Tested: DeWalt's Answer to Milwaukee Gen 3? 1st 20v Impacts in 6 Years: DCF911 DCF921
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The best deal is on the 3/8": amzn.to/3hbmRqf Check out our T-shirt Shop: bit.ly/3z98ryF and amazon store (that only includes winners): amzn.to/3rjhZ6P. Check out @Joethetoolguy ! The new offerings from DeWalt include a whole lot of heavy impact hitters like DCF850B DCF911B DCF913B DCF923B & DCF921B so we take the 1/2" new hotness and hit the dyno vs the current market go-to the Milwaukee 2855-20 M18 Compact and 2555-20 M12 Compact impacts. The results honestly blow our socks off, and we are happy campers! - Auta a dopravní prostředky
![DeWalt ATOMIC 20V Brushless Impact Wrenches and Driver [DCF850, DCF921, and DCF923]](/img/n.gif)
The 3/8" version (same power) is currently the best deal: amzn.to/3IjEoIY
How much more beans can your get out of a dewalt 5 than a 4 amp?
@@toolsdealsautomobiles6980 XR 5.0 vs 4ah compact? Hope they will be equal given the cell size difference.
Where can we find a copy of your spreadsheets?? Awesome videos love your content!!
I would also like to find out where to find copies of the spreadsheets, do you have a website we can see these at? Or a way we can request the latest???
Have you tested the 3/8" version? Still thinking which one to get
Competition is a good thing for consumers. Having an unbiased, 3rd party validate manufacturing claims or provide head-to-head comparisons on video for everyone to see is even better for consumers. Thank you!
Between these guys and project farm, they answer a LOT of questions most of us have about our tools and equipment.
“We’re gonna test that!”
Yes. Consumer reports has been rendered completely obsolete.
Project farm constantly tests Chinese rubbish though, this channel tests the best of the best and products that can be bought outside of the USA
@@JayGee6996Nonsense. He tests the whole spectrum. Regardless, you haven't seen this channel testing the Chinese rubbish? This channel is great for power tools that spin. Project Farm tests just about everything.
The 2 most non biased tool channels out here rn
i am a milwaukee fan but its good to see dewalt beat milwaukee, we need competition thats good for consumers
I use dewalt just cause that's what's at the jobsite. But it's food too see someone who isn't so "black vs white " A tools a tool and I'm glad each side is getting better and better. Cool to see someone open minded. If batteries weren't a issue I would use all kinds of different tools
@@iankreifels2202 hi, get a battery adapter and use any tool with any battery, Amazon has them,
Just remember Milwaukee makes a 600 foot pound 3/8 impact now. Model# 2960-20
🇨🇳🤓
@@AATreeService Yes, the mid torque as they call it. A very excellent impact wrench, indeed. However, it is not nearly as compact as the stubby (and this DeWalt, I would assume).
All of my cordless tools are DeWalt but I'd be just as happy with Milwaukee. As with all things, it began with that first purchase that got me invested in the battery system.
Good to hear someone say the truth instead of being a fan boy. I feel moat people stick to a brand because they have the batteries and back it up by fanning over tbe brand
Also the 20V cell type batteries are easily rebuildable with no pesky electronics inside. I won’t upgrade to powerstack because those batteries are landfill when they go bad.
Yep same here
Thanks for the shout. You’re making me spend more money fam, well I guess you can never have enough ugga duggas
Blame DeWalt! :P
Never enough ugga duggas!
I'm a milwaukee guy but it's nice to see dewalt finally putting some pressure on milwaukee in the impact wrench market. Only going to make milwaukee step up their game again
Same here brother but the question is durability and efficiency of DeWalt almost 3yrs using M18 and m12 impacts and still in top notch performance
Iknorite! It's about time. I bet you are excited for next year!
Still, Makita is the brand to beat. Reminds me of German premium cars, most people want to talk about who is in the 2nd and 3rd place, Merc or BMW, when they can just skip ahead to the no1, Audi.
