5 Tips to Nail Kick Bass: Common Issues of Multiband Processing + FREE VST/AU SECRET PLUGIN SHOWCASE
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Every good construction needs good foundations.
From Sound Design to Dynamic Enhancement, we will see BASS PROCESSING in another way. Its a simple view on fixing and analizing your low end.
Get the best kick and bass for Psytrance / EDM with very simple steps.
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In this tutorial you will learn:
How to process kick and bass correctly avoiding phase issues.
How to identify phase problems and fix kick and bass.
Easy mistakes to make when synthesizing and processing low end.
Multiband process tips and tricks!
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Advanced professional Killer Tutorial. A lot of helpful informations, Dude!!! Keep it coming ❤️
Thank u man 🙏
The tip on where to place the phase point of the bass in reference to the kick waveform was really helpful.
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you did it again...every time with your most recent tutorial, I get the wow effect. The way you explain these fundamentals, makes it so clear and easy to understand the what why and how. you're an awesome tutor, that's rare... can't wait for the next already. I promise I will tone my enthusiasm down a notch, just one more thing: the oscilloscope... :o I had my eyes on the oszillos megascope which is the best so far I've tried, but I missed the extra mega deal a month ago, and now this'll be for free?? that's incredible! just what I need. I guess the DL link will be only available here, when it goes "live", right? I demo the bomshanka plugins right now, and I like them very much, can't wait to put my hands on this scope as well. and once more, thank you for teaching us with such hi-quality content! :)
My bro thanks a lot for the enthusiasm I really appreciate it. And thanks a lot for the kind words. Its really the price itself to have the people I am trying to help appreciate the work I do 😊❤️.
Yes it will be totally absolutely free. And to be honest is so good. You get direct and side signal for both channels stereo. .. Is ridiculous for musical purposes 🎶📶😊
awesome Tutorial again. bring on the next level!
Thanks a lot my brotha ❤️ hope all blasting in your end of the world!!
killer video Patricio !
Thanks a lot!!! 😊
You should bounce 4 kicks in succession so you can slightly lower the volume of each of them respectively :)
I'm sorry I didn't follow wha?
@@HomegrownAudioChannel I'm sure you know this but if you maybe lower the volume of your kicks 1 to 4 by 0.1 or 0.2 db respectively, it makes a HUGE difference to your track. It's such a small change but gives your whole track a more human feeling. To me, specially in psytrance, the kick is the most important sound and it's my favourite sound design process.
@@HomegrownAudioChannel So if you bounce 4 kicks in succession you can easily create a downward volume automation slope across the bar, or edit the velocity before bouncing etc
I seen it right before blocks changes but nice idea!!!
Thank you so much for this man! You've helped a lot, especially to know WHY things are done.
everything is so clear. Thanks again and keep it up :)
Thank you! 😊
There is a few deeper explanations I am leaving for later cos I'm trying to go on stages 😊.
This is gold, thx mate
Thank u 🙏
Thanks for Occular Scope. I was looking for some time now for such free plugin. I also download PlasicCity Filter. Seems to be a nice simple filter.
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Great follow up to the first kick bass tutorial!
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You are the best... Thanks bro
Thanks!! 💪💪
Love your tutorials
Definitely planning on it! 😊
First of all, another brilliant tutorial, thanks! 2nd, when you bounce and chop the kick and move it slightly, phase is moved a bit as I can see on the OccularScope, the top +ve amplitude of the bassline, is a little further left than the top +ve amplitude of the tail if the kick. I guess this can simply be aligned by selecting the "right" kick sample?
Which brings me to my next question, is the triggering slightly off (it should be sample tight really) of does it not trigger always from the sample point of the phase cycle?
Wicked tutorial and very informative to see the effect of various processing to phase.
P.S. OcuularScope, wicked! Didn't find it on the Boom Shanka site, but I saw the released soon, so I assume Richie wants to finalize the thing before letting it out in the wild.
Yes man had a few minor problems uppon release broke his toe and u know.. But its release is imminent.
Yes also when moving slightly the kick is gonna move the phase a bit more. If u wanna compensate a bit for this and push phase one or 2 degrees forward to compensatw for this chop is also good practice. Is generaly almost unnoticeable in most cases though!
Thanks for the feedback very good observation
very great !
