How to Practice Sim Racing Efficiently - Don't Waste your Time - Assetto Corsa Competizione

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  • @Speedyey
    @Speedyey Před měsícem +42

    I really dont understand how i could get faster, while i see ppl being seconds faster then me on tracks... kinda frustrating to be on what feels like the limit and still being slow

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před měsícem +18

      I totally get that. But understand that there will always be people faster than you (unless you are crazy talented or spend a ton of time). What helps me is focusing on my own improvements. You can compare your driving to others, especially for lap guides and such, but just to compare lines and braking points. Don't get hung up on lap times too much. You'll get faster sooner rather than later if you just focus on deliberate practice.

    • @wrxer79
      @wrxer79 Před měsícem +2

      I get those points, I then analyze where I'm slow at thru programs like track titan. Usually I'll focus on my 2 slowest corners. It helps me figure out my weak points. And I get that "Aha" moment where it clicks where I'm going wrong and can be fighting in the top 5..in saying that there are tracks in weaker at and I just can't figure it out haha. It is rewarding though when u finally get that breakthrough on a track and it all clicks in place.

    • @SankarshanGhosh
      @SankarshanGhosh Před měsícem +6

      Once you can master being on the limit of rotation without having to countersteer it out, you'll get faster.

    • @driverjamescopeland
      @driverjamescopeland Před 28 dny +3

      The best way to break plateau, is either ghosting, or wheel-to-wheel competition. I can't tell you how many times I've gained tenths from racing someone else, even if they were slower. Something would happen to force me out of habit, and find a new line, or force me to take a section a shade slower, allowing for a better entry to the next section.

    • @MattWillPrior
      @MattWillPrior Před 26 dny +1

      One thing that helps me is just having a CZcams lap and my lap side by side and just seeing what's different. Then also worth looking into data tools. I use Motec, but honestly there's loads out there so best doing your own research and seeing what's right for you

  • @TheSimGrid
    @TheSimGrid Před 28 dny +3

    Great idea for a video! People spend so long trying to find half a tenth but then throw seconds away in races! Avoiding crashes / situational awareness is so underrated!

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 28 dny +1

      Thank you for stopping by @TheSimGrid, awesome to see someone from such a big ACC event organizer on my little channel. 😊 And yes, that's so true. 👍

    • @isurewouldliketo
      @isurewouldliketo Před 20 dny

      Yes! People need to learn to pick their battles/focus on winning the war and not every single battle.
      In life and in racing using the idea of “expected value” is very helpful (% probability of outcome x cost or benefit of outcome = expected value (EV)). If you’re going for an overtake you have a 10% chance of success and failure means a high chance of ruining yours and someone else’s race, it’s a dumb move and not worth it! And just because you succeed in a risky move one time doesn’t make it a “good” decision.

  • @PedroDelgado724
    @PedroDelgado724 Před 3 dny

    In practice I aim for 30 lap stints, helps me learn the track and it's limits well, allows me to experiment with certain moves and lines and also teaches me about my cars fuel usage and how well I manage my tyre's, the car behaves differently throughout the race and if you only hotlap you'll never experience how the car performs in the later race once I get that down I start focusing on my quali setup/strategy

  • @aleccoles5557
    @aleccoles5557 Před měsícem +2

    This was really helpful because I definitely feel like my practice is a little 'mindless' sometimes.
    As for content, I like this 'nerdy' detailed things about how to improve at racing (so more of what you already do) 🤓
    Thanks for the video!

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 29 dny +1

      Great to hear! And thanks for the input. 😊

  • @blistery1875
    @blistery1875 Před měsícem +1

    Excellent video content HD! Being new to sim racing/simcade racing with FM23, I spent the initial months focusing on consistency, then started the racecraft training. I truly did not care about my race results since I felt that they would improve over time and they have. It was only a few months ago that I have started the hot lap practices in rivals with the goal of discovering the best cars to improve my results. Like yourself I also took a break from all gaming, in my case approximately 2 months, and am enjoying getting back into FM. I have yet to do multi player, and like yourself I am focusing on regaining some of the consistency I had developed before my break. Well done and once again, it’s great to see you back.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před měsícem +1

      Thank you and good luck on getting back into FM to you as well! 😊

  • @effisjens1776
    @effisjens1776 Před měsícem +2

    What i always did in online races on Motorsport since day 1 (now that we actually can do this pre-race) is just set up fuel and tires the way i'll be racing the car after quali to have a more accurate feel on how the car will behave come the main race during track recon. After that, i do 1 or 2 laps on quali fuel and tires to then go into qualifying. I don't really call it practice but more of warming up. I see more use in trying to get some sort of focus and being sharp than driving on [insert track] with [insert car] for [insert amount of time].

