D&D: Short Rest (feat. Mark Hulmes & Hat Films)
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- A wizard needs a break when he runs out of spells mid-battle.
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"I DID miss, though"
The biggest struggle of ranged magic
Rolled high damage still rolls low for hiting.
Part of why fireball is so overpowered.
@@isaaceshleman2833 o my, a saving throw so terrifying
@@connorschultz380 The spell was literally designed to be overpowered. It does an average of 28 damage to about 3 targets. These targets, barring unusual features or resistances, *WILL* take a combined total of 56ish damage. That’s a 3rd level spell. Other 3rd level spells give you such incredible power as: One skeleton. Or a 50% chance of disappearing at the end of your turn.
@@isaaceshleman2833 it's intentionally designed to be over powered, this has been said by the makers of dnd, it's overpoweredness is not related to it being a ranged attack, as you've pointed out you take damage wither you save or not, and the damage is high, as well as being area of effect
They have a rogue who din't bring any ranged weapon to the fight.. I don't think they have the right to blame the mage lol
Yeah the Rogue should have a bow or something :/
I had a rogue with a similar problem in one of my games. She stole the KO'd fighter's sword, threw it and killed the last remaining bad guy. It was pretty sweet!
#justD&Dthings
Well a rogue can throw daggers so no "no ranged weapon" excuse either. Actually you can throw just about anything!
To be fair, they were in right for 3 minutes which is 30 rounds.. And a quiver only holds up to 20 arrows, so she probably just ran out
Love the paladin and the rogue giving the wizard shit for being useless, while also being demonstrably useless.
100% accurate to a real D&D argument XD
@gillecroisd 92
Orc Barbarian: So if da rouge saw is comin, why didn't she hide? I mean she's kinda our main target now that we know the wizard is out of spells.
True. The rouge coulda sneak around the battleground.
@@J215J the rouge leaves the wizard get out of range so the paladin can fight close range. The rouge sneaks attack if able to.
*Fighter
When you get around to using those 80 scrolls you've been "saving" in Skyrim.
When you have quick loaded a section 50 times and remember that one fire/paralysis/ice scroll that you have had in your inventory since Bleak Falls barrow
You can use the scrolls? Just kidding, but I never use them. What if something worse shows up later?
I sell single use items.
i blow all of them on small enemies whenever i feel like it, i have so many
Te cal Something most definitely will and you will definitely not use the scroll on it.
Two magic missiles, eh? I see someone attended the Mugger's School of Offensive Magic.
Dezdanna See their Magic Mugging video. You'll get the reference.
Nah it's fine for killing off lowlevel/lowhealth mobs or against enemies with good elemental resistances
Dezdanna I think that was part of the joke originally, since Jeffrey was a really low-level mage.
Or he was a Warlock pretending to be a wizard.
a
Warlock
without
Eldritch Bolt
talk about wrong career choices
It's good for killing ghosts to atleast in 3.5 and pathfinder
This is the constant situation. ''I might need it later, so let's not use it yet.''
Literally me in every game, I hoard items.
It even goes beyond D&D. A worse example is the game Bloons Tower Defense 5 - in the mobile Version there's, of course, a daily login bonus. Those often are towers that can be regularly used in game. However, there's no option to not use them, which lead some of my more autistic friends to abandoning the game because they didn't want to waste them.
It's like having one's inventory full of assorted items commonly referred to as "random shit" and being unable to loot even more :/
I have done that a few times and eventually I thought fuck it and used them all at a boss and then it was no challenge whatsoever
That's something I experience in every game I play. If it is consumable... I'm not going to use it... ever.
I use to be that way but then i slowly realised if i never use consumables theres no point in having them in the first place. Not using them is like deleting them.Although i would still keep one items on reserve atleast.
fighter: I need a heal spell
cleric: I'm too far away, just use a healing potion
fighter: er, I don't have one
cleric: you picked up one 2 rooms ago
fighter: well, what if I need it later?
cleric: we are fighting the main enemy of this campaign
fighter: what about the next campaign?
cleric: your character won't be there if they don't heal themselves
fighter: that's what I have you for
cleric: I'm too far away and surrounded by all of his minions
fighter: I don't see how that's my problem
cleric: look, the point is I can't heal you now. just use your health potion
fighter: but I only have 24 of them
cleric: HOW MANY?
