Does God REALLY HATE Esau? | Frequently Misused Bible Verse EXPLAINED! |
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Romans 9:13 is one of or maybe THE MOST misquoted passage of the Bible. Calvinists and black Hebrew Israelites love to quote it to explain their theology. In light of the Bible as a whole, what does it actually mean? Sam explains.
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0:00 Introduction
1:12 A brief overview of Romans 9
6:43 Jacob & Esau represent nations, not individuals
9:19 Hate just means less love
13:18 God actually loved Esau and his descendants
19:15 A recap of the context of Romans 9 in light of the previous explanations
20:23 Now does God show mercy only to some individuals? No. (Case study: Pharaoh & the Egyptians) - Zábava
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Buckle up guys; Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:12 A brief overview of Romans 9
6:43 Jacob & Esau represent nations, not individuals
9:19 Hate just means less love
13:18 God actually loved Esau and his descendants
19:15 A recap of the context of Romans 9 in light of the previous explanations
20:23 Now does God show mercy only to some individuals? No. (Case study: Pharaoh & the Egyptians)
Thanks for the time stamps. These were very helpful.
Lol😂 👨🏻 Esau 🧔🏾♂️Jacob
Lol😂 WTF
20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?
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“Humble thyself greatly: for the vengeance of the ungodly is fire and worms.”
Esau is the flesh man. Jacob is the spirit man.
How can these guys not get this? Sure it’s nations too. But it’s also IN us.
So in short God will still use your hard headedness to display his greatness through miracles so that the people of the earth may know him and turn to him. I love this.
If you read the text deeply enough, God uses acts of evil, disobedience, and betrayal, to accomplish his will...
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I appreciate the caller because he actually listens and is interested. I’m learning more, too. Thank you so much Sam. May God abundantly bless & guide you 😇
I was troubled by ‘ Esau I hated’. Thank God for clearing that up . Moreover, this is the first time I am noticing that God helped nations other that Israel in d Bible in defeating its enemies. Opened my eyes😮
me also on this point....however im still troubled why God asked for the destruction of women children and livestock of the idol worshippers. I came across Ezekiel 9:6-7, where God orders the slaughter of men, women and children, as a somewhat new Christian I was obviously disgusted and horrified by the verse, but can my fellow brothers and sisters Christians explain this verse for me
@@lexzenis2544 they were not human. If you read the historian Josephus, you will see that those days were really horrible days to live in.
Giants, half humans and corrupted stocks. It is from the beginning a war against God and his creation.
@@lexzenis2544 my explanation is : God is Love and God is just. God destroyed d whole nation of Sodom. Because it was beyond evil. But nobody (esp Muslims ) seems to be questioning that. In these nations also, nobody is innocent . I know it is hard to believe. But we can see examples today where even children r doing evil. Moreover, God is acting God by being Judge and giving just punishment . He warns Israel that if they do any of these evil, d land will throw u out, as it did to the previous ppl.
@@Damtan01 also the protection that was offered was salvation to all who obeyed the cover of [his] blood. It was almost like a sign that was made from God, but exercised by Lucifer, after all that would have been the deity of Egypt.
@@andrewyoung3896why does it always have to be about sacrificial blood? Sounds like what the devil would do.
I just found this guy and flipping love his HOLY SPIRIT boldness~ BRING IT! Love this! He could not be this knowledgeable without the Holy Spirit teaching him. His boldness testifies.
The depth of Sam’s explanations is greatly appreciated. As my faith grows and as I continue to read the Bible, I realize more and more how the deep the Bible is and how every word is carefully considered. Thanks for your explanations and videos!
Sam makes the Bible easier to understand then anybody I’ve ever heard talk about it 👍🏾 Holy Spirit gave u a powerful gift my friend
Nah you gotta listen to Pastor Gino Jennings. But Sam is pretty good.
you mean he makes it more palatable for you ? ESAU IS DONE ?
He misses things, but he does help me study things and helps me remember, but he misunderstands some things.
