Can You Teach Yourself to DRAW and PAINT like the Old Masters without going to an Art Academy?

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  • čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
  • Today, we are going to talk about the "Atelier" approach and we are going to see how, if you can't join prestigious institutions like the Florence Academy of Arts, the Angel academy of Arts or the Grand Central Atelier in NY, you can at least be inspired by the teachings that are given there to practice at home. Obviously it can’t be the same but, as a self-taught artist, there is a lot to learn from how things are taught in Ateliers, because, ultimately, it is based on timeless principles that are available to anyone.
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    Drawing Course by Charles Bargue
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    00:00 Intro
    01:08 What is the atelier approach?
    03:18 How does one learn with it?
    04:27 As a self-taught Artist...
    06:20 Suggested progression
    08:33 Example of a self-taught progression
    12:32 The mindset of a self-taught artist
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    About me (bio) :
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    I am an artist living and working in France. I learned the techniques of the Atelier of the Nineteenth century and now I try to share some of my knowledge with the rest of the world, because I think that beauty still has an important role to play in artistic creation. I do mostly drawing and oil painting, and my goal is always to provide techniques, thoughts and explanations that can be useful to anyone, from beginners to more advanced artists.
    The material I use most of the time (not necessarily in this video) :
    Drawing
    Equipement
    ✓ Kneaded eraser
    ✓ Plumb line
    ✓ Small mirror
    ✓ An old synthetic brush
    ✓ Masking tape
    ✓ Cutter
    ✓ Sandpaper or sanding block
    ✓ Mahlstick or Hand rest (DIY)
    ✓ Level ruler
    Graphite
    ✓ Pencils 2H, HB and 2B
    Charcoal
    ✓ If available: Nitram charcoals (H, HB and B)
    ✓ Square charcoals
    ✓ Natural charcoal box
    Black and white chalk
    ✓ Sketch pencil Conté white
    ✓ Square Conté noir : HB and 2B
    ✓ Chalk or pencil holder
    ✓ Pencil sketch Conté Pierre noire : H and HB
    Sanguine
    ✓ Sketch pencil Conté : Blood and blood Medici
    ✓ Crayon Polychromos Faber-Castel : sanguine
    ✓ Sketch pencil Conté white
    Oil painting
    Palette
    (Extra-fine paint, recommended brands depending on availability: Lefranc Bourgeois, Winsor and Newton, Royal Talens Rembrandt)
    ✓ Titanium white PW6
    ✓ Yellow ochre PY42
    ✓ Burnt Sienna PR101 or PBr7
    ✓ Venetian red or English red PR101
    ✓ Permanent Alizarin crimson (Attention: do not use the traditional pigment, which is not very light-fast) PV19 or PR177 or Quinacridone Rose PV19
    ✓ Cobalt teal blue PG50
    ✓ French ultramarine blue PB29
    ✓ Raw umber PBr7
    ✓ Burnt umber PBr7
    ✓ Ivory Black PBk9
    Brushes
    ✓ About ten filbert hog bristle brushes sizes n° 4, 6, 8, 10 and 12
    ✓ Some flat brushes
    ✓ Round sable brush or round Kolinsky sable n° 4, 8, 10, 12 (from the size of the nail (about one inch) or synthetic imitation
    Medium
    ✓ Linseed stand oil
    ✓ Odourless mineral spirits
    ✓ Safflower oil
    Surface
    ✓ Linen canvas, fine grain universal coating
    ✓ For studies : Canson oil-acrylic oil paper Figueras
    Others
    ✓ Palette
    ✓ Foam and spalter brushes
    ✓ Palette knife in the shape of a water drop, no souldering
    ✓ A few small pots, containers, jars...
    ✓ Paper towels
    ***
    #art #painting #inspiration
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    Thanks for watching !

Komentáře • 221

  • @FlorentFargesarts
    @FlorentFargesarts  Před 2 lety +65

    Hey everyone, thanks for watching, remember to subscribe, if it's not already done, hit the notification bell and leave a thumbs-up. It helps the channel tremendously ! 😊👍🎨

    • @sofiav9933
      @sofiav9933 Před 2 lety +1

      what's the name of a book you mentioned?

    • @leenomar4367
      @leenomar4367 Před rokem

      hi Florent I have a question that I think No artist can answer it except you : How the the 18-19th century drew a huge details and body movements lights and darks without any mistakes and there were no camera how they catch the expressions for sometimes 14 body in the same canvas how ? plz answer this struggling question in my mind 💐🌸🌺

    • @creativebeing1
      @creativebeing1 Před rokem +2

      Impossible for self taught artist to reach the level of someone who has done an atelier? Your just speaking from a place of ego. I havent been oil painting long at all, and my skills and abilities have already surpassed the majority of professional artists who have attended schools and have surpassed most hyper realists artists also. I just hope that certain people are not discouraged by your ridiculous comments.