It's even better when you're taking a short rest before the final boss, so there's not even the excuse of it using up a turn.
Or better yet, not spending hit dice because you might need them later that day. As if some new threat is going to appear out of nowhere and attack them, but is going to give them time for a short rest.
Why don't YOU have healing word though?
@@AllCanadiaReject
what part of "I'm too far away" and "surrounded by all his minions" needs more clarification?
@@thekenyonsquad5672 healing word is a verbal bonus action. In other words surrounded doesn't really matter. But the cleric probably only took cure wounds 'because it heals more damage'
@@andrewenderfrost8161
I refer you to my second comment in this chain.
"...I _did_ miss, though."
That's what always happens to me. I have this one thing that could save us all or leave us almost defenseless, and of course it fails. I think I need to get more loyal dice.
I once killed a dragon by throwing my bow at her, just after our last desperate attempt with a one-use magic item failed.
There's ALWAYS one more thing to do.
If the DM is nice enough. Or tired. Or you promised more cookies.
Timothy McLean I gave my players an artifact (it's a Gravitational Beam Emmiter from Blame! but they don't know that) able to emit a ray of destruction which cannot be stopped by any material for 70 km. It has 8 uses. They shot three at minor enemy and missed ALL OF THEM.
or like The Cynical brit would have said ''if your intire strategy boiled down to a single move either giveing you victory or death...maby its not the roll's fault..but your tactics''
I accidentally destroyed an enemy fleet once in the Warhammer 40K TTRPG by failing a piloting roll when trying to sneak past the fleet. My final destination was the inside of the star in the solar system the fleet was gathering to glass the planet the rest of the party was on. My GM decided to give me a 1 in 100 chance to die like a hero and not die like the moron I was. I chose 42 and rolled a d%, I got a 42. Warped into the suns core, destabilizing the balance between the gravity of the star and the outward force caused by the fission occurring in the core. The star went supernova. Good times, good times.
Than Descent second ed is your game... the X on te blue die XD
Strangely enough, the situation does not get better once you find duplicates of a powerful single-use item.
Yeah. One Deck of Many Things, the game could break. Two Decks, your friendships could break.
I think that he was more referring to the fact that having multiple Scorching Ray scrolls would not have helped the matter because he still has to spend the time to use each one, and that gives the enemies plenty of time to run up and cast FIST!
ivaldi13 noo, he means that having multiple of the same powerful items he would still not use it and save it as much as possible.
Oh, that's true too.
ivaldi13
Ah, a scholar of the world's greatest orc wizard, I see.
Next you could cast the Sword spell, with somatic and material components of a blade.
Or Magic Missile, with the material component of a rock and the somatic component of throwing said rock.
After that though, no more spell slots I'm afraid. Sorry, Party.
I liked how Kyle and the others are in the rain and when the camera pans to the enemies it's all bright and sunny XD
jarejare3 It happens.
Reminds me of that Married With... Children episode.
Once. It rained in my front yard but not my back yard
Budget
jarejare3
Nope, it’s still raining. It’s just more noticeable with the players because they’re in the shadows and the rain is dripping down from the bushes. And it’s brighter with the “Orcs” because they’re behind thinner cover, and also higher ground or something.
"I did miss, though"
See, as a Paladin player, I have the opposite problem: by the time it's my turn in initiative, all the enemies are already dead.
Your DM isn't making encounters hard enough, sounds like
That or you're playing with like 20 other people.
Why do we always take Dex as our dump stat?! It's always very frustrating, especially when there is another member in the party who gets +10 to initiative (I'm not exaggerating).
Pat Best It is not always the DMs fault. Calm your dickheadnes.
Sweet overlooked Paladin dexterity...
As a sorcerer named Antonio Rodriguez with shitty initiative I feel your pain.
Very true. The most surprising aspect of Orcs is that they are very accomodating with regards to the personal health and wellbeing of their opponents.
