Every time an airline knows that it is going to be acquired by another company, the employees change and the desire to serve and the quality of good service that was previously drops to zero. I speak from experience of many years in the industry. Asiana has been talking about being acquired by Korean Airlines since 2020, but due to the pandemic things have been delayed but the atmosphere has been felt by the employees since the first announcement, I'm sorry for Asiana, for me it was better in service than Korea Air Lines, and unfortunately the good things of a company are never inherited by the one that buys. RIP ASIAN
I love Asiana! I used to always fly them to Cebu in the Philippines; from LAX. The only problem I had with Asiana was the flights into Cebu arrived so late in the am (like 1-2am). The service and food you get on Asiana is incredible. But, next time we head back to Cebu, will be flying Singapore Airlines most likely.
@user-td1uu5rp4b you are correct. however, if starting from Los Angeles and SFO PR offers SFO/LAX-MNL CEB. You clear customs in CEB as stated on the in-flight Mabuhay Magazine. For economy class it would be something like this OZ/KE > PR Fiesta Class 🇵🇭
@kermicgreen3370 you are correct look at skytrax OZ 🇰🇷 5 star while PR is 4 star🇵🇭. If you are starting from the United States to Cebu look at OZ221 passengers like Boxes going to CEB via ICN same with KE082 at JFK. Terminal 8 QR and CX boxes to CEB.
Thank you for an enjoyable flight review ! Personally I really don't enjoy relatively short overnight flights, but you seem to have managed to make yourself quite comfortable. I have never flown in a premium cabin on Asiana. However, I have done Seoul - London a few times, including connecting from that redeye from Bangkok. For me one important test of an airline is how bearable they are on a long haul flight in economy and in this respect Asiana have done pretty well each time I've flown with them.
I’ve heard they have great economy! I usually don’t like the short redeyes either but this time I was more so chasing the A380 and the LAX flight was way to expensive for me
Enjoyed this flight review. You are precise and to the point. I see the Asiana's A380 a lot at LAX, with 2 daily flights from Seoul. Impressive plane, just wondering what class sits upstairs?
They’ve got business class upstairs which is nice but nothing quite like this. I’d love to fly this aircraft on the trans pacific route one day and get the full service for sure
Awesome video!! Thank you for sharing your trip with us!!! The A380 is my favorite aircraft for sure! Despite the details that should've came along with the price tag it looked like a very nice experience and I appreciate you sharing with us! Be well, be safe and Cheers!!
I think the fact it was a 4 hour redeye flight also contributed to the lack of amenities received. If I ever get the chance to fly it on a longer route I will totally take the opportunity!
I think you got exactly what you paid for and was advertised.For a 5/6 hour red eye flight the service was fine.Even though you started by saying it was just an upgraded seat you kept on comparing to 1st class which I thought was unfair
The comparison to first class mostly comes from the fact that these were built to be first class. The downgraded service recently after rebranding it is just unfortunate. But if you judge it as a business class you are correct
Perhaps the downgrade in service/experience is due to Asiana merging with Korean Air. This merger may also be the reason Delta eliminated asian routes from SEA, which is supposed to be Delta's asian gateway and primary west coast hub. KL is a Sky Team member, so the carrier can provide extensive reach for DL fliers. A major downside is DL fliers must now connect through ICN. Non-stop routes are a thing of the past, which frustrates me.
I also wonder how the merger will affect star alliance hubs like San Francisco which have a large amount of traffic to Asia if Asiana, one of Asia’s largest star alliance carrier goes away
It will be interesting to see what happens when the merger with Korean Air is complete. I know they will no longer be Star Alliance but Skyteam. A window seat is an upgrade? BTW, your walkthrough of BKK will be helpful on my next trip to Bangkok. Previously, I transferred from Chiang Mai, so I only dealt with transit security and didn't have time to explore duty free or restaurants before by departure to Taipei.
In all airline mergers, both airlines must be in the same Airline alliance; much like how Continental was under SkyTeam until their merger process with United was underway. In Asiana's case they have to renounce their Star Alliance membership for SkyTeam once their merger is approved, which many nations have not yet signed the MoU.
35:59, Asiana airlines is the best and good looking plane. I flew Asiana airlines for the 1st time, twice in 2016, but on the A330 from Manila to Incheon then to Honolulu and it's nice.
@@PatrickSheaAviation Hopefully, if they get enough feedbacks.. wouldn't take much to create that illusion nowadays. I remember seeing it the first time in '79 on a B720 form LHR-ADD. I honestly thought the aircraft had a sunroof, like you would in a car, and it took me a while to realize it was just an effect.