  • @chukukaogude5894
    @chukukaogude5894 Před 2 lety +134

    I took a similar approach through my digital art journey. I started in 2020 watching traditional artists on YT like yourself and others. I did not do undo, no layers, paint over the layers, use the color mixing pad rather than choosing it from a wheel, etc. In 2021, after 1 year I did a self-portrait and posted it on YT to show how far one can get doing digital painting. I thought it came out decent. I worked mostly on the weekends and about 1 hour on the weekdays. I don't devote as much time into it now as I am now building my other craft. However, I do devote my weekends to digital painting. I will probably post my progress every year on YT lol. I need art in my life. It does something for me that is irreplaceable. After 2022 is over, I will probably start learning about the software I use to make the digital art, I'll start playing around with lasso tools, layers, brush making, etc. I just wanted the first two years to be building a foundation of painting people and landscapes and both without using tools that would make it faster so if I hit a problem, I'll have the experience to fix it without depending on anything special.
    Also I should say I already learned how to make myself learn. So that made learning art easier. If I was 18 or early 20s, it probably would have taken me a bit longer to progress as fast. When I start something new like exercise, cleaning, playing a game, painting, etc. There are two things that I run into. I call it rust and friction.
    RUST
    Rust is that feeling of forgetting how to do things when one took a long break from it. So we have to clean off that rust off before we can start. We have to reconnect the brain back to those skills that are in our heads. I took a break from painting for 6 months and came back and it seemed like my skills regressed. Then I threw out that digital painting and started it over and it was the best damn painting I ever made. I realized it was because I lost the feel when I first started back up. Once I got back into it, my skills were all there. Now I warm up after long breaks before starting the real thing.
    FRICTION
    Friction is the feeling of starting something new. In nature, to overcome friction, we must put more force on the object to move it. Once moving, we don't have to put as much force into it to keep it moving. Every time I start learning something new, I am put off by it. I want to run and do something I already know how to do. Something safe. This is because those safe things we already pushed passed the friction and the ball is rolling. I tried reading a book and I couldn't read passed the hour. I said to myself "I just can't do this reading" and ran to go buy a new game. When I put this game in I was excited!! Then I got the same feeling as I got when I was reading the book. I had to learn the controls, learn the monsters movements, learn the strengths and weaknesses of the game. I HATED DOING THAT!!! but then once I pushed passed that, the game started to be fun....This is when I realized, this friction is for everything I've ever experienced.
    So I ran back to the book and stated reading it and learning from it. The first day, I read 1 hour, the second day I was on a roll and read 3 hours, the third day I read 2 hours, the 4th day I read 1.5 hours...So I decided then I will read about 2 hours of book time per day at the bare minimum. If I go over no problem. Just like that, I can sit down and am guaranteed to be able to read for 2 hours. That friction was gone.
    Now this is what worked for me and made me realize why I was procrastinating so damn much. I even took this to exercise. I found that the first 15 minutes my body wants to tell me to sit down and go watch TV, but after those 15 minutes are up, my body wants to finish the exercise and gets a burst of energy to do it. Although sometimes it does come AFTER the exercise is over.
    Usually to knock off the rust or push passed the friction, I devote one whole day to putting as much effort as possible into that subject. Then my dreams are flowing on and on about the subject. So when I wake up, I go straight to the subject the next day. Just know I do give myself breaks throughout the day and let some of that info soak in.
    The thing that keeps me going is knowing that cleaning off the rust and pushing against the friction will get me to do what I need to do to move forward every day. Even if I make little or no progress when I am actively cleaning the rust or pushing against the friction.
    For example, when I first started reading those books, I was like "what did I just read?" Sometimes I had to go back and double read. Took me one hour to read a page. However, once I got passed that friction, I breeze through the pages and don't need to go back.

  • @dawnbreaker1721
    @dawnbreaker1721 Před 2 lety +14

    I was self tought since i was little i used to watch a lot of cartoons and anime, Bob ross etc i always get my little note books and start to doodle and i used to envy a lot towards the pro artists which motivated me towards improving my craft even if i diagnosed with a condition even if i can't walk normally anymore it hasn't stop me in doing what i love🤓🤗

  • @everaced
    @everaced Před 2 lety +46

    To all my fellow art students, remember to have fun! If you take it too seriously and never draw subject matter that you want, you may fall into a stage of burnout. Iain McCaig said you can learn anything if you make it fun, and as a self-taught artist that changed the game for me. Also eliminating as many distractions from your life as possible to stay focused is huge.

    • @ELENAOttawa
      @ELENAOttawa Před 8 měsíci +2

      Not everyone cares about “fun”. It’s ok if art is treated as a job, especially for those of us considering to earn from it. Waiting for fun or muse is definitely NOT required. If it’s a hobby, have all the fun you want though 😂

    • @sashavonspakovsky311
      @sashavonspakovsky311 Před 7 měsíci

      Thank you for sharing!