High Priest of Those Who Remain especially when they are the hats
No fun if you just win you know
That's British for ya 🇬🇧 xD
Meanwhile, in japanese version...
Not in middle earth they just want to eat you and kill you without mercy
Oh hell yeah, hat films and door monster? I am in
yeah, i didn't see that coming! :)
Joshua Burnett Right?!?
This is a really good combination between the D & D and comedic work of Door Monster, the fun skits and overall funny personalities of Hatfilms, and the D & D personality of Mark Hulmes this really gives a funny, yet immersive feel when watched.
I always forget that they're called hat films for a reason.
And now you have satan number of likes
Holy shit this was not a colab I was expecting. 10/10
I mean they did announce it like two weeks ago
+Brian Duffy Some people do not keep up with updates.
I was also caught by surprise.
You can't get those magic mugging references past me! I SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOUR TRICKS!!!
I missed it when was it?
Kask Daxxe It's the part about two magic missiles. Not sure if it is a reference.
Door Monster and Hat Films in one video? This is amazing
Connor V Perfect
man Mark NAILED the Door Monster Humor there! 0:51
That's just normal Mark, if his Civ attitude is anything to go by.
That's it.
*That's it* is going to be my notification sound one day.
It is generally considered good practice in battle to maintain a reserve to be deployed at the critical moment, and strategic reserves for later in the campaign. Judging whether a resource is needed now against the risks that can arise if still depleted at a later point is a skill that takes a long time to hone. The mark of a great strategist is knowing just how and when to deploy their forces, and it has made the difference not only in role playing games and board games like chess, but also on the field of battle and in a full scale war.
Which is why the best move under these circumstances, is to simply sacrifice the fool as a distraction :)
Or since they were resting, they could of just ran away hehe. An hour head start!
Good job sounding intelligent saying a thing that should be blatantly obvious to anyone who relates to the rational of the mage. Which is literally anyone who has played an RPG of any description.
That sir, was the joke.
Was it a satire of something? Because if its a satire I'm clearly missing it.
The joke is that careful planning and resource management is key to victory, but no one actually plays like that. Instead people just blindly charge at stuff, or in this case you just toss the mage away as a distraction and then run or something.
It's okay Kyle give him a few minutes they will be looking for who ate all the babies. You can attack them then.
"If you wanna rest, sunshine, 'ave a rest." haha I love it when Ross calls people Sunshine.
Me as a Dm "in my mind": JUST THROW ROCKS AT THEN.
My players: We could try summon our god or the demon lord...
Holy shit, is that Hat Films? The boiks are in door monster now? SWEET!
holy shit it is! I didn't even realise till I saw your comment.
Don’t forget the mage was Mark Hulmes
It was just a one-off since door monster was in the UK, and Hulmes roped the hat boiks in :)
i thought turps was the mage
MrBisk // turps 2.0
HOLYYYY SHIIIIIT! Hats/Yogs and Door Monster collab?! Someone tell me I'm not dreaming wtf.......
Also, wow, you guys flew out to their office? That's so cool, I'm jealous af.
"We've only been fighting for 3 minutes."
Man.... that's 18 rounds...
I can see how it's been hours
*rolls 5 20s at the merchants to haggle for 5 copperpieces*
*rolls another 5 20s at the goblins that are of no real threat*
*rolls another three 20s to convince the bandits (also no threat) to come willingly because it would be more convineant*
*only rolls 1s against the endboss, burning your companions instead of him*
Well... fate has decided. I'm officially now a badguy :D
@gillecroisd 92 a friendly FIRE enthusiast... i see what you did there
Wow congrats on the collab it must be so weird after being fans of theirs for so long
That's what I love about Wizards:
One day I'll be able to do shit like Power Word Kill or Incendiary Cloud. Meanwhile the Fighter and the Paladin look at each other and shuckle before saying _"One day being the operative word"_
You got to work with the yogscast! I'm so jealous.
Jacob Brown >implying that the hatfilms are yogscast
This is how you start wars
Pyro Paragon, well they technically are... Mark too... They are all part of the Yogscast and content producers for it. You can look it right up on the Yogscast wiki.