Any plans to include videos beyond flight reviews? There are a few avegeek and mileage runners on here so it would be interesting to see how you killed time in a city, where you stayed and where you ate (even if just a McDonald’s). I actually love overseas McDonald’s because they serve many interesting and tasty items unique to the country. Thanks.
I am actually testing out a potential video style like that. I typically don't spend more than 24 hours in any place. So I'm considering making videos on how to best spend 24 hours in different places. It's all a work in progress right now
Hello I'm Jiwon Emma from S. Korea. Asiana uesed to has First class but now they changed business. And Asiana going to M&A . korean air will be going to take over.
18:41 if you were watching NBC ABC CBS SF Bay/LA late night talk shows they would have talked about K-pop and Kdrama which is what the Asiana IFE System has for the Korean option. If I need to fly Asiana JFK to CRK which is actually the closest airport to Bataan Province🇵🇭 I would have used Korean pop music kdrama. For Philippines to South Korea I see Asiana 🇰🇷> PR🇵🇭 Japan🇯🇵 to Philippines 🇵🇭 Partner NH 🇯🇵> PR🇵🇭. If your local Airport is LAX and SFO the NH/JL flight to NRT/HND does carry MNL passengers so is the OZ/KE to ICN for MNL CRK CEB. One reason which is actually avoiding PR🇵🇭 which you should try if applicable to do so. On PR try the Filipino menu option
Sadly not a true first class anymore. It’s first class seats with business class service. I flew on Asiana’s A380 in January from lax to ICN in regular business class. I think they only do amenities kits on long haul flights. This probably counts as a medium hall.
@@PatrickSheaAviation more business class seat availability compared to the 777 or the A350. Flew on their A350 in business class too from SFO to ICN (there was no award space from LAX in business class) both are great planes to be on .
I don’t think it’s worth it now. I’ve flown it from JFK to Incheon back when it was operated as “real” First Class. Service was top notch. Cabin crew were always walking by and very attentive, starting with escorting to the seat to preparing the bed. They also helped with connection informations prior to arrival. Not to mention that catering was also much better like caviar and better mid-flight snacks. The only thing this Business Suites has is the same seat and unfortunately Asiana’s business class amenity and services are just mediocre. 💔
The story was well told. We see a decent product. But the notion that this qualifies as an “upgrade” to business class stretches the imagination. I doubt this experience will make it onto many people’s bucket list. Let’s think of this as work in progress.
It's not a "work in progress". They discontinued a true F product some time ago but were not reconfigure the 380 or 747 the previously had F. Both fleet types are going away in the not too distant future.
Flew them often in J and F several years ago as good fares and 744s had many expat pilots. 767 J service very poor if only pax to HKG as earlier 777 flights full Can state that desdheading western cargo pilots are not allowed to use OZ at that time but KE rights restored.
0:32 You nailed it! That was perfect!
Great news! 😮💨
Nicely done 👍
Thanks for sharing
Greetings from Helsinki ❄️ Finland
The tragedy taking place upstairs to the left of the screen at 0:35-0:39 ..oh my, LOL!
I love that view of 2 engines as it takes off
Me too! Although the A380 window pane makes it tough to get both engines in the same shot
Every time an airline knows that it is going to be acquired by another company, the employees change and the desire to serve and the quality of good service that was previously drops to zero. I speak from experience of many years in the industry. Asiana has been talking about being acquired by Korean Airlines since 2020, but due to the pandemic things have been delayed but the atmosphere has been felt by the employees since the first announcement, I'm sorry for Asiana, for me it was better in service than Korea Air Lines, and unfortunately the good things of a company are never inherited by the one that buys. RIP ASIAN
that cabin is so comfortable- used to fly in first, although sold as business from seoul-hong kong before the pandemic.
I love Asiana! I used to always fly them to Cebu in the Philippines; from LAX. The only problem I had with Asiana was the flights into Cebu arrived so late in the am (like 1-2am). The service and food you get on Asiana is incredible. But, next time we head back to Cebu, will be flying Singapore Airlines most likely.
I did enjoy this flight, and wished it was longer. Enjoy Singapore Airlines on your next trip!
when you use philippine airline icn-ceb, that flight would be 8:30am departue....
@user-td1uu5rp4b you are correct. however, if starting from Los Angeles and SFO PR offers SFO/LAX-MNL CEB. You clear customs in CEB as stated on the in-flight Mabuhay Magazine. For economy class it would be something like this OZ/KE > PR Fiesta Class 🇵🇭
@user-td1uu5rp4b Asiana Airlines is much nicer than Philippine Airlines.
