Characters, Symbols and the Unicode Miracle - Computerphile
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Representing symbols, characters and letters that are used worldwide is no mean feat, but unicode managed it - how? Tom Scott explains how the web has settled on a standard.
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This video was filmed and edited by Sean Riley.
Computerphile is a sister project to Brady Haran's Numberphile. See the full list of Brady's video projects at: bit.ly/bradychannels
Which side of a napkin is the back?
This was shot at the Marriott St Pancras Renaissance in London - kind thanks to them for allowing us to film there! >Sean
This guy just radiates enthusiasm
You forgot to mention that the great hacker behind the great hack is Ken Thompson, the genius behind unix
It's rare to see a person who is knowledgeable, passionate and able to explain in a linear and easy to understand manner.
There's a saying that UTF-8 was successful because USA did not need to understand it. (Explanation: they could just keep using ASCII and magically they are compatible with UTF-8).
3 years later, still quality.
-Well, give-or-take a few leap seconds-
While designing ASCII they also chose "00110000" (48) for character zero. This is even more impressive than "a is 1" since you can then XOR any character with the value of character zero to find out if it's a decimal number (0 through 9)! :)
In code example:
char x = random(0, 128);
if (x ^ '0' < 10) {
// variable x is a decimal number character
} else {
// variable x is NOT a decimal number character
}
Tom Scott explaining UTF-8 in some hotel lobby 9 years ago. Very nice!
Where is he presenting all this? That place looks rather pleasant.
Hey, this video actually helped me fix a bug! I was trying to pass an ANSI filename to a function, and it would always fail. When I looked at the variable watch, the string showed up as a bunch of Chinese characters, so I was immediately able to recognize it was being reinterpret-casted to Unicode, rather than the proper typecast I assumed would happen!
Minor goof by Tom at 6:25 he writes 0110 0001 and writes 'A' when it should be 'a'. But a great video, and perhaps this is a deliberate mistake to see who was awake in class. I remember when I first read how unicode works I was blown away, but Tom's explanation is so much better than how I learnt it.
Just want to mention, not that people probably care, that Korean actually has a phonetic alphabet, unlike Chinese and Japanese. The letters do arrange into syllable blocks (e.g. ㅎ[h]+ㅏ[a]+ㄴ[n]+ㄱ[g]+ㅜ[u]+ㄱ[k]=한국[Hanguk, meaning Korea]), so I'm not sure if individual letters are encoded or if entire syllable blocks are encoded, but it is an alphabet nonetheless.
I didn't know that. I remember studying Korea in world history and how it was very different from Japan and China. I guess I never thought about the language being that different. That's cool, and I'm sure it makes keyboards easy for you guys :)
Yeah, it's pretty cool. I'm a Korean-language learner, and I mastered Korean touch-typing (on an American keyboard, no less) in about a month. :)
The Korean alphabet, called Hangeul, was invented by a team of scholars led by King Sejong the Great in 1443 so Koreans wouldn't have to use Chinese characters to write anymore. Whenever I talk to a Korean and the topic of Chinese characters comes up, I always tell them, "I'm very grateful for King Sejong!"
amykathleen2 You might not care, but Japanese texts have a large number of phonetic "letters" as well, unlike Chinese. Although it's technically not an alphabet but a syllabary. (Each "letter" signifying a syllable, rather than a "sound")
Japanese uses a mix of phonetic and non-phonetic characters, and for a significant number of words both phonetic and non-phonetic spellings are common. It's also entirely possible to write any Japanese sentence fully in phonetic characters, but it's practically impossible to make a proper sentence without them. (Although it should be noted most sentences, especially more complex ones, would be significantly harder to read were they written fully phonetically.)
In a modern Japanese sentence such as this:
これは日本語での例文である。
all the curly characters (これは での である) are phonetic, and the more rigid/angled characters (日本語 例文) are usually non-phonetic characters, often identical to characters used in Chinese (汉语 / 漢語). Although there's also a type of angled phonetic characters (カタカナ), which is usually reserved for loan words and foreign names and such.
It's likely you already knew this, but I felt the need to clarify for interested uninformed passersby.
Raizin Yes, I did know the basics. But I didn't know that the two syllabaries had different uses and different "kinds" of shapes, that's really interesting! Some of those angled phonetic characters really look a lot like Chinese characters - like 力 and 夕. I think if that syllabary was the more common one, I wouldn't be able to tell Chinese and Japanese writing apart, as my personal rule is "Japanese is the one with the squiggly characters," haha. Thank you for sharing that information! :D
***** The point I was trying to make is that, since not long after the Korean war, Korean has been written almost *exclusively* using a phonetic *alphabet*. Japanese usually uses a mix of Chinese characters and syllabic characters, while Chinese usually uses Chinese characters exclusively. In modern Korean, Chinese characters are only used in high-level texts, such as medical or legal journals. Everything else is written using the Korean alphabet (which, again, is *not* a syllabary, unlike bopomofo and kana, and is *not* based on borrowed letters, unlike pinyin). Many Koreans can't even write their own names using Chinese characters. So I made my comment to correct the fact that, in the video, he listed several alphabets (English, Cyrillic, Arabic), and then said, "Japanese, Chinese, and Korean characters." This is wrong; Korean uses an alphabet and should have been listed with the alphabets if it was to be listed at all.