  • @smellysock4260
    @smellysock4260 Před 2 lety +126

    I've been following this approach. Overall, been teaching myself to draw and paint for more than a year. The first year, graphite and charcoal only. Next came painting--monotone first, then I started adding color.
    I've been practicing from the Bargue plates . I also worked though the Kimon Nicolaedes book, Vilppu drawing manual, and learning an Anatomy for Artists book.
    I also force myself to paint en plein air. This is hard because people are always looking and taking photos and filming me, whether they ask me first or not.
    I'm still a beginner, but as luck would have it, people started buying my paintings. That gives me encouragement to continue. They're not a commercial style like those sold by the bouquinists here in Paris--no rainbow colored Eifel Towers painted in that Chinese sweat shop style--but people still buy them. This learning technique, what you just told us is helping me progress.
    I don't have formal training. All the art schools I looked at were teachign "modern art" nonfigurative styles. I went into another field.

    • @FlorentFargesarts
      @FlorentFargesarts  Před 2 lety +14

      That's awesome. Thanks for sharing your journey! Inspiring ✨🙏

    • @Althmash
      @Althmash Před 2 lety +1

      How did u sold your paintings though

    • @paulakhasho3763
      @paulakhasho3763 Před 2 lety +2

      Wow that is perfect bravo!

    • @smellysock4260
      @smellysock4260 Před 2 lety +7

      ​@@Althmash I paint outside and people see me painting. They stop and watch. When I finish something, they usually buy it. I usually sell something small every time I go out for a couple hours. Sometimes, they buy it off my easel. These are watercolors and I've sold a few oils like this too, but they are much more expensive and take longer. I also sell online and do commissions.
      People ask me to paint portraits, and if I could paint a good one fast enough, I would do it. I've sold a few portraits but not so many. It takes too long for it to be worth it. With the portraits, if they don't like it, they don't have to pay for it.
      That said, I'm a beginner, and my work is not nearly as good as Florent Farges's paintings--he is an expert. I haven't been paintting more than 2 years, and my paintings are full of amateur mistakes.
      What made the difference is painting every day, even for a little while, and it has to be something I like. I get bored with online tutorials and work books.

    • @thomasarmstrong7716
      @thomasarmstrong7716 Před 2 lety

      Wait what? I learned anatomy of animals and humans before anything, my school did realism, what are you talking about a lot of my fellow sculptors had formal training, that's how you eventually can do your own style you must master the basics, sorry bro keep doing your art I don't want to discouraged you, but every school teaches realistic art first

  • @flux1940
    @flux1940 Před 2 lety +12

    5:53 I think it is indeed very possible.
    There is so much insanely high quality courses, lectures, free toturials and art lessons from ACTUAL masters of the arts avialable on the net that with enough dedication, research and direction i think it might be comparable with one such programm.

    • @IgorFTL-y8i
      @IgorFTL-y8i Před 5 měsíci +1

      Frank cho is self-taught and he's better than 99.9% of the artists that went to art school.

  • @ericswires8534
    @ericswires8534 Před 2 lety +587

    Most self taught artists are getting undeserved positive feedback from well meaning friends and family who have no idea what they are talking about. You need to have a critical eye to recognize your own shortcomings

    • @FlorentFargesarts
      @FlorentFargesarts  Před 2 lety +95

      That's a real problem, I never showed my art as a self-taught artist, at first at least, people used to find it strange.

    • @FrilledMayfly_AmberlyFerrule
      @FrilledMayfly_AmberlyFerrule Před 2 lety +55

      That is exactly why I'm very critical of my own work. teachers, art or otherwise, would always say what I made was good and I always knew it wasn't so i started early on picking out what i could improve on

    • @ericswires8534
      @ericswires8534 Před 2 lety +6

      @@FrilledMayfly_AmberlyFerrule yes. I agree. I’ve been painting since 2010 and I still feel as though I’m always learning

    • @smellysock4260
      @smellysock4260 Před 2 lety +15

      I agree. One way around that, I think , is to work in public. Set up an easle in a public spot, and as 100s of people walk past you while you create your massterpiece, you will get a feel for what other people REALLY think. This is what I'm doing. I've been learning art for just over 2 years, and I've done most of my painting in front of strangers.

    • @ericswires8534
      @ericswires8534 Před 2 lety +16

      @@smellysock4260 you are more courageous than me. I like to work alone. I remember my painting professor standing behind me while I was working in class and it drove me nuts.

  • @sarahhill3073
    @sarahhill3073 Před 2 lety +17

    How wonderful to articulate this process. Part of being a self taught artist is working out what steps to take and in which order. I’ve wasted so much time looking at different approaches. Thanks a million.

    • @ELENAOttawa
      @ELENAOttawa Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah, I’m going back to basics. There’s no workaround. Great art can only be create with great skill and vision.

