The Pecharunt Event Is... Weird.
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- Mochi Mayhem the epilouge event for Pokemon Scarlet and Violet has been released with Pecharunt benig the latest mythical Pokemon from this quest, and while it's nice that we got a free DLC update, and an actual event legendary Pokemon after so long, this DLC 100% has issues. Yes all 5 of the Gen 9 rival were there, but man did this event fall flat when it comes to the story and DLC.
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Why was everyone in the Epilogue doing the Chicken Dance? That's the more pressing question.
Isn't the chicken dance just flapping their elbows not lift their legs
@@alexesvargas9093 I don't remember. Better rewatch Jimmy Neutron Boy Genius.
I don't get that either
That’s what I was thinking though-
@@davideostudio2664 How strange. Why wasn't THAT addressed?!
Nemona probably faced Kieran in a single battle, and we know that Kieran is more at home in double battles. Who knows how Nemona would do in a double battle?
he also potentially didnt have his champion team on him too since when you tag team with him he has poliwrath
Yeah I figured but still hahaha
@@TomsSauce He had his Hydrapple and Incineroar
@TomsSauce he has a full team when he fights alongside you
He has at least
Poliwrath
Hydrapple
Dragonite
Porygon Z
Haven't seen the rest
Nemona’s probably only ever done one Double Battle, and that being against Ryme.
Well actually, if you bring the loyal three to go against Pecharunt when you fight it, it’ll actually react to their presence thinking they’ve betrayed it. Ogerpon also reacts to seeing Pecharunt in battle since it was the cause of her losing her friend.
Really? Did anyone make a video about that? Had I had known I’d have brought them both.
TLDR: source?
@@truenatural20 There's footage of it on Mixeli's channel, look for the video titled "What happens when send ogerpon and the loyal three against pecharunt?"
Links in youtube comments tend to get censored so I unfortunately can't just give the video url
@@riguor9876 I found it by overhearing it in a video, but thanks anyway
This story was like a Halloween special.
That is what I thought as well!
If only the Teal Mask came out in summer, Indigo Disc sometime in September, and the epilogue in late October.
I haven't seen anyone talk about the fact that Penny's Father is highly suggested to be PEONY from the Crown Tundra!
When she talks with her dad, he mentions Adven-tour, a joke that Peony used all the time!! :D
Does Penny ever mention having other siblings since we meet Peony's daughter in the Crown Tundra and see looks way different and a few years older than Penny. It may be possible that she is his youngest daughter but I wonder if instead she was Rose's daughter since Rose and Peony do have similar personalities and probably would make the same jokes.
@@declanmckenna6854 you might have a point! but I think it would be common knowledge if she was the child of a actual War Criminal like Rose :P
You know…the whole incomplete story about Pecharunt and the loyal three might be a setup for a legends: Kitakami game far down the road. They wet our whistles with a hint of the story, and when they give us the rest, via spinoff, people will snap it up.
Oh that would be cool wouldn’t it?)
I mean, Carmine’s whole “I guess we’ll never know the real story behind Pecharunt and the loyal three, will we?” Line if you invite her to the club after completing the epilogue just screams ‘preview of coming attractions’. The only way it could have been more obvious was if she winked at the camera.
@@Dragoflare GF devs has said they leave things unanswered on purpose because the mysteries are more fun and a lot of the games they grew were like that
It’s not incomplete
@madnessarcade7447 wait, is that why they just randomly put those ghost girls in Pokemon xy etc? 😂
Or Pokemon Masters. 🤷♂️
I did think he was a bit possessed but I wanted more story for the loyal three. WHAT ABOUT THE CHAIIIINSSSSS!???
Might get explained in the anime
It's signature move is malignant chain so I'm presuming it's a not confirmed by heavily implied sort of thing ahha
Lack of explanation is wack
The Loyal Three were probably eating nothing BUT the pecha mochi up until their fight with Ogerpon.
@@HybridHero GF devs has said they leave things unanswered on purpose because the mysteries are more fun and a lot of the games they grew were like that
Other than the possessed Mochi/Chicken dancing, is anyone gonna mention/noticed that all three of our Academy companions fill in the roles of Loyal Three?
Nemona = Okidogi (head strong & obsessed with fighting)
Penny = Monkidori (smart and skeptic)
Arven = Fezandipiti (chivalrous pretty boy)
Considering the little story that was here, they could have just stuck Mochi Mayhem within the Teal Mask so it would feel less disjointed going back to Kitakami after finishing the Indigo Disk. The problem is then we lose the character interactions but they could fix that by incorporating the old Area Zero crew into the Terapagos portion of the DLC.
They could’ve done a lot tbh
That would’ve been amazing. And we still don’t know what put Mabosstiff to near death.
Wouldn’t have worked as an epilogue then
GF devs has said they leave things unanswered on purpose because the mysteries are more fun and a lot of the games they grew were like that
@@madnessarcade7447
So they just admitted that they can’t come up with anything more interesting than what we can think of. Okay.
