5 Ways to connect more Pads to an E-drum Kit

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  • This video is about expanding an electronic drum set with countless trigger pads.
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    1. Roland Percussion Set
    Some specific Roland modules like TD-8, 9, 10, 12, 20, 30 and most likely the TD-50 have a MIDI input and feature Percussion Sets that are triggered by an external slave module. Just connect the “Midi out” of your Alesis Trigger IO, Roland TMC-6 or TD-4 to the “Midi input” of your Roland master module. The slave module becomes a trigger interface and sends plain midi signals to the master. The master takes the signals and generates a sound out of its own instrument selection.
    This way it is possible to connect a lot more pads. The secondary module has to be set to MIDI Channel 11, but this is not possible with every module. The Roland TD-3, for example, does not feature MIDI Channel 11 and can therefore not be used as a secondary module.
    The slave modules sounds are uninteresting, as it is only a plain midi converter in such a setup. It does not transfer audio signals, but Midi signals.
    The Percussion Set is basically an instrument selection of the master module, which can be modified independently from the main drum kits. All master module instruments can be assigned and triggered through the slave module.
    This TD-20x, for example, has 8 percussion sets that are independent of the main kits and do not get changed when scrolling through your drum kits.
    Sadly the Roland TD-11, 15 and 25 do not feature a MIDI Input nor a Percussion set. They can only be slaves, not masters.
    Hack:
    The 2 chained modules can be connected to a PC or Mac via the MIDI or USB cable of the master module. The whole setup can now trigger EZdrummer2.
    2. Drumsplitters
    Some Roland modules (show the modules) can be extended with drumsplitters. You find them in the form of y-cables or boxes with 3 jack inputs. These devices split the 2 zones of a dual zone pad into 2 mono pads. The drum splitter is not a regular y-cable. It has to have a built-in 100K Ohm resistor to be able to work.
    Both, toms and cymbal become mono triggers after splitting. That means there is no choke function available for the cymbal pad and it is also not possible to hit both split pads at the same time because the module recognises this as a rim shot.
    A lot of trigger adjustments have to be made in the module to use drumsplitters. Therefore it is but still only a compromise, but also a nice and cheap solution to add extra pads.
    Drumsplitters do not work for physical reasons with TD-1, 3 and 6 as these modules are wired differently. And I would not use them for software reasons with TD-4 and TD-25. Those 2 do not allow you to assign the pad zones independently, which is vital to even use a drumsplitter.
    3. Module into Module
    Almost every E-drum module has a stereo input for MP3-Players. Connect the headphone out of the second module to the MP3 input of the primary module. This works with all kinds of e-drum modules. You can also connect both modules to a mixing desk. Same result, you could end up with different module sounds if you don’t use identical modules though. This is a low budget version that serves the purpose.
    4. EZdrummer2
    Ezdrummer2 and SD2.0 allow you to connect 2 or more modules simultaneously via MIDI interface or direct USB to your PC. I plugged this TD-30 via direct USB into my Mac and an additional TD-20X via MIDI Cable into a Tascam MIDI interface, which is connected to the Mac via USB cable as well. The TD-30 Module driver and Tascam interface driver have to be installed and that’s it. Both modules trigger one digital drum kit.
    This method works with any e-drum module.
    5. ESI Midimate eX
    The ESI Midimade eX is a special MIDI to USB adapter that has 2 Midi ports on one side and a USB plug on the other side. You can connect 2 modules to your PC and trigger any drum sample software with both modules simultaneously. This would be ideal for TD-11 or 15 users.
    There is a guy on youtube who built a huge metal e-drum kit with 2x Roland TD-12 modules. He uses a MIDImate. The link is in the description.

Komentáře • 259

  • @65Drums
    @65Drums Před 7 lety +113

    This was a GREAT video!

  • @essjay2910
    @essjay2910 Před 4 lety +4

    I’m a bit late I know but great tips here. I use your no.1 tip with the Alesis Strike MultiPad together with the Roland TD4. It works much better going through an extra device than using the external triggers on the SMP.

  • @cosmokramer1213
    @cosmokramer1213 Před 2 lety

    My heart sank when you said the TD25 didnt have a percussion set... but then you said you can connect via the headphone out and mix in.. and I rejoiced. Thankyou for this extremely helpful info!

  • @MikeLuke
    @MikeLuke Před 7 lety +12

    Fantastic video, helps me a lot. Thanks for uploading and sharing this information. And you're probably the only guy in the community being so decadent to use a TD20x as a slave module. ;)

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums Před 7 lety +1

      only the best ;)

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety

      I only have this TD-20X for testing at the moment:) But I am glad to have it, so I can test it both ways:)

  • @mistermaron
    @mistermaron Před 3 lety

    Great video ! Just one question, is it possible to plug a multipad like spd sx into Mix IN port of the TD 20 module to allow more pads and sounds to the kit ?