@kermicgreen3370 you are correct look at skytrax OZ 🇰🇷 5 star while PR is 4 star🇵🇭. If you are starting from the United States to Cebu look at OZ221 passengers like Boxes going to CEB via ICN same with KE082 at JFK. Terminal 8 QR and CX boxes to CEB.
I'm loving your videos . You do an awesome job of showing us the world . Look forward to many more ! Cheers from a new subscriber
Glad you like them! Thanks!
Thank you for an enjoyable flight review ! Personally I really don't enjoy relatively short overnight flights, but you seem to have managed to make yourself quite comfortable.
I have never flown in a premium cabin on Asiana. However, I have done Seoul - London a few times, including connecting from that redeye from Bangkok. For me one important test of an airline is how bearable they are on a long haul flight in economy and in this respect Asiana have done pretty well each time I've flown with them.
I’ve heard they have great economy! I usually don’t like the short redeyes either but this time I was more so chasing the A380 and the LAX flight was way to expensive for me
really good review. well done sir.
Thank you!
thank you for sharing :)
Thanks!
I Have Not Try Out ASIANA A380 FIRST CLASS SUITES.Great Trip Report
Thank you!
The one thing I’m really going to miss is the Asiana Livery. It’s a gorgeous livery and my favorite livery on the A380
I do think it looks real good on the A380
The fact that is private cabin, that is good,
Enjoyed this flight review. You are precise and to the point. I see the Asiana's A380 a lot at LAX, with 2 daily flights from Seoul. Impressive plane, just wondering what class sits upstairs?
They’ve got business class upstairs which is nice but nothing quite like this. I’d love to fly this aircraft on the trans pacific route one day and get the full service for sure
Awesome video!! Thank you for sharing your trip with us!!! The A380 is my favorite aircraft for sure! Despite the details that should've came along with the price tag it looked like a very nice experience and I appreciate you sharing with us! Be well, be safe and Cheers!!
I think the fact it was a 4 hour redeye flight also contributed to the lack of amenities received. If I ever get the chance to fly it on a longer route I will totally take the opportunity!
@@PatrickSheaAviation Absolutely👍🏽
0:36 OMG that poor woman
I think you got exactly what you paid for and was advertised.For a 5/6 hour red eye flight the service was fine.Even though you started by saying it was just an upgraded seat you kept on comparing to 1st class which I thought was unfair
The comparison to first class mostly comes from the fact that these were built to be first class. The downgraded service recently after rebranding it is just unfortunate. But if you judge it as a business class you are correct
1:16…. I just died 😂😂
Normally I just grab some bites at TG lounge, and then leave to go to EVA lounge which is very cosy and quiet 😅
Good tip for next time
@@PatrickSheaAviation not much food variety in EVA lounge but they offer some nice dimsum and coconut juice 🥰
Perhaps the downgrade in service/experience is due to Asiana merging with Korean Air. This merger may also be the reason Delta eliminated asian routes from SEA, which is supposed to be Delta's asian gateway and primary west coast hub. KL is a Sky Team member, so the carrier can provide extensive reach for DL fliers. A major downside is DL fliers must now connect through ICN. Non-stop routes are a thing of the past, which frustrates me.
I also wonder how the merger will affect star alliance hubs like San Francisco which have a large amount of traffic to Asia if Asiana, one of Asia’s largest star alliance carrier goes away
Well they have SEA-TPE starting June 6, 2023
It will be interesting to see what happens when the merger with Korean Air is complete. I know they will no longer be Star Alliance but Skyteam. A window seat is an upgrade? BTW, your walkthrough of BKK will be helpful on my next trip to Bangkok. Previously, I transferred from Chiang Mai, so I only dealt with transit security and didn't have time to explore duty free or restaurants before by departure to Taipei.
I agree it will be interesting to see how the merger affects things. Enjoy Bangkok!
@@PatrickSheaAviation It will still probably be two separate airlines for the time being.
In all airline mergers, both airlines must be in the same Airline alliance; much like how Continental was under SkyTeam until their merger process with United was underway. In Asiana's case they have to renounce their Star Alliance membership for SkyTeam once their merger is approved, which many nations have not yet signed the MoU.
35:59, Asiana airlines is the best and good looking plane. I flew Asiana airlines for the 1st time, twice in 2016, but on the A330 from Manila to Incheon then to Honolulu and it's nice.
They do have nice looking airplanes. I have flown their A330 in economy and thoroughly enjoyed it!
Nice.
Same for me, the economy class is nice.