@manoftruth0935 Yes we do, it was a paradox pokemon. Its why Areven warns you about their strength
Not every story needs to be explained in every little detail. There are many clues to what the all story is while leaving some mysteries in the air, for the interpretation of the player.
It is confirmed that Pecharunt had the Loyal three under his command as he gets mad they're not anymore if you bring one in your fight against him. In the same way, Ogerpon is really mad when brought out since he knows Pecharunt was behind them (and potentially the all village's hatred in the past).
The all "desire to the extreme" is not only Kieran's thematic, but also the AI professor. And we know Terapagos' influence linked Paldea and Kitakami once.
The dust on the inanimate Pecharunt on the stand tells us that he probably sleeps for long times unless something wakes it, in this case it's likely the mythical pecha's scent.
The story is still there, even if they leave empty spaces for you to fill out. We can't know for sure all the details, and we are not supposed to.
Dawg the problem is there’s nothing concrete, it would be fine if they had something but they barely have anything. You have to grasp at straws to figure stuff out sometimes
Dude, one thing is to find clues here and there but not leaving it all to the fans interpretation, so you mean is ok for fans to build the story instead of the game developers? Because that's the whole deal with mythical Pokémon since years ago, it's extremelly rare for them to have a story or lore related to their native region, and this one is a HUGE miss opportunity, nobody managed to identify this "unknown" Pokémon, they didn't even wondered what was that thing, that's the least we should get, and the possesion thing should be more related to people's ambitions and less "oh, just make everyone do the chicken dance" and maybe people would put two and two together, also even characters pointing out some relation to how the possesion could look similar to the loyal three toxic chains, stuff like that. I don't think people ask to explain every single detail, Peacharunt could do something completely different but at the same time it could hint how everything started, how the loyal three were created, stuff like that, because without that, you are just saying that in the point of view of the characters, Peacharunt is not related to the Loyal three, it is an unknown Pokémon and it just appeared out of nowhere for no reason, that's why the story doesn't work at all.
I have a feeling that Pecharunt was meant to be more connected to the 1st DLC’s story, but, they needed a mon to be a mythical event & decided to reduce (cut) Pecharunt’s role in the main 1st DLC’s story
Thus why it feels *disjointed* imo
After all, that cutscene that plays in the 1st DLC (talking about Ogerpon’s past) shows the Lousy 3 AND Pecharunt (cut out) is probably a remnant of the original story the devs had planned out
TLDR : Pecharunt played a bigger part as a legendary in the 1st DLC’s story, devs needed a mon for myth event, decided it should be Pecharunt, & reworked its role to be done at a later time thus why it feels so disconnected
@@MaxEdrox "so you mean is ok for fans to build the story instead of the game developers?"
Yes. That's the point. Of course a writer knows the story he writes, ideas are not put at random (And that's why exploration of cut content is interesting in any games, looking at how the story might have been told differently).
But in the end, the final product is meant to be leaving room for interpretation, holes that have several solutions to connect the dots.
The story is told incomplete, it is different from "not working".
@@HybridHero This is their exact point though. The story given is not the full story with the intent of letting people make the links they want.
I get that accepting that all questions will not have answers can be unsettling if you've always had "complete" stories, but it's a way to share a story just as much as telling everything is another.
tbh, the mochi mayhem was to introduce pecharunt and end the storyline of scarlet and violet. There wasn't much of a need to introduce new lore and stuff.
It kinda sucked we didn't get any explanations on the lore. But I much prefer we get the pokemon and the lore be left untouched then get neither. Plus the epilog tied up the story nicely. It's better then not having it. Is all I'm saying. But yeah I would have prefer more lore then an hour of mochi dance.
Yeah I agree with you
there is a new video on the pecharunt lore released by the Pokemon Company!
@MC-sd6dp I've already watched it, but thanks for letting me know anyway. I'm sure some poor soul hasn't yet, and letting them know would be a big help. You're doing good work out here.
I was really hoping Pecharunt would scurry off after you fought nemona and you'd need to chase it around kitakami like past roaming legendaries and eventually have you corner it in the mountain.
Maybe as it runs you can find scattered pages Legends Arceus style revealing the story.
A tad disappointing story wise, but still had fun
I don’t think it was meant to be story deep but more back to the comedy sense
I was really hoping that he had a second hidden form like i explained in my comment i think he should have had been POISON/DARK
Fun but disappointing sounds like Pokémon as of late
Yeah i was kinda hoping for him to have a hidden form and it would have made more sense that when cornered he reveals a dark/poison as a stronger form (he eats his own mochi or something like that)
Man sometimes GF need to listen to the fans as they make good theories and upgrade the story/lore sometimes for the better
That sounds like better story telling than the epilogue
pecharunt’s dex entry for scarlet could also explain why kieran’s been acting the way that hes been. my theory is basically pecharunt helping kieran’s desire for victory and draws out his untapped potential, to the point where he quite literally trained without rest during blueberry academy. maybe the reason why kieran and the loyal 3 isnt complete mochi mochi is because at the brief interaction at peachy’s, maybe pecharunt gave kieran some power for loyalty and power but kieran unintentionally transferred some of the power from pecharunt to the loyal 3 with his punch, making his and the loyal 3’s loyalty not as much diffeent while still drawing out their potential and desires, or something to that degree.