  • @northbayride8730
    @northbayride8730 Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you!!! Great video!!

  • @fuzzyheadted
    @fuzzyheadted Před 5 lety

    I have a TD-3, can I replace drum pads with pads from other models?
    Also, can I switch out the drum module with one from another model? Excellent video!

  • @daveseemerollin6357
    @daveseemerollin6357 Před 5 lety

    If I slaved a ddti to a td9 module, would I still get velocity curves witb ddti pads? Awesome video.

  • @nirniro1
    @nirniro1 Před 4 lety

    Wow thank you for that video
    It’s amazing

  • @robertlucas9867
    @robertlucas9867 Před 7 lety +1

    Great video.

  • @KitCatStudio
    @KitCatStudio Před 3 lety

    This is big help! Tnx! Looking for a way to expand my tm6pro module , as most inputs are already split and used. I want to add some extra cymbals, I understand this demands stereo inputs, because cymbal pads are three zoned? Even If not I still need some more inputs, what is the most recommended device to add to this setup?
    And lastly, I have an Roland spd30 laying around, can I use this device via midi to create more inputs (connect cymbals or pads to it as no send midi info to the module) through tm6pro and finally to sd3 ? Tnx!!!

  • @Rusli1659LPSoldier
    @Rusli1659LPSoldier Před 4 lety +1

    4:36 do I know that music background you used? I need to know the name.

  • @JoseMTamez
    @JoseMTamez Před 5 lety +1

    This was a great video. I just bought Superior Drummer 3 and I didn't know the best way to connect both my TD30 and SPDX to my laptop. I would have figured it out but the video saved me some time and it actually provided me another of doing it. Option one is to connect both via USB into my laptop and option two is to use my double MIDI/USB cable into my laptop, which would use only one USB port. Thanks for the video.

  • @YUDI180291
    @YUDI180291 Před 4 lety +2

    How to connect the extra cymbal to the TD-1 module? Does the cable snake have an extra cable?

  • @edrumsense
    @edrumsense Před 7 lety +4

    Very nice and well explained video, as a TD-3 owner I never new about the percussion sets capability. I can say that the drum splitter works for the TD-3 but only in the snare input, so as you said, is a compromise, you will need to get rid of the snare rimshot

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety

      Well I know after watching your video:) The splitter is usually made for leftover zones like a tom rim IMO, but it is cool what you got out of the TD-3.

    • @josephkunath4173
      @josephkunath4173 Před 2 lety

      Thank you

  • @victorbastos5859
    @victorbastos5859 Před 6 lety

    In the video you use the TD-4 to connect to the TD-9 through the percussion set. I presume the TD-9 can also be used as a slave to another TD-9 (master). Is it right? Many thanks!

  • @prototheist
    @prototheist Před rokem

    Great Video

  • @alexandregoestohollywood144

    My friend, I'm from Brazil, could you send me the link or guide me on how to expand more Pads on the Roland TD25 module. Thank you.

  • @heldertiago124
    @heldertiago124 Před 7 lety +3

    I use the 4th way, with two Alesis Trigger IO modules and Ezdrummer 🙌

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety +2

      Nice! Via USB or via Midi cable?

  • @matthewkwong3365
    @matthewkwong3365 Před 6 lety

    Have you guys tried to connect an extra module / trigger interface to Yamaha DTX module and Alesis module through MIDI cable like how you do that in Roland V Drum Module? Does that work?
    Also, can I make use of the usb port (same as the printer port) to connect an extra module?

  • @nelsonmorais405
    @nelsonmorais405 Před 6 lety +1

    Good morning it works. Thanks for your help , now my drumm kit it's awesome with 18 pieces regards Nelson Morais

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety +1

      18 piece??? :D Please send a picture, I would love to see this beast.

  • @dwehr8458
    @dwehr8458 Před 4 lety

    question so if I use the Y splitter for my bass drum pads ...I I will get the same sound on both pads ... which is ideal ( for bass drum sound) using only one port correct

  • @miguelrodriguez-pineroriva6713

    I have a behringer xd8usb, how can I add pads and cymbals to it?

  • @ranna.
    @ranna. Před 2 lety

    Great Tutorial ...

  • @Melissa05121992
    @Melissa05121992 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi I have a Td4 how to add extra 1 pad for cowbell sound effect? Thanks 😊

  • @BalthazarMaignan
    @BalthazarMaignan Před 4 lety +1

    Does midi work if I use a mps 850 as master and a eagletone vds 400 as slave?