If you do not consider them part of the Yogscast then who is?
TrollFaceTheMan It's an old joke referencing the Hatfilms and Yog rivalry from years ago
Pyro Paragon oh okay, my bad.
TrollFaceTheMan no problem
Amazing how the orcs where shooting at them with arrows without bows 😂🤣
3 minutes of combat in dnd is actually hours irl.
Mark the best DM
I personally reserve that slot for Matthew Mercer, but Mark is a close second
Griffin McElroy?
1. Matt Mercer
2. Griffin / Mark (I cant decide)
That wizard is definitely Ricky Gervais' son. Can't unsee/hear
I feel like this is how Mark sees the others in High Rollers.
Always great to see Turps 2.0 in more content, Hat Films too.
"I thought this would be more roleplay heavy" That's me every time
None of this is the wizard's fault. That none of the other fighters decided to bring a shortbow astounds me, that they hedged their bets on a spell that might fail irritates me and the fact that the wizard secured a potential solution to the problem which they ignored angers me.
He could have transcribed that spell into his spellbook later! But, NO, one person is at fault for everything.
which is funny considering the occasional arrows
Yeah, wanna talk about useless, how about that obviously low charisma paladin when paladins are charisma based! Or how about the rogue who appears to be using a longsword which is a strength based weapon when rogues are clearly dexterity based! Maybe if you hadn't dumped your dex you could be steathing around for that sweet sneak attack damage, or if you do have a decent dex, why don't you have at least ONE dagger that you can THROW. This was not at all the wizard's fault, the other players obviously fumbled the encounter to the point where the episode began, and then put unreasonable expectations on the wizard to get them out of the problem the caused. (Also if you're playing with moral, the orcs probably would have run in the situation of needing a rest, not all creatures fight to the death after all.)
I've seen a few good Strength based rogues. Flanking sneak attack with a Greatsword. But yea, that Pally is kinda bad.
While these are all good points, I can't ignore the Wizard's poor choice in Cantrips. You _never_ go on adventures as a dedicated caster without some attack option to fall back on. No Fire Bolt? No Ray of Frost? No Acid Splash? Not even a Poison Mist or Shocking Grasp?
Even in a social-focused game, you never know when things will come to blows.
While I understand where you're coming from here, there are a couple reasons why someone would ignore that, first of all being if it's their first time playing. If they've never played before, you can't really blame them for making sub-optimal characters, they just don't know that it's sub-optimal. The other reason is the exact opposite: they've played a lot of D&D and they are purposefully making a sub-optimal character for the sake of roleplay. This seems to be the case here, as he said he was going for a bar-magician style and that he thought that this game would be more roleplay heavy. Is it a terrible strategic decision? Yes. But that's kind of the whole point. Players have a bad habit of optimizing only for combat, however, that is only one of the three pillars of the game, and deciding to ignore that and go in a completely different direction can be a very strong roleplaying decision.
That all being said, he probably should have discussed that with the other players before-hand so they didn't peg all their hopes and dreams on him getting them out of tight spots.
Darn u 99% hit chance
That's XCOM
95%
Or when the enemy gets a 1% critical hit in fire emblem
Mathew Smith do u mean restarting the game each time that happen
More like 10% percent in a real fight.
No way the wizard isn’t actually a warlock, only has two spell slots, a ton of cantrips, AND gets slots back on a short rest!? Case cracked
"I'll renounce him. i'll fall. I don't care." I love how Kyle delivers his lines.
okay but the funniest line is "what is the point, of you?"
That ending was perfect
is anyone else impressed by how many arrows hat films can fire from two knives and a hammer?
HOLY SHIT IT'S MARK
MAAAAARK
HOLY SHIT IT'S THE HATBOIS
Why burn spell slots and consumable scrolls, when you've got dem sweet minor illusions?
Step 1: Shout to orcs that you have been gravely injured by a stray arrow and you are carrying all your expensive loot
Step 2: Cast an illusion of your party fallen between the trees
Step 3: Wait for orcs to come over... then backstab, normal stab and scorching ray.
