Did South Park Just Declare WAR on WOKE?
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- čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
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I was gonna fix the editing mistake at 22:57, but I was too lazy
Hi, the handymen keep the panderstone unstable. Immediately after the handymen step through, the news man says "everyone is in the right place". But they aren't. I'm not done yet but you said you don't get "why the handymen". I heard stuff about it being a 3 parter before it was released.
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Dude, I actually thought that was part of the video and you were putting it in the background to remind us 😂
Printstream is a W skin. You should post some more clips or shiw inventory that would be interesting.
@@Bruniy Haha, you're right! If only I had recognized that irony and made a joke about it in the pinned comment!
The joke isn't "Woke = Bad", the joke is "Disney insulting their audience by throwing women of color into everything and expecting people to praise their fake progressiveness instead of creating a good movie with well written women of color characters = bad"
Also my favorite part of the special is the lore drop that Randy has a doctorate. Randy Marsh is a doctor.
Disney insulting their audience by throwing women of color into everything thats say all ...if you are so snowflake this insult you then its your thing
That's half the joke. The second half is that people who go around calling everything woke = also bad. Everyone is conveniently ignoring that part.
@@reddz7240 Fax. All those nerd anti-woke youtubers that are cherry picking what parts of the special to talk about and forget about conveniently forget about that part.
@@BootySnacc beause they didnt get that ...
I thought the joke was being lazy and using things like pandering (this applies to both Disney and the anti-woke reactors), AI, or “the multiverse” as an excuse to be lazy.
I think the funniest part about the cast is Cartman's change. He became "Woke" by being the "Angry Black Woman" stereotype. It's not exactly the only time that happens here but it's the most prominent.
With South Park's writers, I'm willing to bet that this was intentional and maybe a commentary on how some of the shows made to pander still fall back to contributing to offensive stereotypes.
Thank you!! It seems like most dudes in the 15-35 demo see the episode and think "HA! Libs owned!!" without seeing the irony in their statement
@@thestraydogthey literally forget which character is having the nightmares of wokeness, ERIC CARTMEN. The character you’re never supposed to agree with. They missed the point of “pandering is annoying and bad but it’s stupid to complain and boycott stuff with just a minority in it”
@@Steven9567 tf are you even talking about
@@Adamant_Adam acting dumb are you whats hard to understand
@@Steven9567hey make sure you copy and paste your lame ass comment under every single comment in the video. You've done it on almost all of them at this point in your desperate bid for attention
I love how they intentionally parodied Disney's weird portrayals of people of color. The black woman having giant gold earrings and the asian being alt/emo with hair highlights are really big trends when it comes to lazy pandering
Personally, I think Kenny's female design fits so much because it feels like a natural character instead of just a girl with Kenny's clothes on. You can see hints of his Mysterion persona through the purple accents, and the fact that she has the most makeup out of the main 4 also ties in to him being the most "mature" and "adult" kid out of the 4.
Personally i think Kenny's female design works is cuz she's a smoking hot baddie.
i agree shes really hot. and all that other stuff u said
True, she's hot
Agreed on that last sentence
what the fuck does that last part mean
The put a chick in it and make her gay joke was hilarious
And like any good joke it is beaten into the ground
@@reek4062 that's the point, to show how tired it is
@@motianton but shouldnt a joke be funny?
@@penileshenanigans2613 but shouldn't a point be clear
What's hilarious about it? As far as I know "gay" when applied to "girls" = means lesbian. So "gay chick" = "lesbian chick". So, where is the joke?
diverse cartman scamming kyle and his mom to build an epic gaming pc for baldurs gate 3 was fucking hilarious.
PC Principle in the regular universe implies an opposite, but NON-PC Principal in the Panderverse.
No, the point of the panderverse is that it is exactly the same, just minority swapped. Same characters, same story.
@@RminusOR You're no fun
Hes just right@@TheMilitantHorse
@@RminusORI think PC principal is not swapped in the other universe because of the 'ally's nonsense that woke LEFTISTS have about men in their circles and films.
Another thing to note that people never really talk about is that the Cartman-Kennedy is not just a bash on Kennedy, but is the literal embodiment of Cartman's bigotry and Kennedy's pandering, they quite literally "Made each other" and that's who she represents, she pushes the "woke agenda" but in such a way that she acts as the stereotype that conservatives expect woke to act, aggressive, loud and without regard. Especially with the line "put a chick in it and make her gay and lame"
No, the woke bs appeared first and only after it its rightful criticism. They didn't "build each other"
Cartman-Kennedy is a real representation ok KK for me
Then you are exactly who the show is actually representing. Because you have no real idea of anything.