@@pflaffik in regards to power yes, but the vertical battery on the m12 stubby makes it in a league of its own.
literally if you can fit your hand there, the stubby can get there too. Only time i couldnt get a stubby somewhere is cus of how long the socket was.
@@allenignacio9790 My dcf894 is going on five years, but I tend to take care of my tools.
"Injection of selection".....smooth like peanut butter.
Love the Channel...👍 I have the DeWalt dcf923 3/8" impact wrench and love it , it seems that Timber mode is just a little bit faster out of the gate than the #2 speed and that does help a bit when driving bigger fasteners like Timber Locs or Lag bolts , but that's it , with smaller nuts and bolts you can't even tell the difference .......
Competition really makes brands incorporate new technology and man is it great! Thank you for the content guys!
Then they should try to beat Makita, instead of surrendering and only try to be Best Of The Rest.
Upgraded from an older 18v kit. czcams.com/users/postUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv I independently chose the drill and impact tool, before I came across the kit.I like the 3 speed impact gun. It seems more powerful than my older one, and it can be set to be really gentle. The drill is more appropriately sized for my use. I used to have a hammer drill, but I did not like that it was so big and it was not a great hammer drill. I rather have a smaller drill like this, and then get a corded hammer drill for the odd case I need that.
You make good, reliable tests.
Follow your channel from Europe, thank you for indicating the torque in Nm as well 👍😉
Thanks guys for what you do you're awesome I'm on my way to go get the new 20 volt Atomic right now lol love it
I have the dcf890 3/8 just got the 921 1/2 and wow the difference in torque is awesome. No lug shall be spared.
Somehow I get the feeling this isn’t going to go unnoticed at Milwaukee lol
Can't wait for DeWalt high torque update
Really just want a new Mid-Torque with numbers like 650+. But with the new beans we've been seeing from DeWalt, we'll really take anything at this point! Edit: Just saw rumors and specs about a new DeWalt high torque, so now salivating about that.
@@TorqueTestChannel honestly. I loved their dcf903 (mid torque). But once the new milwaukee mid torque released. I switched to milwaukee. Now that dewalt is kicking with new 12v and 20v tools, might need to switch babe. For the last and final time haha
@@SnD340
It's good to have a 2nd impact wrench in case one of them breaks. My work has Dewalt and Milwaukee impact wrenches.
Like they say in the military,
"Two is one, one is none."
@@camryuser I always have multiple impacts impacts in various drive sizes and volts. But you are right
@@SnD340 You're never going to win swapping brands every time one puts out a 'better' new generation. Especially when the performance difference may not even be noticeable in use.
I got some DeWalt drill small impact with 2 batteries combo in 2015 the small impact couldn't remove tight car lug nuts but it was very convenient for everything else and really liked the lightweight feel. When I wanted a bigger tool, I wanted to get the Milwaukee since is the best high torque. But that would have been more expensive as I would also need a new battery family. I went with the DCF899 high torque which still has enough torque for most applications I will use, but it's a bit heavy glad to see new tools with competitive torque. Will probably end up getting the 921
Dewalt was running some awesome deals recently. I picked up the Drill and impact driver (DCD805 & DCF850) two batteries and charger kit for $279... Came with a free choice of power tool, so I picked the DCF921. Thanks TTC for making it easy to find the tools I wanted.
I've got one on the way! Thanks for the tip about the free 5Ah battery too!
I would still like to see the dcf890 just to see how far we are on real world beans now a days. Great vids by the always something new to see and learn.
TTI: Let's cripple Ridgid to make Milwaukee look better
SBD: LOL that's cute
Rigid is the buick grand national of impact wrenches
me, a modder: _heeheee this tool sings with hilti batteries_ 😁
@@Biaanca5036 Learn me your power Sensei... for I am a Poor and require multiple battery swaps in different tools lol Is there a FB group for that kind of stuff?
@@Jsims111 As a Buick guy, I totally get that.😆
Ridgid battery's are bad, the batteries go out for no reason, if you don't use them regularly...