  • @jawad123kassem2
    @jawad123kassem2 Před 2 lety +1

    THANK YOU SO MUCHH!! you have inspired so many people and the art community is grateful that you're here. You're an amazing person

  • @alkorngrigA41
    @alkorngrigA41 Před 2 lety

    That is an inspirational video indeed! Thank you for sharing your vision and guidance!

  • @ivrogne7858
    @ivrogne7858 Před 2 lety +31

    this approach is actually what my art school did when i went for my BFA. Solid understanding of the fundamentals of all the mediums they offered then in future classes you use that foundation to create something new and develop your art

    • @ELENAOttawa
      @ELENAOttawa Před 8 měsíci

      Do you sell enough original artworks to make minimum wage in your country? Was your degree useful to EARN or just a fun hobby? Thank you in advance!

    • @ivrogne7858
      @ivrogne7858 Před 8 měsíci

      @ELENAOttawa it's a mix of both. Sometimes I make a good chunk of money sometimes I don't. Due to the economy, everyone kinda has to work multiple jobs. And one of mine is making art. Usually, one can make large sums doing markets, and those are big earners. Other ways are by taking commissions, which help. Making money with art at first is very inconsistent. You kinda gotta slowly build yourself up before you can make a living completely off it.

  • @FrilledMayfly_AmberlyFerrule

    This is a fantastic video! I started self teaching myself these methods and I've improved a lot in just a year. Little by little i'm getting better at representing forms. Last year I had done my first study of a statuette my grandparents have and a few months later on a visit i redrew the same statue from the same spot, the improvement was wild! A few months later and I've improved once again. Still have a very long way to go, but progress is still progress!

  • @lacunajhom
    @lacunajhom Před 2 lety +10

    Thank you for this video, really. If i'm going to re-start my art journey today is because of this video and in a few years i will return to to tell how important this video was for me.

  • @boyinblue.
    @boyinblue. Před 2 lety +11

    Just here to say that you can do a lot of things! I taught myself how to paint watercolor in under a year (back in 2019) then acrylic in a month. I taught my self how to paint backgrounds and foregrounds, how to light my fantasy/semi realistic forest scenes. All of that was done near the tail end of 2020 through to the beginning of 2021. I can learn to draw and paint any animal and if I do a few warm up drawings I can do some decent human portraits (though I prefer animals as they make me happy.)
    And I'm never motivated, I am a very depressive person. I'm actually coming out of a month long low, even through that time I was painting and selling commissions. All I did was find what type of art makes me happiest, with that in mind I did so much learning it's crazy. It's easy to fall into a comfort zone and trust me I did but when I started making myself do more interesting angles or use more colors I just got so much better. The art in my profile picture is actually mine, it helped me out with coming out of another one of those previously mentioned depressive lows. It was simple but pretty and it makes me happy, I can genuinely look at my own artwork and become happy which before I could never do.

  • @rogues737
    @rogues737 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for such a structured, straight forward and well made video.

  • @juliet6750
    @juliet6750 Před 2 lety

    You changed my life, I just want you to know, you changed it. And I am so glad and thankful that you are there at the exact time as I am. And I mean it in a way that we exist in the same timeline. But above it all, you are a masterpice and you will always be. Thank you

  • @damienkearns3654
    @damienkearns3654 Před 2 lety +4

    It's never been more possible. With the number of online courses and being able to order all the equipment and books delivered to your front door. And if you can't go to an Atelier, you can get Juliette Aristides beautiful books to teach you many wonderful things.

  • @jrsinsf
    @jrsinsf Před 2 lety

    Very inspirational... thanks for sharing your wisdom!!

  • @annekarts8451
    @annekarts8451 Před 2 lety +1

    This is an excellent and insightful video. Thanks so much for structuring the steps so well 👌🏼👍🏼❤️

  • @damfhokage4993
    @damfhokage4993 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow I just discovered your channel and I'm already in love :0 Subscribed!!
    Also, I'm self-taught (I mean, I learned how to draw thanks to Betty Edwards' books) and what I've noticed is that drawing everyday for 30 minutes or up to an hour if I have more time has significantly improved the quality of my drawings. It's all about practice and practice

  • @Travis-no3wh
    @Travis-no3wh Před 2 lety

    Incredible video. Informative direction for all of us beginners who discovered painting later in life. Thanks again for the content Mr. Farges.

  • @ladylele5536
    @ladylele5536 Před 2 lety +2

    You did really helped me with this video i was kinda struggling with practicing for 2 years cause it was randomly and i wanted an advice of how to organize the way of my practice
    And that's why i like your channel
    Thanks alot 🌟🙌

  • @JudeandherPencil
    @JudeandherPencil Před 2 lety

    ❤️🙌great video. Great idea! I very much like the progression model!

  • @sylvainst-pierre5224
    @sylvainst-pierre5224 Před rokem +1

    Magnifique ! Avoir eu ces étapes il y a 2 ans j'aurais sauvé du temps. Merci

  • @henriquejanuario881
    @henriquejanuario881 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video! I'd like to have watched this 15 years ago! Thanks for sharing!!!