Yes, it's a commentary on how fans view KK.
Lol that makes no sense. She acts in a predictable way becouse she does. And conservatives just pointed that out.
A problem pandering has caused that no one talks about is that a POC actor can't just get a role if they are the best actor, people just assume it's pandering
examples?
The director says Halle Bailey was chosen for the little mermaid for her singing voice, and many animated shows design the character after the voice actor
@@kidnicky7489people originally mad at Django for being black because he wasn’t originally, the little mermaid being casted for her singing but everyone assumed pandering, the force awakens having a black stormtrooper people assumed was pandering
The biggest issue is when they adapt something that already existed and change it for no reason.
@@juna8572so with the black stormtrooper, we had no idea at the time that they weren't using clones anymore, so the issue was more with continuity than anything. I actually think the line about stormtroopers no longer being clones because they failed Vader was put in because they legitimately forgot that stormtroopers were all supposed to be clones.
Detective Harris having the same exact voice in the Panderverse gave me side-splitting laughter the entire scene. Could barely keep my eyes on the screen I was laughing so hard
Cartmans reaction was great
I know right, scissor me Timbers dude
Wasn’t even remotely that funny. Grow up.
From a Star Wars fan, I don't have any issue with a diverse cast, I don't have an issue with Rey being the character. What upsets us is that Kathleen Kennedy makes shallow films with zero character development. It's lazy writing and pandering to women being "perfect" and not her simply pandering for the mere sake of having diversity.
People who get mad about diversity in star wars are hilarious,
@Achillesnic yea, it's dumb af. Idk how folks live in the US or Canada and can't handle diversity.
Yea, white people are 67% of the US, but a galaxy far far away isn't the US, and there are places in the US where white people are the minority.
Also, more women are college graduates than men at the moment, and the wage gap is closing, im not sure why folks would expect women to continue to take the back seat.
It sucks that some certain CEOs think women need to be portrayed as perfection rather than likable people.
What? You didn’t like a black character with a really cool high potential origin story being reduced to a one dimensional pathetic joke?
Shocker
@MaticTheProto was so pumped to see more Finn in the second movie- he had a lot of great moments inthe first movie
@@madisonlee2203 yeah. Aside from the whole immediately shooting his former friends thing.
But after ep.7 he was degraded to an idiot
I like how it's about laziness and pandering and apparently that only means it's "anti-woke"
The culture war is dumb.
Very dumb. It would take something batshit insane going down for it to stop, even then though, it probably wouldn't lol.
My husband is a handyman who fixes appliances. And I, for one, love that people don't even try to fix their own shit. It's a great market to get into.
But also, Tbf a lot of the new appliances require some level of intelligence on the subject to do it as well. And alot of people don't have time for that.
Well why does technology exist
So things can be done easier
Why are things done easier
So people don’t have to put as much effort in
Everything was always about being lazy, and it’s really easy to score big based off that
There will always be a spot for the thing people could absolutely do but aren’t willing to get off the couch and do
@aerickmon3350 that's why DoorDash is so popular too.
@@aerickmon3350okay I know what my new business idea is! I let people sit on my face and then eat their shit so that they don't have to get up to go to the bathroom!
r/wooosh, you missed the whole point. And I get a talk here, raised blue collar working white collar aerospace engineering sitting at a desk. I am particularly looked down on for not securing a job on an oil rig, or pipeline, or military by all of my peers and more. Wouldn't be the first time I've heard "oh so you think you're better than us college boy" when I had worked just as hard, if not more, as a teen on the ranches. I've also had to deal with being 18/19/20/21 seeing my peers buying houses $100k+ trucks, laughing, as I've only at 25 got settled through school In a hell of a position but still not oil rig $ 100K+ a year (with no school debt playing it smart and also taking a blue collar value of experience over education)
But guess who's laughing now with a functional body, not dead or mutilated in a horrible work accident, not an alcoholic with 3 ex-wives and 70 kids, not living in a trailer struggling to find and keep high paying work and again I have a body of a 25-year-old at 25 not a 65-year-olds and will only continue to earn more, not dying from lung issues welding, not blind, no child support, a fast car, get to chill (mostly) in a chill temperature regulated building, and make stupid little small talk around a water cooler. You know what? Being outside is nice, and i do-do that. But I have to admit, I feel like a king. I know I am no better, and very few actually do. It tends to be the other way around if i go where I'm from and answer "what do you do" with "I sit at a desk", it's an instant witch hunt or "your parents must be so disappointed" Hardly outside of California gender studies people do we ever think we are better (we think our decision was better for us, labor is not for everyone). If I have kids, I will try to push them to education; in the long run it's the better option, if not today. How many 80 y/o's are there on oil rigs? Not much. Guess how many old coot engineers there are that have been doing it since the dawn of time?