Step 4: Profit
Step 5: Short rest
Would that be a minor illusion?
No.
If he's getting his spells back on a short rest he must be a warlock. Now I really enjoy the idea of a warlock who made a pact to be a party magician
Not if he is using Arcane recovery.
Someone's gone and eaten all the babies!
Somebody's stolen da babies!
This video was great! Great acting, costumes, location, special effects, writing, everything was fantastic! Nice job!
".. I did miss though"
This has to be one of the funniest lines - was totally unexpected. :)
Man turps and hat films in one video
You’re a rogue that doesn’t have a hand crossbow? I feel like the wizard is not the failure here for being the only ranged fighter.
Or a wizard without one. It’s part of his default gear too. I guess he could have swapped it for gold though.
The way I see it, every party member should have at least one means of ranged combat, even if it's just a sling or something.
secretly the swordsman had a spell himself. dont ask why.
Eldritch Knight son.
Paladin
The rogue also had a few spells.
lol true
Nah, they're level 1. Paladins don't get spells at level 1 in any edition I know of.
I absolutely loved this one. I've been a fan of Mark Hulmes and his dnd show for over a year and i've watched your DND episodes many times, and seeing them combined was Insanely fun. Please do more of those.
I have a confession to make. Majority of the games you do videos of, I don't play, a lot of times never heard of. However, your content is so good that I binge watch all of it and then rewatch it.
Keep up the awesome work. If anyone says CZcams is a waste of time, I just direct them to your channel to change their mind.
First look: is that... Mark?
Reads title: it's Mark and hatfilms!!??? In a door monster video!!!!! :00000
3 minutes is 30 rounds in 5e which is quite long for combat
HAH nope
Defenatly when they are lvl 1. I mean the Wizard can get oneshotted if an enemy crits
This was amazing, thank you so much, all your D&D stuff is always great!
Back when I was playing a cleric, one of my favorite spells to use was scorching ray, and you had the right amount of targets for it too. So that's how I knew the moment you mentioned it, it would miss. Excellent video!
When the DM is feeling generous.. "Hey, you guys talking about taking a rest?"
You just made my day! Thank you door monster!
Its fantastic to see you working with people as big as hat films you guys are doing great and I'm glad to see it. I look forward to see you guys grow even more and do more awesome colabs like this.
These D&D skits are my favorite content from you guys. They're so hilarious and accurate when it comes to the crazy stuff that can happen in RP groups. Especially this one! Thank you for all the hard work making this - I've been recovering from flu right now and this just brightened my day.
"We've been fighting for 3 hours"
"It's been 3 minutes"
I felt that
*He ate the babies*
Hmm, I got seafood...
My favourite sketch channel and my favourite channel in general working together, actual bliss.
I just found you guys two weeks ago and have practically binged all of you videos! Forgive me for not finding you guys sooner you guys are amazing!
And I did not ever believe my two favorite parts of youtube would come together
HATFILMS BOIKS!!!
Christian Munroe hatfilms suck
@@charliekim9344 you swallow
The way they talk about it, it sounds like scorching ray, but the aestetic makes it look like something like Agnazzar's Scorcher
Fantastic video! Love the collab with Hat Films and Mark Hulmes
Always take firebolt.
Also, always have at least one party member with high charisma.
Also, could they not have just avoided that fight?
Sean Murphy as a lore bard I take Poison spray for those D12 and Eldritch blast for those d10 that no one can resist, name a creature than is resistant to Force damage
Well... Nowdays we take toll the dead :P
@@pyroparagon8945 wraiths I think?
Also he's a PALADIN. he SHOULD have high cha
Wtf all of my favourite people at once?
I LOVE THIS MASHUP SOOOO MUCH!!! I've been watching both hat films and Door monster for 5+ years.....the reveal was great too
Love these D&D videos, keep it up!
Mark is so great XD
Heather Anne yea Turps is so amazing ;)
Best thing about this video: Kyle's hair.
I leave you to your own conclusions about the amount of screen time for some people.
