Is This Filter Uncloggable? - Platypus Quickdraw Microfilter Review
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- Is the New Platypus Quickdraw Water Filter Uncloggable? For this Review I ran some extremely dirty water through the Platypus Quickdraw backpacking water filter to see if I could produce a clog and found some pretty surprising results. Not only that but the Quikcdraw has some really nice features, its ultralight, screws onto smart water bottles, Cnoc bags, sawyer bags, and anything with a 28mm thread size. It also has its own thread size compatible with Platypus reservoirs and bags (listed below.) It can be back flushed without any special tools, has a way to check its integrity after a freeze. And it doesn't cost very much at just $30 for the filter alone. All in all I really like this filter (and I'm not a big fan of squeeze filters). Check out my video to find out even more.
Platypus Quickdraw (With Squeeze Bag): geni.us/pAYGCK
Platypus Quickdraw (Filter only): geni.us/yw2KEhz
Katadyn BeFree: geni.us/dBTKz
Platypus Bags and Reservoirs compatible with the Quickdraw:
Platy Duolock Soft Bottle: no longer available
Platy 2L Bottle: geni.us/5kqw
Platy Hoser: geni.us/MU6JMro
Cnoc Vecto 2L Bag: geni.us/RmRsBLm
Platy Water Tank: geni.us/XpMZx
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Highlights from this video:
0:41 Fast Filtering
1:46 Versatility
2:25 Back flushing
3:09 Integrity Check
3:44 Price
3:57 Clogging
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What do you think of the new Platypus QuickDraw?
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Platypus Quickdraw (Filter only): geni.us/vMbtvv
Katadyn BeFree: geni.us/YyNCHt
Platypus Bags and Reservoirs compatible with the Quickdraw:
Platy Soft Bottle: geni.us/3RDNQ
Platy 2L Bottle: geni.us/qisWkYj
Platy Hoser: geni.us/xyXLAI
Cnoc Vecto 2L Bag: geni.us/pqLV
Platy Water Tank: geni.us/GY4Ae
I continue to be amazed that the only metric that people use is filter speed. Does anyone else wonder if any of these filters really continue to filter effectively over time??
Yes we do, but it's hard to measure with new, untested products popping up on the market all the time.
Time = money
Listen Glen, if your gonna get all technical then how are we going to get the mythical 10 blade razor? Its a physics certainty that the better shave is completely dependent on the number of blades the device carries. Its the same with filters....the better filter is the one with the best flow rate. I don't know how you're having a hard time with this. Science is real and flow rate is all that matters because its all about how little the impact of the "Great Outdoors" differs from your life at home. The closer to a sink tap flow rate the better the filter. So simple.
@@nedanother9382 wow. I never knew science could be so easy. You’ve opened my mind.
It does seem rather weird to rate filters pretty much only by speed, cos usually the easiest way to increase flow rate is to make the gaps it flows through wider, which decreases the effectiveness of the filtering. Of course convenience is nice but I'd rather have a slower filter than diarrhea.
Another high quality video. Thanks for sharing the experiment.
Wow I'm impressed with the filter. Thanks for the awesome videos. I think I'm going to have to try it out.
AWESOME review! Everything I wanted to know and a bunch I didn't know I wanted to know!
Thanks! I really like this filter. It’s quickly becoming my favorite.
On your recommendation, I switched from the regular Sawyer filter to the Quickdraw for my last 23 nights of backpacking, with excellent results. Many thanks for the care that you take in demonstrating the value of gear.
Every time this guy does a video I feel like he's giving me a serious heart-to-heart
Is that a good thing? Like a pleasant heart to heart or a lecture?
Thanks for the review. I bought this as a lighter option over my MSR MiniWorks. Looking forward to trying it.
I was thinking of the positive pressure when you get a seal between the spout and a receiving water bottle as a negative and had never thought of it as a pro for back flushing. Great info!
Same. It wasn’t till I read the instructions that I realized that was by design. All the videos out currently talk about “back flushing without a tool” but I couldn’t find a single one that explained how.
There won't be any poitive pressure if you put a piece of bended wire between filter and bottle, use brain a little bit
@@Temporalplace🤡
Just found your channel. Quality content,👌 great review
Very nice! I have used my Platypus Gravity Feed fir many years now. I’ll have to try this one out!
Excellent review! My friend has been talking up the new Platypus filter. I figured I should at least watch a review vid or two. Your vid hit all the important points. Cheers!
Thanks. It’s a great filter.