Best part is I'm everyone's favorite engineer, even techs and mechanics (we don't typically get along, as I'm sure your husband has cussed about) I have both sides view point. I work on my car and my stuff, I know the struggle. More often than not, I take XYZ out to the shop, first of course putting on my big boy pants knowing I'm going to hear nothing but cussing, tools being flung, nudie posters and boy am I going to hear about being in the shop and ill happily give it right on back. Anyway I take XYZ, I go "hey I'm working on this, here's my thought process what do you think, let's both help each other out" Almost always I get some valuable insight if not through some rough skin, I have quite the positive relationship when other engineers will do anything to not go in there
One aspect I see the episode rarely gets praised for is how they handled black female Cartman. She isn't used to make some point about how Cartman is a terrible and prejudiced person like most "woke" media would in a situation like this. She just IS a terrible and prejudiced person like Cartman. Only difference is the whole race and gender thing being reversed.
It was pretty on the nose when they called black Cartman a racist, to which she replies "you can't be racist against white people." That was clearly a dig at "wokeness," or at least elements of it. Arguably the entire point of black Cartman was to point out the fact that "wokeness" is in many ways just an inversion of the bigotry they claim to be fighting. They're interesting reflections of one another and it was a satirical stroke of genius.
The thing is you really can’t be racist towards black people tho, idc what y’all say. They made a whole episode about how white people can’t understand how it feels to hear slurs (Jesse Jackson)
its a jab at how irrelevent race swapping is to begin with...as making cartman a black woman literally brings nothing new to the table..shes still the selfish biggot cartman is...because shes carman
reminds me of a quote from teh justice league
"Everything that exists has a specific nature, each entity exists as something in particular and has characteristics that are part of what it is. "A" is "A". And no matter what reality he calls home, "Luthor" is "Luthor" ~ the question
@@dakotastein9499no it was quite clearly a jab at hypocrisy from a lot of left leaning people in todays society. you can cope though.
I aggree with certain sections of what this youtube bot has to say
@@nicorobin7762Good argument. Unfortunately you are a dumbass.
I just watched it. I loved it. Cartman apologizing to Kathleen shocked me a bit, and I was a bit surprised at how Kathleen Kennedy wasn’t a mockery like most celebrities are. Even a nod that feels like Matt and Trey give the benefit of the doubt to her when she says they have to try harder and not pander and Bob Iger just “we’ll see” which is just a “no.”
But the Randy plot was better and I loved nether commentary on how repair people become unaffordable for everyone because they all start bidding against each other to get it now and offering more and more, instead of just waiting a bit.
Yeah, I don’t know why they didn’t go harder at Disney. You think Disney threatened them to go easier on them?
female kenny kinda bad though
Not even wrong
Ah yes, men of culture I see, lol.
literally bro, female kenny is bad af
They all are
They declared war on woke when they added PC principle as a character. Anyone who actually paid attention to the special knows this was their way of saying that in hindsight they now think the whole culture war thing is kinda dumb and both the woke and anti woke movements are cringe.
I don’t know when I watch the shit I just go with it
Being honest I just think they are making fun of both making fun of woke and anti woke
On the topic of spider man and Miles Morales
the new spider man 2 game
youtube title:
Spider-Man 2 is Disgusting, Woke Propaganda
URL:
/watch?v=PnYPEfhmGlE
So instead of fighting dangerous criminals or monsters, in this game spider man spends his time helping one GAY guy to ask out another GAY guy.
And you can't even go away when they meet , you are FORCED TO WATCH their interaction.
And this is just one example of all the WOKE, SOCIAL JUSTICE , LEFTIST nonsense in this game... omg.
Captain Hindsight.
Why is it a war? So we can use 2 ‘w’s?
I think this show's general message was that you can take 2 people who are opposites in terms of woke/anti woke, send them into the absolute extremeties of both sides and they essentially become indistinguishable from each other
pretty much; the "culture war" is just children yelling at other children
Two sides of the same coin, if you will
@@TheScrootch Yeah literally, one wouldn't exist without the other. That's basically the whole point
The Horseshoe Effect.