Yeah the look in Kieran’s eye when he switched up made me feel like he was possessed by something
Considering we needed the berry to get Pecharunt to show up.. no, Kieran wasn't possessed, just the obsession of getting stronger and trying to surpass our character changed his personality until we beat him twice.
@@lordmarwolaeth4570 or you can think that pecharunt tried to posses kieran but his will to beat you was just so much greater that pecharunt could not do it
You wanted DLC to answer the lore. I wanted this DLC to give me more interactions between my friends. We are not the same.
Why can’t we have both
Exactly@@HybridHero
@@HybridHero Not saying we can't. But the lore for Pecharunt ain't that deep. There's enough to fill in the blanks that a lot of people can figure out. Besides there's enough people in the comments piecing together the purple aura regarding Kieran. Mainly that Kieran's anger is what revived the loyal 3. It's called reading between the lines. That's what you had to teach Ortega in the Team Star tutor side quest.
I wanted the DLC to give the opportunity to try to save Arven's parents while also allowing the A0 crew to hang out with the Blueberry Crew
this lil bit of extra content just made me realize even more that penny is just like me fr
I SAID THE SAME THING OMG
@@jmhquantum 😭
They made her so relatable haha
I love how the A0 gang are just a friend group. Penny was amazing in this (why was she so good at the dancing)
I know right. Out of all the people who were dancing, she had the cleanest movements.
Lowkey she’s a dancer
Don’t forget the amazing line “Right? And she’s so pretty, my brain literally glitched when I saw her” when she was talking abt the player character’s mom 😭
@@somethingrandom08 Penny is
somehow the best female out of the 3.
@@YangTheAce True true. She’s a bi eevee lover, what more could you want from a character (nobody even try to say I’m sexualizing a child, the dialogue basically confirms it (not talking to the person who responded to me, just anybody who is gonna come after me for saying that))
I feel like Pecharunt wanted to control Kieran but they couldn't due to the lack of mochi. So they seeked an alternative.
Our lie about Ogerpon and the feeling of betrayal in Peachy's shop could be the catalyst for Kieran to awaken Pecharunt.
That strong will and desire being the perfect conduit for him to liberate those purple fumes while in the Loyal Three altar.
Maybe Kieran wasn't fully possessed because he had the Teal Mask with him, it probably gave him some immunity. Idk.
And Pecharunt only awakening after Terapagos is caught and tamed, their powers were now able to reach new heights.
Pecharunt probably enhanced Kieran's negative emotions vicariously without the need to puppeteer or subjugate him.
We won’t know unfortunately rip
I kinda feel like Kieran wasn't possessed as strongly, because all Pecharunt really forced him to do was to free the three bastards. The Scarlet entry does claim to grant strength and desires though, so after he did that, he just got a taste of this power and took it in.
Hell, he even mentions, that he got some idea what happened, though he never gets to express that.
This is what he meant. Why is it left up to us to like... figure it out and just never know?! it sucks
Its fun.@@flookaraz
8:09 I think it's up to interpretation, so here's my take:
Pecharunt needs to give the toxic chain or mochi in order to fully get control with the desires, Kieran didn't have it, but due to his feelings of being betrayed caused Pecharunt to slightly alter him, and was able to transfer its essence to the monument through Kieran, and near the end Pecharunt manages to get control over Kieran's emotions almost fully.
Later on, Kieran is still under it's influence in Blueberry Academy, but a few things make it easier for him to momentarily snap out of it. And his reaction to Ogerpon (which I didn't do because I don't want to be a jerk), was Pecharunt remembering Ogerpon and having a sudden reaction to it. In Area Zero's Underdepths though, Pecharunt's dormant body was far enough from Kieran that the player calling out for Kieran to help was able to make Kieran remember their bond and break free. This also explains why Kieran's hairstyle is moved around to look like Pecharunt, but also why his eyes don't turn purple because the control is incomplete, meaning you can snap him out of it without having to contain/defeat Pecharunt.
Yeah we all have to come up with our own ideas, but unfortunately we will never know
@@HybridHero it's sad, but hey, that's the fun of it sometimes.
I feel like part of these expectations are based in how much people DID figure out beforehand. Concluding that there has to be more, people kept imagining the possibilities of what it could be or do. Pecharunt is a puppetmaster, it is a schemer. Maybe it did have grand plans but the player, being the protagonist, crushed them underfoot again and again. Maybe this was its last ditch effort to get what it wanted, possibly revenge for its defeat at the hands (paws?) of Ogrepon. People controlled by it can speak and write, maybe it got someone else to do something indirectly. Or maybe the mythical pecha berry revitalized it from its slumber? Some of the official posts about the event suggest that Pecharunt is stirred by the smell.