  • @janemorrow6672
    @janemorrow6672 Před 2 lety

    This is extremely helpful thank you Florent.

  • @evolvevizdesignstudiobyend4712

    what great advice to share to other artists ...thank you Florent

  • @phylliswillis717
    @phylliswillis717 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for sharing this! I did go to art school 20 years ago, and teach k-5 art in a public Elementary school. I received two BFA degrees, but the art school I attended skipped over level one and two. We did drawing exercises, but not like this. I’ve been following this suggestion for a few years now, when I can. I have improved greatly. So this is a good idea, even if you went to art school, but didn’t get this kind of training. Thank you so much.

  • @shaonlisanyal
    @shaonlisanyal Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much sir...Thanks for being such a great and inspiring teacher to me.... It was so inspiring for me as a self taught art student..

  • @SarahAndBoston
    @SarahAndBoston Před 2 lety

    Excellent video, thank you!

  • @ArtBSP
    @ArtBSP Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for another great and helpful video Florent!! 😊

  • @manvi5234
    @manvi5234 Před 2 lety

    I feel like this is the most helpful art video i watched. I did not know where to start, i just drew humans. Painted them, did not really like how it looked, i learnt some basic anatomy thats it. From today ill be starting from the first step. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @cryzz0n
    @cryzz0n Před 2 lety

    Yes, that first step! I am trying to establish self-discipline and a daily determined work ethic. I need to get over this hump of feeling intimidated. There is a lot of work ahead. As you suggested, Florent, perhaps a diary would help me. Thank you so much for providing inspiration and concise guidance.

  • @corrupt1238
    @corrupt1238 Před 2 lety

    Terrific advise thank you

  • @florencew9983
    @florencew9983 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this!

  • @Mantina86
    @Mantina86 Před 2 lety

    Great tips, thank you so much :)

  • @edwardcrow6385
    @edwardcrow6385 Před 2 lety +4

    As someone else whose become a self taught artist, it becomes important to understand that this is much like working out. There are no shortcuts if you want your end result to come out the right way. It is a slow and gradual burn often over many years of practice and “learning” much like working out. You can’t just pump your arms every day and expect your legs to come out cut like diamonds. Same is true for artist, you can’t draw faces and eyes all day and then expect your feet and hand drawings to look just as good. This later escalates to drawing/painting clouds and skies. I’m an ocean away from becoming anything close to a master. But I’ll keep paddling along in my little boat until my arms stop working.

  • @JackDespero
    @JackDespero Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you for the video!

  • @reefinasser9189
    @reefinasser9189 Před 2 lety

    I can't give much like as I really liked this video.. Thank you so so much
    I was scattered, but I'll follow your way. Thank you so much

  • @susanwong6471
    @susanwong6471 Před 2 lety +6

    Great advice! I try to do one drawing and one painting project every week but it is challenging having a full time job too! Challenging but feasible ♥️- just do it !

    • @ELENAOttawa
      @ELENAOttawa Před 8 měsíci

      Try one per day. Ones a week will take you 7 times longer to master. Imagine learning art in 2 years. Or 14 years. Huge difference!

  • @PlopBrownie
    @PlopBrownie Před 2 lety +13

    Merci pour cette vidéo, vous me montrez que mon rêve est possible et rien que ça, ça me donne espoir :)

  • @ritual4734
    @ritual4734 Před 2 lety +15

    I wish my academy taught me with the Atelier method. I was getting really good at drawing, but then they made me work water color, pastel, ink, and etc. It was all too much and I was learning nothing through that and it only made me dread art.

    • @ELENAOttawa
      @ELENAOttawa Před 8 měsíci

      Do you sell enough original paintings to make a minimum wage in your country? Are you a real fine artist who actually paints for living?

  • @eleftheriageorgiadouart7156

    👏👏👏👏👏👏Thank you so much!!!

  • @haks4345
    @haks4345 Před rokem

    Merci pour ces précieux conseils

  • @crochetcraze4345
    @crochetcraze4345 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for sharing...

  • @user-cg1my3sc9f
    @user-cg1my3sc9f Před 2 lety

    thanks a lot for your sharing

  • @cynthiamarston2208
    @cynthiamarston2208 Před 2 lety +2

    I knew it would take years. I dont have years. Im doing portraits anyway from the get go. I did jump back to black and white. Likeness is my goal and to enjoy doing the work,

  • @hannomazzurana9809
    @hannomazzurana9809 Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you!💪

  • @rayglez2303
    @rayglez2303 Před 6 měsíci

    Muchas gracias Florent. Tengo 65 años. Tengo 7 años de haber empezado mi aprendizaje autodidacta. He ido desordenadamente, experimentando con acrílico (por lo económico), un poco de óleo(retratos, uff no ha Sido satisfactorio), después intenté acuarela, y últimamente pastel y charcoal.
    He realizado cuadros grandes (80 x 100 Cms) de inicio, sobre todo paisajes y animales.
    Con tu vídeo, veo que lo hice totalmente al contrario.
    Pero creo que en esta prueba y error he ido aprendiendo. La perseverancia es vital en el aprendizaje. Gracias y seguiré tus consejos.

