John MacArthur: Your pastor has NO authority over you
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Only Jesus Christ has authority it's the word that has all power
That’s the humility I love to see in leadership!
He is right! They do not have authority
Pastors don't have specific Authority over people (outside of the limits and bounds of the church), they have INFLUENCE through biblically sound doctrine. And those will an open & receptive heart will follow
They have binding and loosing authority as long as their from the true church which is Catholic
1 Timothy 2:5, thank you JM!
God given us the authority,If we don,t have authority of God,how we can work and preacg,cast out devil and heal the sick people,Luke 9:1,2
In the name of JESUS
What you said about how parents should be using The Word as authority -- that really resonated and I really needed to hear this, Thank you so much, especially as a person who's endured a lifetime of abuse and who is a newer Christian. God bless!
It's not a real answer. The questioner is seemingly asking the limitations of verses like Hebrews 13:17. John obfuscates by saying he only has the authority the Bible gives him. Okay, then what authority does the Word give you? Answers like the one he provided are unhelpful and it's, in my opinion, a feigned humility. At the end of the day, John can interpret the text to mean that God gives him a lot of authority. Question asked, question remains unanswered.
You have spoken by a true non-believer. Nice choice of vocabulary to make yourself look important
How does it remain unanswered? Pastor John is saying that he has no authority beyond what the Holy Bible gives him.
@@cfisher11 I understand, but he doesn't define the authority the Bible gives him, where it starts and stops in the members of his congregation. For instance, how much authority does a pastor have in a person's personal life? Can they choose who you date or marry? Can they demand to see tax returns to verify tithing? Is their authority limited to ecclesiastical matters? It seems that was the heart of the question. The answer, "Only what the Bible gives me," is still vague.
@@chapsjj . If you are a believer and you think a pastor who has authority over you, then you've been reading a different gospel. The reason aposticy is so rampant in the Church today is because people were looking at the pastor for direction and not Jesus Christ and His word. On the Mount of Transfiguration, God told Peter " This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. Listen to Him" . If things are still vague to you then I would suggest you do as God told Peter. We've recently seen how many pastors have been caught in scandal which has left their congregation confused or lost. Stop looking at man and study. "Lean not to your own or your pastors understanding. Acknowledged Christ and He will direct your path.
Amen
I am under the Authority of the Church. The Church leads us home through the Grace of our Lord and Savoir Jesus Christ.
John MacArthur said he has no authority BEYOND Scripture. This means that whatever responsibilities he performs and whatever decisions he makes as a pastor is not arbitrary, not based on his opinion or anyone else's, but based solely on God's Word.
The New Testament churches exemplify the order and structure for churches today. God's Word is rich with instruction for elders, deacons and the congregation as a whole. This eliminates dependence on oneself and fortifies reliance on God, keeping God's children humble before the Lord. God is an organized God and His instruction eliminates confusion and disallows for any abuse when the church remains obedient to Him.
John MC Arthur is only giving his personal interpretation
The first time I heard that clip from John MacArthur I developed a great appreciation for him.
Amen 🤜🏼🤛🏼
1 Timothy 2:5
would have been nice for someone to have mentioned Heb.13:17 " Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you." and explained what that meant in light of this discussion. For instance, who is the "them" mentioned here that "watch for your souls"?
They and them are the bishops presbyters and deacons these are the three biblical offices
@@jesusrosary9067 Maybe. My point was that MacArthur should have addressed this verse in his answer.
@@stevemclendon827 he preaching a false gospel
@@jesusrosary9067 He wasn't preaching a 'gospel" at all...not in this video anyway.
@@stevemclendon827 He can't, because then he would have to admit that he is not a biblically appointed presbyter, but rather a usurper who was not appointed by a bishop, nor answerable to one.
Where was John MacArthur 52 years ago when our narcissistic pastor was telling young people who they could marry and who they could not marry. He would put young people together and break up engagements and tell them it was the Lord’s will. He put one couple together, and the young woman was supposed to cure him, and turn his desires to women, and not to men. The engagement was arranged, the marriage was arranged, and she had no idea what was going on. This sort of thing went on constantly but the biggest disgrace was the church finances.
MacArthur spoke the truth: He has no authority, because he is not a pastor. No one laid hands on him to give him authority over God's Church; he is a self-appointed hireling.
biggest problem for married men is their hiding behind their wives , and their aversion to serve single persons in the church after 9-5 , its the biggest problem in organized religion, plz like
The Word of God is the final authority over the life of the people
Well, thank you. I already know that. It's good to hear, though. 😊
Jesus is the head of the church
Than you must ask the congregants to give their opinion and have time for Q&A so that they are reassured of every word that proceeded from your mouth.