Such as? @@Purdin347
@@litkenny2268Gino believes Jesus is the Father, what are talking about? He renounces the Trinity. Smh
Bro Sam the Holy Spirit has bless you truly a wonderful gift of knowledge. Glory to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit- ONE GOD
He may go down in history as our times Holy Theologian . A modern day saint. he is truly a vessel of the Spirit of God that speaks through him. it would not surprise me.
In conclusion, Paul's argument in Romans 9 must be viewed in the context of his broader theological discussion, culminating in Romans 11. While Romans 9 highlights God's sovereign right to show mercy and harden hearts, it is Romans 11:32 that clarifies God's intention: to extend mercy to all humanity. The example of Pharaoh demonstrates that God's actions, even when involving judgment, are ultimately aimed at revealing His power and leading people to recognize Him as Lord. Therefore, God's mercy is not limited to a select few but is available to all, reflecting His desire for all people to come to the knowledge of Him and be saved. This interpretation aligns with the inclusive nature of God's grace and the overarching biblical theme of His redemptive plan for all creation.
Amen
Pharaoh was an individual elected for destruction. Sam is tap dancing. “Not all Israel is Israel” is a reference to individuals not redeemed although they are a part of natural Israel.
@@martelljhixson The phrase “Not all Israel is Israel” comes from Paul's writings and emphasizes the distinction between natural descent from Abraham and being part of the true, spiritual Israel, which is defined by faith in Jesus Christ rather than just physical lineage. Paul explains that true membership in God's people is not determined by physical descent but by being part of the promise given to Abraham, which is fulfilled in Jesus Christ. This implies that being part of Israel (God's chosen people) is more about spiritual identity and faith than about ethnicity or genealogy.
The example of Pharaoh shows that God’s will and purpose are paramount, and He has the right to use individuals for His greater plan. This serves to highlight the broader concept of divine sovereignty over salvation and judgment.
The idea that "Not all Israel is Israel" further underlines that God’s true people are defined by faith and promise rather than by ethnic or physical heritage. This aligns with the New Testament teaching that salvation through Christ is open to all, Jew and Gentile alike, who have faith.
In summary, these concepts emphasize that God's plans and purposes transcend human understanding and expectations. Divine sovereignty means God has ultimate authority over all creation, including human destinies. Additionally, being part of God's people (true Israel) is defined by faith and adherence to God's promise rather than mere physical descent. These teachings encourage believers to trust in God’s plan and to recognize that true membership in God's family is through faith in Jesus Christ.
@@Baqheera you’re ignoring the clear ramifications of the statement and it’s impact of the point Paul made in Romans 9. God’s Sovereign plan extend to the salvation of individuals. Read Romans 9 again. It’s clear that God had destined individuals to salvation and some for destruction.
@@martelljhixson While I understand your perspective on Romans 9, it's essential to interpret this chapter in the context of the entire section, Romans 9-11, where Paul discusses God's sovereign plan for both Jews and Gentiles.
Romans 9 does indeed highlight God's sovereignty and the example of Pharaoh illustrates God's right to show mercy or harden hearts according to His purpose. However, this isn't the whole picture. Romans 11:32 provides crucial insight, stating, "For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all." This verse suggests that God's ultimate intention is to extend mercy to all humanity, not just a select few.
Moreover, the notion that "Not all Israel is Israel" underscores the distinction between natural descent and spiritual membership in God's people. This supports the view that God's people are defined by faith in Christ, not merely by ethnic or physical lineage. Paul's argument culminates in the inclusive message of God's redemptive plan, which is available to both Jews and Gentiles who believe.
In summary, while Romans 9 addresses God's sovereign choices, it is Romans 11 that clarifies His overarching desire for all to receive His mercy. God's actions, even when involving judgment, are ultimately aimed at revealing His power and leading people to recognize Him as Lord, thereby extending His grace to all who have faith.
Deuteronomy 23:7: But you are not to detest an Edomi, because he is your brother, and you are not to detest an Egyption, because you lived as a foreigner in his land.
Mal 1:4
Yes, but that not the point, the point is Esau detest us, thats whats up... The whole scenario is symbolized by Abel vs CAin... Esau is Cain.... , God never harted Cain, cain jus made a bad choice, he chose the devil,
Awesome! Please do more like this. Open the Bible and show the deeper meaning through context. You, Sam, teach with clarity, insight, and yet concision. And you don’t make that mistake of breaking context. May God continue to work through you and your ministry.