  • @tretaylor_
    @tretaylor_ Před 4 lety

    I have a urgent question. For the 4th example where you said I can use 2 drum modules for superior drummer. Do I have connect the second module through a MIDI interface for it to work or can I use my TD25 and TM1 modules straight USB to my MacBook?

  • @yousifdelvalle4162
    @yousifdelvalle4162 Před 3 lety

    SO EXCELLENT!!!

  • @hand123
    @hand123 Před 4 lety

    Hello. Where did you get the drum riser that your kit is sitting on? Thanks.

  • @francescoragazzini4323

    Thanks for this. But if I want to use just VST like Addictive Drums, and if my Master module have Midi in and out, and a slave expansion module have Midi out (like Alesis Trigger I/O), I could connect the two modules with Midi cable, connect the Midi out of my master to an external audio interface, and connect this to the PC via USB. This configuration could be OK?

  • @Xholeda
    @Xholeda Před 2 lety

    How do i add sounds to the new drum pads? I’m using a td-9, and I’m planning one getting either splitters, or a trigger iO, I have my td-9 connect via midi to a gear4music module acting as a slave module in order to send in midi.

  • @michaelviana
    @michaelviana Před 3 lety

    I would like to know if Cymbal OP-TD1C fits in the tube TD-11KV.

  • @KenjoMendez
    @KenjoMendez Před 4 lety

    Do these steps apply to Yanaha DTX Drums as well?

  • @Spagz
    @Spagz Před 8 měsíci

    Do you know if the TD27 has percussion sets?

  • @fernandoich138
    @fernandoich138 Před 4 lety

    Inquiry I have a 6kv TD module has Midi in and Midi out connections it is possible to insert record Kicks, drums, tones, cimbals sounds through plugins and connect my sets from my PC. Thanks!

  • @RobMonty248
    @RobMonty248 Před 4 lety

    Just to be sure before i do this. Can i hook the TD17 up to the TD4 with a midi cable, then use all the TD17 sounds like this video shows which is older and does not show the TD17 at all.. Then when i use the 1/4 outputs for live recording to the board, it all will work fine (using all TD17 sounds?) I have it set up independently but the TD17 can run sampled cymbals and i have tons of nicer sounds then the TD4....So right now they are just both running with outputs to the board, would be nicer to have two board stereo slots used and not 4, etc etc...
    Is it this same procedure as this video shows, just with my TD17 as the module and TD4 as the slave5? And or is there a guide for this somewhere that explains it more in depth as well??
    Thanks all!

  • @rebecaperalta5863
    @rebecaperalta5863 Před 3 lety

    Good video

  • @amandadal1965
    @amandadal1965 Před 3 lety

    Great video, thank you for sharing all this info with us! Do you know if it's possible to connect a slave module to a Roland TD-27? If so what would be the best slave option? I've tried using splitters with two CY12's but for some reason the "rim" pad cannot be hit in unison with the digital snare. Very frustrating.

    • @AmandaDalDrums
      @AmandaDalDrums Před 3 lety

      I figured it out! And it works great. If anyone's interested here's a tutorial: czcams.com/video/WI9jQRKtQTA/video.html

  • @yungtwiz
    @yungtwiz Před 3 lety

    Do you know if solution 5 would work with an alesis DM8?

  • @giannispan8129
    @giannispan8129 Před 3 lety

    Hello! I have the Roland td 17 kvx and I have already made an extension to a third crash (crash 3) covering the AUX socket on the td17. I want to make another extension to a second floor tom (Tom 4) and that's why I got the roland tm 2 which has two triggers slots. can you tell me if the tm 2 can be connected to the td17 with a midi out cable? Also sounds with the sd card can I add from td 17 to tm 2 ?

  • @demonocusmetalocus3558
    @demonocusmetalocus3558 Před 7 lety +1

    Good vid

  • @MH1110DE
    @MH1110DE Před 4 lety +1

    Well, acctually you can use drum splitters very well with other Brands aswell.

  • @harry_music9001
    @harry_music9001 Před 2 lety

    Is there anyway I can use a drum splitter in a module such as the millenium mps 850?

  • @victorbastos5859
    @victorbastos5859 Před 7 lety

    Great video. If I decide to use a slave module with my TD9 to use the percussion set, will I still be able to map the extra pads to a VST (EZ or AD for instance? Thanks a lot for your help.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety

      Victor Bastos Thanks! Yes you will, you can use the full chain with EZD2, as mentioned in the video. The TD-9 routes the additional Midi notes trough.