Could you do some tests of different methods for using an impact? Pushing hard into the bolt vs just keeping it roughly on the head, holding to the side vs holding square on the bolt head
Bought the dcf921 because I run mostly dewalt batteries and I love when I get to bust it out. Dewalt beating Milwaukee is nice but that m12 stubby is nothing short of amazing. Something that small competing and beating it’s 18v variants; Milwaukee hit a home run with the stubby
I’ve found that usually the difference between the big 3 ( Milwaukee, Dewalt, and makita) they are usually similar enough it’s just a color preference
I’ve had my Dewalt dcf 923 for about a year now, and I absolutely love it.
Great work on these videos, I will say that there is no going back for DeWalt. They are only going to keep taking over for a very long time. They have leveled the playing field and then some at this point and they have a secret weapon dropping in a couple of months at the most that will really help them come back to the top where they should be.
Woo hoo, new Torque Test Channel video!
I'm waiting for DeWalt to come out with a right-angle cordless impact like Milwaukee and Kobalt have... Though, I will admit, that new Atomic in this video is quite appealing. I have the DCF899 and the 12v 3/8" impact unit (which while not real powerful, has proven to be very useful and I've still snapped a few bolts with).
I have the 1/2 inch dewalt
Mid torque an it is a beast for wat it is I absolutely love the thing but im like a kid in a candy store when it comes to battery tools i love them all an they all have their place have to say i am a dewalt fan for better or worse
So which compact impact drill can replace or is on par with the Milwaukee M18 big impact drill?
At work I've noticed when I started putting the bigger batteries from dewalt on my 1/4" impact it seemed like it hit harder and of corse lasts a lot longer than the smaller batteries like the ones your using! My boss has the big square ones that are 20v with 6amp hours and then the biggest ones they make are the big 20v flex volt batteries and they are 9 amp hours and right off the charger they can break stainless screws off halfway sunk! Pretty much as soon as it starts impacting the flex volt batteries bust stainless screws off....so if I was you I'd buy one of them 150-200$ batteries and use it for these tests because i honestly think you'll get better results with them!
Hey im looking at replacing an m12 3/8 stubby looking at either dewalt dvf 923 or 903 which would you choose ? Any advice appreciated thanks
I’m a Milwaukee guy, and someone came in and said I’ve got that newDewalt that’s killing your Milwaukee stubby…. Now what? I said…. Good now let’s go to work💯
Made up story 🤓
Have you guys considered probing the batteries for voltage at full charge and after run or two
Hey TTC!!! I request you test the 2235Ti and 189Thor (and maybe other air impacts?) on your dyno with their other power settings. (Aka turn the regulator dials down) Curious what those numbers are. Thanks for all your hard work and research for us techs!
Which battery would give the 921 more juice? An XR 5ah or a 3ah with the 21700 cells?
Does the 20v 1.5 ah battery for the dewalt give the same ft lbs in torque than the ones shown? (Not counting the power stack, since obviously they outperform the old batteries. If anyone could answer that'd be great. I haven't found any details about this anywhere it seems
DeWalt DCF901 vs new Atomic line; what are your thoughts?? Already own most of 12v line but would still need 5 amp hour battery if I bought the 901 bc I only own 3 amp batteries at the moment. Thanx in advance for the guidance....
Do you know if the dewalt numbers go up if you switch to flexvolt?
Have you had any issues with the dewalt 12v battery locks breaking? Ive had 3 of the atomic 12v battery locks break, they're just not holding up for me so I sold them to the pawn shop 🤷
@torque test channel I’m looking into getting the atomic to break a stubborn caliper bolt cause jerks at les Schwab way over torqued it
Dewalt has released a new battery the "Powerstack" line, i think only in 1.7ah atm but i believe they will increase capacities in the future. I Would be curious to see what these atomic series tools, or any of dewalts 20v line will do with these new very high amp output batteries!
what are the part numbers for the 3/8 versions of these impacts??
Great work man! Best regards from Poland! Wish we had better availability of dewalt new tools :) this small kidos are really cool. My dcf887 is amazing for small screews in car and even lug nuts!
