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Gas Fireplace 101 - Vented, Vent-Free & Direct Vent Gas Fireplaces Explained
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- čas přidán 13. 11. 2022
- Which type of gas fireplace is best? Rob talks us through the differences between ventless, vented and direct-vent gas fireplaces.
Do you need a gas insert or just gas logs? In this video, we discuss the pros and cons of each one and how they operate to help you decide which one is best for your situation.
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You made this really easy to understand. My husband and I moved into a house that has a direct vent insert, but I didn't understood what that meant or the advantages/disadvantages. Now I do. I appreciate that you showed the vent pipes and air exchange box. This video was very helpful for our situation.
Glad I could help!
This video was straight to the point and helped me decide by the end of the video. Thank you!
Awesome, glad I could help!
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Thx for the great info! Just starting on this journey, and will follow for more help. 👍
Thank you. This is a great video with lots of useful information.
This was so helpful!!
Glad we could help!
I'm not criticizing I think it's a good video I appreciate it thanks
We took out our broken gas insert to be surprised to find that is wasnt an insert at all. So deciding between vent and direct vent
Can you tell me about odor that a ventless gas fireplace can have? Thanks
Vent less offers great heating ability and very cozy. However - wood burning inserts have so much more charm. Therefore, I will be adding a vent less wood burning fire insert for the best of both worlds!
Not sure what you mean. There are vented and non-vented. What is the unit that offers best of both worlds? What is it called? I have a wood burning FP. I like the look of the vented set, they look more realistic, but the ventless provides more eat.
Very helpful
I have ventfree logs in a wood burning fireplace the heat comes out but also goes up and heats the underside of the wooden mantel as well as up the wall. How can I insert a blower to direct the heat into the room
A blower might help a little bit but the better option would be to put a hood on your fireplace. That will help push the heat away from your mantel. Either a universal one or you can have someone custom make one for you.
Great content. I learned something. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I don't get it; one gas fire makes dangerous levels of CO and so it has to be vented up a chimney, yet another gas fire somehow doesn't need venting up a chimney.
What is the difference between the gas fires that makes one emit dangerous levels of CO and the other one safe levels of CO?
very informative. We had our home built 4 years ago and they put what I think is a direct vent fireplace. It has a blower inside and a metal box on the outside of the house. Just curious as to what gasses are emitted from the outside box. I'm considering enclosing it with a glass greenhouse style enclosure so I don't have to carry outdoor plants inside during the winter. I thought if it emitted CO2 that would be perfect for the plants and might exhaust some heat as well to keep things from freezing. Would that be a safe project or would it reduce the intake air or create a gas-filled environment that would kill the plants. Thanks for any info.
I have a wall insert gas heater but I am curious if I can switch to a fireplace look with a mantle and not need a chimney or anything? It’s in the middle of my house and on the other side is a kitchen sink so I have to be careful of what I do.
Without seeing a picture and knowing all of the information, it sounds like you can do a vent free fire box, either free-standing with a mantel, built into the wall, or with a wall built out. You won't need a vent or chimney with these.
Here are some examples of boxes. whitemountainhearth.com/products/vent-free/vail-fireplaces/
How about carbon monoxide levels regarding ventless units.
Would you be replacing the oxygen with monoxide ?.
Does the 1st few inches of the flame's color indicate anything like too much oxygen or not so it doesn't create soot?
With a Vent-Free Fireplace can I build my own mantle/surround then have the vent-free fireplace installed?? OR if I have a 3D model of a mantle/surround can your company build it to work with the vent-free fireplace?
Yes you can. You just want to make sure the top opening of your fireplace is a safe distance away from your mantel. The distance all depends on how deep your mantel is and if your unit has a hood or not.
@@SpecialtyGasHouse THANKS! I would refer to the manufacturer specifications as to how much clearance is required between inner mantle sides, bottom, top and rear before install. With my DIY plans it calls for ceramic tiles on all inner areas surrounding the unit. ( ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Specialty Gas House. )
I drove up to Columbus to check out the ventless that you had there. I need help. I don’t think my sales guy there would be able to do a design. Any way I can get help?
