.
I think this message was brought to you by Big Pharma and the doctors that they employ.
As long as I “medicate” and then go straight to work on the thing I’m needing to focus on (programming in my case as I’m a Software Engineer) then my ability to focus is increased. It enters me into that “flow state” we all look for when needing to get stuff done.
interesting. I don't use cannibis but... there are times when i can really relax and get into some work with several glasses of wine.
thanks for posting.
This is exactly my experience as a software engineer also. The problem is I tend to procrastinate and watch a video before starting to work, then before I know it it's 10pm I've done nothing but chainsmoke and watch CZcams.
But the times when I'm able to get straight to work, I completely forget about the joint and get lost in the coding. Then it's suddenly 10pm again and I've written 5000 lines of code, I'm hungry af but I'm only half a joint down.
It also means I have trouble getting motivated to start working because I know that my whole day is going to be gone especially if I have something planned in the evening.
@@jackgoodall4101 Motivation isn't what you should do. It is what you actually do. To me you are as motivated as anyone... thus, you are motivated to watch videos (which is why you watch them). Till you acknowledge that watching videos is what you are motivated to do... you are limited in managing it.
Thanks for posting.
@@jackgoodall4101 I agree with that take as well ^ To add to it, a trick I use is to get myself motivated about the process of my work vs the actual work itself. Some times I will have a project come across that is easy to get inspiration from but these are rare. The actual process of getting my task, researching, planning, etc. is where I focus. Sounds cheesy and very Gary V-ish but it helps me.
Im a software engineer as well i passed Aws professional solutions architect after a fat joint. I NEED THAT TO SIT DOWN FOR 3 HRS AND FOCUS
My friends say it doesn’t get rid of your symptoms, just makes you care less about them.
that makes sense to me!
thanks for posting.
I would like to state that many forms of medication have its ups and downs. While I was medicated with things like Vivantzs and Riddelin, they brought negative side effects like suisidal thoughts and aggression. Canabis in my opinion is a much more natural withdrawl as well with easy to manage symptoms like hunger or drowsiness. Used in measured proportion like conventional medicine, it can be used as an effective natural medication for ADHD. Its important to remember to ise your creative mind and continue to self motivate yourselves towards things
susidal thoughts and aggression are not good at all. I don't know how extensively you discussed this with your physcian. If it was exhaustive and you reached your conclusion... GREAT. Often people try meds, have a bad experience, and jump to conclusions. The thing about ADHD meds is to get the right med, in the right dose, with the right timing is more of an art... trail and error process which people don't realize.
My point is... your lived experience is your experience. Just want others who read the post to do the work with their physcian to come to their conclusion... as opposed to jumping to a conclusion.
Thanks for posting and for turning in.
I had this view aswell, but time caught up to me and in my case it cluttered everything within. Memory loss and panicattacks have been frequent last 2 years and now is my time to jump and get clarity for once. But it will always be my medicine, maybe one day I can manage that effect but until then im going to grind my mind and fulfill my ADHDs many gifts instead of dwelling on my disabilities.
I use low doses of cannabis (smoke flower) in the morning.
Two or three puffs and then get to work. I run a carpentry business and both focussing on building or dealing with clients or administration, l feel elevated in a good way and eager to produce results.
I do agree that when you are younger and your brain is still developing, smoking weed can cause several problems.
I am 44 and have ADHD. Have tried concerta but even one of those pills will make me feel like l use speed. No thanks.
But very useful video, what might help you short term, could cause problems in the long term.
Side note: stay physically in shape, eat and sleep well. I find that when l take care of body and mind, cannabis really adds another layer in my life, a good one.
Hope this was helpful
I love posts like this. A shared experience with approporate disclaimer and acknowledgements. Thanks!
What strain indica or sativa ?
@@varg1952 dominantly sativa
Very informative video! I’m 19 and have ADD and ever since I started smoking weed and thc products my head is in a constant fog, and I’ve been experiencing focusing problems so severe it’s worrying me a lot. I’m not sure if it’s because I’m off of my medicine that my doctor prescribed, or if it’s the weed. If I had to guess it’s probably the weed. But I also don’t want to stop smoking because I really enjoy it. I wish there wasn’t just a yes/no answer as to whether I should smoke weed or not. Thanks for the video, I’ve been trying to find a real answer for the longest time!
in my experience not the weed, its the meds, i got off my meds and had the worst month of my life, I made some horible dessisions got into alot of fights, got the cops called on me a couple times and after the first 2 days being back on them i made the great dessision to improve myself and break up with my toxic ass gf and now have been focusing on myself going to the gym watching self improvement vids and having good sleep not woring and overthinking about shit and i smoke a few times a week just to calm down and for my muscle pain
@@calebtube8997 damn that’s awesome to hear man. I’ve been watching self improvement videos as well the past few days, but I’ve been struggling with depression and self motivation lately. It’s not severe depression or anything like that, just enough to make my family notice. Anyways keep it up man, don’t be ashamed to call a therapist either. Therapy saved my family from destroying itself. And we weren’t that messed up tbh, lots of people think therapy is for crazy people but it’s one of the healthiest things you can do for your brain. Have a good one
you are welcome for the content.
Yes it is enjoyable for you. It sounds like it impacts your attention. In the end what you do is your choice. I encourage you to weight the pros and cons and make an objective decision.
Thanks for watching my channel.
Interesting Hope you spoke to your physcian about your meds. Often adjustments are helpful.
Your light weight
I appreciate this video. These days it seems like so many people are suggesting weed for things they know very little about. It helps me feel confident in my decision to steer clear of it.
Booya!
As always Laura, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
thank you for your work!
My pleasure!
thanks for watching my channel.
I used to smoke weed all day every day. Got diagnosed with adhd, take medication during the day, but I still smoke in the late evening. Can’t seem to break that habit, although I wish I could. At the same time, I get tired of trying to solve the problem ever since being diagnosed.
In short, this never ending “problem” of trying to solve evening smoking gets tiring. You know what helps? Just living and not caring so much about every little thing. I’m at the point now that I just want to live my life, and shaming myself doesn’t help. If I’m happy, wtf is the problem?! I’ve made a lot of great steps to improve my life, and this is one part I can’t seem to beat.
And then I look at the world, all the addiction that exist (whether substance or none substance), I start to realize that everybody has a problem. So why am I being so hard on myself? Alcohol is Wilde used on a daily basis for everything under the sun, so what’s the issue? Nothing is perfect, so I think I’ll just accept it.
Honestly the evening is when I smoke the most as well. People with ADHD struggle with getting to sleep and stopping using their phones (I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve stayed up till 4am watching CZcams because I just can’t get enough of the stimulation that the screen gives my brain) but Cannabis genuinely helps me calm down and put my phone down, it makes sleep feel rewarding to my brain and has actually helped improve my quality of life. I’m not saying it’s perfect for everyone or that it’s a must have thing, but vilification is just dumb, and people that do that are equally moronic.
Btw I’m 19, my brain is far from done developing, but my executive dysfunction is already so bad (not from weed just from existing with adhd) that it doesn’t matter, whatever damage it’s causing is equivalent to a droplet of water in the ocean that is my ADHD symptoms. At least with cannabis I can get a full night of sleep…
Just my perspective... at the end of the day it is your life to live. Put differently it isn't about living the lives other want you to live. You can ask for their experience as a means to gain self-awareness but it is your decision.
That said, if ADHD meds help you and you are not smoking during the day... only at night... you could be draw to it as an escape from boredom. If that is the case... focus finding something of interest in the evening to offset the urge to escape.
Thanks for posting.
@@griffins750 For business reasons i've needed to establish a instagram presense... thus, i've been using it. Found myself doom scrolling at night for the first time. Found it was keep me up, and i wasn't sleeping well. I stopped. The first night was challenging but things got better. My point is, we often go for the comfort of now that creates longer term issues. It can be helpful to be uncomfortable in the now to let your body adapt... just a thought.
Thanks for posting.
@@griffins750 Replied to another of your posts before i read this one. From my perspective the same concept applies here.