Nice solid review and demonstration
Thanks
I have been loyal to Swayer for the last several years. I’m convinced to give Platypus a try. I like that it’s compatible with a bladder. I too use the CNOC bags and love them. I’m
Old school. On backpacking trips I use a bladder for the trail and use a CNOC bag, filter and a Nalgene water bottle at camp. I realize it’s over kill. After hiking all day I want to drink water from a container. It’s difficult to use a bladder when eating dinner. I’ll give the platypus a try. Great video.
Thanks for this useful video👍🙏
Dude! Nice review! I think that would qualify as uncloggable under any reasonable use. Thank you!
Just bought one today, looking forward to using it at Sandwood Bay 🏴next week.
Super well presented. Just picked one of these up to test over the next several months. Happy with it so far!
Thanks! I’m super impressed with it! I’m not a big squeeze filter fan but this one is growing on me! Thanks for watching!
Nice review
I don’t know what it is about you but I love your videos
Great review. I just wanted to add that long term clogging of filters is due to the cementation of minerals inside the filter. Minerals are sucked in and trapped and when allowed to dry they harden together. This build-up cannot be removed by backwash etc. You need to go to chemicals like vinegar or CLR. Long term wet storage of filters is the answer in distilled water and a few drops of chlorine.
wait hold up. you mean to store it, long-term, submerged in the distilled, chlorinated water??
My Sawyer clogged from minerals. How do I use vinegar to unclog
@@robbystafford8273 hmmmm what about new filters? surely they were tested and the minerals moved around?? then dried? then bought and used and ruined huh im lost
I really appreciate this comment. I have been using the Sawyer since it was first released. I am on my third or fourth one, and drying after proper preparation for storage has not worked out well. I’m going to try your suggestion. Thank you so much!
I’ve been seeing more and more people talking about this filter (good things). I used to use a befree but it clogged after a few days on a trip. I replaced it several times with the same results. I switched to the sawyer and that had been fine but this seems much easier to filter the water and cleaning is much easier. Great video!
Thanks. Ive heard lots of people talk about the befree clogging. Seems like there is something that needs to get sorted out in their design.
Glad to have you drop in. I’ve watched a few of your videos. Great channel!
I wonder what the water was like that you were filtering. I've never had one clog - thought it did once but I just hadn't soaked it. I still have both filters going on like 5 seasons now. For the very first time I saw a noticeably slower flow after a cpl days. Just rinsed it in the water and everything was good. That said, the normally crystal clear Sierra water wasn't as clear since the floods of last month. Still haven't completely settled yet. Was your water clear or cloudy - seems weird.
Hi Stephen, I discovered your channel two weeks ago and watched a lot of your videos since. I like your channel and I am especially happy that you don’t use background music in your newer videos anymore. It is quite annoying ;-)
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Great point on speed being 'ease of passing water through the filter'!!! Never heard it from that perspective. All the other vids I've seen just focus on speed to filter a liter of water and I'm like, 'so what?'. Unless it's 10 mins vs. 1 min it's not that big of a deal if you're talking about a handful of seconds. I also really enjoyed a more in depth breakdown of this filter, being so new and all! Great job!
I’m the same way. Speed = so what. But most of my squeeze filter experience is with a Sawyer mini, and I work almost as hard to filter a liter of water through it at normal speed as I do with the QuickDraw trying to “speed filter”.
@@MyLifeOutdoors Wow that's great to know! I primarily use the Sawyer Mini as well. Great to see a little more versatility with this filter and their brand of bags. As always, top notch video delivery style!
I totally bought one!
With careful use and proper storage, my Quickdraw is down to 2L per minute. That is only after 10 liters of water filtered. 33% degradation in performance is not good, especially in such a short amount of time.
I can feel my BeFree getting jealous because this Platypus is looking pretty good...
Awesome video and sounds like some seriously thorough testing to me! Thanks for sharing!
Iv heard the be free will filter a liter in 12 secs. But Iv also heard they can get clogged to the point of no water flow. But who knows. Maybe the same thing will happen to this someday
@@MyLifeOutdoors ya, you are inspiring me to do some clog testing on my befree. It definitely filters fast, and I like that the filter is in the bottle rather than on top of it making it too heavy (if that makes sense) but I still like this platypus!
@@DoseofDirt Just come hike the Florida Trail in the spring to early summer time...I went though 2 BeFree filters in under 3 months.