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před měsícem +1

      It's the same for me on FM, I don't really properly practice there. It's fine mostly as the game is more forgiving on it's driving anyway. But with sims like ACC I really feel I need to practice a lot more. For one because in races like from LFM the level is more competitive and also because it's not as forgiving in terms of driving for me. It's for sure a different mindset between the two games.

  • @Rocky712_
    @Rocky712_ Před 11 dny

    It might depend on each person, but I found hotlapping as much as possible with the same race conditions and full tank the most helpful. The start is always rough, but the learning curve is high, because this way you will always keep looking for the car's limit. Building up consistency can be done afterwards if you have not built it up during the hotlapping.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 10 dny

      I guess it's different approaches and dependent on the skill level as well. I was thinking about the newer drivers, trying to improve with hotlapping, but sending it too much and therefore not learning as much as they could. But I see your argument, especially for more experienced drivers. 👍

  • @boijorzee
    @boijorzee Před 29 dny

    What most people lack the most is situational awareness. It's something that's kinda hard to train for but it's key to have a chance in a race. Racing against bots is a good way to do it. Do some shorter sprint races and try not to crash into annyone and avoid contact in general. Don't assume that if a crash does happen it's automatically the fault of the AI. Trust me, it often isn't in modern titles. If you consistently can do short races against AI without being involved in incidents you'll be more confident and have more fun in racing other people.
    If you train only with hotlaps you'll find yourself sticking to the ideal line and fumbling when circumstances force you off it. Especially race starts are important to get clean. Turn one incidents are a thing in real life but are much more likely to happen in sims. People all want to go for their ideal line without being aware of the cars around them. I find that backing off slightly and letting the chaos happen often results in me overtaking half the field after the inevitable happens in front of me.
    Also the most important thing I have learned over the years is that having fun is my priority. For me doing the occasional gt3 race against others is part of that but I mainly just like to drive all kinds of series and switch things up regulary. It might be different for you but don't feel obligated to be super competitive is what I’m trying to say.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 28 dny

      100% agree. Racing against AI and trying to keep it as clean as possible is really underrated. And to your last point: I really feel that, as I tend to get super competitive in sim racing and lose sight of what I'm doing this for: To have fun. May have to print that out. 😅

  • @MrFrosty888
    @MrFrosty888 Před 25 dny +1

    I find for myself seat time is key to stay sharp but I have taken like your self months away from my rig. What I like doing is looking for consistent laps clean laps then once I have done 10 laps watch them all and focus on on my brake throttle n steering. I use iracing as my platform running on a series that super competitive considering we are all over the age of 40. I also found that keeping your wheel base n peddles up to date n dialled in helps massively. But the key for speed is seat time with doing consistent laps and study your replays and other drivers so you can see gains and losses. Good vid to mate great info for us sim racers aboard.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 25 dny

      Yes, seat time is super important. I noticed how rusty I was after just a couple of months of not driving. You can get that back kind of quickly, but getting better requires consistent practice.

  • @MarvinButterfly
    @MarvinButterfly Před 17 dny

    Great video🙏🙏🙏
    I personally use the under steering feeling especially in assetto corsa which has the option to tick a box in the control settings.