Thank Christ for the wizdom he bestows upon you. Fell very blessed and thankful to Jesus.🙏
Obadiah he said he will get rid of all them
Obadiah 1:18 NIV
[18] Jacob will be a fire and Joseph a flame; Esau will be stubble, and they will set him on fire and destroy him. There will be no survivors from Esau.” The Lord has spoken.
Agreed.
The scriptures are clear. When YAH says: “Esau I hated”, I believe He meant it. He knows the end from the beginning, so any argument that He actually loved Esau until Edom did something present deeper theological issues-was YAH being reactive?
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That prophecy from Obadiah didnt say God hated Esau in its context..The entire Chapter 1 spoke of Esau's horrible behaviour in permitting foreigners to kill Israel & take them captive whilst they looked on & all but laughed...God declared that Judgment upon them & judgement is judgment same way hed declared Judgment on Isrsel at times when they did wrong worshiping false gods (fallen angels,Satan), though God clearly stated he loved Israel & even has a peculiar special covenant wiIl Israel the Judgment & hating or loving r two separate issues
@@imperialkingdom4821 I let the scripture speak for itself. Obadiah does not state that YAH hated Esau/Edom (it’s implied if you know scripture). Look at the prophets Malachi’s writings:
2- “I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
3- And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
3- Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.” (Mal 1:2-4)
He has indignation toward them FOREVER. Furthermore, Esau hated his brother (Genesis 27:41) and despised his birthright (Genesis 25:34) and knowingly disobeyed his father (Genesis 28:8-9; 36:2) by mixing with the daughters of Canaan.
YAH knew all of this and Esau hated first. The judgment is fitting. Jacob’s seed was judged because of their disobedience, Esau’s seed was not judged because of disobedience because he and his seed was not chosen to be given the law. YAH chasteneths His sons and who He loves (Deu 8:5, 2Sam 7:14, Pro 13:24, 19:18, 23:13). Therefore Esau was not corrected.
The book that is constantly ignored and shunned.
And we know why.
"Serve the Lord with fear and rejoice with trembling."
Psalm 4
O sons of men, how long will you turn my glory into disgrace? how long will you love vanity and look for leasing? Sela.
But know ye that the Lord hath set apart for himself the godly; The Lord will listen when I call to Him.
Be afraid and do not sin. Talk to your heart on your bed and be at peace. Sela.
Offer sacrifices to righteousness and trust in the Lord.
Many say: Who will show us something good? Lord, raise the light of your face over us.
You have filled my heart with joy more than when their grain and wine were growing.
8 I will lie down in my room and sleep, because you, Lord, only give me a safe place to live.
Psalm 1
Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, nor stand in the way of sinners, nor sit on the throne of the contemptuous.
But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and on his law he meditates day and night.
And he shall be like a tree planted by streams of water, that bringeth forth its fruit in its season; its leaf also does not wither; and whatever he does will prosper.
They are not wicked, but like chaff that the wind drives away.
Therefore the wicked will not stand in judgment, nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.
For the Lord knows the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked will perish.
Son of Man!
I enjoy this version of the scriptures. Which translation are you using?
Thanks, brother, for clarifying the concept of God's loving and hating of individuals.
This is a good lesson for Hebrew Israelites
Great teaching. Thank you. And praise be to God.
May God continue to bless and use Sam.
Thank you Sam may God continue to bless you with His love, and wisdom
Thanks for this information! I didn’t pick up on this when I read these passages before. I have learned so much from this video.
It’s so simple to understand when you’re not obsessively biased
Outstanding analysis! I am astonished; may God bless you abundantly!
Sam may the God Almighty continue to bless you with Bible knowledge and the wisdom to accurately explain the word of God.
Praise God for the wisdom, 'explained well '. Praying many will benefits on this discussion. Thanks Sam. God bless.
We Love you brother thanks for the Bible study. Greetings from Washington DC 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you so much I’m learning more than ever.
Click!! A light switch just went on, and what I did not see before: I see now.