  • @ercm2393
    @ercm2393 Před 2 lety

    Great video!!

  • @graphitesmiles9688
    @graphitesmiles9688 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you 🥰

  • @nobodyinteresting7280
    @nobodyinteresting7280 Před 2 lety

    Thank you so much!!!

  • @pauljerome01
    @pauljerome01 Před 2 lety +3

    Basic drafting skills, perspective and construction can go a very long way if you also follow the atelier method.

  • @sayitsjose
    @sayitsjose Před 2 lety +2

    Just spending time isn't a guarantee you'll improve your work. There are certain things you don't know that you don't know so when (not if) the opportunity appears, go to New York, Italy, Spain or some art club and find out those missing puzzle pieces of your knowledge. We fundamentally have the wrong idea about education and professionalism, that they somehow graduate into each other. They are not separate worlds. We are constantly learning from the inception of our career to the very end. Andrew Loomis once said that you can study the quality of a line until the end of your days. Our professionalism might make us only want to have well-polished artworks regardless of whether they are fundamentally sound. But this is unacceptable, that we set that as the standard. You try to look deeper, you try to push beyond where you were and that eventually is the spirit of the endeavor.
    I'm surprised the Barcelona Academy of Art was not mentioned here. Jordi Diaz Alamà and Xavi Denia are amazing teachers. They have lessons on CZcams taking you through from the block-in stage all the way to a finished painting portrait.

  • @CelestialxPanda
    @CelestialxPanda Před 2 lety

    Yes. That's how I learnt :)

  • @pilarserrano7693
    @pilarserrano7693 Před 4 měsíci

    Great video! Thank you for this kind of content.
    Do you know any ateliers in Paris?
    I also wonder...what about landscapes? And architecture? Are these aspects part of this kind of teaching?

  • @sketchartist1964
    @sketchartist1964 Před 8 měsíci

    It's also a good plan to visit art museums to get a close look at actual paintings. Take a sketchbook and make quick or detailed sketches of the things that catch your eye.

  • @ericratelet4678
    @ericratelet4678 Před 2 lety

    passionnant, très bien réalisées, une mine d'expériences, d'informations...un détail : les sous titres pourraient ils être en français ? un grand merci pour ces partages .

  • @scmacsart
    @scmacsart Před 2 lety

    I had a friend who was an advisor to Henry Kissenger on Vietnam he was also a very good painter who owned an art store.
    He used to tell me to not take instruction because I was doing abstract work and have my style and instruction would stifle me.
    He had instruction and it took a toll on his originality.
    He said he never sold a painting and I should just be satisfied with painting even if they didn't sell.
    Well my work has sold well because of prayer and a need to be unique in some way.

  • @Diveurn
    @Diveurn Před 2 lety

    Très utile merci

  • @ame6037
    @ame6037 Před 2 lety

    i completly agree with the atelier approch beause i awlays have the issus of my lack of techniques not being able to uphold my creativity

  • @omnesilere
    @omnesilere Před 2 lety +5

    training, practice, read, study, but most of all practice.

  • @amarin8600
    @amarin8600 Před 2 lety

    Watts Atelier is one of the best in the U.S. It’s based in San Diego and one of the most famous students is Stan Pronkopenko. He has his own online school and has artists of all type of genres teach, from digital to sculpture.

  • @RattaBagatta
    @RattaBagatta Před 2 lety

    A must watch for everyone who wants to start the art jurney, anyone at any age. Is it difficoult? Yes. It will take long time? Yes, but the satisfaction will increase day by day.

    • @FlorentFargesarts
      @FlorentFargesarts  Před 2 lety +1

      Couldn't agree more, years of inspiration in perspective ✨🎨❤

  • @Abuullah1
    @Abuullah1 Před 2 lety +1

    we need the book that you mentioned

  • @melanieaudet
    @melanieaudet Před rokem

    Thank you so much for putting this video together with all that great info on making a course progression to follow. It's exactly what I've been looking for. I do have some questions for you. When you studied and had your atelier schooling, how long did you spend copying a single Bargue plate? Was it for the duration of one class, or maybe for 1 hour? It would be great if you were able to provide some approximation to help me plan out my "classes" in more depth. Did you only do 1 copy per plate per class?

    • @hispanicshovel1485
      @hispanicshovel1485 Před rokem

      1 plate usually takes anywhere from 20-30 hours from what I’ve heard. In a semester at a regular atelier you’d usually do 1-2 Bargue and then two more in the upcoming semester

  • @allenvoss7977
    @allenvoss7977 Před 2 lety

    Great video ! I was wondering if you can do some videos on subjects like, what the Masters used ? brushes ? pallets ? frequency of work ? hours they spent on there pictures ? people like Sergeant Sorolla Rembrandt people like that ? Please and thank you !