Horseshoe theory look it up
Nerdrotic acknowledged South Park, making fun of him.
That's probably the one and only self aware and functioning braincell he's got
@@Thareldis Trump 2024
@@lanehappel429124:22 😂😂😂no offense but mail in ballots will 🎉🎉🎉 and RINO will F orangeman again
@@ejs7861 Did the black-pill feel good going up your ass?
@@lanehappel4291May I say it's mighty cringe to advertise your beliefs
Game theory joke hit differently knowing mat pat is gone now 😢
About time he left too.
…Why do people miss him? He made a living making bland, poorly researched internet junk food and bailed.
@@rubyy.7374 Yeah it's not like he built an empire and did a lot of real life events as well or anything.
@@rubyy.7374where is your father?
Yeah, good riddance. Y’all are fucking weird for idolizing him.
A funny thing to note is that Stan Lee was really against replacing characters with alternate versions just to pander and now Disney has control of his creations.
(*edit also funny to note that I wrote this before exactly two of my 3 references were mentioned)
Rough quote of Stan lee's belief being "Peter Parker will never be gay, Peter Parker is a straight white man, Spiderman can be whoever you want, create new characters and play with the roles and situations." This was in response to the US conservative getting their nickers in a knot over Miles Morales being Peter Parker turned Latino/African... which he went on the record to say wasn't what Miles Morales is, he's his own character taking up the mantel of Spiderman, in his own way. Also important to note that Stan lee was probably one of the biggest allies of the LGBTQ+ movement to have lived, with X-men being an obvious reference to their struggle for equality and how people should be accepted for who they are, as long as they are good people.
The idea being, that any gender/ race etc swapping for inclusion is just as lazy and silly as white washing but can also be just as destructive to the meaning of the story like WoT's plot which is centred on race and gender, with the characters learning the anti racism and sexism truths which should be the societal standard along the way. So obviously changing those things is a stupid move.... which amazon did in almost all instances possible. for those who haven't had the pleasure to read that series: Nynaeve is a raging feminazi with anger management issues at the beginning of the story who learns to see men as equals and not idiots she has to take care of as part of her job... the anger part stays! XD as the story goes her internal screaming about idiotic men slow turns to calling everyone except those she trusts and respects idiots. Equality for all!
It also makes no sense to have black characters in a story set in medieval northern Europe when there was 1000000 Caucasian people per person of colour (I looked it up), without that being a major plot point, constantly mentioned, used to refer to them etc. This is why I was against the new little mermaid, if you were to take the context of where the story takes place (Denmark) and when (hundreds of years ago), then the little mermaid coming onto land as someone of the African race would at the least be a main plot point to the level of her later being revealed to be a mermaid, which would undoubtedly muddy the story with too many things to handle... especially if you consider her being a mermaid as already being a reference to race.... Imagine if you will if he heard the singing when she swam from her boat and hid among the rocks scared about being caught alone by men and when he met her for the first time she, the daughter of a tribe leader from Africa on business with his father, was using a magical disguise to hide her racial features since she was worried he wouldn't accept her race and didn't reveal her status since she was only along to see the world and only later he learns that she was black. See what I mean? Same story!
Make new characters and put them in settings which make sense, write more of a background then "is diverse" and the only people who complain will be racists, sexists etc.
With the case of little mermaid it is literally a fish human I don't think that they are trying to replicate reality at all, in fact majority of Historical entertainment seems to take place in world's where racism doesn't exist eg Brigerton, The Great etc mainly because it is just creative media and it is NOT Historically accurate and strictly for entertainment purposes as it is fiction people are taking stuff too seriously as if they are autobiographical documentaries, however i agree Disney cant make good original content anymore and all live actions are cash grabs it's best to go watch other stuff like The Boys or sum cause it's not looking like it will get any better
Have you watched Elfen Lied? It's Inspired by a German Poem about racism which was using elfs as a stand in for other races.@@justbones8795 It was pretty standard practice to talk about issues of race in the format of non human entities which yeah is pretty racist.
but yeah fully agree about disney being mostly a don't watch category now. @@justbones8795
@@justbones8795It is a white story, European mythology. Non-whites have no place there. Nor do they have a place on Olympus, nor do they have a place in the Victorian era British royal house. Make your own stories, about your own people.