Another nice feature: Sorting UTF-8 strings under the assumption they are ASCII strings will sort them correctly in ascending codepoint order. For proper sorting in the context of a language you need of course much more complicated methods, but having some kind of sort that somehow makes sense for some technical applications that can be performed by something that was written for ASCII is already very nice.
Tom Scott is the James Grime of Computerphile!
6:30 -- 01100001 is not 'A' and its not 65, its 97 / 'a' . Or am I wrong?
I've never seen a guy explaining utf8 so well and so excited like this fellow here - really great job
The original version of UTF-8 was invented by Thompson and Pike for use in Plan 9 from Bell Labs. There were already ISO standards for character encoding; ISO 10646 is the master character compendium and assigns codes throughout a 31-bit range. I was impressed enough with the Plan 9 scheme that I promoted it in my C Standards column in the Journal of C Language Translation. The advantages of UTF-8 covered in this video helped its adoption by many applications needing to support an international character set. By the way, Plan 9 only implemented the 16-bit range, although the full scheme can encode any 31-bit pattern. The current IETF RFC3629 unnecessarily constrains UTF-8 to 16 bits. I'm at the beginning of the process of trying to undo those restrictions.
This is interesting Doug. I plan to watch this later. Happy 4th to you too.
There will be more with Tom :) >Sean
See the "extra bits" film for a further explanation! (link in the description) >Sean
This video showed up to me in Dec 2023, 10 years later from when this video launched. And I'm still amazed on how this guy explained it 👍👍
I remember when I watched this video for the first time back in 2018, didn't make any sense to me. Now I can understand how beautifully he explains the complete journey started from Ascii to UTF 8.
Are you listening to me Neo, or are you distracted by "Woman in the red jeans" 5:40
Great explanation!
7:17 Why does he say 4096? You can use 5+6 = 11 bits so wouldn't that be 2^11 = 2048?
This was an excellent presentation. Thank you for making it so understandable!
I do have a very minor quibble. At 7:18, there's an error; in a 2 byte Unicode character, having 11 bits available (5 from the header, and 6 from the continuation) will only allow you to get values up to 2048, not 4096.
Holy shit, this guy is freaking enthusiastic about it. But he has a point.... I only recently learned the way UTF-8 works and I gotta say, this is some freaking genius hack.
UTF-8 is love, UTF-8 is life.
For a restaurant setup, this is BIZARRELY informational and useful. So strange!!!
5:38 i see what you did there xD
cameraman, please take a seat
There are problems with UTF8. For languages that aren't latin1 based, UTF8 can often take more space than UTF16 or ucs2. When we localize our games for Asian languages, we usually use ucs2 instead of UTF8. We have so much dialog that we have to be careful. Also, for those who said UTF16 is the same as ucs2, it isn't,. Ucs2 is a character set while UTF16 is an encoding. UTF16 supports many more code points that aren't in ucs2
Love this guy's enthusiasm and this type of video converting the odd bits of computing like how number phill covers the odd bits of maths rather than teach a full course in those subjects
I watched this video like 5 times over a long period now. Keep coming back to it, I so love the explanation and the storytelling!
This was unironically riveting for me. I'm amazed at the incredibly clever solutions that make up the foundations of mundane computer operation.
Thank you for providing Korean subtitles. You explained it so well that I could understand it well. Thank you.
This makes me think of the error-checking header used in PNG files, really a quite clever piece of work that I'd love to see a video on. =)
I really like Tom Scott's way of explaining.
For the people wanting to know where this vid was taken it in a cafe called the booking office in St Pancras station I know because I have been there once it's pretty popular
It's always interesting to listen to someone who's that passionate, or at least sounds passionate. Even if you don't care about the subject at hand, it somehow becomes interesting when person speaking is passionate about it!
Was this filmed in the St Pancras Hotel?
Yep
***** actually this is just their public bar, our filming location fell through and they were kind enough to let us film there. Anyone can go in >Sean
This guy is brilliant at explaining things, please feature him more often!
This guy is a LOT of fun. He's so enthusiastic! Please have him on again!
I learn more here than my software lessons
Definitely one of my favorite Tom Scott videos!
If you could do more with Tom Scott that would be amazing. I love his videos and these videos, so combining them is just awesome!
Such an incredible enthusiasm just for UTF-8! I’d like to hear you speaking about quantum entanglement 🥴
Very interesting & informative video.