  • @stevechmilar1215
    @stevechmilar1215 Před 7 měsíci

    As an autodidact artist deeply experienced with this subject, thank you for posing the question. From what I have heard from many others (in person and on youtube and podcasts), many ateliers are stuffy places where people take themselves unnecessarily seriously. Yes, I do believe a great deal can be learned there, but I am one of those people who is infinitely self-critical enough to provide my own goals and guidelines. Who can beat the price of free compared to what the schools charge? Does anyone know what they charge anyways? Besides that, it seems there are a lot of technical skills coming out of the ateliers - paintings of exercises, portraits, figures and anatomy over and over. I'm sure there are a few wealthy art collectors out there who support a few of these atelier graduates at the top of the game - buying figure study paintings - but the rest probably don't do well with sales unless they can apply their skills to the rest of the equation of making art for a living - the creative part - and to me, that is about 70% whereas the technical is the 30%. In a way, like many higher learning institutions, perhaps the ateliers have become an example of Goodhearts law: "When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure". If the measure is to make the greatest cast studies, then A+.

  • @jcepri
    @jcepri Před 2 lety

    What advice can you give to someone who is brand new to painting when it comes to going through canvases and panels? I really don't want to keep everything. Some are terrible. Can I reuse them? I tried that canvas paper pads and they are terrible. They buckle like crazy.

  • @bakedcreations8985
    @bakedcreations8985 Před 2 lety +1

    Observation of light is enough, you can learn the brush techniques by practicing.

  • @Someone-ym1ny
    @Someone-ym1ny Před 2 lety +6

    Thanks a ton for the breakdown on how to mimic the atelier style of learning! I’m still trying to solidify the fundamentals and my discipline in drawing daily, but I’ll be sure to mimic these to the best of my ability (^_^)

  • @VirusEquinox
    @VirusEquinox Před 2 lety +1

    Art is not a right or wrong thing... it’s the expression of emotions and being able to put your heart on a page, so you can do it anyway you want, someone in the world will like your work at some point and maybe a million will, you just have to start.

  • @martincrawford5173
    @martincrawford5173 Před rokem

    I paint in acrylics and I was wondering how to switch to oils. I want to go to school for the fine arts before I go through with it though.

  • @KaitoKaze
    @KaitoKaze Před 2 lety

    I never see anything as hard, instead taking it easy, I know there will be journey and will took time, but that how I approach anything I want to learn, because if you think something hard, sometime the thing will feel harder, also it will intimidate people that want to learn, so when people ask me if something "A" or "B" is hard? I just answer it really easy and proceed to give some simple example that easy to kickstarter that someone journey, but also give them general direction, step by step from easy to more advance stuff so they don't loose track and jump around thing that important.

  • @je4nette
    @je4nette Před 2 lety

    If you can't attend an atelier full-time, are there any recommended teachers or mentors online who can help and criticize your paintings?

  • @adambowman9340
    @adambowman9340 Před 2 lety +1

    What is the book you recommend in the video to copy from?

  • @MDK253
    @MDK253 Před 2 lety

    Hey can you steps to learn figure drawing ? When to start gestures, figure drawing, anatomy what to learn first or the sequence for it? Just like this video a video talking about figure drawing

  • @MichaelBrooksmsb400
    @MichaelBrooksmsb400 Před 2 lety

    I had 1 semester in Independent Study Art in my Junior year in High School...I did both Acrylics and Oils, the 2 big pieces I did, were 30"x40", both were entered into County Fair's Fine Arts, but rejected. One person was willing to pay the price on one of them that Summer before Senior year.....but dumb me, I did not let go of it....big mistake to learn from. The price I had on that piece was $450! Today, my brother paid me for lost paintings at $1000 each (2 large Paintings were lost). Both paintings were horizontal landscapes.

  • @durfdurffigan8680
    @durfdurffigan8680 Před 2 lety

    New Masters Academy/Glenn Vilppu’s or Steve Huston’s drawing manual

  • @WintersKnight546
    @WintersKnight546 Před 2 lety

    Where do you get those busts from?

  • @yeshapabari7865
    @yeshapabari7865 Před 5 měsíci

    Which is the book that you are mentioning?

  • @rebekamarin7348
    @rebekamarin7348 Před 2 lety

    What's the name of the book mentioned in the video?

  • @jimmyjazz1
    @jimmyjazz1 Před 2 lety

    Does anyone know where to purchase casts?

  • @GnaReffotsirk
    @GnaReffotsirk Před 2 lety

    I wish there are people who record themselves here on youtube that can be used for portraiture.

  • @Makai-
    @Makai- Před 2 lety

    Yes

  • @cynthia78carrasco
    @cynthia78carrasco Před 2 lety +3

    The horror of Russias attack on Ukraine... And all the other loss from my own life. It's so hard to break past the sadness. You're videos help to focus me on something else for a moment. Thank you.