A lot of this seems to be based on the developing brain - I am coming up to 40 now my brain is done it's developing. Can you take the developing brain aspect out of the "is it good or bad" question for people who are well past that? I get that that is so important - for the younger people who still have a developing brain. I use it very sparingly for pain management so is it really hurting me in the long run? I don't feel so and I am wondering if that view is biased based on assumed age of those using or if the developing brain isn't the point and ADHD is.
Got your post. Let me see what i can do...
Don’t listen to them. I have ADHD as well and when I discovered weed it absolutely changed my life. I’m 32, so I’m also done developing my brain. I remember the first time I used weed a few years ago and for the first time in my life my mind just stopped, and I stepped into a new head space of calm. So I’d never give up my use of weed, though it’s not something I chronically use. It helps me hone in on what I’m doing and helps me keep a laser focus on me important stuff that I’m doing instead of some random hyper focus my monkey brain wants in that moment. 😊
@@joshuabaker67 substanced impact people differently. I appreciate you posting your lived experience but i'm not sure others experience are not ligitimate.
I agree with OP. I only learned I had ADHD in my 20s and began using marijuana in my mid-30s for pain and sleep. What about those of us who are well past brain development age and use it to avoid a larger number of other medications
When I smoke the effects help with my social anxiety a lot I start engaging in more convos and activities when with friends and family
any down sides in the short term or long term?
I have adhd, and I smoked weed and vaped nicotine in high school. I have quit, and my brain is still feeling some of the weird effects
Love people posting their lived experience.
thanks
Are the effects (decrease concentration, decrease motivation, brain fog, etc.) reversible? I smoked very heavily for about two years. I was also self medicating and had a lot of success-taught myself skills for life. Now I have practically given myself ADHD. Am I stuck like this? I’ve quit weed for about a month now.
I'm not an authority on this. Stopping doesn't hurt. My guess (not necessarly a fact) is things will improve a bit over time... to what extent i couldn't say.
thanks for posting.
Makes EVERYTHING better, including Food and Sex and Music and Conversation and Coffee and Exercise and literally anything and everything
that is quite a statement!
I’m serious! You really want to know why I love it? CBD or Marijuana? It helps me escape myself and my Severe Traumatic Brain Injury in which I developed Parkinson’s Disease and Retrograde Amnesia, helps me focus very much on Exercise and Fitness, I received my Brain Injury from a Vehicle Accident I was in and was the Driver and I just bought that Truck that day and wrecked it! Smashed my Prefrontal Cortex wide open it completely destroyed my brain and I was considered D.O.A. Upon arrival and they did not think I’d survive through the night, comatose for 2 1/2 weeks and did extensive therapy for almost 3 years and it completely destroyed me with everything and lost friends and a girlfriend and I just live now? I don’t give a fuck about the world around me and CBD helps and categorized? It is Marijuana and gets you High, but? Helps you focus, ‘70’s weed, and it is wonderful since first synthesized in 1941
Dedicated my Life to Music and Fitness and Arts and Coffee and taking care of my Cats
It’s what your grandparents smoked or applied
The world has positive and negative impacts on EVERYTHING! So since it was legalized? Everyone argues because they know nothing of Freedom, destroying the Country and our Freedoms and Rights
I am really high rn, but I’m having an awful experience. It’s the second time doing it since starting my meds, but I realised today that I’ve ONLY been having these types of reactions since I started Elvanse!! Everything is happening at the same time as in I’m simultaneously in the past, present and future. VERY OVERWHELMING, PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME THEY HAVE HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE
I really encourage you to discuss this with your physcian.
thanks for posting and tuning in.
Ok so I have add as well as very severe insomnia and smoking cannabis and coming down is the only way in my life that I ever just went to sleep cuz I was relaxed when I go to sleep not on any substances my body and brain fights it until I just collapse of exhaustion, what are the potential ramifications of using marijuana everyday (only at night it’s not like I’m high all day 24/7)?
Honestly, I'm not a big proponent of cannabis. That said, I'm not wild about other substances. In the end, if something improves your quality of life in the LONG TERM (not just the short term) who and i to say you shouldn't do it. Thanks for taking the time to post.
I started smoking weed to calm my brain down and control my impulses. It was definitely a form of self medicating. Unfortunately i started reading about Marijuanna and ADHD/ ADHD in Adulthood after the fact. My addictive mind took marijuanna to another level. Now if i don’t use it i feel agitated and intense… i wish i know what to do.
If you have ADHD i advice you not to use substance to cope. It makes things worse
Grateful for your post. Many have different experiences... some good... some bad. Unfortunatly many minimize the impact of it.
I think that there is a higher potential for Cannabis addiction among ADHD people.
@@judycraxton6455 I'm not aware of any reseach specifically on this but your hypothesis is plausable....
@@judycraxton6455 adhd people tend to be more vulnerable for any addiction in first place. because we are dopamine gravers
I’m in the same boat…I have tried and tried to quit….some how it has its claws in me good
I've tried many many medications over the year in terms of ADD and lot of them have worked for me but also produce horrific side effects, I'm talking severe anxiety, panic attacks, loss of appetite, hand tremors, nightmares, high bp etc.. Then I tried weed quite recently and although I understand the long term risks and I wouldn't use it as a medication for my ADD, it still seems that when I have that 1 deadline that I really need to get done but am struggling to focus. A few hits of weed really tends to make the process easier. Again not using for medication but only when I really am struggling to get something done.
Based on what you posted i can respect your lived experience.
Thanks for tuning in and posting.
You have to balance it. Most prescription drugs , perhaps even all, require titration. Most people consume varying amounts of weed, and often, it's too much. Try a small amount, like a tenth of a gram, and work from there.
I do the SAME.😅 Micro doces 🌿😎🇲🇽... Get things done....for me..
I have been self medicating with thc sense a about 11 years old and it has completely ruined me. I regret it all.
Since 11? Wow. Thanks for sharing your experience and for watching this channel.
I use cannabis and have done all my life… my question is this, why do they say recreational drugs shouldn’t be used when taking stimulant medication? I’m not understanding this at all. Is there some sort of life risk to it? Does it make the stimulant medication less effective? Puzzled lol
I can't say i can speak to this specifically. That said medications and other substances interact and can cause problems. "Recreational" is a lable to fit many things... as a general rule i see it as a cover your butt because what can happen depends on the individual and the substances.
Thanks for tuning in.
i take marijuana in really small doses, is it the strain on your brain from being high that causes long term effects or the actual chemical itself? i in some sort of way have been microdosing thc cause i find it helps me with an array of different things. i’ve figured out that i will take it till i start feeling bad which is somewhere around 2 weeks so i stop taking it for a couple weeks and then i’ll start again.
Interesting question. I'm not educated in chemical impact. My guess is there are many factors involved.
Thanks for posting the question.
It takes 30 days for the brain to fully recover after using marijuana. Then you can continue using until you feel bad again. I have ADHD and I do this every time. Together with amphetamine it gives a positive experience. The main thing is to choose the right dose of psychostimulants and not abuse marijuana. So I take it as a "strong" medicine
Either I’m a bit dumb because my medical mj or I’m overwhelmed by anxiety
could be... are you getting help to sort things out? I hope so.
I’m 25 been smoking for 2 years after taking a 5 year break. I do see how they are saying you lose iq points or have all these negative traits but I think it’s more about dosage and how often you smoke I personally I have noticed oils and concentrates make my head feel less foggy then I do with actual flower. I have no doubt in my mind that it has made me have less symptoms of adhd and allows me to slow down and dial into what is going on around me. Weed is always put in a negative light compared to adhd medications that often times have much more negative effects and make me personally feel very depressed after using them for a short period of Time.
Adhd medications fix the symptoms but make you feel like a robot instead of a human weed makes me feel human with emotions and in tune with my life all the while I can still enjoy it
I'm not sure weed is always put in a negative light. it depends on who you are talking to. Some see it as a be all cure.
That said, humans are all different. We react to things differently. If you have found it helpful in certain forms and are aware of potental impact short and long term... i'm not sure other peoples beliefs trump your experiences.
Thanks for posting.