@@justbones8795 except its literally based on european mermaid fantasy and originally written by a european for europeans and a part of a larger set of european fantasy wherein a west-african makes no sense. isn't this what you americans call cultural appropriation?
They have a huge closet filled with great stuff they could use for real representation. Static shock, spawn and blade are just a few they could make. Not only would it bring more representation but also stuff people want.
this stop race swapping characters that already exist, make some new ones instead... stop focusing on preaching and instead just tell a good story.
Which is the Issue... why make Superman Black if you got Icon.. and ppl want to see that...
Or static Shock which ppl have been asking for since the 90s
I would loooove a Static live action show or movie.
I don’t want this ceo to touch the spawn universe at all omg they would absolutely train wreck it with wokeness and prolly make spawn a gay woman or trans look at how they destroyed Blade
@@vernonherbThey tried to bring back Static Shock and one of the first things he did was murder some guy, then justify it via the other guy's race.
People in professional settings seem to have forgotten how to write decent stories.
I like how diverse now means only one group of people. Witch is the exact opposite of diversity.
I’ve felt this way for a long time. How is Latino representation is media these days? It’s still the same one dimensional Mexican characters and technically 50% of Miles Morales. We just don’t complain about it because we have DBZ
@@TheNutshaqshoutout my Latino brothers and sisters who treat DBZ like a cult alongside my black ass, RIP Akira Toriyama
Pretty much, that shitty Cleopatra "documentary" where they blackwashed the entirety of egypt for pretty much no reason beyond wanting their history to look good instead of just doing a series on lesser known tribes will always make me chew ice chips from how mad I got at the ruination of history
@@bobbyshewan4229 RIP Akira Toriyama, the god of the cartel
damn what a way to put it
I like how they poked fun at all the design stereotypes for diversity stuff. You completely missed it but Kenny's design, the asian girl with bits of dyed hair, was one of those.
The Miles Morales multiverse movies are also one of the best variation on the multiverse theme that we have, everything about them is fantastic. The characters are beautifully developped, the plot is good and the animation is just mindblowing. It's really the best comparison they could choose to face Disney's lazy live action remakes.
Family guy and the Miles Morales Spiderman are the only valid multiverse formats to my mind😂
@@Noodles1922unbelievably so, I couldn't play it cause every five minutes some NPC was talking shit on my race.
@@Noodles1922 Bro's racist and sexist and thinks the majority would agree with them lmao
Why don't you call him spider man?
@@Noodles1922is justice league tas woke for replacing hal jordan with john stewart?
This special was genius and the fact that a lot of reactors completely missed parts of the point of the episode just shows how genius Matt and trey are
Yes if you can make people miss the point of the thing you make then you are a genius.
@@steven401ytxor you know your making a point and someone is just too dumb too see it
@@steven401ytx when you outsmart moronic reactors and make them like something that generally goes against their own points. Yeah that’s pretty genius
@@NotSOBBB23 I don't understand. You must be genius.
@@steven401ytxwow at least someone admitted most just try to drag it down to their level of stupidity you're rare good sire
To be fair to cartmen, writing 10000 letters a day isn’t lazy, that’s just fucking dedication
moral of the story , screw both sides of the extreme
Fun fact. Asian characters with purple hair streaks are apparently offensive because it's a stereotype of them being rebellious or something like that
It is
Really? I thought it was any color other than black
@@hadrian8712 I guess purple is the most common
Asians don't really complain as a group anyways though.
I thought it was because so many anime characters have colored hair.
Actual conversation I had about this special
Me: “anti woke people really missed the point”
Other commenter: “nah nah they speaking facts”
Me: “ok so which character was having nightmares about wokeness”
OC: “Cartmen”
Me:”The same cartmen that is a literal nazi?”
He then blocked me
To be fair though he’s not really a Nazi. Just an idiotic bigot who display traits of racisim, sexism, xenophobia, and anti-semitism while ironically end up putting on the Reich while displaying such behavior.
So basically he is a Nazi but not given the rank of Nazi (Star Wars reference)
Lol
and then everyone clapped
@@nicorobin7762 Yes because arguments about wokeness NEVER happen on the internet. That would be ridiculous. 🙄
I’ve seen people with Cartman-specific South Park collections (like, walls full of various photos of him) so unfortunately people being weird about him isn’t anything new
Good analysis. This analysis not only explains the full story of what's being parodied, but also points out the bias in media that's easy to come across.