  • @wbeel
    @wbeel Před 19 dny

    Really interesting insight in your practice, thanks!!
    I tend to have quite a different approach. I mainly play AC, so I regularly have to switch between all kinds of cars and tracks that require different driving styles to be fast and consistent. More often than not, there are no track guides available for these specific combinations.
    Usually I start with hotlapping practice. I allow myself to go nuts and try a bunch of different stuff. Different braketraces, different lines, braking points etc. Basically abusing the car to find the limits. While I would absolutely not do this IRL, being able to crash without consequence is a nice advantage of simracing.
    But why? Well, pushing the car to and over its limits allows me to understand the car. What are the do's and don'ts. It allows me to find lines and techniques I would never have found otherwise.
    Once I feel like I understand the car and techniques I have to use, I dial everything back a little and start consistency training on high fuel. This step usually isn't too hard, as I already learned all the don'ts. At that point, I feel confident that this specific line and way of braking is what I should aim for. That lack of confidence is what made me lose a lot of consistency when I started out, which is why hotlapping is a crucial starting point for me now.
    The hotlapping allows me to think out of the box and try a lot. Just last week I had a 45min race with DTM cars on a very weird and old german circuit with only 2 braking zones. I ended up with the fastest lap. After the race, we merged the fastest lap in the replays and watched the difference. Most people had very similar lines, while mine was quite different. It ended up giving me an advantage lap after lap.
    If I skip the hotlapping, I find myself missing knowledge about what works and what doesn't, I just follow whatever worked for me before and don't try a lot of new stuff, which doesn't make me faster in the long run.
    I feel like it's a bit different from racing in ACC for example, as there are track guides and videos out there for most car-track combinations. You don't need to experience as much to know what's the fastest way to go around a circuit.
    Oh, and last but not least, I just enjoy hunting for a fast laptime and the thrill of finally getting that one time you were aiming for. Even if my way of practice is not the most efficient one, at least I'm really enjoying the time I spent :)

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 18 dny +1

      Great to hear a different point of view! I can definitely see the advantage of pushing the limits if you do a lot of different car/track combos. Thanks for the insights, this might be really helpful for others as well. And to your last point: Very valid, fun and enjoyment sometimes are easy to lose sight of when trying to improve. So keep at it. 😊

  • @ShoelessJP
    @ShoelessJP Před měsícem

    Welcome back yet again, love your videos! You're my favorite new and small channel. I think if you stick with it you'll become a much bigger channel! Cheers!

  • @f1jones544
    @f1jones544 Před 28 dny

    I realized I was going around in circles with practice and just started setting up two 15 minute qualifying sessions. I know the circuits, so that's not a problem. That basically allows me two setup changes if I need them (one in each session), with four potential setups in total to select from for the race. Otherwise I throw myself into the 1 hour AI races, which forces me to just work on what really matters. I'm also starting with a season of the GT4s before go back to the big cars.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 28 dny +1

      These are all very good options. 👍 Just going for a slower car class for a while also is really underrated.

  • @MattWillPrior
    @MattWillPrior Před 26 dny

    This is a cool vid! Honestly i do try snd have an aim. But just seeing someone break it down into small chunks is really helpful!
    Little tip is i turn off the delta ui. So im not stressed about keepig it green 😅

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 26 dny

      Great tip! I only touched on that very briefly in the video, but fully agree, if you get distracted or stressed out by the delta, turn it off for practice. 👍

  • @reviewforthetube6485
    @reviewforthetube6485 Před měsícem +1

    Im atill always gonna go by hotkaps and hot sessions. Thats it works for me. Ive found going a bit slower and braking earlier helps me lesrn tracks best you can then adapt and feel where the braking should be overtime. Good rule of thumb when lesrning tracks guys its always better to brake a little to esrly then a little to late. Just saying, especially in acc lol.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před měsícem

      Going slower and braking earlier is the way to go when learning a new track for sure. 👍

  • @nev-f6n
    @nev-f6n Před měsícem

    I use Practice to test my set up, tweak it, and also check the tyre wear under "race conditions", meaning: will my tyres last the race duration, is my set up correct for the track/tyres. Also confirming braking zones, lines etc.
    Typically my setups are quite tight or stiff from a handling perspective, it's just how I like the car to feel, depending on the track and drive type. So listening for the squeal of the tyres is a thing, which I correct by adjusting the diff balance to add or reduce to front or rear depending on the car/drive type.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před měsícem +1

      Yeah, that's for sure also one very good reason for practice. Tires and the track will change during a race. People who just hotlap have never experienced that before a race.

  • @chriswineland6881
    @chriswineland6881 Před 18 dny

    Practice makes permanent

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 18 dny

      Bad habits can still be untrained, but it will be a lot harder.