Thanks for the video. How much heat do vent free logs give?
They are 99.9% efficient, they provide a lot of heat!
to open or close the flue... I have a doublesided (see thru) vented woodburning fireplace with a gas firestarter. We don't burn logs because its hard to keep the smoke from blowing thru instead of going up the flue pipe, besides its messy. We instead have fireplace glass with the special burner. Has worked great for 16 years, lovely. My question is, do we have to open the flue? We have hanging glass plates as firescreens, but there is a gap around the edges for air to come in/exchange. Our flue is a pain to open and close, so I would like to keep it closed since we aren't burning wood. This would also help keep out dust, and may direct more heat into the living areas. It does not have a pilot lite. It has a key we turn, and light with a match.
If it is a vented gas fireplace, you have to make sure the flue is completely open when in use. If you do not you will be getting CO into your home.
Great information. We have a majestic vent free fireplace and just fired it up this year. Never used it before after living in our home for six years. One thing I notice tonight is the wood mantle gets very hot. Should I be worried about a very hot mantle? Can I add deflector kit to direct the heat away from the mantle? Thanks
The worst thing that could happen is it could discolor your mantel or possibly bubble up the paint if it is painted. Our company makes custom hoods if you are local to Columbus, Ohio, but they also make universal hoods that you might be able to put on your fireplace to deflect the heat away from the mantel.
Really good info. Maybe a question for the installer, but does a vent-free log set in an existing wood-burning fireplace require the key system in wall/floor or can it be piped up directly to the gas line (with likely a shutoff valve between the gas pipe and flex connection)? Thanks!
Vent-free does not require a wall/floor key shutoff. However, every gas fireplace does require an emergency shutoff valve within 6'. But you are correct, you can put the emergency shutoff valve inside the fireplace between the gas line and the gas burner.
I should say those are the requirements for Columbus, Ohio. It may be different where you live.
@@SpecialtyGasHouse Very helpful. I'll talk it over with my installer!
Do you know of an old gas fireplace with the grates being rebuilt or converted into a gas log fireplace?
I would need to know more information or see some pictures.
Do you need 110V outlet inside the firebox for the igniter/controls for any of the options you showed?
Vented, vent-free & direct-vent millivolt gas fireplaces do not require 110v. If you are adding a blower to a direct-vent, then you would need power run to it.
So in terms of maximum efficiency, and throwing out the most heat should I lose electricity during the winter, and how much oxygen is being pulled out of my room( and how much is gas contaminating my breathing air) which system is the best?
Vent-free is 99% heat efficient so if you are looking for heat this is by far your best option. It also does not require power so it will become your emergency heat source when the power goes out.
They burn 99.9% clean so you do not have to worry about any harmful fumes and they do use room air for combustion but it is nominal. Every vent-free has an oxygen depletion sensor on the pilot assembly so if it ever gets below a certain level of oxygen in the room the system will safely shutdown.
Bought a house with a regency. It has a remote bird gas, it’s built in. No manual, no idea how to turn on. Remote doesn’t turn it on. Don’t know model number. Can’t see a power switch on wall etc.
The pilot may need to be lit first. Do you see a little blue flame in the fireplace?
Has anyone used two 4" inch duct, in place of, one 6" ( dual flow/coaxial)? I want to use 4" chimney out thru the roof and 4" for intake air that will come in from a knee wall. Problem is, I can't go straight out thru the knee wall because the window ledge is below the Stove exhaust. A 6" flue looks stupid on my Hearthstone fireplace and blocks the view out the window.
Sooo… I have a fire place that has a gas line in it. But there is no vent. It’s solid brick all the way around too and bottom. Can I put a vent less log set in it? Any help would be great. Would love to have something in it.
If it is firebrick, then you would be able to put a ventless gas log in there.
I have a gas insert in a wood burning fireplace remote controlled, home came like that. Have a co2 detector in room have had it on with the flute closed nothing on the detector for an hour. Does it always have to have a open flute?
It all depends on what type of gas fireplace you purchased. Are they vent-free gas logs or vented?