This is why I sub to you, you do the work, explain your opinion, and don't pander, are not lazy, and do what You feel like doing. Miles was an amazing character, I have yet to watch through the spider verse, but I did watch the first one, and it follows what its supposed to follow. Black captain america also follows the comics to an extent. Whereas black Ariel does nothing. Let's take the elementals for example, its a good movie with a good story that talks about all the problems in todays world without making it all about those issues, or being a boring movie because they try to drill in that lesson. So many people who hate on most Disney movies thought that it was amazing.
I think that the misrepresentation of this episode can be refuted easily by one single scene.
In an episode where they say that invlusive characters and multiverses are lazy, they take the time to explain why Miles Morales (Spiderman) is a great character. They praise a character that is in a movie with multiverses and inclusivity. It clearly show that the problem is lazyness and spider verse is everything but lazy.
expect it is lazy cause having a monkey spiderman makes no sense. its nothing more than a cash grab. they talk about it as if it was an already established character, but in order for other diverse characters of other characters to exist we have to make new ones. unfortunately, the bigot, neo nazis of the far right think that characters have to be the original race they were.
@@Steven9567what?
@@Steven9567hey make sure you copy and paste your lame ass comment under every single comment in the video. You've done it on almost all of them at this point in your desperate bid for attention
Yeah I loved the Miles Morales respect AND distinction! That’s one of the reasons I love Miles. He’s not supposed to be a black Peter. That’s kinda the whole point of his arc. As he’s first becoming his own Spider-Man he still compares himself to Peter.
@@Steven9567 found the guys who knows absolutely nothing about comics and speak on them like an expert
And before anyone calls people tired of the pandering bigoted or something, things like diversity and talking about social issues in movies and shows are not necessarily bad things. It's been going on for decades and decades, and people look back on those works with fondness. We have had characters of different skin colors, nationalities, orientations, etc. for the longest time, and even works like the X-Men are said to be symbolism of social issues such as the Civil Rights movements. I think what most people have a problem with the in-your-face, uncreative, shameless pandering that seems to get in the way of making good content because they focus more on that than making something good.
What does diversity actually add? I don't remember any minority children being hesitant to like Batman because he was white, and I saw no white people being unable to enjoy black characters in films either. Just look at sports, nobody is really focused on race and people of all backgrounds enjoy watching them. Diversity is neutral and doesn't add much, just make good media
@@metalmythology6282 I hear you. People can still like and relate to characters that don't look like them or live like them, but diversity and representation can still be beneficial. For example, representation can not only allow people to see people that look like them and have role models, it can also allow others to see people that are different from them which could lead to less stigmatization. For example, people seeing more gay people on screen may allow some people to not think being gay is so weird.
@@metalmythology6282 to put it in a single sentence, as a black guy i would've greatly appreciated seeing more protagonists who looked liked me growing up
@@malikharris5286 If some white kid said they enjoy white characters would you be ok with limiting actively attempting to create white characters instead of minorities? In America we are privileged to the best stories in the history of humanity, why would I care who the race of the characters are?
@@GO-GO_SO-SO Is there any significant stigma against being a minority at this point? In young generations even trans people are accepted. Im really unsure why you think a black or gay kid watching someone who looks somewhat similar to them would somehow benefit them. If a white dude came up to me giving a speech on how badly he needed white characters I would think he's a racist
12:59 hits so differently now, MattPatt will be missed :(
Thanks for the fun blooms. Keep up the great work ya Beautiful bastard
The Kyle cereal ending was a callback to the scene where 5429F Kathleen Kennedy asked the server to put a chick in the linguini with clam sauce and make her gay; you realize that that joke wasn't as absurdist as it originally sounded. It also makes me wonder if Trey and Matt have a 5249F KK-eats-gay-and-lame-chick-linguini vore/mukbang scene drawn in the vault.
omg, i totally missed it lmao
I haven’t watched South Park very much, and this entire comment felt like a bad adderall trip.
Kyle isn't a gay chick though?
The Linguini joke is just to pile onto the absurdity of adding gay females to things.
I think you people are insane get away from me
What was that last part?
I like how they mocked both sides equally as usual. The big difference is if you can just brush it off as a joke or if you take it seriously and act out because of it.
How did they mock the other side? Loved the special too
@@ryang7219because Cartman is the other side lmao😭😭😭. Cartman is being super overdramatic about the wokeness. It’s a joke about the anti-woke bros lmao.
@@godzillamaster34 love and respect but i dont think that's what that was. that's just cartman.