  • @maziu27
    @maziu27 Před 4 lety

    Does the alesis nitro work with trigger io or ddrum ddti

  • @redpoint6870
    @redpoint6870 Před 7 lety +1

    Great vid!! very usefull

  • @killersajmon
    @killersajmon Před 7 lety +4

    I am converting my acoustic kit to a triggered mesh-kit with Roland module and cymbal pads. This channel has really helped me learn more about Roland, noise eater platforms, mesh heads, triggers and lots more. Awesome! If there is something I would like to see in the future is a video on connecting midi out to the audio interface, and actually record drums to a pre-recorded song. Does it work well? Is there any latency issues when playing along and recording at the same time? What other options are there? //Simon from Sweden

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety +2

      Thanks, that means a lot to me! It does work well and it is really simple. You just use a DAW, the song on one track and the drum software in another midi track. That's it. But I am thinking about making a detailed EZD2 Setup which covers that aswell. Latency does not have to be an issue if you have either a MAC or the ASIO Driver installed.

    • @killersajmon
      @killersajmon Před 7 lety

      Great! Thanks for all the information.

  • @Drummergolfer427
    @Drummergolfer427 Před 3 lety

    But have you tested this method with a Yamaha DTX900/700 or DTXtreme, etc. etc. modules?

  • @3dprintingkid709
    @3dprintingkid709 Před rokem

    Will this work by connecting a crimson module and strike module (crimson ----> 5 PIN MIDI -----> Alesis Strike Module) using the slave technique?

  • @jocelynouimet6816
    @jocelynouimet6816 Před 3 lety

    Hi,, can i expanded my TD-12 with a TD-11 , i want to have more pads and cymbals...Thank you!!

  • @Sixfootdig
    @Sixfootdig Před 2 lety

    Can you split these at the trigger rather than the module? My set uses a wiring harness for most of the pads to tge midule

  • @sergioboni
    @sergioboni Před 6 lety

    Thanks for sharing this information. I have an TD-9. What is the cheaper option to use the percussion set function in it?

  • @drumstudiomonchengladbach8131

    What about the TD-7 module? Any suggestions?

  • @giannispan8129
    @giannispan8129 Před 3 lety

    Can the Roland TD17 be connected to the Roland tm 2 with a midi out cable so I can have the sounds of the TD17 on the tm2 directly with a midi out cable?

  • @brdrake765
    @brdrake765 Před 5 lety

    Hey! Awesome video! So I own a TD-17 and a TD-6. Could I connect those by using Midi? The 17 being the main brain and the 6 being the slave module?

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 5 lety

      You can connect the TD-17 as a slave to the TD-6 as master. But that wouldn't be ideal. Who wants the TD-6 sounds? :D

  • @yumei6968
    @yumei6968 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks a great video!!
    I have a td-17 module.Can I add more pads by using y-cables without "crash2" or "AUX" import?

  • @Rottingcorpseful
    @Rottingcorpseful Před 6 lety

    hey brother i have Ringway TD-90 II Can Add two Pads ? PLZ HELP I NEED THIS TOLD ME HOW ?

  • @joanchilet2954
    @joanchilet2954 Před 3 lety

    How can I check if my td-27 has a percussion set?

  • @bobbyjones2112
    @bobbyjones2112 Před 2 lety

    I have a TD27 will the TD17 work as a slave?

  • @Mustis91
    @Mustis91 Před 6 lety

    Hi! Thanks for the great video! I will get a yamaha dtx 700k from ebay next week . Is it possible to use the first method with that module? I'd get an alesis trigger io or something for it.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Alex Karl Not sure, I have never used such a module that intense. Check the user manual.

  • @williamalejandrotalaverape9213

    Can i connect an alesis dm6 with a yamaha dd75?

  • @lucasrorato
    @lucasrorato Před rokem

    Hello! How do I setup the percussion set? I have a TD9+TD6v(slave), but I can't find a way to solve the problem of some pads with same sounds... Please help me o/

  • @annomuller3607
    @annomuller3607 Před rokem

    does the TD 27 have the percussion set?

  • @drummerjfa1728
    @drummerjfa1728 Před 6 lety +2

    The TD-6v does have a percussion set and midi input. It also lets you choose the percussion set midi channel so you can use a TD-3 (which only sends on channel 10) as a slave module to trigger the percussion set on the TD-6v.
    Great video and channel, by the way.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      That's awesome. that makes the TD-6 actually a great module. Have you tried with a TD-3?