I’m 25 years old as well. I totally relate to what you’re saying 100%. I’ve been using weed for five years now. And I was just recently diagnosed with ADHD. My whole life, I always felt different from everyone else around me. Like something was wrong with me and I didn’t fully understand what it was. That shit had me scared bro.But cannabis changed that for me.
@@beningwe9886 thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@@AttentionTalkVideo Totally agreed. Experience is the key word here.
Consumed cannabis daily for 10 years and had a small problem with motivation. Been sober for 2 years and its never been worse. Although I am much more emotionally stable getting myself to do unwanted tasks has never been more painful.
I'm not a expert but i understand when you go sober there is a mood issue of a while. It is like your brain is used to an abnormally higher level of content. When you go to normal it feels like your are down compare to where you were. Over time things normalize.
Again, don't mistake me for an expert on this... but if my perspective help you great.
thanks for tuning in.
I’ve tried CBG and THCV and THCA I feel they help next to THC combined.
I feel normal thc and cbd help with daily tasks and chores which are boring because of adhd. Thcv seems to be a clearer more energetic feeling that also helps. CBG I feel clears the fogginess I experience with adhd.
I do feel like when I only consume thc and cbd I do get to the point where I forget more often like you mentioned. Combining all these cannabanoids help me personally with adhd. I’m twenty three and I’ve been self medicating for adhd since fifteen.
Interesting observations. Love the self-awareness. Thanks for posting...
How often would you have to smoke for these long term effects like is once a week going to do much damage
Simple question... i'm not sure the answer is simple. Substances impact people differently. What is a lot for some might not be for others. That said, I'm not clear on what the definition was in the various studies Dr Olivardia looked at.
Sorry this wasn't more specific.
thanks for asking!
Im 42 and been using THC at a daily basis since age 16 to try to stay calm and in check as I have severe ADHD, born by an heroin addict that never cared for me was a probable cause along with many different homes. Now my life is cluttered with a mountain of problems that allowed to stack up cause my inability to follow through projects or just paying bills in time and all sorts of avoiding behaviour through imperative periods in adulthood. It feels like Im a 20 year old still fighting teenage angst but with double the life experience of people around me. Ive lived a very fast life , never contemplating consequences more than an hour before rushing on to the next hurdle. I call my dilemma a dragonfly complex, everyday is a new day ,born again but my mind is tired and erratic, the catalogue is basically not in order so starting every day on refresh mode but the memory cache is clustered together in an incohesive manner. Memories are bashed together and I cant pinpoint what happened even the day before cause it seems a lifetime away, and distant memories are poppin up within the close day memories...Its made me a very introvert person cause I cant trust my own mind to make a logic conclusion of whats true or what is a dreamlike scenario of times past. Now Im beginning a journey of great despair and fear and finally quitting cause my life is a mess and I have 2 kids that Ive failed thus far and finally got so angry at myself that I dont even fear the depression that will eventually kick in as I realise the road is long, dark and utterly difficult but just to feel anger like this has been truly missed, as emotions have been dampened by the THC. I know I will need help doing this but refuse a chemical option as from previos experiences showed that Im very reckless with amphetamines/ritaline and antidepressants is a trap for me as I turn to my worst enemy alchohol when dopamine levels drop. Combine that with a high testosterone and disagreeable persona its bound to end in total misery. I feel like I lived a life that wasnt meant for me, in my head I was always a rockstar and not a responsible parent, Im a brilliant mind locked in a prison of responsibilities that never suited me, but reality is that this is my life now and I have kids depending on my ability to safeguard them. That is the only motivation I need but I fear the day when the results dont show I will have to stay vigilant and not succumb to the wet blanket that is THC. Its helped me alot there is no doubt, but its also made me weak and hesitant and its about time I actually performed to my ADHD ability ,let it loose,rip and tear anything is better than this chokehold. Maybe I should write a book with this loooong outlay as proof but yeah, there is a lot untapped potential within and its time to open the lid and maybe one day im not a dragonfly , just a happy and proud father that did everything he could to manage a difficult life.
Thanks for sharing your experience. As i read your post i want to respond with some increditable words of wisdom of have an amazing solution for you. Unfortunatly i don't. I do urge you to seek as much help as you can get and keep the faith for you and your kids.
I’ve been smoking for 3-4 years and I’m 17 now will it impact me heavy? Or if I stop now will it still heavily impact me
I'm not a scientist or mental health professional so my thoughts or opinion are not necessarly fact. The brain does have the ability to recover from certian things over time and it is a good idea to stop anything which might impair it further. Put differently i'm not sure stopping has a down side.
thanks for posting
When i used weed in the past i found i would often be satisfied and not get anything done. I have quit weed and vaping for nicotine as well, my adhd meds were adderall, i found that id get focused on the wrong things. I was less emotionally expressive. I didn't enjoy ny time as much. I couldn't really just be fun like i used to in groups and that made me feel more depressed and less eager. And now im burning out again and i want to smoke and vape all over again. I feel so stuck and i don't know what to do. I don't want to fall back into that cycle. How do people with adhd properly regulate daily life? I just feel like im missing something and nothings working.
Disclaimer... i'm not a mental health professional. I'm just shareing my individual thoughts and perspective.
Based on my intrepreation of what you wrote you urn of the best of two worlds. In reading it what came to mind was useing an alcholic as a metaphor. They really enjoy drinking but it isn't good for them. They spend much of their life resisting the urge to drink while trying to enyoy life. I've not been in that experience however, many things i did in life were uncomfortable and at the time it was hard to resist the urge.
Not sure if anything in what i wrote speaks to you but my take is many it is good to realize you might need to sit in a level of discomfort.
Don't for get my disclaimer. Thanks for posting.
@@AttentionTalkVideo thanks. I understand your not a professional. But it does help me feel better. I'll have to talk to my doctors and see if I can figure something out.
This what I found with myself, currently in the process of of being diagnosed, I’ve always known I’ve had it, as a girl even though I showed all the signs and struggles never got diagnosed. I’m 21 now and have in my recent life started smoking. I find that if I have in moderation it really helps me, and even when I’m doing university and creative subjects really helps me study and focus but I’m aware the long term effects and I don’t want to get like that. But its a shame cause I really enjoy it. But when I stop after having it for while I get really board and depressed and want to smoke to feel like myself and happy again. This sounds bad, the short term now, I feel like I can focus and be productive, I become create and gets ideas writing my essays. Sooths my anxiety aswell. Is this odd? I only have little bits to help me relax I also smoke and couldn’t quit because I couldn’t focus at all and my life fell apart.
When a person uses a substance like weed, nicotine, or alchol, etc. it feels good and is comfortable. When you stop you are less comfortable. When you are used to a higher level of comfort and then go to a lower level of comfort it doesn't feel as good... and thus one feels down, blue or depressed and one resets to a normal level of comfortable.
thanks for posting.
see the long term are you talking chronic daily smokers or are we takin the one week or once a month or yearly smokers With ADHD? cause it was not expressed in the video, also i smoke and have adhd when i started i was chronic delta 8 which was helpping but now i smoke flower once or twice a week im in ny so legally. but dont do it for adhd cause it may help in one way it also pulls me out to something else, but i came to figure out if adhd creates other unintended effects.
Seems (the word seems doesn't mean fact it is my perspective) to me if you are over 30 (brain is done developing) and you smoke here their and yonder it isn't any big deal. If you are younger and your brain is still developing and you are a cronic uses... then issues can arrise.
Again, these are my thoughts not necessarly fact. thanks for posting.
@@AttentionTalkVideo chronic
i have a question jeff can a 14 year old smoke weed pens while taking adhd medication
Given i'm not a physican i'm not really the one who should be sharing an opinion. Sorry.
Thanks for watching my channel.
Don't, kid. It's not good while your brain is developing.
being denied adhd medication my whole life has done such a big damage :( i cannot even show up to the doctor.
wondering why ADHD medications were denied if you were diagnosed with ADHD...
Due to insurance mostly, this comment is a bit passive aggressive. @@AttentionTalkVideo
@@miauv833 not sure if this helps but there is a medication discount card called GoodRx. it isn't insurance but a discount card. Depending on your location generic adderal is like $35 a month...