We have a large and proud Polish immigrant community here in New Britain, CT, USA where SBD headquarters is located! I've lived here almost my whole life and grew up with people whose parents came over from Poland and worked at SBD, so I can't think of SBD without also thinking of Poland! It's a little funny to me to hear you don't get all the new tools over there
@@LowlyDegenerate Dcf850 cost for now is about 149$ for bare tool. So its a little expensive
I wonder to pair this 921 with power stack 1.7Ah to see if it gives extra punch
and smaller size
I wanted to buy a dcf894 but... i'm now waiting for this 921 in France. I hope it's not too long
I've always liked and own both Dewalt and Milwaukee.
Please do the Aircat 1057-TH, could be a contender for #1 spot.
Can you do the Worx Impact Driver. I really like their drill..
I would still like to see how the dcf890 does on the dyno even though it don’t post big numbers. If it’s possible, keep making these great vids I’m into a lot. 👍😁
pokes Milwaukee with a stick: cmon do SOMETHING
They still need to sell a 20v electric wrachet. Just bought a dcf894 mid torque in may...damn. I love it, but the smaller size of the new would make it a lot more useful. I guess next year i'll pick up the new one.
Have you done a video, (maybe just cut together footage) comparing all of DeWalts impact wrenches? I'm trying to decide if I should just sell my old 3/8 compact and 1/2 mid torque and replace both with this one
I'm a Milwaukee man myself, but I've gotta hand it to DeWalt on this one. I already own Milwaukee so I doubt I'll be buying these, but it's good to see that DeWalt is doing good. I love seeing competition. Though I hope Milwaukee fights back with a new more powerful compact soon.
I am also a Milwaukee man I run the meeting fuel and some of the M 12 platform but I’m tired of paying a premium for tools that are being outperformed.I hope they fight back lm brand loyal toMilwaukee but I’ll jump ship.
@@steffendetrick9403 upside is milwaukee warranty over most others 5 verse 3 years, I also enjoy the m12s sleek battery when doing automotive stuff can really get into tight spaces. I'm sure they'll come out with a new tool to compete. It's a constant battle but I prefer the no question warranty of Milwaukee, have had numerous tools just fully replaced and I beat them to death lol
@@Lee-lb9qh those are some nice Impacts. I don’t know what happened to their quarter inch atomic impact driver though it’s still getting smoked by five year old red technology.
@@Lee-lb9qh Yeah if I was a DeWalt guy and I used impact wrenches more than impact drivers I’d be happy to see Dewalt putting some effort back into their impacts. I do a lot of remodel, renovation and restoration work so I predominately use drivers.
@@Lee-lb9qh I know I’ve been in this business for over 22 years. The new atomic is a nice impact and your right it is only a few seconds slower then a model that’s been out for over five years. Milwaukee’s On the cusp of a GEN 4 that will be the real comparison comparing new technologies. Not Comparing new and old! They’re both good tools that will get the job done it really comes down to preference and durability.
Homedepot has a buy 2 batteries and charger for $199 and get a free tool, which you can pick this atomic impact wrench. Not bad.
Imagine a universe where B&D stuck with the ELU grey. I like Dewalt, but that yellow just drives me mad. I can’t flip through their catalog without psychological optic nerve games making me all frustrated for no reason.
You should do the Mac bl spec hex driver or the DeWalt XR driver!
Hate buttons on impact drivers. If you’ve got big hand you always change the mode when you pick it up.
At least I did on my Milwaukee one.
Trying this Dewalt now. See if it’s any better.
Makes me happy with my purchase of the 921
I really wanna see the 3/8 12 volt extreme brushless from lowes I got one for $99 came with bag 2 batteries charger and belt clip
I realized my dcf887 impact driver doesn't like the I push down hard on it, the anvil skips
Magnificent work!
I'll put that on my list for tools I can hopefully afford sometime in the next 3 years! Hahaha. Looks like I'm good to stick with 20V for large tools and M12 for my smaller mechanics tools.
I would just wait for a sale on either the mac tools truck or home depot. I have the DCF921 when I can't use my air tool and it works good takes lug nuts off from trucks I admit there's few times I gotta break out the Milwaukee but it does an amazing job
I own Milwaukee, makita, and metabo tools. Unless we get a new stubby in the next 12 months, looks like I'm getting another battery platform haha.