    • @drummerjfa1728
      @drummerjfa1728 Před 6 lety +1

      Vdrum Tips Yes, I have a TD-6v with a TD-3 as the slave module which I use as a back up to my main kit (TD-9 with a TD-4 as a slave module). I agree, the TD-6 is definitely a great module.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      That's nice to know. My next question is: How good is the VH-11 with the TD-6?

    • @drummerjfa1728
      @drummerjfa1728 Před 6 lety

      Vdrum Tips I don't think the TD-6 benefits from using a VH-11. That's why my main module is a TD-9.

  • @fraserp2377
    @fraserp2377 Před 7 lety +3

    Great video thanks, I wasn't aware of the midi pass through. Just 1 thing you can actually use a drum splitter with the TD4. You can split rim/head in the setup menu. I use one on my TD4 myself after making a cable with your excellent instruction video ;)

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety

      Can you split them? Good to know. What pad are you splitting?

    • @fraserp2377
      @fraserp2377 Před 7 lety

      I am splitting the snare, unfortunately the toms are single zone.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety

      Oh, ok, yeah that is a very big compromise to loose the rim of the snare.

  • @joeldanganan
    @joeldanganan Před 3 lety

    Does the TD 27 have a percussion set?

  • @mikeyama7277
    @mikeyama7277 Před 5 měsíci

    wouldn't you have delay when using the ESI Midimate eX?

  • @FelipeTorrents
    @FelipeTorrents Před 6 lety

    Can I chain a td-11 with a dm7 or dm10? both have midi in, making the td-11 slave and dm7/10 master. I couldn't find anywhere if this would work. thank you! love your videos

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Not sure how the Alesis Modules work

  • @jasonross1982
    @jasonross1982 Před 4 lety

    cool im runnning 2 mods together ie 2 kits one headphone out into the aux into the other it works great a roland td-4 into a nitro mesh kit i love it rhink ill add one more nitro kit to it haha simply cuz the kit is so cheap i use the nitro for the kick and snair sounds also the toms i use the roland for the hats n a xtra kick also i use both kits cymbals but the rolands ride

  • @apoesk21
    @apoesk21 Před 7 lety +1

    Nice video!
    Does the first solution with a slave module work with Toontrack software?
    All the best

    • @apoesk21
      @apoesk21 Před 7 lety +3

      OMG.. watch the video before commenting.... :D :D :D

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety

      Yes, it was mentioned:)

  • @vtrking5545
    @vtrking5545 Před 4 lety

    Hello. I hope that you are still monitoring the comments. But here goes. I have a TD50 kit and after watching your video I bought a TD4 module, as splitter cables seem buggy. I have joined them via midi and made sure that the TD4 module is on channel 11 midi. Now I'm stuck. I can't see anything in the Td50 instructions about percussion sets. So how do get this to work? Thank you.

  • @smitty78787878
    @smitty78787878 Před 6 lety

    Thanks for this video and info. So, I have a TD9 V2. Which module would be my best bet for using in conjunction with it? I use Addictive Drums VST exclusively and never use the onboard sounds. I'd like to add about three more pads and three or four more cymbals. Should I just look for a used TD-20 and slave them together? Thanks again.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Well you can add a TMC-6 or an Alesis Trigger IO. This will be cheaper than a TD-20.

    • @smitty78787878
      @smitty78787878 Před 6 lety

      True. I'd like to upgrade the main module a bit though and have access to positional sensing. The TD9 is a good module but I feel like it's a little dated. For instance, I don't get any response from MIDI values lower than 6 so very quiet playing simply doesn't trigger at all. This isn't an issue using the internal sounds but it IS an issue when triggering addictive drums. I've never been able to figure out why this happens. I hopeful that a more modern, robust module will help to iron out some of these little inconsistencies. A TD20 IS expensive. Perhaps a TD12 would be more cost effective.

  • @Gabby4637
    @Gabby4637 Před 7 lety +1

    Can My Roland TD11 Can Add two Pads one is Cy-12 as China another pad T3 Floor tom

  • @glebnovikov9858
    @glebnovikov9858 Před 6 lety

    Very helpful video, thanks! I see that TD-9 beats TD-11 functionally.But what to you think about TD-9 compared to TD-11 sound-wise? Which module produces more realistic and rich drum sounds?

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Gleb Novikov The sounds of TD-11 and 9 are almost identical. The TD-11 has this “Realistic trigger function” but there is not really a difference. I would always fo for the TD-9. It is a much better deal.

    • @glebnovikov9858
      @glebnovikov9858 Před 6 lety

      Thank you! Is it true that both modules have two extra inputs and you can add two fully functional extra pads or cymbals without need to use second module or splitters? So the 5 ways described in the video are needed only if you want to connect more than two extra pads?