I’m 15 with ADD. I got exposed to Marijuana at 13 and took a gummy edible for the first time. I use to only barely smoke at least 2 or 3x a month for 3 months this year but I feel like my last weed experience made me lose focus and my attention span has increased. Does smoking weed increase ADHD symptoms? And will this be permanent
Thanks for watching my channel and for posting. I'm an ADHD and Attention Coach not a mental health expert... thus, i need to be careful with such questions as my answers would be more of my opinion than expert fact.
That said, might i suggest you search you tube for attention talk video cannabis. There are a few other videos where i interviewed Dr. Roberto Olivardia who is an expert. I believe those videos will help answer your questions.
I shared your comment with Dr. Olivardia and he responded with... Hi Jeff,
My response is:
"Hi Goosebumps, Cannabis use weakens executive functioning processes in the brain over time. Given that people with ADHD already have executive functioning issues, long term cannabis use can tax this already vulnerable system, leading to an increase of ADHD symptoms. The good news is that a developing brain has the ability to repair itself well (as long as one is not continually taxing it or incurred a major injury). Early use, higher frequency and higher potency are all associated with more long-term effects. Regards, Dr. Olivardia"
Regards,
Roberto
I was trying to foccus so bad on what the guy in blue said but completely forgot a second after... thanks to Jeff that explained in a short way to help me understand 😂😂...
hope that is a good thing
Tbh weed does really help , the problem is that whilst high I get really anxious but I’m less implosive but also when I’m starting sober up I get even more anxious and I feel sick
That doesn't sound so good.
@@AttentionTalkVideo it’s terrible , if im not doing anything like chores or anything that’s gonna make me tired , I get anxious because im have so much energy like so so much in my brain but my body is physically tired
@@ASMR4LIFE02 a thought... sitting in discomfort requires a lot of cognitive effort (like sitting in pain). That cognitive effort is draining. The idea is to expend the energy to find what is of interest... often that will get you energy not drain it.
@@AttentionTalkVideo i don’t know life is confusing
@@ASMR4LIFE02 LIfe can be real confusing... it isn't always a good DIY project. Often it is helpful to get help.
But what do you do when it feels like that’s all you have left.
There are lots of people and lots of perspectives. I'll offer mine so long as you understand i don't have all the answers. I'm just hoping it helps you think.
To me a feeling is the physical manifestation of an emotion. An emotion is a reflexive reaction to something. Note a reflex has not pause... thus, a feeling is void of objective thought... rather is it jumping to a conclusion without analytical thought.
That said, I'm confident that isn't all you have left. I have to believe you have a lot left... taking what you have and doing something with it will likely take work... some hard work. Question is do you feel like using what you have moving forward.
Again, these are just my thoughts. Hope it sparkes your thinking. Thanks for posting.
Did you say when they smoke or dip? I think you meant smoke and dab lol I smoked my whole life without it now I'm super depressed.... So I just keep smoking at this point or "dabbing" lol good video
glad you liked the video. thanks for posting.
I understand completely where you're coming from. I'm 40 and I was recently diagnosed with autism and ADHD.
I've lived my entire life feeling depressed empty inside being an ass hole towards my family. I'd rather smoke the rest of my life and have a good quality relationships with my kids and wife than to live the rest of my life being depressed and hating myself.
So what if I get old and smoking weed call some kind of mental problem who cares a whole bunch of old people who've never done nothing wrong in their life still have mental problems when they get older it's a part of life.
While I'm young I'm going to live the best happiest version of myself I can.
I am going to say having efhd, its just another challenge set in front of ppl like me, so very frustrating
Yes life can be challenging. Do your best to make the best of it.
So I have a friend who was diagnosed with ADHD as a child, started smoking in high school. I don't think the weed is helping him, if anything it's just making him even more lazy and unmotivated to accomplish long term goals. People with ADHD are often mislabeled as lazy and weed also has a notorious reputation for making the user lazy. My friend has just gotten even more fatter over the years, he's 28 and still doesn't have his drivers license. I used to think he had a self defeated mentality, or his parents did a lousy job at raising him but I would say weed only helps in the short term but holds you back from actual self improvement in the long run.
In this case it sounds like it. Kind of wonder how the person gets by without a drivers licenses.
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@@AttentionTalkVideo Mommy still drops him off at work😂
@@Tempus0ptic wow!
I found weed helped in the very short term.
I've found my focus got worse and my emotional regulation was not there. I started using shortly after legalization here in Canada I'm now nearly 2 years clean but I still struggle with my addiction my cravings are still there especially if I have an excess of free time.
My ex has ADHD and is heavily addicted I had to break up with her because I didn't want to date a cannabis user.
It is harder to self regulate when you are hungrey, angrey, tired, lonely, bored or stressed. Free time sounds like your mind is not occupied. As a coach i focus more on keeping your mind occupied so you don't have the cravings. I share this in case it speaks to you in some way.
Thanks for posting.
This is a brave thing to say nowadays. I wish I would’ve never touched it, but here I am at 27 and I just bought weed again out of impulse and boredom after I threw my weed away two days ago!! I need to figure this stuff out. I gotta quit this shit ain’t good for me. I only think straight like this after I’ve smoked.
I'd encourage you to get help quiting... for most it isn't a good DIY project.
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There's many ways to consume cannabis, not just smoking. THC levels vary you can still get 4% stuff. There's a therapeutic dose of cannabis.
interesting
Does the opposite for me in regards to sleep. It stimulates me and makes
Me feel wide awake. Can never sleep on this
Another great example how substance impact people differently.
Thanks for posting!
I experienced all this in summer 2018... Now even thinking about it gives me anxiety... 😬
I wish I could kick alcohol simply like that too though... 😓
Thanks for posting. Hoping you are getting professional help on the Alchol thing.
Thanks for watching my channel.
When you decide to finally quit, join a group with like-minded folk. The 12 steps work and there is a solution. Before you know it, you learn alcohol is something you don’t need.
👆👆 dude sells and ships globally…he got you for your healing experience and personal discovery 🍄🍫💊🔌................
@@smashy_smasherton I've decided tens of times already...
"12 steps" is an AA copyrighted thing pretty much... And their foundational belief is that you're sock + [something something] god... so I'm never going there.
@@movement2contact ok then. Guess you got it all sorted out and you know how to quit. Good luck!
I’m a person with ADHD and when I smoke weed my brain develops much smart really high in the long term less than a 1200. Just being on 1200 high I have been paranoid a couple times and had an anxiety attack once as well too. Do I still like it yes. I think because ADHD has a effect on our mental health is that weed stretches our feelings to the side but I also play the game and listen to music and it’s like my memory sometimes enhanced or remembered or forgotten not if it’s long term or short but it all depends how much THC u take in but my memory, reaction time, patience , brain and vision, and feelings are developed in all positive ways are enhanced and my reaction time and patience is also enhanced when I play call of duty and my brain thinks smarter as a play comp cod player it helps memorize off the top of my dome and perform better. My energy is enhanced too. Depression thoughts may occur but that’s what it’s like used for. Lm plus other things with symptoms or syndromes. It’s to get away or feel a certain strong feeling for a short or long term hour to enjoy life.
interesting... thanks. Always like lived experience posts.
honestly don’t give a s*** about the harmful effects. id rather live life feeling closer to normal.
If it is a consious choice i can respect that!
thanks for sharing your thought.s
i use a certain kind of strain to treat my adhd/anxiety and i feel it works best for me . The strain i smoke has only .5 % of thc and 20-23% of cbd . I smoke a light joint in the morning and my day is solid. I think clearly , my focus is good ..almost no anxiety . So the 0.5% of thc acts as a natural stimulant and the CBD takes care of my anxiety . I find that strain way better then my ritalin and i dont believe there is any harm in consuming such low level of thc.
interesting! Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching my channel.
Might I ask you what strain are you smoking sir?
I have never smoked a CBD focused strain, but I’m currently growing a Green Crack CBD.
@@midz8840 it’s a hybrid with 20% cbd and .5% thc they call it Yogurt here which is the legal one . I think I need just the right amount of thc to keep my symptoms away.