@SpecialtyGasHouse just found the paperwork lol, reading is fundamental! Top page states "unvented gas log heater or vented decorative appliance. Model deb20, deb 24, deb 30
Looks like I have the same fireplace. It was running then just stopped. It won’t start up again. When I hit the switch, I can see the igniter working and sparks, but it’s just not lighting the fire. Do you think this replacement would fix that or do I have another issue?
Depending on what kind of fireplace you have, it might just need some routine service.
I would love the vented/gas set up to put into my existing fire place. Do you ship to west Texas?
We do not do any shipping. Come visit us in Columbus, Ohio!
Not in California with gas prices up 300%
I am looking at the vent free style but have questions.
I have a blank wall that I am framing up, I want the fire recessed in the wall with a floating mantle. Do I purchase an insert and a set of vent free gas logs or is it sold as one unit?
Also is there any blower or power requirements (power outages will the fire still work)? Thanks
You would purchase a universal vent-free firebox and then a gas log & burner to go inside the box, or you can get a whole system unit that is sold as one unit. If you do the universal box you will have more options to choose from. Both are usually right around the same price.
Vent-free does not require any power, so they will continue to work when the power goes out. If you add a blower you will need to run power to the unit. I usually advise against blowers though because you don't really need them with vent-free since they are already 99.9% efficient.
My chimney doesn't have a cap. Would I have to get one with a vented unit?
I would have a chimney sweep come out to inspect your fireplace. They should be able to install a chimney cap and as long as everything else is okay, you could go with any of these options.
What about zero clearance gas fireplaces?
Is it normal to smell gas when opening the wall valve using the wall key?
What kind of gas fireplace do you have? Do you light it with a lighter?
Does a zero clearance gas fireplace require a hearth?
No it does not.
I have a ventless. System in my wood burning fireplace. It smells. Is there nothing that can be done other than cracking the flu? Do the newer ones smell?
Depending on how old your ventless system is and the brand, it could give off more of a smell than the newer American made ones. The smell with vent-free is usually very faint with most people if it is a good quality unit. However, vent-free does draw in room air, so it will draw in any strong smells that are in the room. So if you are burning a strong smelling candle or have air fresheners in the room, that smell will mix with the gas and release an unpleasant kerosene-ish type smell.
If your unit is older and you don't have any air fresheners or candles in the room, then you might benefit from purchasing a newer unit.
They smell like products of combustion. No getting around it. Ventless = bad
I looked at a gas fireplace, today.
We have a house from the early 90s that has a gas fented. Fireplace and we put real wood in there is that safe
In order to burn wood safely in there, you will need to remove the vented burner and fake logs. You can either cap the gas line in your fireplace or add a log lighter bar to use the gas to assist in starting your wood fire.
Then I would definitely have a chimney sweep come out to ensure there are not any issues with your chimney flue and to make sure it is venting properly.
Are ventless safe from a carbon monoxide standpoint?
Yes, they are! They burn 99.9% clean and only release trace amounts of carbon monoxide. They will produce anywhere from 0-10 ppm which is completely safe. CO does not become dangerous until about 30-50+ ppm. It is always smart to have a CO detector near the fireplace as with any gas appliance but it should never go off.
@@SpecialtyGasHouse Thanks, I hugely appreciate your response
Hey where is the next video about hearth demensions? Do you have contact information can I call you?
Are you talking about how to measure the inside of your fireplace to figure out which size gas logs you need?
Won’t be using my vented gas fire place until they lower the gas prices.
Replace it with vent-free, it uses 1/3 of the amount of gas and they are 99.9% efficient, which means your furnace will be working less.
Brandon has you in his sights!
I’m more confused now after the video then before
Hi Jamie, what questions do you have?
Really throws some heat.did not get the blower I see no reason it needs it with the way it heats the rooms
Especially with vent-free, a blower is not necessary because of how much heat they put out.
Should've brushed that carbon off your vented before the video
All vented gas logs will get carbon on them since the flame touches the logs. We like to display it like that so customers understand that this will happen to their logs. Otherwise they get upset when it starts happening to their set.
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