  • @babaganoush7295
    @babaganoush7295 Před 7 lety

    Wow great video! I have a a roland td11 and i am trying to use an alesis io trigger but the triggers for the extra pad only triggers toms and not a cymbal that i want

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety

      The TD-11 has no trigger input, so you can only use the 2 with a software.

    • @babaganoush7295
      @babaganoush7295 Před 7 lety

      Vdrum Tips i use ezdrummer 2 for the td-11. Im hoping that the alesis io trigger will let me add on to the kit.

  • @emeraudex599
    @emeraudex599 Před 5 lety

    I own a Roland TD-3, I'd like to try to use percussion sets with it to expand the kit - would it work if I used the TD-3 as the master and the Alesis Trigger IO as the slave?

    • @squall6789
      @squall6789 Před 5 lety

      I was wondering the same thing. He said the TD3 cant output to the right midi channel to be the slave unit, but doesnt mention if it can be the master module. Did you end up finding a solution?

  • @radrums7362
    @radrums7362 Před 6 lety

    Great video, as always.
    May I ask you a question?
    I just bought a Roland TD-25KV, and plan to add more pads (1x11" and 1x14" triggera cymbals and 2xRoland BT-01. Planning to hook them to a Roland TM-2, output MIDI from the TD-25 to the TM-2, and connect it back to the TD-25 by aux port).
    I'm having a hard time finding Gibraltar hardware (or any other brand except expensive Roland stuff) to mount the additional TM-2 module.
    Do you have an idea on how I could mount the TM-2 to the TD-25KV rack, so it would be placed near the main module, and it would take as little space as possible in the rack?
    You're a very ingenious guy. I'd be interested in hearing your opinion, if you had the time.
    Thanks a lot!

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Why would you want to connect the TD25 midi out to the TM2 if the TM 2 has triggers connected? :) A Roland Rack Clamp is ideal, as the bigger metal rack clamps take too much space away. I would recommend to check ebay for a standard plastic Roland Rack clamp.

    • @radrums7362
      @radrums7362 Před 6 lety

      Thanks a lot for your answer and suggestion.
      "Why would you want to connect the TD25 midi out to the TM2 if the TM 2 has triggers connected?"
      The TD-25 module doesn't have MIDI in, only out. So, I won't be able to feed the TM-2 into the TD-25 mix. So what I need to do is to feed the TD-25 mix (MIDI out) into the TM-2 (MIDI in), and go from there.
      Or am I making a big mistake here?

  • @jurgenkrall4439
    @jurgenkrall4439 Před 5 lety

    Hy hello great video....i have an roland td8....can i use as the second an alesisdm10????
    Thanks for the help and sorry for my english....

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 5 lety

      Yes you can. The TD-8 has a percussion set. Deutsch geht auch:) Wenn du mehr Fragen hast, gerne eine Email an info@v-drumtips.com schreiben.

  • @matthhinton5893
    @matthhinton5893 Před 6 lety

    Hi, I am struggling to get a good result with a splitter cable on the Roland TD50k; for the head I'm using a CY20 and for the rim I'm using the BT1 trigger. Any advice gratefully received. Thanks.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      Splitter cables are always a compromise and not easy to adjust if you do not fully uderstand the parameters. I would suggest to expand your drumset with a slave module. A splitter cable with a TD-50 is like a race car with cartwheels.

  • @calo70
    @calo70 Před 6 lety

    Great video...What are possibilities or options for expanding the Roland TD 17?

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety +1

      Regular Y-Splitters, not drumsplitters.

    • @CaptKewl
      @CaptKewl Před 5 lety

      @@Vdrumtips1 Y-Splitters. Female to 2 male? Male to 2 male? Do you have a link to a suggested Y cable/splitter? =]

  • @InstanRamen
    @InstanRamen Před 3 lety

    Thx

  • @jmawdz8299
    @jmawdz8299 Před 3 lety

    So if I had SD3 for instance, could I use a Tm2 to trigger the bassdrum & a TD9 for the rest of the kit?

  • @edfx
    @edfx Před 3 lety

    Looks like TD-50 did not include percussion sets feature. Last module that has percussion sets is TD-30.

  • @anthonyb924
    @anthonyb924 Před 7 lety

    Great video as usual.
    I have a TD15 & already have EZD2. Using option 5 would you recommend another TD15 module? Will I be able to use the newly expanded kit without running through EZD2 (I usually don't hook up EZD2 when I use the kit to practice)
    Thanks

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety

      anthony b just do method 3 and 5 at the same time, so you can use them for practice withouth pc.