My understanding is that John told a member to go back to her abusive husband. Has he admitted his wrongdoing and asked for her forgiveness? Did he justify his biblical position?
Do pastors apologize when they give bad advice? An unwillingness to ask forgiveness is an abuse of authority.
1 COR 4:6-21 - This is an emotionally charged peroration to the discussion about divisions. It contains several exhortations and statements of Paul’s purpose in writing (cf. 1 Cor 4:6, 14-17, 21) that counterbalance the initial exhortation at 1 Cor 1:10.
[4:6] That you may learn from us not to go beyond what is written: the words “to go” are not in the Greek, but have here been added as the minimum necessary to elicit sense from this difficult passage. It probably means that the Corinthians should avoid the false wisdom of vain speculation, contenting themselves with Paul’s proclamation of the cross, which is the fulfillment of God’s promises in the Old Testament (what is written). Inflated with pride: literally, “puffed up,” i.e., arrogant, filled with a sense of self-importance. The term is particularly Pauline, found in the New Testament only in 1 Cor 4:6, 18-19; 5:2; 8:1; 13:4; Col 2:18 (cf. the related noun at 2 Cor 12:20). It sometimes occurs in conjunction with the theme of “boasting,” as in 1 Cor 4:6-7 here.
[4:8] Satisfied…rich…kings: these three statements could also be punctuated as questions continuing the series begun in v. 7. In any case these expressions reflect a tendency at Corinth toward an overrealized eschatology, a form of self-deception that draws Paul’s irony. The underlying attitude has implications for the Corinthians’ thinking about other issues, notably morality and the resurrection, that Paul will address later in the letter.
[4:9-13] A rhetorically effective catalogue of the circumstances of apostolic existence, in the course of which Paul ironically contrasts his own sufferings with the Corinthians’ illusion that they have passed beyond the folly of the passion and have already reached the condition of glory. His language echoes that of the beatitudes and woes, which assert a future reversal of present conditions. Their present sufferings (“to this very hour,” v. 11) place the apostles in the class of those to whom the beatitudes promise future relief (Mt 5:3-11; Lk 6:20-23); whereas the Corinthians’ image of themselves as “already” filled, rich, ruling (1 Cor 4:8), as wise, strong, and honored (1 Cor 4:10) places them paradoxically in the position of those whom the woes threaten with future undoing (Lk 6:24-26). They have lost sight of the fact that the reversal is predicted for the future.
[4:14-17] My beloved children: the close of the argument is dominated by the tender metaphor of the father who not only gives his children life but also educates them. Once he has begotten them through his preaching, Paul continues to present the gospel to them existentially, by his life as well as by his word, and they are to learn, as children do, by imitating their parents (1 Cor 4:16). The reference to the rod in 1 Cor 4:21 belongs to the same image-complex. So does the image of the ways in 1 Cor 4:17: the ways that Paul teaches everywhere, “his ways in Christ Jesus,” mean a behavior pattern quite different from the human ways along which the Corinthians are walking (1 Cor 3:3).
[4:18-21] 1 Cor 4:20 picks up the contrast between a certain kind of talk (logos) and true power (dynamis) from 1 Cor 1:17-18 and 1 Cor 2:4-5. The kingdom, which many of them imagine to be fully present in their lives (1 Cor 4:8), will be rather unexpectedly disclosed in the strength of Paul’s encounter with them, if they make a powerful intervention on his part necessary. Compare the similar ending to an argument in 2 Cor 13:1-4, 10.
So, why do you get to preach every week? What if I wanted to preach at your church? If no one has authority in the church, then there is chaos. God has given us the five fold ministry so there would be authority in the Church- see Ephesians 4 and Romans 13
He said he has no authority outside of the scriptures and God is the authority of scriptures.
@@JohnSmith-zo6ir So, what if someone finds a scripture that supports their poor behavior? Or what if there is a disagreement between Pastors? Or between two theologians? Or how do you explain Acts 15:28? “It seemed right to us and the Holy Spirit…”
@@JoshAlicea1229 Give examples using scriptures where this has happened, not "what ifs". You can cut it any way you want, the scriptures are the final authority, not pastors. John MacArthur does painstakingly detailed expositional teaching on the bible Sola Scriptura and including the Greek translations. The "what ifs" John MacArthur answers using the text, which is the final authority.