It might've wanted it (being a greedy guy as implied by the story of the Lousy Three)
Granted, the chicken dance gave me a chuckle during the entire epilogue with how silly the whole situation was (that random npc dancing in the background of the Arwen/Penny fight killed me). But man, why did so much potential for a good story be squandered for a cheap Monty Python sketch...
Perhaps Pecharunt's entire deal isn't finished yet though. Perhaps a darker story will be told in a different game that will connect the remaining dots. Probably false hope though, knowing Gamefreak...
A different game may be possible
Perhaps it will go into how pecharunt is just a child and uses its abilities to do cheap jokes and get want it wants, but they become much more malicious and dangerous as adults
@@HybridHero who knows there is still some stuff from gen 5 that were never answered in later games (and crazy thing is with some of those is gamefreak has known the whole time but they just hold the cards close to the vest). Now for this epilogue it was an hour of me laughing my head off which i really enjoyed could have been more but there nothing we can do about it.
Pecharunt looks like a Poison type Tapu imo
Yeah that’s what everyone called it! Bye you use my code from NAnimerica? You should get something special coming soon if you did
Wonder if it came from Alola. Funny enough, Ogrepon's Cornerstone mask gives me Polynesian vibes.
@@gustavju4686I learned a few months ago that there's a mask in Nacrene museum that ppl used to wear in festivals & it looks to be very African inspired. It was pointed out by Birdkeeper Toby.
This was a nice extra content that we got. I was hoping to learn more about pecharunt but mythical Pokémon barely have any story regulated for them they just show up. At least with this mythical we got a nice chapter dedicated to it and it was very entertaining how the mind controlled characters were dancing like maniacs the meme potential is strong. I do like that GF added a nice reaction animation pecharunt gives to Ogerpon and the loyal 3.
At the very least I’m glad we got something that’s for sure
I mean pecharunt was basically evil momotaro anyway
Pecharunt could of still been posting Kieran when pecharunt is posting Kieran’s grandma she dosent have the purple aura but still is possessed almost as if pecharunt is speaking through her so maybe pecharunt actively controls one person at a time and keeps the other inactive yet still under his control
I doubt it it’s got the loyal three in check
If you talk to Carmine in the League Club after finishing it she says something about The Loyal Tree and Pecharunt looking alike or are from the same group or something like that. I didn’t really pay attention that well😂
My suggestion, the poison seems to control them yes, but it seems to retain their personality based on how strong they are, you can see that in there dialogue, most people just go mochi, our friends, however, say a bit of dialogue, so maybe he is just that strong
The Loyal Three definitely were more so just enhanced by Pecharunt and were already willing to help it out with causing mayhem in the town, without a Mochi incident. I think the backstory is clear for Kitakami but the whole Area Zero stuff is still up for debate, regardless of the new idea with the Time Machine actually being a working machine, but not in the sense that it’s our past or future, rather branched realities/timelines that mimic our own.
Honestly, I love the fact that Kieran didn’t end up possessed. But that’s probably a me thing cause I love seeing theorists seethe when the theories they treated as fact get spat on lol
There’s something glorious about seeing these Poketubers foaming at the mouth that their theories were just a load of waffle lmao
They could’ve easily had Kieran’s grandpa explain the lore behind Pechaurunt when we got to the shrine. Then maybe after the fake out we learn that Kieran tried to make a deal with Peacharunt, but backed out, or something.
I just love how Kieran is still kinda shy but is no longer weak.
While also being strong but no longer toxic towards other people.
He's changed for the better. He can properly take Ls now when he lost against Nemona unlike back in Teal Mask when he couldnt handle loses and rejection.
You dont always win. You will take Ls in life in order to learn and grow from it.
I haven’t got to the epilogue yet but the fact everyone expected for Kieran being mind controlled or something is creepy let alone the chicken dance ;-;
GF devs has said they leave things unanswered on purpose because the mysteries are more fun and a lot of the games they grew were like that
Kieran "my whole town keeps getting mind controlled, we have to stop this creature"
me "hehehe... they all dance funny"
Ogerpon and Dokutaro having beef is sooooo interesting cause I wanna know how Ogerpon would do against Dokutaro in a 1v1 with all 4 of her masks
This felt like it came out of a Yo-kai Watch anime episode
I just thought the aura around Kiernan represented the toxic emotions swirling inside him
I agree that the mochi mayhem quest is kinda weird but I enjoy the journey with the friends that the main character made all at once
I guess the loyal 3 came back to life through sheer will power
The thing is that Game Freak will never spoon feed us the whole story on any given thing. It’s honestly more fun to use your imagination and problem solving skills to weave clues together and discuss theories for years to come rather than have everything explained and move on
It kinda goes both ways. It'd be cool to have more questions answered & get better development & implementation of legendaries like Terapagos & Pecharunt, but piecing together the clues left by the devs & forming your own interpretation of it can also be a enjoyable activity. It's always been that way for Gamefreak. So to suddenly not expect that happening (especially in a dlc) wouldn't let u appreciate the story for what it's.