    • @anthonyb924
      @anthonyb924 Před 7 lety

      Vdrum Tips is the cable just a standard USB / MIDI IN OUT cable or slightly different?
      Could you run 2 x TD15 into mixer for practice then mixer to PC for EZD2? Sorry I'm still learning and don't want to buy useless equipment and get stuck with it.
      Maybe I should just save for a TD30 or MIMIC haha

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety +1

      No, you would connect them directly to the pc for ezdrummer. Audio cables do not transfer midi signals.

    • @anthonyb924
      @anthonyb924 Před 7 lety

      Vdrum Tips is the midi cable just a standard cable same as the one Roland used to manufacture?

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety

      Midi Cable has a Midi connector on each side, the Roland cable is a Midi-USB adapter

  • @rickmanondrumsandbass9292

    hi.. hope you could help me. does the td17 module works to be a master then td4 is the slave? ive been having trouble expanding my td17 kit, bought a regular y splitter and it seems ok but I tried to assign the rim signal into a different sounds but unfortanetly the head sounds comes along with it..

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 5 lety

      Rick Manlunas Non of them can be master or slave. Also, you might go to drum splitter.com and check there.

  • @keith-marvk-harrisii8666

    Finally!!!

  • @marksanders5279
    @marksanders5279 Před 6 lety

    I have a TD-20X that I love and an opportunity to pick up a TD-6v cheap. Is it possible to MIDI the 6 into the 20 for more trigger inputs and use the 20 sounds?Thanks

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      If the TD-6 can be set to MIDI channel 11, yes. Check the user manual by googling it before you buy.

    • @marksanders5279
      @marksanders5279 Před 6 lety

      Thanks... :)

  • @otenis2008
    @otenis2008 Před 5 lety +1

    If you have two modules, both connected on separate usb, won't the VST get confused by them using the same midi notes and/or channels? Or is it smart enough to differentiate between the two? I ask because i'm interested in having two modules connected to superior drummer or a DAW running it as a plugin.

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 5 lety +1

      Well, you do not have to send the same Midi notes. Module 1 can send the note range 1-50 and Module 2 can send 51-127. The VST would not care where the signal is coming from. It could be confused if one driver is used for 2x the same product. But if you do this via Midi cable, you can do this with as many modules as possible. There are reversed MIDI splitters available with 3 inputs and one output.

    • @MichaelReyk
      @MichaelReyk Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@Vdrumtips1 What's better? Connecting 2 modules from any brand via usb to my pc directly or use a splitted midi cable to usb to my pc like your option 5 in the video? It's the same or is there a difference?

  • @Lateralusaint.
    @Lateralusaint. Před 3 lety

    i just got a roland td k1 and i have 3 old simmons pads and an yamaha tmx module any ideas? well i could conect separatlly bt than i dont have same sound on fones)

    • @Lateralusaint.
      @Lateralusaint. Před 3 lety

      ok i think i get it 2 modules conected to pc and to ez drumer?

  • @rickkoole1266
    @rickkoole1266 Před 5 lety +2

    Now i have just a simple question. I have an Roland td25-kv. Is it on maybe one way possible to put another cymbal/drumpad on this drumkit?? Because i need another floortom, but im not a technicus. So is it possible on a way or not?

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 5 lety

      Well you saw all the possibilities in this video.

    • @rickkoole1266
      @rickkoole1266 Před 5 lety

      @@Vdrumtips1 yeah, i get that, but im not english or whatever so i doesnt get anything from what you say

    • @johnbagi5230
      @johnbagi5230 Před 4 lety

      @@Vdrumtips1 hey man that's not a very affirmative answer to this question. Looking through the comments many people are interested in adding to their td25. Your video did not provide much information on current drum modules. Have there been any updates on this? Thanks

  • @drumilo8814
    @drumilo8814 Před 6 lety

    I have a td11 module and an alesis dm5 module. Would I be able to plug them both directly into my pc so I can trigger superior drummer and add more drum pads? or am I better off getting a second roland cheaper module like a td6 or something

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety +1

      Depends if the PC and the module drivers allow that. Just try it out.

    • @drumilo8814
      @drumilo8814 Před 6 lety

      Vdrum Tips I don't have a midi to usb adapter that's why I wanted to make sure first. Thanks for replying

  • @jackiedivine
    @jackiedivine Před 7 lety +2

    Great video! I can recommend the TD9 with a TD4 extension via midi. Always worked flawlessly for me. It's a shame Roland hasn't built a midi-in port into the TD25...

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety

      You are totally right! I was so disappointed about Roland not implementing this feature into the TD-25.

