Random Queue Experience: The Imperial Citadel! - How Terrible is it? - Neverwinter Mod 28
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- So I queued up to the Random Dungeon Queue and go the new dungeon. How bad is it when people have no clue what to do? We definitely spent a lot longer here than I would have liked xD
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...ah yes...people leaving the group because of either no communication or refusing do a job that relates to mechanics....it’s Castle Ravenloft's Book again.
One thing I wish is that there should be a repeatable quest that shows basically every mechanic for this dungeon. Showcasing The Floor is Lava, add priority in a boss fight, don't touch the Astral Font, and Crystal Mirror patterns. Like how it was in River District where the three mage lairs shows mechanics that will have to be resolved in Master Spellplague Caverns.
I still fukn up ravenloft lolol
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Hey. If you land in the crows nest on the sail mast you get a title!
Yep yep
I do have to agree with the person who said that this looks a lot more like an RADQ than an RDQ. Just look at the time it took for you guys to complete it? 37 mins? When has anyone spent that much time in an RDQ in this game - even when it was new? Like never.
Most RADQ's take from 20 to 30 minutes with a random group. Most RDQs take around 10-15. I think, based on the time and mechanics, this SHOULD be an RADQ and have better rewards to match it.
We already have too many RDQs and not enough RADQs. I'd rather see a new RADQ. Just my 2 cents.
Thanks for the video!
I agree. Neither Demonweb Pits nor Imperial Citadel should be part of the normal dungeon queue. They belong in RADQ.
Rdq used to take long when you could get in with lvl 5 characters🗿
This is life for most of the player base. Alliance or not we random queue and take what we can get.
Many, like myself quit doing certain queues or quit when getting certain instance b/c ita more expedient to wait out 30 mins than deal with a specific instance.
Did this for the very first time in Random Que too a few days ago. Had to learn the mechanics by trial and error, but at least we completed it after 2 hrs... 😅
nice that you all stuck together and learned together!
I got this in a random PuG and the first boss was definitely the hardest part. Once we figured it out, it was pretty smooth sailing from there, but yes we had to communicate and work as a team to be successful.
"If you can't communicate with your team I dont know what you're doing here" 🤣
I 👏🏼 love 👏🏼 this 👏🏼 video!
and because of that poor thinking that you have, that is why Neverwinter is not so popular because the majority of players it has are from Latin America and Spain because of the Devs who do not put the game in Spanish, that is why the lack of communication that only toxic people like you speak in English
I don't know if that would be the case and to what extent it would be functional, but something that exists in practically all mobile games and that could help here would be having a translator (bing/google) enabled within the game, after all, even though english is at some point, although it is a universal language, the vast majority of people aren't fluent in it (i include myself in this statistic), of course, in this case, some factors also come into play, such as there being no portuguese and spanish translation in the game for years, which in some cases can even alienate a portion of potential players.
Another point that I believe is important to take into account is: not everyone knows the peculiarities of the language of those who have greater knowledge of a certain language, for example: abbreviations, slang, local expressions and things like that.
As much as there is this impasse generated by the game mechanics, it is also valid to say that the language barrier is also something that can cause some difficulty in the gameplay and that because of this could also be something to be taken into consideration for corrections and future contents.
Perhaps a "lazy" solution, but an in-game translator would make this communication somewhat easier. As simple as it is to copy and paste into a translator, this can still be something that doesn't help communication flow as well as expected.
I ran this yesterday, group clearly had no idea what was happening so I put my headset on and explain what we needed to do on Boss 1. I was told to stfu don't tell us how to play then I was a reported for " being mean". I was not rude nor condescending is I am still learning the dungeon myself. So in the future I guess I will just leave the queue and not trying to help
THIS. SO MUCH THIS. this right here is why I don't communicate with rando's too many god dam times they have lashed out. Stop forcing them in with the rest of us into mechs like this.
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Cause learning mechanics and properly doing stuff is ELITIST/Toxic Behaviour, apparently...
Yea. It's amazing how many still Don't know mechanics or listening to cues. Had a few runs where. I had to explain mechanics and still failed. Aragon! Loving the whisper knife ST loadout you recommended. Now, is the aoe loadout the same as the build you put out a few months ago? I usually run assasin on aoe. Gg great vid.
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@@Aragon- Saw it as soon as it hit. THANK YOU. made it very simple and easy to follow. Awesome as always.
We killed the scorpion on two attempts today. Not sure if that was a bug, but the thoon hulk seemed to get a huge defense boost after the scorpion was killed.
I was lucky: I didn't know there would be The Imperial Citadel in the random queues but I was with strong players who already knew how to do it :|
I had a random pug be able to kill the scorpion before the hulk and then failed to kill the hulk (I was the healer)... anyway. Just cant have that in a public queue for the easier tier dungeons...