The pokemon posessing nemona: alright let’s go- what are you doing.. no don’t battle him, hey, get back here! Stop running towards him!
If you send Out ogrepon against pecharunt ogrepon Will be pissed af
Oooo that’s good to know! Thank you!
@@HybridHeroWhich is interesting because that would confirm they did encounter Each other. The Fact That Orgepon Was so outrage means It Knows It was behind its previous trainer's death or disappearance.
Pecharunt have too much potential to be an evil mastermind Mythical Pokemon! We want more of their lore!!! 😭😭😭
Did y’all pick up on the hint at Penny’s dad? It’s Peony! He says “adven-tours” and Penny mentioned that on the phone!! I mean it makes sense, given Peony, Peonia, and Penny all having similar names… just blew my mind.
I kinda knew Kerian wasn’t possessed this entire time, otherwise Kerian will do a chicken dance in front of the blueberry academy. 😅 Kerian was angry because of us. It’s power he’s craving and we kick him out. But at least we can reunited them.
Why is pecharunt not questioning how she said something besides mochi like match like why not question that they all say only mochi but her
The music in this epilogue is terrifying I swear pokemon could make a horror movie…
What’s weird was that Pecharunt forced Arven and Penny to send out their Aces second instead of last…
And when could Nemona have the time to get Kommo-o and Milotic?!
Also… wished there was a way to perform the paradox when the og friend crew was in Kitakami.
Edit: How much do you want to bet that Penny is Peony’s second daughter?
I think it was just a goofy way to wrap up Paldea. Although I’m a bit upset we haven’t had any of our questions on area zero answered, i have a feeling the next g5 game will have more info on area zero or paldea so my hopes are high
The BB League Club updates with with new rematches and character interactions too with this mini dlc update. Its within those rematches conversations that Carmine brings up the connection between Pecharunt & The Loyal Trio/Lousey Trio.
Mainline Pokémon video games having concrete stories challenge (IMPOSSIBLE?!)
The character interactions and dialogue are kinda hard carrying. Lol. Is it sad that I was more impressed with how they handled _Meloetta_ of all Pokémon? No elaborate story necessary, you hear (essentially) playground rumors about it (they don't know what the mon actually is), you get like a clue here and there, you do some VERY specific things and suddenly you hear the voice... the song... and there she is. Lmao.
I dunno why but I really loved that.
Kieran has his Indigo Disk team.
He just has Poliwrath instead of Polioed. Other than that it seems to be the BB academy team. High levels too, up to 87
I'm so glad you said something cause I thought I was a crazy! Cause I was like "So...they just aren't going to explain anything and that's it...? Did I miss something!?!" Like wtf was that!?
Considering how far Kieran went in training, I'll go with he quite literally burned Pecharunt out.
It just enhanced his negative emotions, so it left in him the state we see down in Area Zero. Terapagos going into their Stellar form and breaking a master ball most likely yeeted whatever hold it had left because it almost got its host killed.
I gotta say, probably the best part of the free dlc was when pecharunt infected arven and penny, but the mochi aimed at Kieran Bonked him in the head XD
It feels like the Teal Mask's story was written by one person, the Indigo Disk by another person and this story by a third person and none of them spoke with each other to confirm if their stories had any connections per se.
The bit I liked is that Nemona actually changed two of her Pokemon for Kitakami Pokemons. She now has a Komomo-o, and a Milotic if you started with Fuecoco. A vid I saw had swapped Milotic for Dusknoir if you've started with Quaxly and a Ribonbee for Sprigatito.
I’m pretty sure I can confidently say that scarlet and violet have the best characters in any Pokemon game.
But I majorly disagree with you saying that it’s pointless. If kiran was being controlled, and that was why his personality was shifted, that would’ve been a huge cop out. It’s way more satisfying to see a character change on their own, not being controlled by someone. It would honestly ruin him as a character if he was controlled.
Answer the whole thing about why is the loyal 3 being resurrected, would it be simpler to say they found out that ogerpon was back, and came back?
I did say later on that Kieran only had character development because of that which is fine, with mind control he wouldn’t which would suck.