You let the Holy Spirit take control
You are right! The Bible never shows a one man show like we see today! There was no pastor in charge of the service! Every member was free to share their gift or a song or a word. Paul was teaching them to do it orderly ! No top down authority either
Solo escritura
Catholics pay attention
He has the God-given authority to preach God's word.
All of us do!🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻✝️✝️✝️
Of course the elder’s authority is only as much as God’s word gives him, and we also have the priesthood of the believer. However, God’s word says in Hebrews 13:17: “Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as to those who will have to give an account.” Obviously absolute authority is the stuff cults are made of. However, one of the big problems in evangelicalism nowadays is the consumer type mentality of folks who demonstrate little respect for the man of God in the pulpit rightly preaching the word of God.
pastors setting up boundaries , using the word boundaries all the time . Jesus never said the word boundaries, he received everyone all the time , never said no
About a century and a half after Jesus built his Church, against which the gates of hell will never prevail (Matt.
16:18), a man named Irenaeus, the bishop of Lyons, took it upon himself to list, in order of succession, all the bishops who had thus far succeeded Peter as bishop of Christ's Church in Rome:
“The blessed apostles, then, having founded and built up the Church, committed into the hands of Linus the office of the episcopate.... To him succeeded Anacletus; and after him, in the third place from the apostles, Clement was allotted the bishopric.... To this Clement there succeeded Evaristus.
Alexander followed Evaristus; then, sixth from the apostles, Sixtus was appointed; after him, Telephorus, who was gloriously martyred; then Hyginus; after him, Pius; then after him, Anicetus. Soter having succeeded Anicetus, Eleutherius does now, in the twelfth place from the apostles, hold the inheritance of the episcopate.” [Against Heresies, 3:3:3.]
As a bishop in what is now France, why would Irenaeus have such concern with the history of the Church in Rome? He tells us, "For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority." [Ibib., 3:3:2.] Later he writes of those twelve successors to Peter:
“In this order, and by this succession, the ecclesiastical tradition from the apostles, and the preaching of the truth, have come down to us. And this is most abundant proof that there is one and the same vivifying faith, which has been preserved in the Church from the apostles until now, and handed down in truth. [Ibib., 3:3:3.]”
These few words of Irenaeus are rich with information that should be important to everyone who desires to be a disciple in Christ's Church. First, they attest to the importance of the successor to Peter's office as bishop of Rome. The Church of Rome has "preeminent authority" that "every church should agree with." Historically, we know Peter's successor to be the pope of the Catholic Church and his office to be the papacy.
Second, "by this succession, the ecclesiastical tradition from the apostles" comes down to us. In the Catholic Church, we have come to call this Sacred Tradition, or sometimes, as it comes "from the apostles," apostolic Tradition.
Finally, by Irenaeus's words "one and the same vivifying faith... preserved in the Church," we can know with certainty that, by adhering to Sacred Tradition, we are embracing the one, true, life-giving Christian faith.
ExplorIng the early Church-from Christ to Irenaeus and beyond to the early fourth century, Papal and apostolic succession, Sacred Tradition, the Magisterium of the Church, and much more will come to life through early Christian writings, the Church Fathers, and Church councils. We witness the handing on, as Christ intended, of the authentic deposit of faith in Christ's one, true Church, the Catholic Church.
People need authority in our flesh or it runs us rampant with sin. We need good pastors unafraid to teach obedience to the word, to teach their congregations how to live according to Christ. This teaching is sure to reel in the masses of people wanting to live according to how they feel today, but it’s deceptive and misleading.
While I agree with much of this. Most of it ear tickling food for rebellion. God designates order in the heavens and in the affairs of mankind. He has given dominion of the earth to mankind and if we want to manage the earth in His likeness then order will follow and there is no order when there is no authority. Jesus Himself didn’t count equality with God something to be grasped despite His own value. If we want our children to be under our spiritual protection they will be required to willingly acknowledge authority. If a woman wants her efforts to build up her family then she needs to be under the authority of her husband. If you don’t want to be under your pastors authority then find another Pastor that you can submit to so you can be blessed by the harmony of righteous authority.
Right? Protestantism is the Wild West these days.