I think the dcf923b is gonna be calling my name once it’s released.
I've been looking at that atomic and their new battery. But then I have that aircat 1056-xl, I paid $99 CAD for it. Its small but it still doesn't have the power I need a lot of the times. The toughest nuts and bolts I deal with are suspension, brake anchor, motor mounts, crank pulley, and differential bolts. 90% of those I can get my IR2235 into those tight spots to remove. Hell my IR 2235 with a 1/2" - 3/8" universal swivel adapter will open nuts and bolts my aircat 1056-xl can't with just a straight socket on it. And then there is the speed of my IR2235. 2-3 hits from the hammer and it will loosen anything. When I need to do something simple like a tire rotation sometimes I don't even hear the hammer hit its already just spinning the lug all the way off. Even the Big Milwaukee/DeWalt 1/2" full size impacts are slower at spinning lug nuts off.
The main difference I have noticed between air and battery is that battery has lower rpm so they seem less powerfull
will the dewalt dcf921b take off lug nuts and axle nuts..?..
Have you tried testing the dcf903 12v.
Highly encourage all of you to write to your favorite tool brands and let them know what kind of tools you want, and want kind of performance you need. I've write servel times to dewalt to come out with tools similar to Milwaukee impacts. I'm a fan of both Milwaukee and dewalt tools. I think both are great, I'll be buying these as soon as I see them in store.
milwaukee guy here. sheeeeesh dewalt said yerrr hold deez!!! if you can get similar results with a 4ah dewalt then thats basically the kill shot. that m12 w/ 6.0 is just the best due size i think. this is deff some good competition. lets see if big red does anything about it.
We only have to wait a generation or two to see. That's the nice part about these tool wars.
I'd like to see a flexzilla impact gun tested. It's a compact impact gun that is sold as a kit with V-style fittings, a nice hose, and impact gun for $100 on sale sometimes. It hits pretty good imo, and I use it more often than my Aircat. I'd send it in for testing if your interested. They rate it at 800 ft-lbs "nut busting" torque :). Probably half that though
We got one, just hasn't fit into our schedule yet!
I bought the DCF921 three month ago and every time I use it I have to disconnect the battery to make it work next time
At some point... (akin to digital cameras and megapixels, etc) you've got enough torque for the job. Maybe not today, or next year, but at some point we'll want info on how long they last, can we get repair parts, battery life/cost per use, ability to control the thing, etc. But right now, torque is king.
Wont be sometime soon. Still need a high torque to do many jobs on a car. If we could use only a mid or heck only a compact that would be easy street. I dont see that happening within the next 10 years. If it does, we can retire happy knowing we helped you all get there!
@@TorqueTestChannel like electric cars, we're all waiting on that magical battery technology for sure
I just wish DeWalt had the same or similar battery base as the Milwaukee M12
I bought the dcf911 and it was good, I gave it to a freind who im sure ive drank at least $175 of his beer, and bought the 921. Just used it for the first time. Just lug nuts on a car, but it was noticeably faster than the 911. I never use the low setting on my dewalt high torque because its slow af, but the 1 setting on the 921 was still zippy and pretty much impossible to overtighten a customers wheel nuts. I mostly bought it to cage airbrakes when I'm towing a heavy truck because it fits in between the brake chamber and the suspension with an extra long 3/4 socket. The 911 worked great for that I'm sure the 921 will too
I found a deal on a 923 (that's a 3/8 version of the 921), online AD for $105; and a 1.7 powerstack w/charger for $69.
So then I'm looking for the 60lb ratchet, and stumbled on a combo deal, the 911 w/ the 12v ratchet, 2 batteries and charger for $138 at lowes.
What am I going to do?
Lower power 1/2 drive
Higher power 3/8 drive.
The 3/8 will loose torque via 1/2 adapter, so I'm thinking of a 3/8 socket set going up to 24mm. (milwaukee packout set).
Do I keep both, or what?