    • @Wessel_Moonen
      @Wessel_Moonen Před 6 lety

      Maybe the td25 can receive midi in via usb ?

    • @brad_neal
      @brad_neal Před 5 lety

      I know. I just purchased a TD-25kv kit, only to learn that I am not able to split the channels. Guess I'll be selling that module and looking for something else. :-(

  • @gonzorudeboy
    @gonzorudeboy Před 7 lety +1

    Great video! I have been actually using the first solution with a TD-12 as master ans an Alesis Trigger IO assSlave that I use with XLN Audio Addictive Drums.
    Keep up with the great work!

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety

      Cool, so you are a pro already and know about the hacks:D

    • @gonzorudeboy
      @gonzorudeboy Před 7 lety

      Vdrum Tips I'm far from a pro, lol. There's always something to learn and your channel helped a lot.

  • @Th3MrLoquendero
    @Th3MrLoquendero Před 6 lety

    ¿How do I connect 2 hi-hat on my td-11? the Cy-5 and Cy-11 for example

    • @Rvolks
      @Rvolks Před 5 lety

      plug the second one in the crash 2 but use the td 11 to change it to sound how you want it

  • @goncaloparreira7214
    @goncaloparreira7214 Před 7 lety +3

    i have a kt3 and a kt4 drum module. Can i use the kt3 to trigger midi from the kt4 (which as a way better sound) using the first way?

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 7 lety

      I have no idea. You are in the best position to try this out:) Let me know if it works.

    • @goncaloparreira7214
      @goncaloparreira7214 Před 7 lety +1

      Vdrum Tips I will

    • @kevinmeli
      @kevinmeli Před 7 lety

      Goncalo Parreira Did it work?

    • @goncaloparreira7214
      @goncaloparreira7214 Před 7 lety

      Dr. Taco nah it didn't, but I'm going to try the 5th way

    • @goncaloparreira7214
      @goncaloparreira7214 Před 7 lety +1

      Dr. Taco the 5th seams to be a pretty good way to use with this to modules

  • @alensiljak
    @alensiljak Před 4 lety

    #3, technically you **can** connect two different, but very similar modules, i.e. TD-11 & TD-4 are very good complementary modules. I'm currently using that option now it works great because the sounds are pretty much identical between these series.

    • @alensiljak
      @alensiljak Před 4 lety

      @Backwards Rabbit I connect the modules via simple audio cables but some modules can also be connected via MIDI, triggering the instruments in the other module. Good luck!

    • @alensiljak
      @alensiljak Před 4 lety

      @Backwards Rabbit and, with a decent mixer, any number of modules can be combined together 😃

  • @oriellevi5346
    @oriellevi5346 Před 6 lety

    I tried to connect my tmc 6 through a midi cable to my td 9 midi in then midi out from td 9 to my scarllet interface midi in then usb cable from interface to my mac. for some reason superior drummer 2 doesnt show any signals of my cy 8 connected to my tmc 6... when i only use my td 9 it works ( i did exacly like your other video that explanes about the tmc 6).

    • @Vdrumtips1
      @Vdrumtips1  Před 6 lety

      There are many things that can be wrong in the settings. Check this video: czcams.com/video/kyerabjJRY8/video.html

    • @oriellevi5346
      @oriellevi5346 Před 6 lety

      Vdrum Tips yes I found it... midi thru in the td 9 haha

  • @johndef5075
    @johndef5075 Před 2 lety +1

    I just ran an Alesis Nitro module into the mix in on my td10. Anywhere from 11 to 19 new pads...

    • @MichaelReyk
      @MichaelReyk Před 3 měsíci

      You connected the nitro module to the aux in of your td10? Actually I have low budget nux dm210. I want to know if I can comnect a nitro module into de dm210 and by this way extend my pads in a cheap way. Also would it be better to connect both modules via usb directly to pc?

  • @David_Camerwrongun
    @David_Camerwrongun Před 2 lety

    I've just gone to Yamaha directly to build me a 12 piece fully customised electric kit all the bells and whistles and ran into exact this problem.
    I had two options - Multiple modules and I spider web of cables or get Yamaha to build me a one off custom setup as 12 drums with rim shot + 6 - 8 mute capable cymbals exceeds anything they have in the factory.
    Decided to go with the one off so I can expand in the future, hook up a soundboard and have as much of a realistic response as an acoustic kit.
    Waiting for the bill and the heart attack that will follow shortly after

  • @oriellevi5346
    @oriellevi5346 Před 6 lety

    can i use the tmc-6 with my TD-3 ONLY with VST such a Superior Drummer 2