@@ScottKent dang! Did you switch to a different filter? I’ve been rocking the sawyer squeeze lately and liking it.
@@DoseofDirt Yeah, I've had my Sawyer Squeeze with me as a backup/gravity system...glad I had it. By the way, there is a 3rd party prefilter available for the BeFree (like a little cover for the filter) only works with the .6 liter bottle, but I recommend it. Also, the trouble with the BeFree seems to be when the water gets low in the bottle and there is still sediment; unlike Sawyer the water doesn't have to travel all the way through the filter, it just enters the BeFree from the side near the outlet...and that lower section then seems to be where a clog will form. If you use the prefilter you can see how much more dirt there is caught the closer you get to the outlet.
thank you for this review. I need to replace my BeFree filter because there's a fair chance it suffered freeze damage but without a means to check, I cannot trust it. This review helped me reach a decision before a drive to REI.
I’m glad I could help. I really like this filter I hope you do too.
You can test the BeFree with this method: czcams.com/video/nlcYcuNh6T0/video.html
I would really like to see a clog test directly comparing the 1 liter BeFree to the 1 liter QuickDraw.
Interesting, I didn’t even know Platypus made a filter. I’ll check it out.
It’s pretty good, for a squeeze filter
Filtration speeds aside, the versatility and ease of backflushing is a huge sell!
Helpful video! I got back from backpacking trip and was wondering how to back flush the thing. Did the shaking and also back-flushing with smart water buttle but the fibers still have some black coloring in some spots on the clean side, I would presume it is normal…
Dude. What a great review. You have an editor, producer and all that stuff? Great production.
I am all three. Editor, producer, on screen “talent,” cinematographer and more. I’m glad you liked it. Thanks for watching
We have used the Sawyer for years. Last year, we acquired a BeFree...after three trips and several cleanings, the BeFree stopped filtering. This may just be a lemon filter, but I was very disappointed. My Quickdraw just arrived today. I'm looking forward to trying it on a section hike. Thanks for the great review.
Let us know what you think, i'd like to replace my old sawyer i for a 6 month cycling trip, can't stand the low flow rate for daily use in summer
@@cycloneranger5354 what type of Sawyer do you use?
Any updates on the Quickdraw after some use? How is the flow rate holding up?
So far, the Quickdraw is working as advertised. I haven't used it in heavily silted water yet. It's now my go to filter.
Hi Steven. here Giorgio from Italy. I follow you year sinca a year and I enjoy your precise analysis and irony. I purchased a quickdraw after this your review. I'm happy and I thank you. By the way, in Italian mountains usually the water is usually "clean" / without bacteria, etc. anyway, after watching US backpackers like you i started to use me too open fibers filters. So far so good. My general perplexity/question is about all open fiber based filters and FREEZING; you showed in this video how to verify the integrity of the filter. Pretty clear process...maybe nthe accuracy is subjective but it's for sure better than other filters that do not allow visual inspection. Agreed! But my doubt is: how can i prevent to freeze the filter in winter times (near/below 0 degree celsius) ? Ok I can put the filer inside the sleeping bag in the night, but how to do in daytimes? Ok you can reply me "Ehi just boil the water..." 🙂 Thanks
Yes. I would keep the filter in your sleeping bag at night. If you are worry about freezing during the day I would keep it in a jacket pocket or other pocket that is close to your body. As long as you aren’t freezing it shouldn’t either.
Why are you so good at equipment reviews?
☺️Natural talent I guess
Really enjoying your videos, man. Keep up the good work. Still waiting in that GRAYL review, I didn’t forget. No rush, just a reminder. I’m interested to hear what you think about the different style of filtration, especially since you say you aren’t a fan of squeeze filtration, and where you think GRAYL fits in the camp/hike community.
I have the GRAYL in hand and I’m working on the review. Might be awhile before I get it out. Iv got a trip planned next week with some filming planned, but because I’m going light I’m not taking GRAYL. That filming will probably make the bulk of my next several videos. But I bet I’ll get something out for GRAYL soon.
Oh. And thank you! Glad to have you here
Might have to pick one up. My befree shit the bed so time to try something different. For backup I just don't filter the water drink straight out of the side of the mountain. Great vid thanks
I hear that about be free all the time. There seems to be a real problem with them. Im loving my QuickDraw!