@@godzillamaster34 ya that is a weak joke oh "Cartman is being super overdramatic about the wokeness" that the "dig" ya That's all it's just Cartman is over the top as he always is but that's all ya they don't take pots shots at the "anti-woke bros" like not there point not the general arguments it
Equal? I'm sure certain side got the much bigger beating. Cartman was just a necessary call for respect.
I quite like the black Cartman, she’s a cool character
this might be the best video of urs, because i think u did a great job at spreading the message of this episode in a objective manner
i think my favorite thing about south park is how for the past 25 years people still can’t see that south park never chooses a side they say what they have to say about both parties
Except for Biden voters
South Park is THE show that pisses people off. If that ever stopped being true, it wouldn't be South Park anymore. It amazes me that anyone can go into it expecting not to get offended at something.
Royce....
......you clearly havent been watching south park then. they clearly have side to issues. they even had to apologize about being wrong on some issues. enjoy life under that rock.
Two words: Climate Change
Butters was the best part of the special, the voice actress did an amazing job with Butters mannerisms.
The special ends up being a good "Rorschach test" because you can look at it from either angle (Or both or neither) and get something different out of it according to what they want to see.
I LOVED their take on Butter's Apples song.
It's an example of nostalgic pandering in that they took something in the original material and gave it an over-produced version, but it's also SOOO GOOD.
"The special ends up being a good "Rorschach test" because you can look at it from either angle (Or both or neither) and get something different out of it according to what they want to see."
there's actually a name for that phenomenon! It's confirmation bias, which is the tendency to interpret new information as supporting your current beliefs. For example, if two people with disparate opinions on a particular topic both read a neutral article on said topic, both will interpret the article as supporting their viewpoint.
I think they handled this really well. South Park basically saying "stop forcing it, let it be natural" is the exact thing that was needed to say.
South Park is never on anyone's side. They hate everyone and everything and that's the brilliance.
They haven't gone anywhere near Biden. They have clearly picked a side.
@@RoyceRozeaGoing after Biden is low hanging fruit and you know it. There's nothing they can do to be funny, anymore.
Sometimes its easy to forget: no mater how much an episode of southpark seems to be an apology of your opinion, know that they are, without fail, poking fun at you too.
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An apology of my opinion?
This doesn’t make any sense.
Care to elaborate?
Edit: ugh “dOnt TreAd oN mE” flag as your profile pic.
Guess I’m
Not gonna get a nuanced answer here
Apology means explanation or 'case for' according to Webster. Is that what you mean? Or are you just offended by symbols of liberty?
@@vincenta8652 "Apology" here means "reasoned justification". The word "apologia" or the phrase "apologetics for your opinion" would have been less ambiguous. It is commonly used for justifications of religious doctrines/beliefs such as "Christian apologetics". Often apologetics have the flavour that they sound like solid justifications to those who share the opinion, but seem to be full of holes to those who do not. South Park here cleverly manages to include both woke and anti-woke apologetics, so that both extremes only recognise the justification for their own viewpoint. (I hope that is nuanced enough!)
@@vincenta8652 My guy immediately reacted to a fucking pfp and assumed the absolute worst. Talk about shit character.
I like how South Park making fun of Kathleen Kennedy wasnt even making fun of her, its just facts
Ok cartman
But still why didn't you put a chick in it and make it gay.😡😡😡
They made fun of her but cartman was a parody of the people who treat her like the boogeyman (cough yellowflash and the quartering cough cough)
right so wyites should be happy that they are losing their country@@garenthal9638
I somewhat agree like, they didn't even scratch the surface of how relentlessly they could have made fun of her, knowing Trey. The special came off as giving her a fair shake, and coming to a nice middle ground, which won't happen irl but hey, wouldn't it be nice.
I remember when Randy just goes up to Stan's room naked "Stan! How do you breed horses in minecraft?" "What?"
I absolutely loved this special. It was so well done and I laughed so much. 😂❤
The first 10 minutes got me laughing my ass off, Cartman on a rant and the black cartman being called out as a racist while Kenny doesn’t care about anything besides knockers is absolutely perfect
That special was a banger. It's hilarious and I find it funny. Matt and Trey are geniuses for creating a show that makes fun of the whole world. It's cool to think about it. As a side note it's just proof how ridiculous both sides can get. And because of this South park had to endure a lot of flak from the media and it's because they don't know how laugh at ourselves. Props for South park that opened my eyes and I finally got the memo that the show makes fun of people that pretends to care and people who are willing to take things to absolute extreme without questioning their morals.
politics 101: say shit you think people want to hear and make it about groups of people, that's basically identity politics- South Park has been on this case for 20 odd years
@@colinburroughs9871Not really. South park had never target specific group for the sake of it. Only people who pretend to care and those who are taking things to an absolute extreme.