  • @leroidethunes3913
    @leroidethunes3913 Před 2 lety

    the most important thing in my opinion to reach an excellent technique is to have the mindset of a scholar, when one studies the old masters from all around the world they'll find out most of them never stopped studying various topics, experimenting on improving techniches to represent what they wanted to represent etc, i do not believe a very structured and well rounded approach would do, rather, i'd say it's better to try different techniches, keep It sort of loose and pick some and discard others as one sees fit, learning in depth something one is not interested in only because, supossedly, painting is like a ladder and one has to go through all the steps is nonsensical and a waste of time, for example, many old masters had great skill at drawing or engraving but not at painting and vice versa and what each of them lacked didn't diminish them as artists or as great masters, painting and drawing methods are related but one does not necessarily have to be an expert on both, one has to be good at what one wants, nothing more, if that's actually the goal, It depends on what each artist is looking for, it'll do one little favor to learn all about Giotto or Stanzione's drawing and painting techniches if one's goal is to paint in the chinese southern school style or the japanese Kano school style, It all depends on the person in question, what i do believe is indispensable is knowing what one wants or a general direction in wich to direct one's efforts and putting those to good use

  • @helmutdanninger1510
    @helmutdanninger1510 Před 2 lety

    Due to health reasons it is impossible for me at the moment to study at an fine art academy. I am very sorry about that and i try to learn on my own. Of course there are a lot of Videos and tutorials. And they help sometimes. But there is no structure and most of the time no Feedback. In addition i learn best when someone is showing me in person how i can do this and that. And this motivates me then as well. I bought the tutorial of Florent. It is very good since there is a structure. Nevertheless i need more input in specific topics. The only structured tutorial i found in addition is the Old master academy online. But i am not totally convinced if i should buy it. Has someone experience or recommendations in addition? 🙏

  • @shuvoDhar.5537
    @shuvoDhar.5537 Před 6 měsíci

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @esoopthederp7672
    @esoopthederp7672 Před 2 lety

    What book was that? He called it bark plakes?

  • @Dusk425
    @Dusk425 Před 2 lety +1

    I have been drawing since I was little. I never went to any art school or had any art teacher.

  • @mizubiart6230
    @mizubiart6230 Před 8 měsíci

    go to museums. at least here in Europe, theyre free or cheap/affordable. spend hours there. You'll learn.. a lot. but first, learn to maipulate geometric shapes in perspective, and the core principles of light and shadow (think of shadows as shapes! in particular, the "line" that divides light from shadow is where the most dramatic texture happens, and the halftones).

    • @ELENAOttawa
      @ELENAOttawa Před 8 měsíci

      If a person does not practice deliberately and very regularly, the skill does not evolve. It’s the most fundamental thing. You can attend any ballet, but if you don’t actually practice in a studio - you’re never going to become a ballerina. Simple.

  • @diegoarmando4405
    @diegoarmando4405 Před 2 lety +2

    NO HABLO INGLES PERO QUE BUEN VIDEO

  • @allenvoss7977
    @allenvoss7977 Před 2 lety

    What is the frequency of time spent working in days and hours?

    • @FlorentFargesarts
      @FlorentFargesarts  Před 2 lety +5

      I use to work three hours every evening when I had a day job on the side. Ideally 6 hours a day when possible.

  • @rajithv
    @rajithv Před 2 lety +1

    What's the book mentioned at 8:45 ?

    • @reineressusbilla9162
      @reineressusbilla9162 Před 2 lety +1

      Charles Bargue, with the collaboration of Jean-Leon Gerome. Drawing Course; Gerald M. Ackerman. ACR Edition

  • @tuktuk6919
    @tuktuk6919 Před 2 lety

    yes I taught Oil classes and took people from stick people to selling paintings for over 500usd!

  • @d0n_265
    @d0n_265 Před 2 lety

    what would happen if you start from level 6 and master it....

  • @ZTRCTGuy
    @ZTRCTGuy Před 9 měsíci

    I'm self taught and have been doing art for about 3 years (digitally), my current body of work is about 230 drawings and paintings. I'm still tracing large parts of figures to get them right... My productivity atm is probably tragically insufficient if I want to reach any level within a reasonable amount of time.
    I don't have a single fiber of talent in my body so I'll have to compensate with hard work. Why does it have to be so difficult, so balls to the wall? I just cannot get myself to draw enough. Motivation is never enough, never enough discipline.

    • @ELENAOttawa
      @ELENAOttawa Před 8 měsíci

      Where is your portfolio? I’d love to see!

    • @ZTRCTGuy
      @ZTRCTGuy Před 8 měsíci

      @@ELENAOttawa Ah... I don't have one, I failed to mention this is a hobby of mine still, though I do want to do comms later.

  • @667hodge
    @667hodge Před 2 lety

    Nothing beating on the job training

  • @mademoisellemorris4589

    I did