Explained in detail and still very easy to understand.
Thanks for uploading.
Keep up the good work guys...
It's always nice when you're watching one of Brady's channels and someone from a completely unrelated channel you subscribe to turns up.
bingeing computerphile on halloween is a mood
Finally, someone who loves UTF-8 and Unicode as much as me!
Thank you so much for sharing so much detailed information!
I always thought of bits and bytes to be something i'll never be interester in, but frankly, this stuff is getting really interesting the more you into it.
Greetings and all the best!
this was one of the best videos on this channel, i loved it
UTF has to be one o the most beautiful solutions I´ve ever seen. Loved it since I translated the unicode page.
homework is to watch this
Another advantage of UTF-8 that wasn't mentioned is that if you want to sort strings by Unicode value, you can just treat it as though each byte were a separate character, and it'll just work.
The only real downside to UTF-8 is that you can't seek out a character at a specific index without walking the entire string character by character.
Another tiny correction: at 1:53, he says a space is all zeros; actually, a space is 0100000 = 32 = 0x20. As he mentions later, all zeros is "end of string".
This is one of the best computerphile videos. This is the sort of topic explained at the right level to be interesting to most people who (I suspect) subscribe here. Good work!
That is actually a very good explanation of UTF-8! I had wondered how the continuation bytes worked for a long time.
Very interesting video explainer. I learnt something new today! (Particularly like the crash zoom at 5:42 to see girl in red pants!)
Great video, I really like the close-discussion format !
Thanks for the history lesson. It is always interesting to remember how we got to where we are today.
You talk with so much passion about the subject. I think that's really beautifull. I bet Even someone who doesn't understand a sh** about computers will know how important it was.
Man... I love these videos, I love all the videos by you.
All 0s in ASCII is Nul. 32 (01 00000) is Space.
Why dose UTF-8 go up to 1111110X and not 11111110?
historical note: Before ASCII there was 5 bit teletype code (upper case only), binary coded decimal (BCD), which was a 6 bit code, and extended BCD interchange code (EBCDIC), an 8 bit code. BCD and EBCDIC were IBM standards adopted by the industry. All used the "trick" of having the letters in collating order; it was the basis for punch card computing.
Nothing short of amazing.
These videos are great contributions to human knowledge
Love the enthusiasm! :)
I've never seen someone that passionate about encoding characters.
In depth explanation. He also shares a cool way to remember what A's and a's codepoints are.
Patiently watched twice and understood it very well, thanks!
I have been waiting for something on Unicode/UTF-8. THANK YOU, COMPUTERPHILE!
Love this guy's passion, great video
More of this guy please! He's awesome, really great speaker!
This guy's personal channel is in the description. I just checked it out and it's really amazing. You should too.
Great explanation, love his enthusiasm
This is the first computerphile video I didn't hate. Well done.
Great Vid! one of my most fave vids from this channel.
Thanks for this! Character encoding always confused me; this video explained UTF pretty well to me.
I'm still not sure I understand how a UTF-8 encoded file (with characters *other* than ASCII characters) would show up in something that is only ASCII compatible?
You explained that so clearly, well done! I agree its brilliant
This was great! I like this guy and the episodes become better and better!
i love this guy's enthusiasm. great video
5:39: Zoom out. Pan right.
This is the sort if thing I subbed for. Thank you :)
"[...] we don't have mojibake, [...] we have something that nearly works" - Tom Scott, 2013.
I absolutely adore this "nearly" thing.
This schooled me. Great information. Thank you! I just subbed.
Am I misunderstanding something or is there an error at 6:30? Shouldn't that be 97 or a lower case 'a'?
I like UTF-8 too. It's very useful. I quite like UTF-16 for encoding foreign words in RAM. I wrote a special text editor for writing in different languages and I found UTF-8 to be perfect for saving the text files.
I don't even want to think about the stress of allocating every symbol with a number, but great video!
Beautiful explanation, Thank you
thanx Computerphile for explaining utf8 , user tried to understand from wiki but could not do it, u make everything simple
In practice, you’ll never really encounter UTF-8 byte sequences with 4 or 5 continuation bytes. In November 2003, UTF-8 was restricted by RFC 3629 to end at U+10FFFF, in order to match the constraints of the UTF-16 character encoding. This removed all 5- and 6-byte sequences, and about half of the 4-byte sequences, but it’s still enough to represent every possible Unicode symbol ever.
If you asked me to watch a UTF-8, I would have given it a pass... but with this guy, I could not stop watching.
Hey Tom! Fancy seeing you here :) Great to see you on ye olde Computerphile.
Maybe catch you at the next TDC! Loving the video empire Brady, thanks for bringing us a slice of Tom - Jim.
Simply Elegant … clear explanation
perfect explanation! Thanks for that.
Finally I get an explanation! I've been wondering about this.
Great explanation of UTF-8! Thanks!