Wondering if there's any advantage to keeping the 911 1/2 drive for the sockets larger than 24mm, which will have to be in 1/2 size.
@@jbboozer6726 you can always use a 1/2-3/8 reducer, would lose an inch or so of compactness. To be honest I wish I had just kept the 911. The 921 is awsome but has failed to work a few times when I pulled the trigger. Lights come on but no spinny spinny. Take the battery off and wait a bit and it works again. Has happend maybe 7-8 times, and others have had the same problem. I'm still using it maybe once a week or so and still like it, but wonder if one day it'll die and not come back to life.
Back to the drawing board Milwaukee
Is the XR line dead? Did I miss something? Where's the new XR stuff!?
Nice alliteration.
Awesome work by Dewalt! Hard to beat the DCF901 deal at Lowe's right now though where you get a DCF901 for free after buying the compact drill and impact driver combo
For which kit? On my app it showed that you get a free circular saw
@@ThadrinC they give you a choice
@@ThadrinC use the website instead of the app to choose your free tool.
What kind of sockets are those?
Thanks for your work, you got a new sub.
Do you ever think you will test the Chinese knockoff batteries specifically the m12 batteries on the stubby
My advice for Milwaukee is big sales until your new line of better than Dewalt comes out! 😄
Considering how damn long it's taken big yellow, I don't think big red is all that bothered
The 12v line is so hilariously cute.
Look. Is big tool but small bat. Plz use.
Can you please get a Matco tools 16v stubby 3/8 impact
Anybody got news if a new m12 stubby is coming out ?
Does battery capacity affect torque?
Crazy how this new atomic impact is more than half the specs of Dewalts 1/2 high torque impact. Yet being substantially smaller. Makes me wonder when Dewalt actually does make another generation of the 1/2" impact; would it also beat Milwaukee? 🧐
rumors are it will come
@@dstblj5222 let’s hope I have patience for those rumors to come to fruition.
I'm late to this comment but since nobody else mentioned it. yes, their new one did. It's a beast.
I just ordered the 913b with 2x 5ah batts and charger for $199 in Amazon. Seems too good to pass up. Hopefully not too good to be true.
I was going to get the 12v but i really didnt want a new battery i have tons of 20v dewalt stuff and would just like to keep them, now that we have these my dreams have been answered
This.
Do you have angle grinder for dewalt? If you do which on? Cheers
@@abccde3832 I don't own one but I've used them and they worked great for me in the automotive field.
Nice tool,good for dewalt, but I cant put the yellow tool in my box!
I hear you there. I screwed up a few years ago when I started my own handyman business and bought all dewalt. I started to regret it a year ago when I noticed Milwaukee has a lot more cordless tools that I could use. Dewalt hasn’t failed me yet so I don’t have a reason to swap them out but it won’t take much for me to go ahead and make that purchase.
Bought a 921 for $125.....gotta shop around!
GREAT Vid as always!!
Have you tried maybe the Aeropro A301?
So for breaking bolts and changing tires the 911b would be a great tool right? Although it’s just simple tasks I still want a tool that’s more powerful just in case I need it for other tasks.
Yep. It will do 90% of what you need it for.
I didn't see 450 lbs did I miss something? Where are DeWalt getting there max brake away??
very nice, wish they would have released this a year+ ago before i got into the m12 line for the stubby. But hey, "no ragrets"
I thought that was “No Regerts”? Am I really arguing how to correctly misspell a word? Lol
I’m in the same boat... team yellow 20v stuff and m12 fuel stuff
@@TCPUDPATM haha i was referencing the "no ragrets" tattoo from the movie We're the Millers
Love the joke, sad to see not everyone gets the joke.
Dewalt really kicking up the game.
Red til dead 🤟🏼
@@miggythegreat 🤣 poor guy
Uh oh…honey, I know what I want for Christmas after the first rush at retail price drops…;)
My dcf921 will not work with my 8ah battery, anyone else have this problem? It works with the other batteries I have 2ah, 5ah, and power stack. The 8ah works in every other tool I have.
There might be something yellow in my box next week if I can find one.