Wonderful knowledge to learn, and this insight will help in other similar scenarios.
The word HATE can mean to love less.
Luke 14:26 “If anyone comes to me and does not HATE his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.
This is what I heard explained by a Messianic Jew, that love/hate was an ancient linguistic idiom used to indicate preference, and in that context didn’t mean “hate” as we use it today. Scripture says Jacob loved Rachel and Leah he hated, but we know he didn’t literally hate the mother of six of his sons: he did prefer Rachel to Leah, and that’s what the scripture is saying.
Jim, again you didn’t watch the full video. This is mentioned explicitly in the video!
@@ChristOverAllJeremy : There was no need for a lengthy video when a single sentence uttered by Jesus helps understand what the word 'hate' means.
I was just stating a fact. Not finding fault.
That’s what hate means to dislike 😂
@@That_one_introvert. : Yes! Worshipers of Jehovah and Disciples of Jesus cannot hate in an evil sense. They are governed by love.
1 John 4:8 Whoever does not love has not come to know God, because God is love.
There is one thing True Christians hate.
Psalms 97:10 O you who love Jehovah, hate what is bad.
That was truly edifying.
God keeps His word to Abraham and Jacob while dealing with the individuals and ultimately fulfilling His plans.
God bless you Sam
No one will get away with knowingly misquoting scriptures
Huh? Sam gets away with it? Smh
Thank you- I always felt that the passage in Romans wasn’t quite interpreted correctly and it is so good to have a proper understanding of it!!!!
Love this . Study to show thy selves approved
Great Clip. Thank You
Thank you Sam, great explanations💪
This has been an awesome teaching, thank you!
Thank you Sam for explaining the scriptures so well i struggled with understanding them all my life .God bless 🙏 you
Thanks for answering the question I been looking for as I pray and wondering about it. Because the videos and people I came accoss took that word to heart about hate
So well explained and clarified. Thank you Sam😊
Holy I am blown away. All glory to God.
Sam, you're the Boss. Your knowledge and understanding of the scriptures is amazing.
God bless you Sam.
God bless you 🙏 indeed...
Love from Nigeria 🇳🇬
Excellent content!👏🏿
This is definitely worth another viewing. 😮✝️🙏❤️🔥🙌🥰
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Thank You
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Always teaching.
I am edified for it.
Peace and Blessings.
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Dear brother Sam, may YAHWEH s Shalom guard your heart and mind, through our LORD YESHUA Ha MASHIAKH.
I do thank our heavenly FATHER, that HE gifted and raised you, to be a tool in HIS hands.
Thank you, for your service to the Ecclesia.
Greetings, in brotherly love, in CHRIST JESUS, from Germany.
Ruben Lehmann
This guy is Esau. Slippery serpent
Malachi 1:4 Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.
The Edomites stemmed from Esau, Jacobs brother.
Romans 9:13 Just as it is written: “I loved Jacob, but Esau I hated.”
God's blessings were directed at Jacob and his descendants. Esau went into to desolation as did other nations.
I love the way you paused the conversation as soon as he read "two nations are in your womb". Beautiful!
I have different theory on the ‘ two nations in the womb ‘ and ‘ Esau being hated ‘.
It has to do with Esau being very different physically, he was a ‘ ruddy, earthy man ‘ , he had ‘ red hair ‘, hairy like an animal , and they had to use animal skins to fool Isaac.
It goes back before the flood to the Genesis 6 account where the Watcher angels initiated the hybridization of angels and humans to corrupt the bloodline to the Messiah. The whole world, every human person was corrupted in some amount by the time of Noah and the flood. When the sons of Noah were to find wives there were no genetically pure women left on earth and they were to find as pure as possible of wives to repopulate the earth after the flood. All three wives were carriers of some of the corrupted DNA of the Nephilim , the wife of Ham being most prevalent as Ham begat Canaan who was the father of most of the evil giant Canaanite tribes. Even the wife of Shem who turned out to be most pure and would carry the lineage to the Messiah still was carrier of a small recessive gene of the hybrids which down the generations surfaced in the person of Esau.