I’m also interested to hear more about what strain and how you personally acquire it!! Could help me
@@DirectFireDave the strain in called yogurt but that’s not imp, its basically microdosing thc/cbd . Roll a J with very little bit of marijuana in it and see how tht makes you feel . Record it somewhere about it. That way you will know what quantity of a certain strain tht is available is working for you. You just need a perfect dose to not make u high but also keeps your brain stimulated
tried self medicating with ADHD meds and holy cow, i felt like i was high on meth, granted it was 30 mg xr my first time, i felt like i was tweaking out. For me marijuana helps me get into the flow state, and focus, also i was a severe drug addict in my 20's so i know my weaknesses. i have to moderate and pick a lesser demon, i work in behavioral health so the meds are way over prescribed. you got some people taking 25-50 pills a day on average.
Starting at 30 mg XR? Wow! The meds impact everyone differently. As a general rule most physcians start you on a lower dose an increase it slowly to dial it in. Maybe consider dropping down to 10 mg...
What are the long-term impacts of aderol or riddelon?
Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. You have a great question. Honestly I'm not a mental health professional or a researcher. Thus, i don't feel qualified to comment on this.
That said, believe it or not i've never been able to find anyone who could speak to this. Pharmasecutial company might but i've never reached out to them as to me it would be a conflict of interest. Most professionals asknowledge there are risks... some heart based but again mostly vagure.
Your post has inspired me to look for a professional again (i stopped looking years ago on this topic). Thanks for the nudge. I'll see what i can do.
Thanks, a friend of mine has a teenager who has aspergers, anxiety, OCD, adhd, depression and the cannabis helps immensely. His kid always uses the argument that it is much better than taking aderol or riddelon. He's noticed a big difference for the better but is deeply concerned about the long-term impact of pot. Offering psychological help has been fruitless since the teen absolutely refuses to go after years of trying to convince him. I am at a loss on how to advise my friend.
@@DrRemulac777 it is always challenging to help those who have strong beliefs about something. It is an art more than a science. Keep the faith.
I have adhd and a hand full of other problems coming along with it. Because I wasn‘t diagnosed as a child.
I‘m now 24 and my problems in society, family or at work keep pyling up.
Canabis helps me alot: helping me to calm down, listening to people and not Interrupt them every few seconds, I‘m less impulsive in my behavior, it helps me to focus, it helps me to sleep, it lifts my mood (depressive episodes since my teens), helps me to regulate my hunger (because of anorexia), helps me with cronic pain (because of my work exident).
When I am medicated I have a total new mindset, more life quality and can participate in society.
Hope my comment helped a little 😊
@Joris Lehfeldt I appreciate your feedback and will share it with my friend. He is concerned that his son, who is in his teens, will become unmotivated or lose his happiness receptors since there is a lot of content pertaining to the impact of canabis on a teenager's brain. The other options such as Xanax, Adderall, etc, do not seem better. He is lost at what to do.
This video contradicts a lot of other research I’ve read or watched regarding cigarettes. Would have liked more focus on the mj rather than cigarettes.
That is the thing about research... research is about discovering the unknown or proving a hypothesis. It is only as good as the question, hypothesis, or what the person is looking for. That is why things need multiple studies to identify what is true.
thanks for posting.
With me in the end it took a long time but I realised I've been lying to myself about how weed makes me feel and even more so the after effects and had to stop.
thanks for posting. Why do you think it took so long to realize it?
@@AttentionTalkVideo because, dude it's become such a huge part of Western culture unlike most drugs apart from wine there is a huge amount of variability, if you have a sensitive pallet it can smell and taste like citrus, berries, buttery baked goods, mint, various other herbs, wet earth, pinetrees, bubblegum etc as with wine and other alcoholic drinks there is a whole culture around it, it's played a part in many music genres, films, it can make you laugh hysterically especially at the beginning, there was a mystique to it due to being illegal, It can be highly euphoric, it *can* help you sleep, it makes you horny, but like many other things the negative effects get worse and worse and the positive effects dissapear and I think a big part of adhd is struggling to set limits for anything pleasurable because of lack of dopamine and the ensuing dopamine seeking behaviour. Everyone is on their own path of realising that the things they enjoy are only enjoyable or effective in moderation and if we over indulge sometimes we can never enjoy them again. Plus the time, money and energy wasted the potential missed opportunities, the risk of developing serious types of mental illness such as dissosciation, becoming highly suggestible (doomsday theories, economic collapse, magical thinking etc) paranoid delusions withdrawl from/ antipathy towards socialising especially in large groups and realising it's eroded a lot of my motivation, self confidence.
@@AttentionTalkVideo Being rebellious too, not wanting to listen to authority figures, exacerbated by a lot of contradictory information. (No excuses though, some part of me knew right from the beginning, not only are we often not at our best under the influence of any substance, there were always physical and psychological elements of cannabis use I didn't like, tiredness, losing touch with reality, the hangover effect, paranoia, dizziness, lethargy, confusion and irritability, loss of REM sleep and dreams; which are meant to be very important to recharge, process events and emotions and maintain sanity, good mental health.)
@@joeroberts2156 hoping others read this post... many could learn from it. You should be proud of yourself for down regulating your emotions and make a consious decision... BOOYA!
Well i guess its too late for me im 32 and started when i was 15. Damage is done.
My guess is if you stop it would be better than contining.
To scale it down, does it make my life better? Yes
I'd say you have to make the call on that question.
I have been smoking for 20+ years and as a civil engineer and a proud member of Mensa I dont feel it has made my IQ points drop an awful much.
CZcams is today a place where People get useful information. It is important that the information given is on point.
@@VikingOlberg-NymoenOfNorway Honestly, the challenge of information in our world today is this. People's attention span is shrinking. Emotionally they are looking for the answers they want to hear, and context or situational differences play a big part in things. In the end most don't want to get a rounded education.
I was at an APSARD conference. Statistically, they sited 52% of info on ADHD posted on tick tock is miss information, 27% was lived experiences, the rest was loosly pased on fact.
That said, everyone is different. How cannibis impacts you is different than me or others. In the end i respect you making your individual decision.
Thanks for tuning in.
@@AttentionTalkVideo Great answer.
In this field you have a much broader insight than me and I will not pretend i know more than you. But maybe there are alot more People like me that have not yet tried Cannabis but should, and they could get scared of answers like your guest gave in this video.
Thank you for your answer.
@@VikingOlberg-NymoenOfNorway I love people like you that make such respectful comments. I want you to know i can see your point and there is something to it.
That said, my videos on this topic are based on other thought learders based on what we know today (ugh, science often proves itself wrong) based on the norm. To your point there are always exceptions.
Thanks again for expressing your thoughts.
Best strain of weed for adhd? Sativa or indica? Anyone ?
I know i couldn't tell you. My guess it depends on the person.
Saliva for energy and Indica for chilling or sleep
The doctor's THC figures he quoted were far too low. Personally I've been self medicating for 34 years and getting a prescription for 2 months. It definitely helps with focus, sleep and appetite.
Remember Dr. Olivardia references research. Not everyone is normative. My understanding is... yes it can help with sleep and stimulates appitite. In the short term it can seemly help with focus... in the long term it can negatively impact focus and motivation. Again, not everyone is the same and impact differ.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
What do the studies say about people who start using after the age of 28? Is the degrading of the executive function area of the brain comparable; or even present? 🤔 Unfortunately, that wasn't touched on in this video...
That is a good question. This is my understanding. There is not a lot of research on it. Again from what i understand (not necessarly fact) it is difficult to find a group that has an official diagnosis of ADHD (most older adults are not diagnosed) with homogenious co-morbit conditions that didn't didn't start till later in life? On paper is seems like you could find such a group. Practically, it seems it is more difficult.
Thanks for posting!
Are there any studies with adult adhd people over 30 who don't used cannabis and then use it as a treatment? Usually adhd treatments have whose effects like reduced focus, iq and so on for 'normal' people as well as cannabis. But for adhd they work diametral to increase whose things. I started cannabis at early 30s and for me it works really well in really low doses with little side effects. Yeah for high doses it puts you in the couch as well, but in lower doses I function really well. Especially for bore work, which I really suffer from. You cannot compare normal people to adhd people. And knowledge from studies with a mix of people may not apply to especially for the adhd adult group. Also for people with a past of abussing use of cannabis in their early years this may not apply well, cause you're right, it may have a huge long term impact of your brain development.