That's why they have to take out this dungeon from the random dungeons, maybe just put on the advanced as it should, it is just too hard for most people to coordinate, and expect coordination from pugs is just... well you know...
Be kind of neat if there was some drop down language selection when first creating the character to show others our preferred language if a built-in translator isn't practical which I'm sure it likely isn't. It certainly wouldn't solve this issue, but might make communication a little easier for some groups. Currently I look at their name, guild/alliance name, and any biography they have if they have one to try to determine what language they are if they're unresponsive, but a lot of times it's hard to tell if it's a language barrier or if they're not looking at chat or just plain ignoring it. Either way, this dungeons doesn't belong in RDQ. Maybe RADQ, but certainly not RDQ as others before me have stated. The only thing I'll add is maybe for the tutorial they get you to do when leveling up a character, perhaps add something there for jumping as many were even failing the jump from the plank in Moondancer and it seems to be for a similar reason as to why they fail here too. They don't seem to grasp you can jump higher by holding down the jump key.
Would like to do a couple of master runs with you :D
Hi Aragon, nice video.
Can a warlock healer control the snake? What should I use on her?
I'm one to love group and teamwork content. I feel at my best when I'm able to help with mechanics but the thing is something like a random q shouldn't have that forced on any players. I just flatout disagree with how cryptic keeps making content that us endgamers can enjoy but then throws all the rando's in it and expects them to understand it all like it's basic. It's toxic and in the process it destroys both sides from having fun because they're being forced in it together. Like you said at least alter the first boss mechanic then it'd be solid. God forbid you walk in as a dps knowing the mechanics with Noone else knowing it lol
Idk why they not put new instances to advanced, since usually newcomers r queue to skirmish and dungeon...
They should probably remove heal from first boss in radq!! Love the footage from second boss haha! "We move" "move again" "and another one" "again" haha.
i got it once.. luckily i watch your tutorial.. however, the other 4 not.. and.. they refuse to cooperate.. then i just left.. close game.. watch 1 episode anime.. then log in again.. hahaha.
The frustration was palpable
A lot of people were lfm atic and mtic on the first week, but now it's gone all quiet. Do they already have all the gear they wanted or just playing with trusted friends? In any case, hard to find a good group these days.
The gear sucks you aren't missing anything. Get the solarum gear from ADM and rock that.
Just wondering how often the wiz has to use repel on the snake. Is that all the wiz does orcdoes he alternate between the boss and the snake.
just use like every second repel on the snake, while attacking the hulk normally
Im glad your graphics are flashing and doing weird stuff, thought it was my gpu but guess its just the game lol
Thanks agian mate!
Arden when I had read it but it was a tank the tank was built like a DPS😅
I was not built like a dps at all
So the scorpion: whats its role in first boss?
to put a debuff on its target. The debuff makes you take a lot of extra damage. So ideally the tank does not take the threat from it, but especially in the random queue version, it does not matter. Even in master with a good tank and healer it doesn't matter
Ty
I do wish it was longer, the gap from the second and final boss is the shortest in game and took the spot from TONG. These two Mods feel like they were victim of rushed development and could have shined with more time
If you look out of bounds theres abanddoned concepts/rooms that looked like it was meant to be below the room where xeleth is
@@originalitydied8667 at what point can you see them?
good video
Most people are so damn focused on just killing things without any heed to the mechanics in any content that runs look like this.
Game is at fault for making random advance and trials so easy without forcing players to observe and play mechss
This video is the game’s biggest problem in a nutshell. Players who don’t want to learn anything or improve. I’ve played several mmos and you always find a few terds who buy the game like they threw a dart a a board full of games. Maybe it’s the time or the fact that it’s free to play, but the casual player base has zero interest in assessing where they are with the character, learning mechanics, improving, and communicating. It’s a real issue if you put on Xbox. We can point fingers at devs and wish for improvements all day but the players are the biggest issue in game.
In my experience , not terrible at all. I have rdq it now three times as healer and as tank.
ETA: maybe blur player's names in vids like this, especially if they are performing less than optimal.
y it is good , for first time they did awesome , problem in the game is ppl just dont pay attention to chat
Nah, no need to blur, they should be shamed.. 🤣😂
Lol ty so funny
Do every class have control powers?
all do, but not all have push, which makes it easier
That's why everyone is shouting for cws again.
@@NytLegendRangers work too
@utahgetme2461 yeah I know. I main an hr.
@@utahgetme2461 done tonight rdq, ranger said : 'I can pull the snake! '
Boss was less than half life, the snake just passed by and refill almost full health, happened two times. Ranger then explained ' roots too short, can't keep it ! ' 😂. Just to say. I suggested the healer should take snake, in the end we succeeded anyway
hahahaaaa the floor is lava! Jump!