The Ogrepon thing doesn’t make sense either cause technically Ogrepon has always been around
I think the loyal 3 resurrection might have to do with the Tera crystals on the Teal Mask Kieran was carrying around. They have reality warping powers (advancing technology, creating Herba Mystica, changing types, bringing timelines together, etc) so they could have just as well revived them. Or even simpler than that, they just rewound time to "unkill" them or whatever
Every game has its own charm
You guys can't deny tho. The theme music during battles with the mochi mochi zombies was a banger. I was unknowingly dancing along during battles 😂😅
Considering their teams, it does kinda make sense Nemona beating Kieran. Lycanroc, Kommo-o/Goodra, or even Pawmot can counter with Incineroar, Dragonite, Politoed, Porygon-Z, Grimmsnarl, & Hydrapple with how Nemona has set up their final movesets. And Nemona's will is so OP to fight through Pecharunt's control to still being herself to fight us!!!! And I have to say, Nemona's new improved team is interesting!!!! I figured Lycanroc, Goodra, & Pawmot would remain as they're signature constants with her (of course the Starter remains too). I did think it was a good changing Dudunsparce & Orthworm, as they never felt real in her team. I Really wasn't expecting another Pseudo like Kommo-o though. And Nemona is sorta pulling a Leon, as unlike Leon where one of his pokemon (that's not the starter) is at a type disadvantage to the player's starter (Rhyperior, Seismitoad, & Mr. Rime), Nemona picks one that's stronger than the player's (Milotic, Ribombee, & Dusknoir) {as well as the addition that Nemona also gains another starter of either Infernape, Decidueye, or Greninja}
- But I am a bit curious which of team fits Nemona best more. In my opinion, I'd say Milotic would be her best synched choice (secondary/back-up would be Ribombee. Dusknoir seems kinda far-off of Nemona's character & personality); in which this also links to her additional partner as Infernape which I can also think matches Nemona well too
Pokémon is one of my favorite franchises ever, but man, it's kinda sad to see how the lack of time is affecting the games negativelly. The amount of unused/unfinished/underutilized content, especially since gen 6, is kinda rough
My one theory for why they haven't really expanded a lot of lore details is that I think that they may be saving it for either an arc in the current anime, or possibly a movie, and they are trying to keep some details under wraps for that project?
Or they just want fans to piece it together. We sort of have/can with the hints. We know Pecharunt is the boss of the Lousy Three. He was there when they attacked Ogrepon (Ogrepon's reaction when fighting Pecharunt shows this as she is pissed! And the image of the trio from the TM cutscene). The only big question is... how were the lousy three revived. Given Pecharunt's ghost typing, I can only assume it's because of the toxic chains of the trio reacting to Kieran's strong emotions (or the presence of the Teal Mask).
Anyone else instantly realize through dialogue that peony is Penny's dad when she's doing her phone call? Also Penny does that dance faster than anyone else, my guess to that is that she has a lot of sugar on a regular basis than a normal kid her age.
Thank you! I’m glad someone is talking about the incompleteness of this story. It was a messs.
The mochi/chicken dance made Pecharunt looks silly. I hope its lore was more sinister.
Royal three came to life from the negative emotions of Kieran, royal three and Pecharunt power is negativity and the hunger of desires
I wish that, at least, the possessed people weren't just dancing around like idiots. Maybe instead of the full zombie pandemic thing, it could have just possessed the Area Zero gang and Carmine, having granted them their wishes like it did with the Loyal Three - but in a twisted way that leads you and Kieran to stop Pecharunt.
I'm glad Kieran wasn't possessed by Pecharunt, because that would make Kieran's character story not his own
Clearly pokemon went with a more, show don't tell storytelling with this one, Kieran probably wasnt directly controlled but maybe the corruption rubbed off on him through his more negative emotions, the mythical is poison/ghost, ghost seems pretty random until you realize the loyal 3 came back to life, maybe the ghost typing has connections to that, they came back when Kieran's negative emotions activated the mochi chains on the 3, in turn it rubbed off on him causing him to spiral deeper but because of his distance from the 3/ mythical it faded.
My fan theory is pecharunt was weak before the scent of our souvenir pecha berry comes close. After waking up it was happy to be fully alive and powerful again. Instead of controlling people or pokemon in a way like the loyal three or pursuading Kieran's negative feelings to become stronger, it decided to go mochi frenzied. It finally was able to fly around and it likely had many poisonous mochis to throw or leave so power got into its head. I lowkey wanted more from it tho... ~.~'
I'm trying to figure out how to find and catch the 3 pokemon from the first DLC. I haven't even started on the second one yet.
Do you remember where you battled them with Carmine? Go to those spots.
They are in the exact same locations you fought them in during the story
Comments got you ;)
Maybe Kieran actually ruined Pecharunt’s plan. During the event, Pecharunt took the mob to Loyalty Plaza. But the loyal three weren’t there, because they had long since been resurrected and (most likely) caught by the player already. Imagine a version where they were still there for Pecharunt to revive and power up. The player would be so busy with them that Pecharunt could escape. Still annoyed that the purple color of that aura when the three were revived is never going to be explained, because it’s apparently not the case that Kieran was being used. Pecharunt would have known it was pointless to go Loyalty Plaza. Maybe we wanted a dark story than GameFreak wanted to give us.
I agree with the fact that Pecharunt could have been introduced in a better, more lore compatible way. The following is a list of some tidbits/lore that could have been used in Pecharunt's DLC:
*OGERPON"S PAST*
-We see in Grandpa's story that there were four pokemon that stole the masks (it's clearly Pecharunt in the upper right corner, not a part of Okidogi's chain like some people misinterpret).