Sorry i don't have any knowledge of such reasearch. Thanks for asking.
So amphetamines are good for the development of the brain?
I'm not sure that was stated or implied by Dr. Olivardia. He was just sharing research on the topic.
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Cannabis high in thc will cause anxiety in most people but as long as you use the correct strain you can use cannabis to treat adhd pretty well and sometimes better than stimulant based meds I wonder if a combination would work as in stimulant for daytime and then cannabis for night time not many studies on that well not that I can find anyway but I would be up for a study on combined usage for me personally I find cannabis too much for day time as it switches my brain off completely so I find it works well for sleeping but I need to take adhd meds during the day or I can't function but without cannabis I can't sleep and can be quite moody from the meds it's a catch 22 but as a late diagnosis age 40 I spent years self medicating with lots of different drugs and alcohol as well as prescription medications for anxiety and depression none of with helped now I have clarity and energy and ability to function but I need the combination for different things
I like when people post their lived experience. That said, i need to make sure a lived experience is shared as a lived experience. From all the thought leaders and researchers I've talked to cannabis isn't a treatment for ADHD. For some it has an impact on symptoms or other parts of their life... which based on intrepretation can result in a better quality of life defined by that person. My point is cannabis isn't an ADHD treatment. I can't deny your experience.
Thanks for posting.
@@AttentionTalkVideo thanks for replying but it is used as a treatment by doctors in both USA and Canada and I believe its also available privately in the UK for adhd why prescribe it if its not a treatment i beleive this makes your point biased based of personal opinion and not fact its alsothe opinion of one type of doctor I believe there are just as many doctors advocate prescribed cannabis as treatment for adhd and as a safer less adictive form of medication than stimulants I'm not denying it has its side affects like all medications but as a treatment it is just as valid as the rest I also understand due to past drug laws the research just insist available to say one way or another what the benefits/harms are and that most opinion on cannabis as a medical treatment are based off old bigoted values taught by the corruption of the medical profession in the 60s propaganda spouted by mainly the timber companies of that period and I've met so many adhd and non adhd people who use cannabis to no detriment as well as some people who cannot use it at all but that as we are aware does not mean that cannabis medication cannot be used as a treatment as someone who suffered for years with no help or guidance I believe in use what works for you and use natural where possible as we now know about man made chemicals and the harms caused by them the opioid pandemic and the recent findings that most anxiety and depression is not caused by chemical imbalance even though that is first line of treatment should teach us to be waray of saying this has no medical use before having ALL the facts as this is not only counter productive but harmful and possibly shaming to people using cannabis sucsesfully and already struggling to keep there head above water due to societal pressures not fit to accommodate adhd sufferers more research needs to be done on this with real lived experiences take into account and without personal opinion drawn into it and unfortunately we are all more than aware of how corrupt the American food and drug industries are especially when it comes to profit over health and only researching meds that give the result wanted rather than the true result of actual unbiased independent study
Here is one such study done this year using patient information and self assessment peer reviews maybe an interview with this doctor or others like them on your page would give a more open and honest evaluation on this subject after all how can we conclude anything with only half the information available xx
@@richardnicholson-blyth3739 I'm reading what you are writing but we have to be careful. Wellbutrin is often prescribed to those with ADHD. It is not an ADHD drug. Many report positive effects however it is my understanding it helps with side effects not ADHD it self. My understand in cannabis helps with anxiety (short term). In such cases it helps with anxiety but not ADHD itself.
You speak as if adhd is curable lets not forget all adhd medication only treat the symptoms of adhd but adhd in itself is not a treatable condition as it is a neurodevelopmental condition not an illness or mental health illness so all that can be done for people who have adhd is treating symptoms with medication some that work for some and some that don't and all of which come with complications and sideaffects ranging from paranoia to death except cannabis that has never caused death and cannot cause death and the reason doctors like the guy you interviewed are against it is that big pharma can't monopolise it as easily as they do other pharmaceuticals that's why I earlier mentioned the corruption of food and drug regulators your a coach for people who have a neurodevelopmental condition and your giving them a half the information based on a handful of the studies and your following the narrative of the pharmaceutical industry that's damaging to everyone's health let alone a comunity of vulnerable adults and I say this as a neurodivergent person we are vulnerable to lies and deceit as we like to see the best in everyone but we also see injustice and giving half a story is I feel destructive to society as a whole
Here i am a 28 year old with adhd whos been smoking pot for over a decade. Im screwed
not sure you are screwed... you can keep from making things worse...
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@@AttentionTalkVideo i did i dropped the pot and vape. Just worried too much damage and not enough time for my brain to keep growing and heal itself.
@@antgue756 I'm not an expert on brain recovery in this space... it does sound like you are taking charge of your life... BOOYA!
Everyone will react differently, people with aspergers syndrome and psychotic features will be much more sensitive to the effects of THC and be more neutral and or positive with CBD, although dose relationship dependence the CBD still might have psychoactive properties but much more tender and relaxing than the typical soaring effects of THC, thanks for uploading a video, i love neurophysiology, science, biology, and less politics or political correctedness,nice to meet you Dr. Jeff Copper.
you wrote... Everyone will react differently... that is spot on.
note, i'm not a physcian... just and ADHD coach.
@@AttentionTalkVideo yep.
@@AttentionTalkVideo Everyone will react differently both biologically and physiologically but everyone will have the typical experiences shared in common such as changes in perception , distortion and amplifications of our senses.
@@unraveledultimatefate you know that and i know that... most don't realize it.
@@AttentionTalkVideo As for debating certainty there's a reasonable evidence for alcohol being a tightly regulated psychoactive substance that is legal to use and why oranges are legally purchasable and obtainable where as no matter how hard you crush the orange, you will approximately predict the amount you're going to juice out, and why apples, though may be much more pleasurable and easier to consume have unpredictable variability of it having a worm or a snake consuming it's own tail, as known the snake oil still illegal and within debates of how it will be regulated, red wine is predictable and essentially one of the most harmless alcoholic drinks in which can be drank in moderation and even more than you're adjusted to and have lasting effects for the whole day without any risk of poisoning or going to emergency due to panic or anxiety attack, alcohol is as well fully researched and it's LD50 is higher than one imagine and you need to drink much more than that to harm the organs, no one has died by ODing on marijuana but sure they have developed HPPD and other psychotic illnesses in which the last century does not knowing anything about. There are a lot that don't realize that.
I'm lying here 8.33am after Night Shift, vaporising nicotine and weed
While drinking Gin and juice followed by a melatonin supplement to get some shut eye.
Everything and more than is mentioned in this very informative vid. 😂
Adhd poster child.
grateful you found our videos of value. Thanks to posting.
This didn’t really cover much of anything
what would you have liked to hear?
Wow what about the medication you given out and the addiction to your medication....
Not clear on your statement? Are you implying that stimulats are addictive? Did an interview with Dr. Rostain of UPenn years ago. Stimulats are abused (athletes or students seek them to enhance performance). They are not addictive in the sense you have to go to rehab. Again they are often abused like alchol etc. That isn't related to ADHD it is just abuse.
thanks for posting.
@AttentionTalkVideo I'm talking about the addiction of your medication and the side effects of those drugs. Let's not cover what medication is drugs.
@@iknownothingsiouxfallssd441 Sorry i'm lost... "your medication"... what are you referring to?
I have a smoking weed since the 5th grade. Yes over the years I cut back tremendously. I'm now 40 and and recently got diagnosed with autism ADHD and dyslexia.
Really I have autism and the ADHD and dyslexia are symptoms / side effects that come with autism.
I still smoke but I smoke only two to three hits of a joint a day and that's it. I no longer smoke to get high I smoke to even my brain out if that makes sense.
When you have autism your brain is all over the place You're almost not in touch with reality of what's going on around you with normal people. It's like they see the world one way and an event that happened one way but you see a completely different way. You don't feel the same way as other people feel we have autism when it comes to emotions sympathy empathy and things like that.