Thanks a lot! 😊
Phase summing is the real deal. Very good tip for EQ in wavetable in Serum. Did you not bounce the bass after everything done in MIDI? I found some bass latency when I’m working. Can destroy your phase again, right?
Yes man definitely is why I check timing in the end on oscilloscope and re-phase the kick into the bass before I end up bouncing kick. Bass I will bounce if necessary to check how many ms its off and eventually if necessary correct on the instrument channel delay compensation.
I rather have midi bass and have full options to change stuff as I go along
I find bouncing the kick a bit more necessary so it lines up with snare and all on beat stuff bass can have few sample delay before u notice the slack
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Boom my brotha 💪
How did you make it so that you can see the kick and bass with different colours in the ocular scope
On top left there is a little button for summing the 2 inputs or visualize separate channels
awesome !
Thanks man!
Another great video from the master! Thanks a lot!
I have a question If I may, not about the tutorial, as it is crystal clear as usual, but about the ocularscope... how can I overlay my kick and bass in the same instance? I only seem to be able to see either one or the other.
It has 2 separate stereo 'inputs'
What I do is I place the scope on kick channel and that insert serial connection is channel 1
Then you turn on the sidechain on it. And go to bass and send from that channel signal into the scope sidechain. (in cubase is the same dialogue like send / return).
This way u get the 2 colors
Homegrown Audio Channel thanks a lot 😃 I’m trying later. Hugs
Buenardooooooooo carnal!!
Gracias carnalito!
I have a question, if i put saturation or multi band compression on the kick after it's render to WAV will that mess up with the phase again and how to fix that? Cheers
Hey it will mess a bit up the phase depending on the frequency any band limited process as is a multiband will inherently add group delay! I try to do these processes before bouncing to audio so it's clean.
Check bouncing the kick again and check both phases see how far it gone. If you have still midi kick available try there copying the saturator u had on your audio kick (I would try this first.
On the other hand, if your audio kick after saturation seems to hit on grid and end is still phasing correctly i wouldn't sweat it.
@@HomegrownAudioChannel Thank you so much for this valuable informations
Heyyy Tron! Wowwww, thank you! Killer info! Checking you video I see this occularscope looking a little like oszillos mega scope, have you tried it yet?
Yes I tried oszillos is killer too!
Big love brotha!!! ❤️
The big difference of "doing EQ" with the partials on the wavetable, is that when you change bass notes the "EQ" is maintained... I always do it like that, now.... plus, and u dont get neither of phase attenuations or pre-ringing effects due to eq filters....
Yes exactly! Except when the problem comes from, in this case, multiband or a non linearity after the synth in the insert chain. Gotta be cautious on the processes used.
@@HomegrownAudioChannel yup... and you've done a great job stepping ahead and making this video that will help lots of ppl....
Thanks a lot it's very constructive . That's always welcome here 😊
Hey! Don’t you run into another problems, when you shift the phase of the kick? Like the init attack?
And in the end of this video, you shift the phase of the kick again, after everything is in phase. Doesn’t make alot of sense.
There is a range where the kick and the bass are somewhat in phase specially after the group delay artifacts from the multibands.
When you shift the phase of the kick I don't think there should be any problems specially since you are bouncing and slicing the beggining of the envelope in the end to get the attack tight.
There is the possibility that if you are using the same kick but 180º out of phase and try to mix it with the exact same kick but with phase 0 thst they will cancel out yes. That is one problem.
Pretty hard to achieve unless really trying to do it or on a very lucky day.
The attack of the kick is done by the pitch envelope as opposed to the bass where its done by the waveform initial phase (and amp/filter envelopes)
Homegrown Audio Channel vk
Great tutorial, the KB sounds great and I finally I learned how to do that with serum I mean the kick. So thank you a lot :) . However the scope you mentioned at the end really caught my interest, but sadly I have not been able to find it on the Bom Shanka website. Did you get it personally or just I am that idiot not to see the option to download it :D ?
I am so sorry i got the description updated just talked to Richie and the release is due very soon but maybe not today as we expected 😔
@@HomegrownAudioChannel No problem, thank you for your answer 😊
Will link u up very soon! Promise.
Look up Bomshanka Machines. There's some great stuff there. Amazing free filter as well.
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What tuning do you use 440 Hz or 432 Hz concert pitch A ?
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This tune has standard 440
How would you tune Serum to 432?
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