Jacob and Esau were fraternal twins both from the seed of Isaac and two separate eggs of Rebecca. One egg was pure ( Jacob ) and the other was containing DNA of the ‘ seed of the serpent ‘ from the family of Shem’s wife from before the flood.
That was why Esau, even though he was first born could not be allowed to be in the lineage to the Messiah. That is why he had to be cheated out of his birthright.
Another reason for God to ‘ hate ‘ Esau was as part of that evil blood line he represented the plan to prevent the coming of the Messiah that would save mankind.
The bad part of the story is where Isaac was all in favor of putting him in position to ruin the pure bloodline. Jacob and his mother Rebecca orchestrated plans to keep Esau from being the chosen one.
A similar situation occurred in the life of Judah, who was also in the lineage to Messiah but he didn’t take the correct path and married a Canaanite woman who was obviously of bad bloodline to be inserting in the Messianic lineage. Judah found a good pure blood wife for his sons but had failed to do so for himself. The Lord had to remove the first two sons before the lineage could be corrupted and would have had to remove the third when he was old enough to marry Tamar, but Tamar was wise to the situation and bypassed the Canaanite son of Judah and arranged to bear a child directly from Judah, thus keeping the lineage pure.
@@MichaelWysocki-ks5xtInteresting theory. Speculation can have its place; but we don’t have clear scriptural warrant for this.
Love this. Buuuuuut what about the question of Paul: But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory- even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?
1. That is not talking about salvation, it's talking about some are kings some slaves ect.
2. God chose those who reject Christ to destruction but God gives them A choice not like a robot
Sam you are on a whole different level brother I learned a lot from you I never seen anything like it you've got the Holy Spirit moving through you big time.
Brother Sam is brilliant in clearing doubts and misinterpretations and out of context explanations of Bible verses ! He clears every foggy presupposition and confusion that pops up from so called theologians ! I am glad that there is a Christian who clears the way that we the redeemed could walk in absolute confidence ! Well done brother Sam !❤
No he doesn't. This man is just like every other apologetic out there. Pick and choose Bible versus and call it context
@@lionzion1879 Thanks for your comment which you are entitled to express. Sam Shamoun is a Christian who is undoubtedly the man who knows The only true Word of God that's the Holy Bible from Genesis to Revelation ! He is not only an apologist but a valiant defender and exponent of the Christian faith ! If you need help in coming to Christian faith, please reach out brother Sam Shamoun ! Thank you you ! Have a great day !
@@lionzion1879 did you receive my reply to your comment ? I hope so ! Cheers
@@lionzion1879 my reply to your comment was : you have the right to express your opinion as regards to Brother Sam Shamoun's on the particular topic of GOD'S preference for Issac over Esau. I suggest you listen intently and to the end that explanation from the scripture that is the Word of GOD in the Holy Bible ! Brother Sam is well versed in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation ! Thank you for your reply ! Cheers
@@geoffreychandran9654 Sam is manipulating scripture, and not telling you all the full truth.
Thank you Sam
Hebrews 12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.
When Sam is like this... Its something special. I learned so much here
WOW this answered so many questions but most of all to understand the Lord you MUST read ALL of the word and the Lord is faithful to reveal all truth through his inspiration of the word.
I have never heard anyone explain it like that. Wonderfully biblically put Sam!!
But he’s absolutely wrong. You had better read the book of Obadiah.
God loves us all!
You are a really great teacher thank you !
This is amazing!
This is wrong and a lie. Read the book of Obadiah
Obadiah lets you know what the deal is!!!!
He looked after Esau and his Mum in the desert. God is able to turn all things for good to those who love Him, while we were yet sinners He died for us, my God is good all day long and He is love, forever and ever AMEN 💕
You're confusing Esau with Ishmael.
Esau sought repentance with tears yet found no place. Smh.
Ok, OK I HAVE TO STOP in the middle of this😮 I don't know how the Lord led me to you, sir, but I AM SO GLAD he did 😅 Amazing content! Subbing now.
Psalm 145:
8 The LORD is gracious and compassionate, slow to anger and abounding in loving devotion. 9 The LORD is good to all; His compassion rests on all He has made. 10 All You have made will give You thanks, O LORD, and Your saints will bless You.…
Scripture twisting at its finest
Obadiah 1
“8Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?