I have to keep smoking because honestly I don't like the person I am when I don't. Really what I mean is I don't like autism because that's who I am I'm autistic person and I accepted that.
Smoking is the only thing that makes me feel normal that slows my brain down enough so I can function with my family and kids and be loving caring thoughtful considerate emotionally available.
Without smoking weed I'm an ass hole, really I show sounds autism that looks like I'm an ass hole. But when I smoke I don't even really feel high I just feel like everything makes sense.
I made my mind up I'll never stop regardless of the consequences. I can't live another 40 years being a ass to my family being emotionally blocked off living with all the traits and disadvantages of being autistic and haven't ADHD.
I'd rather live now and have a decent quality of life that is filled with love consideration thoughtfulness for the next 40 years.
Whatever the consequences are I'll deal with them when they come it'll probably hit me hard when I get older but at least I will lift my younger years and a better state with the people that matter
I try and keep as open a mind as i can. This topic is interesting. I get posts on both extremes. Generally research (as i understand it) is clear. Cannabis isn't an ADHD treatment. Still all research can't always trump a persons experience and thus i'm open to the fact it can be helpful in some way to people.
That said, i like your post!!! There is a level of self-awareness AND self-control that i admire. Given your conditions (which are challenging) i can see how you could come to your conclusions.
Thanks for posting!
I'm 34 and only just connecting the dots that I have ADHD. I self medicate with weed constantly, tried concerta recently and it really helps. My doctor is not cool with it, I've tried to stop but my medication doesn't last through my whole day and when I got stressed out I took up an offer to smoke at work. Told my doctor and tried to talk about a different dosage or a strategy for what I can do when the meds have worn off but I was instead met with a threat to not get me if I test positive, but I know it's in me for 30 days and the future is a failed test. I feel hopeless, took my whole life this far too put the pieces together and figure out why life was so hard.
the challenge is stimulants are a controlled substances (people abuse them). In that context Physcians are on alert. This results in them being VERY causus. There are times they should be and times where they shouldn't. The key is to understand where they are coming from and work towards trust.
That said, don't give up. If you are connecting the dots and find concerta is helping realize you are moving forward and managing your life more intentionally. There is no magic wand... it takes time... you are making progress. Keep learning and working on it. You can do it!
Thanks for posting.
@@AttentionTalkVideo
@@b1232r you are very welcome!
How long and how often do ypu smoke? Being addicted to weed will have many symptoms of adhd. Your ego might not let you accept the blame for your brains current state
@@matthewlyle3295 you wrote... Your ego might not let you accept the blame for your brains current state.
What a brilliant quote!
I like vaping and I like my caffeine. Totally undiagnosed adhd . I also love mints!
nicotine helps people focus... thus, in a way you could be self medicating. On one hand no big deal. On the other vaping can have some negative long term consequences.
Thanks for tuning in
Nicotine doesn't do anything for me. I've always been able to quit instantly, inhaling that crap into my lungs wasn't worth the no effects I felt. Weed on the other hand, actually helps me.
interesting... i wonder why that is for you.
Same
I have adhd. On prescription pills ( Ritalin ) since age 6. Took an IQ test at age 9. Result:129, took another test last year at age 30 after self medicating aka daily thc consumption for over 10 years. IQ dropped by 9 points. Which is less than average. Fluid IQ drops as you get older even in people that don't drink or take illegal drugs. Ergo: weed don't make you dumb. And the benefits outweigh the negatives!
Useing substances is an individual decision. If your quality of life is better in the long run it seems to make since.
I'm not saying your conclusion is incorrect... the reasoning seems to justify the end.
No matter, thanks for posting.
I find that if I use it like medication then it helps in most aspects of my adhd.
Before cannabis I was on meds morning afternoon and night. Still never helped me anywhere near the amount cannabis does.
Like everything it is good in moderation. If over used it won’t work the way you want it too the same way if you take paracetamol twice a day for a month. Then get a headache. That paracetamol isn’t going to help at all.
See I use to use cannabis everyday all day long I would smoke nearly 17 grams per day just to stay active.
When I actually did the reasearch on cannnabis I found out that it’s better if used as a tool instead of a constant.
Ever since I only smoke cannabis as and when I need to but always after 8pm.
The side effects like reduced iq etc etc have resided and my adhd and autism is a lot more manageable.
That’s my opinion perhaps not yours and I can appreciate that
reminds me of the saying... everything in moderation... even moderation.
thanks for posting!
Wait so what is the solution long term then
Not sure there is a long term solution. Right now best practices is to get a proper diagnosis and treatment to manage things as best you can.
Thank for posting your question.
Basically, go f*ck yourself or self medicate and use the resources around us. I agree man, telling us what not to do, then when we ask what to do we get the 🤷🏾♂️. Love the video and content. They can't control the history of research for ADHD or marijuana. It's just frustrating.
@@CarsonHinson2 Not exactly sure what to make of your post. I do know life can be very frustrating!
To be clean and adapt to life with your god given brain.
Exercise and eat well.
I agree with all but the loss of IQ points. Many studies have shown that not to be true. Additionally, something not mentioned here is, I believe we need to be asking which is worse? Because of marijuana helps the anxiety to a point where they can concentrate or just not in pain, the other side effects may be worth it. We're all probably prescribed something, and most have much worse side effects... Which is why more people are switching over. I just wish you'd mentioned this part because I can take a large guess that all the medication for ADHD has much worse or equal side effects. I'm prescribed Adderall and am a vet in college. The struggle is real.
Life is complex. It is challenging to communicate complex things in a simple way. There are short term side effects and long term side effects. Short term cannabis can reduce anxiety. Long term it can increase anxiety. Often we edcucate on the intangible impact of things to help edcuate people to make decisions.
The decision to use cannabis is an individual one based on quality of life.
thanks for posting your thoughts.
@@AttentionTalkVideo yeah idk man. In my senior year rn and learned about this and from what I was told, is that the neurotransmitters block those paths to memory, which is why we temporarily forget things. Nothing about the shortening of dendritic ends. Y'all are so much further along than I am in my studies, but hearing this from two neuroscientists PhDs. As I mentioned prior before, if you're kind of mention the deficits or the problems with THC, you also need to be giving the positive sides for people so they can have an accurate representation of which problem they actually want to fix. Because everyone's problems are different and some people's anxiety may be much worse than their other persisting problems, so yes, they may have some short-term problems or long-term problems, but you're going to have long-term problems with every other alternative.
@@AttentionTalkVideo This is also true of many of the medications used for ADHD. Every SSRI's I have taken has sent me to the hospital, my family now has a history of allergic reactions, and I have permanent physical damage because of them.
I wonder if it’s all strains that are bad for ADHD longterm.
interesting question.
@@AttentionTalkVideo perhaps it is also dose dependent as well? I think more research should be done.
@@jake3028 agreed!
Also hate to admit it is so fudgong true.. i dont want to slow down, that is cryptonite for me, but it has become autopilot, and im completely aware of it, amd i camt turn it off, and it pisses me off becasue i cant do somthing i want to do,..
Try and manage it the best you can.
Are these people funded by pharma companies by any chance?
Not at all.
First of all i'm not arguing with the scientefic evidence but it made me wonder not everyone use the same brain capabilities or at the very least use same areas of their brain to function in a day to day life .
So...Here is my question...
is it still considered to be negetive effect if the mentioned person is to never realize his or her's lack of brain functionality because they had no need for it due to achieving a reasonable result in life dispite the odds?
"Not everyone is supposed to reach the damn stars" (Not saying you shouldn't shoot for it) even if we take that literally there is one per planet.(Elon Musk)
Let me be clear! I'm sharing my thought on this... my thoughts are not necesarly fact. That said, everyone is a bit different. Substances work differently for different people... futher one take substances if you overall quality of life is better (when i say quality of life it is a balance of short term and long term quality of life). In this context and yours there is room for subjectivity. Again, just my perspective.
Thanks for watching this channel
weed gives you all the knowledge but you can only put it into practice sober
interesting statment!
I’m quitting! No good for me just every now n then.
Booya!
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Does the combination of ADHD and Cannabis contribute to narcissism and psychosis?