HORRIBLE RANDOM QUEUE ALL DONGEON ABUSED
Badly designed repeat of all old dungeon mechs thrown together no wonder all the devs are getting the boot they are clueless
L1 + X To jump on console.
And you can't really copy and paste the chat into Google on console so communication is even harder on console especially when so many players don't want to get involved in chat at all.
Iv not been In this dumgeon yet but yes probably going to have a month or two of many failed standard dungeons because of there is a huge player base who just want to be carries through everything and have no interest in.learning mechanics hell I see 80k + not knowing basic mechanics like the Hypo and omg the amount of people who don't know the book in ravenloft infact name any dungeons with mechanics and I guarantee majority of those dungeons will fail in public groups 8/10 times because of even high IL players not being bothered to learn mechanics.
Xbox smart glass allows you to copy paste any text, not sure if ps has anything similar
I have played this game on console off and on for 12 years. Communication via text on a console "typing" with a controller is quite awful. At least you have keyboards. And typical, random console group players are not too keen to join voice chat. My lone pick-up group for this instance was not successful. Hope it's better when I try again this weekend.
P.S. thanks for your uploads. This game's developers are kind of trash when it comes to explaining (and fixing) stuff. Players have to rely on third parties for some insight.
I use a wireless keyboard on my XBox /shrug
I've mentioned this before, it shouldn't be on the random queue (or should be higher).
I've been in a few groups, and it's not for non English speaking players, which is half of Europe.
I'm just leaving.
L1 X
No one knows mechanics cannot even complete rdq
Lol this is a perfect example at how bad people are at this game
Easy for bis only elites. Try no discord no private preview no public oriview ever again and we will see if the bus only will sing the same tune.
@@SeanBotha lol i learned the mechanics by myself lmao just learn the dungeon not that hard
This is why I almost totally quit playing Neverwinter. I cant get a regular group going, so trying to run advanced anything is just not gonna work. The only people completing this stuff have regular groups or very active alliances with mostly end-gamers. If you get a random MToS in the que, ppl still dont know how to run that after all of this time. Im going to say this loud enough for the developers to hear..."IF YOU PUT DIFFICULT MECHANICS IN YOUR DUNGEONS, YOU ELIMINATE 95% OF YOUR PLAYERS FROM BEING ABLE TO COMPLETE YOUR CONTENT' (YOU ELIMINATE ALL THE NOOBS, AND 95% OF PEOPLE WHO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND ARE FORCED TO PLAY WITH THE REST)
Yes people are dumb. No they dont watch strat videos. Half of them dont speak english. Look how many times they re-worked Tiamat.
Most of these dungeons are a failure if just 1 person doesnt know what they are doing. Try running them with half the group not knowing.
Is it simply too much to ask for, to get dungeons and trials that are not designed to make the top 2% of the player base happy? Those people are someday very soon going to be playing a game all by themselves. How will the servers stay up with that? Elitist's need for challenge is, and has been for a long time, killing this game!
Okay, but your elistism is showing again - NOBODY should really HAVE to go on CZcams to look up game mechanics for dungeons, that's just bad game design. If you're gonna put mechanics in dungeons, trials and boss fights they should be intuitive and as much as possible should be covered in some form during learning combat mechanics early in the game. With the exception of advanced and master content ALL of the basic random content should be doable for ALL players of ALL skill levels, and I say that as someone who is frequently carrying groups in randoms but I'm not gonna look down my nose at people the way you do. You assume because YOU play the game for hours every day that everyone else does. If people don't know what to do, help them - don't be a snarky asshole.
if you pay attention, all the mechanics and signals are there. How else would we know them? The devs don't tell us.
@@Aragon- Its RDQ for christ sake, only "mechanic" should be don't stand in red.
Well, the mechanics appear to be pretty simple, and the video was edited but did show the group trying to communicate the important, strategic points. I think they DID try to help the noobs. You can lead a horse to water but can't make it drink.... you can call it a stupid horse though!
@@CST-ft9dvso you want the game to hold your hand and make it baby mode for everything that isn’t master content? It’s supposed to be a little bit of a challenge your first attempt it’s not supposed to be a walk in the park with 0 mechanics
@@fov110 For RDQ YES, if you want a challange put it in RADQ. Theres only 4 or 5 there anyway, RDQ already got like 20 maps
Can you talk to devs to make PVP relevant again xD
Why it's been years let it die, go play a different game.
@@brawndothirstmutilator5863 Well you are no fun. Also, no. I enjoy it. I don't even care for rewards. Arcane Brotherhood 4ever.