@@MyLifeOutdoors I've done some serious upgrades to my loadout the last year. As I'm Canadian a lot of the gear typically found In Americans gear load out is just to pricey for me. The naturehike cloud up 2 20d has served me vary well for the last 2 years. Ive upgraded to hammock for next season can't believe the comfort. Next I need a underquilt and new backpack. My old backpack is a woods pack which is a typical decent budget Canadian brand I've used since 2017. I'm upgrading to the osprey exos 58. unless you have another light weight option to try that's not 500$$ Canadian lol? The platypus is the filter I'm going with I think. But I can't do the water bladder I can always taste the plastic in any bladder type I've tried.
I'm still on the fence of what to get. The quickdraw design with the caps looks good VS the sawyer squeeze which has an exposed end when stored. But the quickdraw filters at 0.2 microns, double the sawyer (smaller is better here). I have the sawyer mini which is slower than this or the sawyer squeeze and I never found an extra 10 or so seconds to be a big deal when I'm out hiking. All these hollow fiber filters are fast tbh. So for me it's quickdraw for the caps that protect it or squeeze for the better filtration rating
Is it compatible with the Sawyer fast fill adapter - the one that is used to refill hydration bladder? Thanks
Can the Quickdraw be used for gravity filtration with two CNOC bags? Basically, can the Sawyer coupling be screwed onto the clean end so you can connect it to the clean CNOC bag?
I keep liking your reviews. Well thought out. What does the filter weigh?
2.2 oz for the filter alone. I think the bag is another ounce.
@@MyLifeOutdoors Thanks!
@@ShortGuysBetaWorks and thank you for watching.
I've bought two of these filters and both did not work. The first one filtered water with a flow rate of a few dribbles per squeeze. The second one I was unable to get any water to flow out of it. If you want a great forearm burning workout then I would recommend getting a Platypus Quickdraw. An 80 year old man with severe hypertrophy of the prostate gets a better flow rate!
I guess many people use a squeeze method, but I like a gravity method. I have my Sawyer set up to gravity filter.
QUESTION for anyone: Can I use this QuickDraw Filter in a gravity setup? Will the flow work and are the threads right?
I think the pore size is double the pore size of the sawyer squeeze maybe that s why its faster
I’d love to see someone compare these to the Survivor Filter, it seems a much better filter but none of the main camping/hiking CZcamsrs looks at it. Maybe they don’t do sponsorships?
This guy should get an award for pronouncing CNOC properly!
I’m glad you think so. But before you give me a ribbon I’ve said it every way possible in other videos.
@@MyLifeOutdoors lol. I think we all have. I finally looked it up on their website. It’s pretty counterintuitive.
@@aurtisanminer2827 yeah. Seems like bad marketing to pick a name no one knows how to pronounce
@@MyLifeOutdoors good thing they make a good water bag! Lol
Nice review! Interesting that you're able to backflush this and do the shake method. The BeFree you only do the shake method but the fibers are more open to be able to do that. A sign that that filter is compromised is that you blow into the drinking end of the filter. If you can't force air into it, then the filter should be safe to use. If you can blow air into it, then it's compromised. Do you know the difference in the Platypus technology for their hollow fibers that allow you backflush it?
Thanks. I was unaware you could integrity check the Be Free like that. It’s interesting because I can certainly force air into the QuickDraw so there is definitely some differences. Out of curiosity I did some research and found even Katadyn is confused on back flushing the Be Free. I found a photo of an early instruction manual that allowed back flushing with a faucet. But now people say it’s been removed. One person on BPL said they spoke to a Katadyn rep and they said you could squeeze back-flush the filter but shouldn’t use a water faucet as it can damage the filter. So who knows. I’d like to get my hands on a Be Free to see for myself. Probably should bite the bullet and add it to my filter collection.
@@MyLifeOutdoors BITE IT! I forget what kind of Hydrapak you have, but it'll integrate w/ the 42mm ones. The filter itself is only $25, so you don't neccesarily need to buy the bottle it comes with.
I used a brand new one on a hike, and the water ran through very slowly, basically just dripping even when pressed. We drank that water for 2 days, so it had to work constantly. It was ok I thought I just bought a crappy water filter. But now I found out it’s actually supposed to pour clean water. What could be the problem here?
Watched the whole video, but still don’t know what this filter filters
That intro is like if the mob did a platypus quickdraw review.
What about output water quality when filtering near mud? Have you tested that?
I didn’t do any measurable tests but I have drank the output water including near mud with heavy sediment and have had no ill side effects.
you should send out a sample of the water after some of your tests to see if it is still filtering out all the bad stuff and how much bacteria and bad stuff is still flowing out .