  • @moxiematt7931
    @moxiematt7931 Před měsícem

    Thanks for another great video!

  • @pelgrimmmxxx4827
    @pelgrimmmxxx4827 Před 21 dnem

    I practise so i can be consistent 😊 hopefully

  • @Tripmonkey
    @Tripmonkey Před 25 dny

    The way I've always practiced racing games, is to try and drive around the track without using any brakes (or crashing lol), getting faster as you go on.
    This teaches you about the basic feel and handling of the car, layout of the track, and what speeds you can take the corners at.
    Works for me :)

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 25 dny +1

      Very interesting approach, haven't heard that one yet. 👍

    • @thesweetteasystem1108
      @thesweetteasystem1108 Před 21 dnem +1

      While i think thats a bit of an odd way to explain it yeah i do that too or at least similar as i may start out over braking but i just keep using less and less each time till i actually leave the track from not braking as well simply put I've learned an important mantra so to speak which is "the longer your on breaks the less time you spend accelerating the faster everyone else will be"

    • @Tripmonkey
      @Tripmonkey Před 21 dnem

      @@thesweetteasystem1108 It's best used by complete begginers tbh.
      Although, it can be a nice challange if your just bored one day ;)

  • @coraleestedile5061
    @coraleestedile5061 Před měsícem

    I practice trail braking to make more of each corner

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před měsícem

      Also very valid reason to practice and something I need to do more as well. I wish there was a mode in ACC, where you practice one corner over and over to really nail the trail braking.

  • @01Peebee10
    @01Peebee10 Před 23 dny

    Come race with us at Sim Seniors, we'll get your times down. My pace has improved a lot recently from just trying to keep up with our resident alien. He's doing low 56s at Silverstone.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 22 dny

      Just looked up Sim Seniors, I don't quite yet qualify for the age threshold, maybe in a few years. 😅

    • @01Peebee10
      @01Peebee10 Před 22 dny

      @@HDeeRacing Nor did I when I joined. We have a few early 30s drivers, but they've proved themselves to be sensible on track.

  • @ihavealife002
    @ihavealife002 Před měsícem

    I'm just trying to learn how to trail brake consistently in the 992 without dying, and getting on the throttle out of corners quicker, again, without the 992 killing me.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před měsícem

      Haven't driven the 992 much, but from what I've heard it's not an easy car to drive.

  • @khorsus7403
    @khorsus7403 Před 7 dny

    Very good video. Hotlap mode is plain self delusion and unrealistic. Even for practicing for quali. Your tyre state for each lap changes, on hotlap mode it doesnt. I think also nobody should start an online race if they are unable to do 5 consecutive laps within half a second window.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 7 dny

      Thanks! Hotlapping is so tempting, especially for people just starting out with sim racing. But that's one of the reasons I made this video. There should be more of a threshold for joining multiplayer races I think. Track medals and SA are not enough, but I also don't know how to enforce a higher standard outside of a platform like LFM.

  • @mr.bernie6198
    @mr.bernie6198 Před měsícem

    What are your camera settings? According to some calculators I should use a 17° FOV (because I don't have enough space to get closer to my TV) but I am not sure about it. I changed the position where I sit further to the back but well.... Don't know what I think about that and the simulated head movement by the game.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před měsícem +1

      My settings are 39° FOV, though I have to say that I use a 21:9 monitor. FOV calculators work to a degree. I should be using something like 29°, which limits my vision way too much. So I tend to sit somewhere between best visibility and "realistic" FOV. I don't adjust any other settings, like seating position, much, just a little.
      I totally get that if you can't get close to your monitor or TV the "correct" FOV gets really weird, so I would just stick to something, that feels natural to you.
      On the topic of head movement, I use "Real Head Motion", because I just get dizzy from the default head movement in ACC: www.assettocorsa.net/forum/index.php?threads/real-head-motion-for-acc-is-here.63606/
      The camera option "Lock to horizon" (view settings->motion) is an alternative, if you can't/won't use external tools.

    • @mr.bernie6198
      @mr.bernie6198 Před měsícem +1

      @@HDeeRacing thank you for that!