9And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.
10For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.”
"18And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.”
Contextually, God never hated Essau from the onset and to the end as Sam explained. The wiping out of Edom as stated in Obadiah, is a result of the violence they allowed, and perpetrated on Israel (Jacob). Interestingly enough, you skipped verses 11-14, clearly stating what resulted in God's judgment on them. I don't see any scripture twisting here. I think you got it twisted. I hope this helps.
Agreed. Obadiah is clear.
It’s doesn’t fit the prevailing Christian doctrine so hate must mean something other than hate, like “less love”.
Nevermind that Esau despised his birthright (Gen25:34) and swore to kill his brother Jacob (Gen27:41-42), and took wives of the canaanites knowing father Isaac disapproved (Gen36) as well as the Ishmaelites.
I will accept what the scriptures say. YAH hated Esau because Esau hated his brother, hated his birthright, hated his father, and mixed into the nations who would then waste away his brother while he stood by. If there is any person or nation that YAH should hate, it should be Esau/Edom.
2 Esdras 6:9
9 For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.
@@fchevan1 Any time I see "YAH" I usually assume someone is a cultist.
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Psalms 68:4
4 Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him.
JAH in Strongs Concordance is H3050- pronounced YAH (no J in ancient Hebrew).
Deeper question is what cult are you a part of, and what name do you call your god?
@@fchevan1 I'm a hebrew Israelite like yourself sir 🤣 same cult.
It's videos like this that make me wish we could give more than one thumb's up!
Y’all our god sends!
Awesome
First, I am FAR from a Calvinist, but it's very important to read Obadiah 1:10-12 and Ezekiel 25:12-13. In short, Edom stood by and allowed Israel to be plundered. It could also be seen that God loved Esau less as a nation because of what they did and how they mistreated Israel.
Bingo 🎯. I was just about to post a comment referencing the exact same passage from the Prophet Obadiah, and I saw that you had already done so. 👍
I do agree that Esau represents a nation. I agree that when scripture says "Jacob I loved but Esau I hated," does not mean God did not love Esau. I agree that what the text is stressing to us is Gods' plan is to work thru Jacob, and by extension, the nation of Israel.
I am a 4 point Calvinist and Sam is disingenuously misrepresenting the Calvinist position. I'm certain it's not difficult to find a few bone headed "Calvinist," who make outlandish statements but to paint ALL Calvinist with the same brush would be like picking a few totally bone headed Catholics (which a blind monkey could do) and saying they represent Sam's position.
Not cool Sam. 👎
Romans 9:13 Just as it is written: “I loved Jacob, but Esau I hated.”
God's blessings were on Jacob and his descendants. Esau and the Edomites were left to fend for themselves. As did many other nations, Edom ceased to exist.
He's lying because he knows he's an Edomites....Edom means red....whatever race of people turn red?
Perfect, thank you.
Very good study
Sam is a Treasure!
Great teaching
Excellent teaching
Amazing. I have learned something new today from Gods word. Thats exciting.
May the true spirit (holy spirit) leads us home in Jesus name (AMEN)Jesus comes soon
Hebrews 12:16-17 KJV
[16]Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as👉 Esau, 👈who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
[17]For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was 👉rejected:👈 for he found👉 no place of repentance,👈 though he sought it carefully with tears.
No repentance for Esau.
Sam - simply put you r rightly dividing the Word. May the good Lord continue to bless you bro!
I have to rewatch this this is deep
The scriptures states that the father is always knowing so he knows that Esau will sin.
I’m a follower of Jesus Christ not John Calvin.
I believe John Calvin himself would say the same thing.
Calvinists are followers of Jesus and not Calvin.