Oh my goodness I’ve been watching High Rollers for around three years and I always wondered how I found them when I wasn’t interested in DND at all, and this must’ve been it, I remember watching you guys and I’m glad I found you again, thanks for the countless minutes of entertainment :)
This worked out really well guys, turns out both your styles fit together well, would love to see more like this the hat crew and mark are cool people
Yogscast meets doormonster :o
Was actually just watching your pathfinder stream
This was great! So awesome two of my favourite channels got together and made some videos!
I absolutely love that you filmed with hat films and mark. The first thing I thought of is how in a few earlier videos you had hat films stuff. That's pretty awesome
Yes, Hat Films!!!!
That is what I feel like every time I play a Wizard! hehe
You don't take a single attack Cantrip? Why?
Bluecho4 cause he thought the campaign was gonna be role play heavy.
So awesome they got Tomska in the video!
He looks skinnier than I remember tho
I was wondering what you guys were doing in london. Now I know you guys were making a sketch with hat film and the DM that got me into d&d (high rollers was my first exposure to the game) this was everything I could have hoped for. Well done guys.
"I only have prestidigitation" cant that be used for generating a small object anywhere? With no limits aside from size and duration?
Trent Lindsey yes
Yeah, he could have tried a distraction while they were hidden, to get the orcs looking somewhere else or something.
The paladin is a lying bully the rogue is either incompetent or (more likely) doesn't want her hands dirty. The mage succeed on diplomancy and was totally right all along. Let the dude with Max Int make the plans goddammit!
This is awsome been wathcing both you guys and hafilms for years. This is kinda crazy
these are so well done!
OMG I LOVED this! XD
wow. passive aggressive combat
I'm not a tabletop gamer, but this does bring me back to the first Baldur's Gate. I used to wander off into the wilderness and get into battles that I was woefully underprepared for (usually Iron Throne mercenaries sent to kill me). Rather than come back and face the enemies once I was closer to their level like I was supposed to, I used to pick one off with ranged weapons and spells, retreat, rest anywhere between 8 and 48 hours depending on how injured my party was, go back and pick another one off, rinse & repeat until the job was done. The enemies were usually good enough to sit around and wait for my next attack rather than walk 100 feet to where we were camped and murder us in our sleep.
Love your videos. Especially the ones about D&D. :)
I was staring at the screen for 5 seconds and it jumped 800 views.
And please do forts.
Why do the Paladin and rogue not have ranged weapons? My groups rogues always have a ranged option, and my Paladin, despite having given his bow to the more capable archer oracle Paladin, still carries javelins and lightning javelins. Failure to carry a ranged weapon for emergencies is a player failure.
If they had no ranged weapon and DM knew that, it's either a structured challenge that the DM intended to be tough for that very reason, or the DM is lazy. Hands on the wheel, people!
Or, they ran out of ammo?
@@KasumiRINA That still isn't the wizard's fault. A lv. 1 wizard only has two spellslots, so naturally, he'll blow through them quickly. However, a rogue gets 20 free arrows if she chooses the ranged option (which she SHOULD), and two daggers she can throw, while the paladin gets 10 javelins. If they managed to blow through so much ammunition, they have no reason to blame the mage.
Not to mention that 2 Magic Missile deal a grand max of 30 damage, and a minimum of 12 damage. He should at least have been able to seriously wound one orc, possibly kill two. Unless the battle was heavily out of balance, that means the rogue and paladin hasn't done jack shit for the entire battle.
"I thought it was gonna be more role play heavy"
Me at the start of every campaign
Been a yogscast fan for years and came across door monster just before it was door monster. This is such a beautiful mesh of the two. Congrats on your collaboration!
Allison Edge Meter: 3
The threat of death to the other person was made significantly less edgy by the sheer annoyance of that person.
What can I say? If someone was less annoying you'd be edgier.
Ah, but you are forgetting one key feature. All good rogue's have a short bow with them, so as to exploit sneak attacks without having to get into direct combat and monetise on their sneak attack ability to the fullest. But notice how Allison does not have a short bow in this video. Instead, she blames the wizard for not being able to be better than a wizard should be. For that reason, I consider Allison to be _secretly_ edgy in this video, which clearly is the edgiest way of being edgy.