    • @baronsamedi4n6
      @baronsamedi4n6 Před měsícem

      Is your primary goal realism or fast laps? They don't always go hand in hand. You gain more accurate information in the center of your view to react to with a realistic FOV, but you also lose information on the periphery that can make it harder to be situationally aware. There is no objective right balance, so experiment and find the best balance that maximizes your ability to reach your goal.
      Fwiw, I find it relevant to consider that looking thru a 14 degree keyhole is not a realistic representation of any sort of real world auto racing. So maybe let loose on that requirement a bit and respect the constraints of your situation.

    • @mr.bernie6198
      @mr.bernie6198 Před měsícem

      @@baronsamedi4n6 good answer. I try to figure it out and do some further testing. It's incredible how different a 20 FOV is compared so a 30. The sense of speed changes drastically

  • @dvanz7002
    @dvanz7002 Před 29 dny

    Any tips to get SA rating higher so you can joins leagues seems to go really slow for me.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 28 dny

      Doing races against AI is the safest way I know (apart from driving online with just 1-2 friends who are dedicated to help you improve your rating). Generally you will gain more safety rating if you drive close to other cars for extended periods while not hitting anyone.

  • @F1Guy-Guy
    @F1Guy-Guy Před 27 dny +1

    The main problem is that Lewis Hamilton guy doesn't even bother and still managed to be the goat hence why people hate him even more

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 27 dny

      🤷

    • @F1Guy-Guy
      @F1Guy-Guy Před 27 dny +1

      @@HDeeRacing Hammer Time nonsense business has started again

  • @CoryG1981
    @CoryG1981 Před měsícem +1

    Pro tip for cars being lapped . HOLD YOUR LINE THEY WILL GO AROUND , pay attention to them will cause loss of concentration and a wreak could happen instead like in IRL hold the line they will go around the worst tip all these creators give is Watch for them ITS BS

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před měsícem

      For races, where you are being lapped, I would agree. You should notice them, but focus on your own driving. It's so easy to make a mistake otherwise.

  • @DrR1pper
    @DrR1pper Před 24 dny

    Practice (at the very minimum) makes habits.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 23 dny +1

      It does. And sometimes bad habits if you're not careful to look at your driving. 😯

    • @DrR1pper
      @DrR1pper Před 23 dny

      @@HDeeRacing indeed and I agree with you. The point of my comment was to say as much without saying it, as a habit formed does not necessarily mean it shall be a good habit. Intentional practice of good habits is likely to lead to good habits whereas mindless practice almost always leads to bad habits.

  • @jedrek1521
    @jedrek1521 Před měsícem

    Practice makes permanent, not perfect

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před měsícem

      That's a good way of putting it. 😅

  • @arctwosix4331
    @arctwosix4331 Před 27 dny

    Oh man, you're trying to teach people to be fast, and learn how to be fast, when you are not even that fast yourself.. start doing 57's around there, and you're game to teach people... other than that, you are attention seeking. .

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 27 dny +1

      This video is about how to practice to become better than you currently are. This can benefit both slow and very fast drivers and everything in between. My intention is to contribute positively to the sim racing community.

    • @arctwosix4331
      @arctwosix4331 Před 27 dny

      @@HDeeRacing The Line between thinking you are contributing positively, and feeling like you have to make different content from others to gain views is very thin..
      the only time someone can show others h ow to get faster, when they have gotten as fast as the fastest guys.. right now you are atleast a second and half at best off pace.. that renders your position as a teacher mute, until you can atleast shave a consistent second off that time..
      Ps it is a great idea of a video, from the likes of Morad and so on.
      Just my ten pence.

    • @HDeeRacing
      @HDeeRacing  Před 27 dny +1

      I just make content on things I enjoy and that I think others might enjoy as well. It won't be for everybody and that's fine. Not forcing anyone to watch. And if the content is different from others, then that's a good thing imo. 😅
      I know I'm not the greatest driver and never claimed to be - which is why I don't make videos like "how to get as fast as the pros" - I'll leave that to the fast guys.
      Not quite sure why you think I need to hit a specific lap time, before I can make videos trying to help people improve. I still think I can contribute with videos like this, which is why I will continue to do so. 😊