*POKEMON D/P/PLAT*
-There's also the (Dis)loyal Three sporting purple chains (which are similar to the Red Chain Cyrus used to control Diagla and Palkia in D/P/Plat.).
-The (Dis)loyal Three are a trio, similar to the Lake Trio in D/P/Plat.
-Penny, Arven, and Nemona make up what I call "Paldea Trio". Much like the trio of Dialga, Palkia, and Arceus.
*POKEMON COLLOSEUM*
-Kieran's Shadow Punch/Pecarunt's possession effect look similar to the dark energy effect that Shadow Pokemon from the Colloseum had.
-Ogerpon was never at the cave whenever Kieran visited there, which may suggest that she had the same power that Rua had (the power to see the darkness within the Shadow Pokemon).
-Kieran's refusal to listen (which I see as another reference to Colloseum, specifically the "pokemon's hearts being closed off artificially" part), only coming to his senses once emotions reaching a fever pitch and Scarlet/Violet* call out to Kieran.
*POKEMON RED/BLUE/YELLOW*
-In Lavender Town, there was a place dedicated to laying the souls of deceased Pokemon to rest. Most of the trainers there were Mediums, which were influenced by ghosts. It's possible that this happened because of The GHOST's rage from Team Rocket desecrating it's grave (which most likely influenced the Meduims who resided in the tower). This bit of lore could have been used as a way to explain Kieran's Shadow Punch cutscene, since Kieran did stand next to the plushie at Peachy's (getting the power to resurrect the Disloyal Three just from exposure to a harmless looking plushy that turned out to be toxic).
*I'm using Scarlet as the girl's name and Violet as the Boy's name since I don't know their canon names...
Peony is penny's father because, Peony also says, Adven-tour.
I just wrapped up my own stream of this story. I wanted to make sure I didn't somehow miss something. Thank you for confirming that no, I did not, Game Freak just completely dropped this particular ball.
It was so weird but that’s a good thing it was very creative lol
Maybe that’s why SV didn’t have a ghost girl
Yeah I didn't thought about it but it was the 1st mainline game to not have a creepy area/quest.
It actually does get mentioned. It's just by other people after the mochi mayhem. Also another CZcamsr explained why the loyal came back to life. The crystal pool brings people back to life in a way. One of those crystals are on the mask Kieran stole in teal mask. Then the intent, after he got beaten by the mc, he was angered at being outcasted by his sister and the mc, and then punched the shrine. Life giving crystal+intent+contact
If i had to guess, the loyal three revived after feeling Kieran's desire to become stronger and prove himself to the MC when he punched the grave, the purple glow simply being corrupt desire and not some mysteirous power linked to Pecharunt.
Yeah, Pecharunt was what gave the loyal three powers based on desires and all, but it wasn't evolved with events at all until the Mochi Mayhem event. Maybe the reason it woke up in the first place was because it was hungry, its name is Pecharunt , like a Pecha Berry, and you have a Mythical Pecha berry in your pocket after all. :/
Pecharunt makes everyone do the Thriller dance. Make it happen gmoders.
Dropped the ball? Nah it was perfection and good wholesome fun it was entertaining and we did get some lore
GF devs has said they leave things unanswered on purpose because the mysteries are more fun and a lot of the games they grew were like that
Chicken dance was funny
Indeed it was
I feel like after Sun & Moon (the original's not ULT. Sun/ULT. Moon) the story aspect kinda went to Hell. I'm not asking for Baldur's Gate 3 levels of story telling but what I am asking for is a concrete story with actual villains that are both seen and talked about for most of the game, plot points that don't just happen out of the blue, good character development (which to Scarlet & Violet's credit, is something the game is pretty good at for the most part), and no deus ex machina's (like how we're somehow able to catch Terapagos in ANY pokeball even though it literally broke the only pokeball that results in a 100% catch rate). While I have some minor issues with them, I liked the base game's overall story for Scarlet & Violet and the Teal Mask's story but the latter half of the story for Indigo Disk and the entire Epilogue feel really phoned in.
Best comment I’ve seen on this video thus far
It broke because it put up a sheild that blocked being put back in and you weakened it by fighting it so that’s why you could catch it
@@mrfrogyeet I know the shield is what broke the master ball but you're still forgetting that this is a master ball we're talking about here. It's the thing that's been guaranteed to catch any pokemon in any game that it's been in for years. The only explanation Scarlet & Violet gives players for having the shield break the master ball is because Terapagos was overwhelmed by the terastal energy down in the deepest part of the Underdepths in Area Zero which-anyone who's played any Pokemon game other than Legend's Arceus (it's the one game without the master ball due to not having been invented yet) would know just how much of a cop out that is. If I can catch the God of the pokemon universe with a master ball without it putting up a shield then why should a pokemon that is significantly weaker (in both a lore and literal sense) be able to do this? As Lacey would say, "It's just not right!"