Agreed. Calvin was against any sort of claim or attention. That's why the only ppl who refer to Reformed believers as "calvinsts" are those who don't understand Reformed theology because Reformed theology is Biblical theology. Further, the biggest advocates and believers of Reformed theology are well versed in the original languages and historical literature. Lastly, Reformed theology isn't based on Romans 9, it's based on the entire Bible. For example, John 6:44, Deuteronomy 10:14-15; Psalm 33:12; Psalm 65:4; Psalm 106:5; Haggai 2:23; Matthew 11:27; Matthew 22:14; Matthew 22:22; Matthew 22:24; Matthew 24:31; Luke 18:7; Romans 8:28-30; Romans 8:33; Romans 11:28; Colossians 3:12; 1 Thessalonians 5:9; Titus 1:1; 1 Peter 1:1-2; 1 Peter 2:8-9; Revelation 17:14; Mark 13:20; John 15:16; Acts 13:48; Acts 18:27; 1 Corinthians 1:27-29; Philippians 1:29; Philippians 2:12-13; Ephesians 1:4; Ephesians 2:10; 1 Thessalonians 1:4-5; 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14; 2 Timothy 1:9; James 2:5; Revelation 13:8; Revelation 17:8.
@@shawnglass108if they reject Paul at times, then they’re not truly following Jesus..
“Context and Calvinism never go together” - BtF’s Kevin Thompson
This is a pretty good outline of the story of Jacob and Esau. However very few people know the whole truth. Even though the bible does not prophesied this, B'nai Esav actaullu pulled the old switch back on Jacob after their exile from the land. Sons of Esau had replacement theology long before the Christian era. Once the 42,360 Judeans returned from Judea,there would be great tension between the two houses. This tension would lead all the way up to Christ advent amd long after. Sons of Esau would reject the Messiah because he was to restore the Israelites to their former glory which Esau dos not wish to see. This was the true situation going on in the land at the time of Christ. B'nai Esav wants a Messiah all for himself instead of one who came to restore B'nai Yakov! Jesus came for all people on earth but had direct mission to the Israelites left in the land, while many of his apostles would get the scattered Israelites. This would be the tension between Judaism and Christianity. The things Esau tried to do to infiltrate the church or houses of worship are what God hates. God will not destroy the entire house of Esau. More they were removed from their land inheritance for 2,000 years as were the Israelites.
This is a good verse against the Black Hebrew Roots as well.
This a good lesson for the Baptist who boast their sins saved them, not yours, your sins condemn you so go get saved..
@@dianetigert1310. I was raised in a Southern Baptist church and never did I encounter any Baptist ideology that declared anything other than the gospel that we are all born into original sin and must come to a second birth/salvation in Christ Jesus for salvation. I’ve never heard of any denominational church “boast their sins saved them.”
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Did you ever cross paths with the Jehovah Witness, Mormon or Catholic's?
@@dianetigert1310 You didn’t specifically reference JWs, Mormons or Catholics - only Baptists. There are few JWs in our area, and even fewer Mormons. I am familiar with many tenets of their ideologies, but not with the point you reference. The Catholics I know personally & have encountered on social media, appear to believe that their infant baptism & membership in their “true church” is their salvation. I cannot agree on either point nor of the esteem/adoration given to Mary, but I have never encountered any of these boast their sins saved them either.
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now you understand why their sins condemn them but not yours......twisting the message to persecute them while blessing yourself is blasphemy.
Great exegesis. Line upon line, throught upon thought, precept upon precept.
I never understood Romans 9-11 until now. Thanks be to the Holy Spirit using brother Sam. In Jesus name. 🙏
Great teaching. Very insightful. Unfortunately, this video could be used as the prime example of how not to talk to another person if your goal is to bring them to a knowledge of the Truth. Instead it’s the epitome of being condescending and patronizing. I had trouble staying on track with what was being taught because I felt so uncomfortable for the guy off camera. Not trying to judge the heart of the guy teaching, just hoping to help other Christians be aware of how they come across towards unbelievers. We often tend to put off an air of arrogance in knowing the right answer, and miss the point of putting on display the loving heart of Christ. Don’t be so impressed with what you know… “for knowledge puffs up, but love builds up.”
I hear a teacher instructing a student whom is learning. Bless this evangelist.
The comfort you feel from lies and loopholes does not effect the words of God. Even in the end you refuse to be or even act righteous.
Thank you Sam for the insight. Being Christian is a lot better than being Calvinist or any other denomination. Even yours I suppose. Praise God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit in whom we have been baptized.