I have no idea. Sorry.
Very possible.
Ok lets put it in a different light... Its a chemical imbalance witch causes a natural hyper drive sensitivity to kick in. So everyone is seeking a sunstance that will take them out of hyperdrive and back on the highway (flow state) where we can function. Many things will do this but none are a permanent solution. Half of the battle is self control and what we eat or intake as a natural way to offset our imbalance. The other is learning to be aware of the imbalance and only take things accordingly like how a diabetic watches their sugar. Adhd is not going away so a multi angled approach is needed. Ive lived with adhd and obd my whole life and now can teach and focus because of this mindset. Yes the squirrels are always there but it's your choice whether or not you chase them.
Great post... self-awareness and owning ADHD is key.
Thanks
How is this different from the amphetamine prescriptions "professionals" are dolling out. It's unhelpful to hear professionals explain that treating a symptom doesn't equate to curing an ailment.
We're well aware
Any "data" from timelines previous to legalization i.e. 60's, 70's, 90's early 2000's, regarding THC content should be heavily scrutinized. Further, the restrictions on research made the volume of useful data abysmal
Let's all remember that most of what we're hearing regarding Marijuana is filtered through several generations who simply acquiesced to the rhetoric of illicit drug shaming. The evidence in the video is anecdotal at best with zero reference (which should be easy for Harvard professors to provide).
TLDR: This video lacks substance to people looking for answers instead of validation. And weed is awesome as long as you don't consider it a cure... you know, like everything stimulating.
Evidence based and evidence informed information can be helpful. It isn't always 100% accurate as science often proves itself wrong.
That said, witch doctors have strong opinions on circumstantial evidences. I'm not sure that is accurate either.
In the end individuals can make their own choice. Personally i'd prefer to play the odds and understand what is out there and deal with substances that have a methodology behind their formulation... course that is my opinion. I respect you are entitled to yours.
Thanks for posting.
Agreed, in medicinal dosages it is possible for cannabis to be productive long-term, and is greatly dependent on the terpene profile according to your condition/symptoms (different weed gives different effects as a result, as such that terpinolene and pinene having a positive impact to concentration, memory, and focus respectively). This comes from first hand experience, in replacement to 3 trials of anti-depressants being ineffective over long periods of time.
Jeff Copper- Fastest blinker in the West
LMAO!
true
Love to the point posts. Thanks for watching.
F*ck I'm watching this video baked whit adhd and cannabis . Thanks you
not sure what you are thanking us for... information? entertainment? or something to occupy your time.
On one hand it doesn't matter... thanks for watching this channel
I'm watching this video because it is informative for me, which is a warning to the danger for my brain. Sorry for the orrible English and thanks again.
@@thelordofrandom1080 I"m glad it was information. Again, thanks for watching this channel.
Some of the information here is just plain wrong. Thc levels in the 70’s in some cultivars were up to 17%. Weed hasn’t really gotten stronger, the problem is the RATIOS of cannabinoids has been bred to be different. So the BALANCE of the natural plant in some cultivars is not as it was. But the idea that weed in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s was lots weaker than now is not accurate at all. Bear that in mind folks
You wrote... bred to be different.
To me this is a true statement but creates a huge problem. People want black and white answers. In the end the answer is... it DEPENDS. it depends on lots of variables. People don't have the patients to get an education on the context.
Given what i wrote there are likely things if generalized may not apply to certian situations. At the same time some of the inforamation in the right context is accurate.
Thanks for posting your perspective.
@@AttentionTalkVideo I appreciate your reply, the fact still remains that the idea that cannabis was weaker in previous generations has already been disproved. The problem with your statement is that people start believing that all of a sudden we are consuming some “monster’ drug that bears no resemblance to the plant from many years ago. I’ve lived all my life with the misinformation about this plant and it annoys me. I like your work but it’s Important that you don’t spread information that has already been disproved, quite a long while ago. What younger people need is accurate information of which they can base their choices on
@@paulvickers7441 Thanks for your respectful replay. Note you wrote… bred to be different… I agree… thus the cannabis today is different than from years ago.
That said, there is a LOT of miss information about the topic. Honestly, I don’t think we fully understand it. There are those out there who believe it is a cure all. On the research side the information is only as good as to what they were testing for.
We do our best to post topics based on evidence based info (we acknowledge that changes as things evolve) and then allow for discussion. These videos are examples. Many post with diverse opinions.
We can agree to disagree. In the end as long as post are respectful I encourage people to share their thoughts.
@@paulvickers7441 I agree with everything you said. My parents were hippies and I have lived through it all. So, first hand, weed in CA is same as it always was, except you don't need a connection to score. Also, it is now more expensive because of the tax and remains an uncovered cost; Fortunately it is legal now. I hope that microdosing THC with CBD helps a lot of people, who don't buy into misinformation. I dropped out of high school and was struggling for $10/hr. My truth is that ever since I started smoking weed, I got a lot more focus. I completed a B.S. at night, got a brilliant job, bought a house, bought my parents a house, and am ridiculously successful at my studied craft. I feel like when I get to retirement, I will be sitting pretty in my blurry bubble and am good enough with that. I used my ADHD to cover the whole village using weed.
Id have to disagree completely.
This is big pharma talking.
I can respect that you disagree. More importantly i RESPECT how you made your statement and didn't go into a degrading rant.
THANKS for posting!
C
not sure what "C" means but thanks for tuning in
You're taking a study of
I think he was pretty clear... he was sharing research based on the younger brain. One has to be careful not to infer more into things.
Others have commented on this. I'm not an expert in this area and am trying to find someone to speak to reseach on the older crowd. The idea seems simple, the reality finding someone is a bit more challenges. Keep your fingers crossed for me.
thanks for posting.
@@AttentionTalkVideo Which doesn't address what I stated.
@@zamiel3 I'm looking for a guest to speak to the topic for an older crowd. As for applying what he said to everyone... that is what you are doing (your inference). Dr Olivardia was stating this in context.
@@AttentionTalkVideo I'm not taking what he said out of context. Merely taking it as it was presented. It's an interesting topic. I look forward to hearing more.
Wow I wonder which big pharm pays there wages 😂😂😂😂😂
Neither of us received any money from a pharmasecutical company.
If you’re not a user then you shouldn’t be an expert on the plant. I don’t believe in the degrade. I’ve known extremely successful people, including myself, who use it every day and wouldn’t be caught dead without it. Ever heard of Bob Marley? I’d say a pretty successful marijuana user.
Not sure a physcian has to have cancer to be an exper in it.
Yes, there a many extremely successful people using it daily. Not sure that is the reason they are so successful and not so sure it doesn't have a negative impact in some way. Still in some situation for some people it may be of benefit.
Thanks for posting.
It's way better than meth aka Ritalin
I find comments on these videos... thoughts are polerizing. Some promote it. Other realized it hurts them.
Goes to show substances impact people differently.
What is everyone in hype for all that shit? Wrecked a havoc on my mind and also it's effects are largely unpredictable and varies from session to session, it's not a dangerous drug, while it's not entirely harmless, the impact of alcohol, cigarettes combined with adderall and regular coffee drinking poses more risk in long term than one plant with polymorphic features, you weight out the pros and cons of something, and if one does not have any of medical qualifications, then they should be free to legally use it in a recreational regime, it includes in israel, which has the biggest medical cannabis program and a start up nation.
interesting perspective...
Wat. Your. Saying. Is. All. Me. Now. That. Am. 60.l. Feel. Stuck. Or. Lack. Of.. something wrong. With. Me. Not. The. Same. Lost. My. Drive for. Life.. no. Color. In. Life. Just. Back. N. White..
not sure i'm understanding you. I'm guessing you are saying you have smoked for years and are struggling with motiviation etc from the long term effects of smoking. If that isn't what you are saying I'm sorry. If it is hoping you are getting help. If you stop smoking your mood will be a challenge for a while till the brain recovers at what ever level it can.
Shit
that's a statement!
@@AttentionTalkVideo comment of the year
u dont know what u talkiny about
I may not given i'm just a coach. Dr. Olivarida is well studied.
Thanks for posting and sharing your thoughts.