The mon needed to be overcharged with terastal energy to break it and you just finished beating it all out of 'em the same way you do any other tera raid.
lol I thought Kieran was possessed by Pecharunt in the Indigo disc because he had the purple hair. I thought Pecharunt was on Kieran's head making Kieran aggressive
The Area Zero part of Indigo Disk and this Epilogue reek of rewrites. So many dropped plot threads and both stories boiling down to "find the legendary, boss fight, catch it, done." with little to no explanation of why it should tie into the rest of the story. I mean, think about it. What's Pecharunt's goal? It just gets woken up after we show up at Peachy's with some pecha berry we got in the mail, feeds mochi to everyone to bring them under its control and then... what? What was its plan for after it took control of everyone? Maybe it might have wanted revenge on Ogerpon and us for beating/killing the Loyal Three, but the most we get of that is a minor interaction if you use Ogerpon against it. Maybe it saw Terapagos as competition with their "wish-granting abilities" (Terastal vs Toxic Chain)? Anything like that?
To be honest, people were asking for the events like Platinum's to come back. And that's exactly what we got.
An event tying up a loose end(s) to post game/DLC storylines...in the vaguest sense possible.
We also never learned how Oak found the stone tablet like the one on Route 224 or how Marley even knew about Shaymin. Nor did we ever learn about how Eldritch's son got cursed by Darkrai. To say nothing about Arceus who is a complete anomaly who isn't even mentioned as related to Dialga, Palkia and Giritina nor how the Celestia Ruins somehow depicts its implied summoning. All of these things we can only infer about at the time or by using the anime.
I can't really say it was bad or even average- Everyone loved the Platinum events and they did less than this. I just feel like its nostalgia talking again. Personally I think Gen 5 handled this better- You had separate, unimportant events that are nice side stories. NOT a resolution to an in game plot hook.
I disagree that the DLC was garbage. I loved it. True, some more detail about certain aspects would be nice but I was still able to enjoy the story and interactions. As for the aura around Kieren, might've been caused by something else or maybe it was something leftover from the writers changing their minds about the story. Maybe he was going to be possessed initially but later decided to drop that aspect. Who knows? Can get messy when they do this but at least it wasn't nearly as bad as the whole Dark Energy subplot they were building up in Mass Effect 2 which got completely dropped in Mass Effect 3.
I still need an explanation for the loyal three regardless of what
You put my boy Arven below Carmine and Penny in battling? That is outrageous.
The loyal three came back to life bc of the crystal from the crystal pool. Kieran had that mask/crystal when he did that. Not a aura. He had nothing to do with pecharunt
At least there was something that explained where did Pecharunt come from, unlike other mythicals that just got given to you with no explanation.
This story was literally the plot of Yo-kai watch 2
My guess was that at the start of Kieran's spiral, Pecharunt had probably possessed him without its shell. After all, it started near Peachy's where you're forced to lie to him, and the only time it could return to its shell was when he returned after the Indigo Disk events.
Besides that, the mochi it produces from its shell likely has different possessive properties than it does on its own.
The dance caught me so off guard tbh, they tryna do the chicken dance but not get copyright claimed
It’s criminal we didn’t get a chicken dance emote as a reward
Pennys father is Peony from the Sw/Sh DLC Crown Tundra
I dont know people, everyones just so angry at peacharunt but like... from what weve seen in the story he makes people chicken danca and thats it, I think Peacharunt isnt evil but chaotic, also probably the loyal three just killed the Ogerpon trainer cause as said, theyre ambitions are amplified alot, so probably after seeing someone in their way they would try to get their goal or what they wanted by any means (I love peacharunt and it could easily my fav mon)
Even though it was short event , Mochi Mayhem still good epilogue for Gen 9 DLC . I liked We could hangout and have adventure with Paldean friends and Kitakami pals (and if doing Club thingy in blueberry academy , it nice interaction we got between Paldean and Bluebrerry friends) . Also , Pecharunt were nice new mythical pokemon and seen it do literal "Mochi Mayhem" in Kitakami village .
I do hope there will one more DLC and that is basically Gradution for the player and nice conclusion for Gen 9.
Adven-tour...
WAIT A MINUTE!!!
Arven still feels that he doesn’t have any parents, despite us meeting OG Sada/Turo. He will apparently never forgive them. As for Nemona, just as predicted, rich parents, but still well-mannered herself. I still thought that Rose was Penny’s dad but that “annoying dad” persona is obviously Peony
one thing i found weird was with how much arven loves his mabosstiff he didnt snap out off the control of pecharunt after seeing his mabosstif faint
Ok is anyone gonna talk about how they CONFIRMED PENNYS DAD IS PEONY
Fun fact, Kieran’s team is actually a mix between is Kitakami and Indigo disk because he also has PorygonZ and Hydrapple
Carmine has some dialogue in the BB league clubroom along the lines of "I feel like there's some connection between Pecharunt and the loyal three, but I guess we'll never find out since Pokemon can't talk".
People always complain mythicals are just given away without any story. And now people are complaining that we got one? Just choose what you want.