Sam is Assyrian as I am. We are all Eastern Orthodox Christian
@@dannydiamondboyyeah, but sam is going to a catholic church, but idk how much of the doctrine he believes in
Calvinism is not a denomination, it is part of a theological belief.
Sam I'd blown about by every wind of doctrine it seems
That's a lie. The Assyrian church and the east, the Syriac Catholic church and the Chaldean church are all 3 ethnically assyrian, Catholic churches.
I'm among them
Babe! This was gold! Thank you so much for bringing Clarity to a scripture that has been so miss talked for so very long! This is one of the Hebrew Israelites favorite scriptures to justify their hate of white people!
To be Loved by God or Hated by Him is better than the 3rd option of being outside of His love.
“For you are not a God who delights in wickedness; evil may not dwell with you. The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers. You destroy those who speak lies; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man.”
Psalm 5:4-6 ESV
How do you explain psalm 5?
Put Eph.2:1-5 between Rom.9:22 & Rom.9:23 ~the vessels of wrath and the vessels of mercy ~ are the same person ~ BUT GOD... As in we were all children wrath, BUT GOD...
Ive learned some interesting info here ~thanks..~ we are all seeking God...
~so the power may be of God~I suppose?
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1Cor.15... the last enemy to be overcame is death...
Satan's little season seems to explain a lot~> Revelation 20.
And
...Trust in the living God, Who is the Savior of *ALL* men SPECIALLY those that believe.~>1Tim. 4:10
...As in Adam *ALL* die even so in Christ shall*ALL*be made alive.~>1COR.15: 22
.God our Savior, who will have*ALL*men to be saved and come to the knowledge of truth.1Tim. 2:4
...Then said Jesus, Father forgive them for they know not what they do. Luke. 23:34
...This seems like the Gospel -to me~, ( GOOD NEWS [ ALL ~ WAYS ] ) *IMHO*
Father God, guide us all...I pray.
Yes, 2 or 3 times - im rather beat up - thus i have excessive time. Did you notice that God says he will save all men .1Tim.2:3-6 ...-God our savior, Who will have All men to be saved and come to the knowledge of truth.
Wow, thank u for this Sam bc I couldn't really understand this
This is a great teaching not just for us but for the cult of "The Hebrew Israelites" cuz they use this to show they are the chosen ones
God does not love someone more or less. Romans 2:11 “ God does not show favoritism or partiality.”
27:08 Ironically, I think you just you scored a point for the "anti- free will" calvinist.
When I was doing a deep dive into Exodus, the Holy Spirit showed me that the emphasis isn't that God flipped the switch on Pharaoh's heart, rather _the thought of God_ and _an entity he didn't know being above HIM/Pharaoh_ is what hardened his heart. How dare the God of Israel be above the high and mighty Pharaoh??
It's very similar to how one can have a broken heart... It's a choice that directly affects the status of your well-being. Through Pharaoh's stubbornness, the wonders of God were revealed to Egypt and Israel.
What do we say about this verse:
Obadiah 1:17-18 (KJV) 17 But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions. 18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be [any] remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken [it].
We can say this was prophetically fulfilled. There are no more Edomites! Whereas, the lineage of Jacob (the Jewish people) continues.
Yes. That's why he says it. God did not put anyone into hell that He loves.
Excellent, very interesting and formative indeed. Amazing how rich the Bible is ! Off topic, but just wondering if the Koran ever even uses the word love ?
Simple google search let me to this article: www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/love.htm
In short, yes. But also used in a negative way.
Have to admit this is very compelling. I’ve heard before that hate meant more like love less. It’s easy to forget that. One of my comforts is knowing that God is fair and that he loves perfectly. God loves my children more than my wife or I do. He loves them perfectly. I’m reminded that hate was even used in reference to Leah. And surely Jocob did not hate Leah. I know you aren’t going as far as to say who is saved and who isn’t just that God preferred his brother over him. It is comforting to know that a man like Esau even though his sins are clear in the Bible may have believed in God. The God of his father. We all sin and have fallen short. I pray for discernment. I want to know the truth and don’t want to believe an error.