I hold a doctoral degree in youtube ghetto engineering and I can assure you that your test was scientific in every respect. The paperwork is en route. That does look like a nice filter. In that they're all basically the same - filters of this type - I use the Be Free and like how its performed, but I wonder when it will be that, in the hunt for the ultimate "flow rate" that a manufacturer will push the limit and stop protecting us. At some point we have to look at it like Jupiter Hikes and say "its just a cpl minutes, there are many more just like it" and stop trying to improve on a good thing.
Peace all
PS you might consider an anti-take a seat shirt....there are still non believers out here
You mean trailer trash🤣🤣🤣
Be Free has the exact same fail safe check 🤷♀️
something to consider- they don't sell replacements for the dirty water bag. fucking kind of annoying. i was treating some water and then i noticed there was a pinhole leak where the bag was heatwelded together. sent an email to customer service months ago and haven't heard back. I've tried using other platypus bags for the dirty water bag but they don't work as well, especially when scooping up water.
EDIT: Lol, according to documentation and other videos, you filter actually *FAILED* the integrity test. No continuous steam of air bubbles is supposed to come through!
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I just got the filter and tested it with tap water. Even after letting it soak over night and filtering about 8 litres of tap water, I couldn't get it fast than 45 seconds per litre (and that requires so much pressure that I'm almost in fear of popping the bag). Positive side note, though: Even after letting water sit in the water bag over night, it didn't taste anything like plastic. And the mouth piece cap is well made and has a propper hinge instead of just bending plastic until it breaks.
So here I am. Wondering if I should keep the filter or send it back as "broken" as it isn't even close to the advertised 3 litres per minute ("only" 1.33 litres per minute). But there's not really a lot of choice, is there? Sure, the Katadyne BeFree but if the bag breaks (which it eventually will), you are left stranded in the wild with a useless filter. That alone is reason enough not to buy it for me.
I definitely don't get the water output shown in 0:50. Interestingly the integrity test looks different for me than in 3:33... I can't push any air bubbles through. It just is a big blob of water for me. Not a single air bubble. And the instructions actually show a picture which says that there should not be any continuous stream of bubbles. So it actually looks to me, like your filter's integrity is broken!?
I am deciding between this and the sawyer squeeze. The Quickdraw has its benefits, but has a 1000L filter capacity, and the squeeze has 100x that. So how likely are you to go through 1000L?
How often do you go out? You could go out every day for a year and probably just begin to touch 1000L. If you went out one weekend every month and drank one gallon each day (which I only do if it’s desert hot) the filter would last 7 years. But I don’t work for Platypus, so if you like the Sawyer, by all means, get it.
I was thinking about this too but then again many people report the micro and somewhat also the mini clog up anyway long before 100.000 liter. Because of this I think I'll go for the QuickDraw. The bags by platypus are also stronger I think.
@@hschokker86 Bag that came with my QuickDraw sprung a bad leak where the hard plastic threaded section is welded onto the soft plastic bag portion. That was only after using it on one weekend trip and then on the 6th day of a week long trip. I was really shocked by that because I was not abusive with it or putting any unreasonable force on it. I filed a warranty claim with Platypus and got an auto response saying they were 3 to 4 months behind on fulfilling warranty service. Fortunately, the filter does have the dual thread setup allowing it to also mate with the standard thread bottles and bags out there. The filter itself has indeed been great so far.
Sounds like with a milk bag this would be uncloggable
I was really looking forward to getting my new quick draw but I'd have to say I'm a little disappointed with the flow rate😕. Between the Sawyer squeeze, the katadyn befree, and the Quick Draw the katadyn befree wins hands down as far as flow rate is concerned. I don't like spending a whole lot of time filtering my water.
Its very much cloggable by the manufacturer. Brand new mine has barely any flow.
TDS readings. .
Don't you mean cloggable? You want to find out if this filter can get clogged.
" Is This Filter Uncloggable? " To answer your question. Water filters are like anything else in this life. The two guarantees for our life time are Taxes and Death. The guarantee in a water filters life expectancy is eventually clogging at some point. When is the million dollar question. HINT ..... Usually at the most inconvenient time.
Sounds about right! Thanks
I don't care about speed in the woods. I've got nowhere to be.
Omg turn down that background music
FILTER FLOW RATE FUCK YEAAAA
pathetic
Platapus quick draw is a piece of shit. Mine does not even push water through. I'll go back to the sawyer anyday. It at least works. Total garbage