Great video can you do a Korean Air A380 Seoul to New York or New York to Seoul flight review
I’m trying to get on Korean Air’s A380. Their North American flights are out of my price range at the moment however
Artificial night sky were common feature of the B707/720 back when IFEs' were non-existent.
I wish it was more a mainstream thing. It just makes it more cozy. Maybe it’s making a comeback
@@PatrickSheaAviation Hopefully, if they get enough feedbacks.. wouldn't take much to create that illusion nowadays. I remember seeing it the first time in '79 on a B720 form LHR-ADD. I honestly thought the aircraft had a sunroof, like you would in a car, and it took me a while to realize it was just an effect.
Price?
This route starts at about $800 USD for this seat
Hey OZ 742?
That’s the one!
Any plans to include videos beyond flight reviews? There are a few avegeek and mileage runners on here so it would be interesting to see how you killed time in a city, where you stayed and where you ate (even if just a McDonald’s). I actually love overseas McDonald’s because they serve many interesting and tasty items unique to the country. Thanks.
I am actually testing out a potential video style like that. I typically don't spend more than 24 hours in any place. So I'm considering making videos on how to best spend 24 hours in different places. It's all a work in progress right now
Maybe it is worth extra money to have a feeling of first class seat. I look forward to your long haul flight to US.
I can’t wait to try it out on a more long haul flight to the US as well!
Hello I'm Jiwon Emma from S. Korea. Asiana uesed to has First class but now they changed business. And Asiana going to M&A . korean air will be going to take over.
18:41 if you were watching NBC ABC CBS SF Bay/LA late night talk shows they would have talked about K-pop and Kdrama which is what the Asiana IFE System has for the Korean option. If I need to fly Asiana JFK to CRK which is actually the closest airport to Bataan Province🇵🇭 I would have used Korean pop music kdrama. For Philippines to South Korea I see Asiana 🇰🇷> PR🇵🇭 Japan🇯🇵 to Philippines 🇵🇭 Partner NH 🇯🇵> PR🇵🇭. If your local Airport is LAX and SFO the NH/JL flight to NRT/HND does carry MNL passengers so is the OZ/KE to ICN for MNL CRK CEB. One reason which is actually avoiding PR🇵🇭 which you should try if applicable to do so. On PR try the Filipino menu option
Sadly not a true first class anymore. It’s first class seats with business class service. I flew on Asiana’s A380 in January from lax to ICN in regular business class. I think they only do amenities kits on long haul flights. This probably counts as a medium hall.
I was hoping to try that. Hopefully before Korean Air absorbs them and they go away for good
@@PatrickSheaAviation more business class seat availability compared to the 777 or the A350. Flew on their A350 in business class too from SFO to ICN (there was no award space from LAX in business class) both are great planes to be on .
I don’t think it’s worth it now. I’ve flown it from JFK to Incheon back when it was operated as “real” First Class. Service was top notch. Cabin crew were always walking by and very attentive, starting with escorting to the seat to preparing the bed. They also helped with connection informations prior to arrival. Not to mention that catering was also much better like caviar and better mid-flight snacks. The only thing this Business Suites has is the same seat and unfortunately Asiana’s business class amenity and services are just mediocre. 💔
Agreed, it is a bit sad to see it happening considering I had heard great things about their first class product
The story was well told. We see a decent product. But the notion that this qualifies as an “upgrade” to business class stretches the imagination. I doubt this experience will make it onto many people’s bucket list. Let’s think of this as work in progress.
It's not a "work in progress". They discontinued a true F product some time ago but were not reconfigure the 380 or 747 the previously had F. Both fleet types are going away in the not too distant future.
That’s a bargain for the seats
Sorry, but I don't think congee/porridge is native to SEA.😆
Flew them often in J and F several years ago as good fares and 744s had many expat pilots.
767 J service very poor if only pax to HKG as earlier 777 flights full
Can state that desdheading western cargo pilots are not allowed to use OZ at that time but KE rights restored.
0:34
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Korean FSCs are not worth money.. so sad for outbound passengers in Korea because storing milage is big factor of choosing those airlines for travel
Thouth I enjoyed your video, it was a chore to understand you over the background music.
Lol. You mean you didn’t find Western Food in the lounge appetizing. WTF did expect out of a tuna sandwich. GFY
poor catering in Asiana BC...
Food on a tray...IN FIRST CLASS??????
I know! But, Remember, it isn’t “technically” first class. It’s a business class seat so it has similar food offerings.
@@PatrickSheaAviation Even then. Food on a tray is pure "covid heritage".
lots of complaining as usual
hi