This video does more harm than good and in my opinion is a textbook example of false humility. My understanding of God given authority is this: The purpose of any given authority is to fulfill a given responsibility. If pastors did not have authority in the church then they would have no responsibility in the church. The fact is, they do have a God given responsibility and God has also given them the necessary authority to fulfill their obligations to the church. That being said, they should only use their authority for the edification and protection of the church in the pursuit of fulfilling the great commandment and great commission.
They must go by the by-laws and church constitution, end of your comment.
For the parental piece, this is utter garbage.
The bible "Children obey your parents...."
Its wise to teach your children why, but teaching them to defy authority unless they understand is demonic.
Parents are given authority in the bible to raise their children.
The Bible doesn't say we are our pastor's children.
@@Republican_Banana did you watch the video? The video goes on to say parents have no authority over children. Pastors are a different story.
@@r.l.shawver6165 sorry I misread your last line thinking you were saying pastors have authority to raise their children, as in people in church being their "children".
@@Republican_Banana no worries. I get it. :)
Women if you aren't married, men have no power over you,didn't the Bible say women submit to your husband, doesn't that verse exclude single women,The Bible is so deep Preachers are misinterpreting it,it says man is the head of the household
This quack is cracking up.
Stop telling your pastor everything. Trust me they told somebody (bodies) else. Plus they like to keep your name in mud to make them feel good about themselves
While I love you guys and John MacArthur, I wholeheartedly disagree. Yes the pastor has a degree of authority as one who shepards the flock and is a minister of the word, being faithful with the word. Obviously it is not much authority, but it isn't absolutely zero.
Having Scripture alone as your guide doesn't negate the existence of the authority, the word of Christ is that authority that they have been given. (I am not a pastor, so I'm not just defending some authority I would’ve had. I probably won't become one either, but rather just be faithful to Christ.)
Scripture also says there are times for excommunication of an individual, thus there is some authority.
Use the Lord God authority in a godly manner. Outside of that, they’re crooked teachers of the gospel
The problem that protestants have is the same as Mormonism based on the following 3 arguments. (1) Mormons (Latter-Day Saints, or LDS) believe that after the death of the last Apostle, there was a “Great Apostasy.” Priesthood authority ceased, doctrine began to degenerate, and the true Gospel was lost (necessitating its “restoration” by Joseph Smith in the 19th century). (2) The vast majority of protestants reject multiple doctrines that were believed unanimously by ancient Christians, beginning with the very first Church Fathers who were discipled by the Apostles themselves. Specifically, these protestants reject three key doctrines: a. Baptismal regeneration (how we become Christians); b. Apostolic succession (how the Church is governed); and c. The sacrifice of the Eucharist (how Christians worship). (3) Therefore, whether they realize it or not, most protestants believe in a “Great Apostasy” theory of history that is virtually identical with that of the LDS. If all Christians of which we have any record-including the disciples of the Apostles-were unanimously wrong about how we become Christians, how the Church is governed, and how we worship as Christians (the “Three Doctrines”), there is no more fitting description of this massive falling away than a “Great Apostasy.” This necessarily means that creatures (the protestant “reformers,” or the LDS’s “prophet” Joseph Smith) outperformed the Creator, since their “gospels” and “churches” have now in one form or another lasted for centuries, whereas when Jesus originally established them, they fell apart immediately.
In the writings of the Church Fathers every time they spoke about heresy and heretics, they were describing Protestantism. Protestantism is all over the place on the different positions. You can’t speak about the Protestant position on something, except perhaps in the form of a negative, like they’re contrary to the Catholic Church, they’re contrary to the Roman Pontiff. But the methods, the means, by which Protestants arrive at their theological conclusions were common in virtually all the heresies and the heretics that the Fathers talk about.
Parents have the authority over their children because parents are ones who raised their children. Pastors do not and did not spend a single centavo for their members.
Mine does,consistently, and so does any under Christ’s anointing
@@3girlzalltheglory574 What? are you crazy?
He’s lying, Period!!
He has no authority because he has no apostolic succession
Only the holy Catholic and apostolic church does
And hence spiritual tyranny...
Because when Jesus said my sheep hear my voice he meant the popes voice. Doubt it
@@fvrjohn14 the pope has the keys that was given to Peter
Oh please
@@jhq9064 your welcome
1 John 2:27, "But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, AND YE NEED NOT THAT ANY MAN TEACH YOU: but as the SAME ANOINTING teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it HATH taught you, ye shall abide in him."
Matthew 23:8-9, "But be ye not called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; AND ALL YE ARE BRETHREN. And call NO MAN your father UPON THE EARTH: for one is your Father, WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.