@@BliTzeDGamesNice try but I'm an eastern european and I'm an atheist too.
@@itz_ic21gaming97 no, my point is 1000% accurate, but thank you
They did the usual South Park, hit both sides with perfectly valid criticism. Did it so well the cringe anti woke CZcamsrs didnt realise they were laughing at them almost as much. God i love South Park, Matt and Trey are geniuses
I mean, if you'd watch their videos, even as a critic of them, you'd see they're all very aware of that fact, even the worst ones. This continuously confuses me, people like you just declare outright victory and swear you're so smart, "b-but they were laughing at you" ok gives a fuck, I never use woke to describe it, but the anti-woke very much has a point and you're not right just because you say "haha, they dumb hicks" and not even talking about any of the arguments around the subject.
@chief3784 I did I watched Nerdrotic and someone else review it. Both of them called it an outright victory. Get off that high horse kiddo or you'll hurt yourself falling off
@@LordBathtub I don't watch nerdrotic and it seems to be the only reference you ever have but I did watch his panderverse and he most certainly acknowledged T&M "both-sidesing" the argument.
@@CHIEF__ ah so you don't watch him but conveniently watched this one? 🤔
@@LordBathtub Yeah it's like the one of two or so I've bothered to watch from him, he's too abrasive for my taste. But the Panderverse was literally about him so I wanted to see what he said and he was more fair than I expected.
I loved this little special and I also really agree with how Disney uses "hey look I'm the good guy I think woke culture is ok" as a excuse to push some more crappy movie replacing characters with a altered woke deuce version
But I really like south park it's my favorite show and I thought this special was really funny 🤣
Fantastic video. I especially agree with your point at 20:55. There are so many CZcamsrs that are making bank rehashing the same points, but people watching are so blinded by rage that they don’t even realize that they’re watching the same video with the same points every day (sometimes even multiple times a day).
True! From them all, the Critical drinker is one of the more decent! His whole shtick is being a drunken hater, but he will give praise when something is good. Besides, he's a writer, so he has some credentials! Nerdotic has a good take every now and then! Don't know if Filmamento is "antiwoke"? I don't think so but many call critics that if they just point out the lazy writing or call out the industry, similarly to South Park! But most are grifters 🤷🏻♂️
And this is why I like plague of gripes, he shits on things by nature (as the name suggests) but actually...thinks about it first?
I think South Park is just South Park. They called out everyone in this case like they always have.
The most accurate commentary I have heard on this is that they held the middle ground hard yet both sides will claim it as their own and conveniently abuse the points. Hell the pandering has already become a buzzword.
I am typing this while watching the video so he might address all of this and I could be a jack@$$.
@@myhandlewastakenandIgaveupthis is pretty much exactly what I was thinking.
@@deej751 That I'm a jackass? I kid. We live in a crazy world right now. Thats for sure!
they hold no ground they are just people who like to make fun of everyone @@myhandlewastakenandIgaveup
Yuppers
For this kind of videos is that i love being subscribed
Fantastic video, keep up the good work!
I find it weird that they had the whole "billionaires suck" when Bob Iger was literally in the episode. You can complain about bad pandering all you want but they didn't mention anything about Disney rushing to make like 5 mcu in a single year which is propably one of the biggest reason ther quality has crashed.
Disney has become retarded in record pace that probably even Matt and Trey can't simply comprehend.
Man, I just love this special. I loved seeing the different designs of each character 'diversified' and the va's and everything. It was fun. idc about the implications of wokeness and political messaging of it, I just think its hilarious and awesome
It's disturbing that anyone has a problem with 'woke' because I just means don't be a d bag.
@@BliTzeDGames And? I have never had a Jewish person try pushing their religion down my neck like other Christian religions.
Same! I love the designs.
I didn’t view this episode as a dig at “wokeness” but more at greedy companies who don’t care enough to make new POC characters, and instead just race swap old ones, but maybe I’m wrong
@@NearsightedNarhwalSame :)
@@BliTzeDGamesGesundheit
I appreciate the perspective that ISN'T woke or anti-woke. It's an actual unbiased, informed hot take on the state of pop culture and media in todays world. Great stuff
I have so much respect for people who take a more neutral, well thought out, and critically thought out approach to this sort of thing. And I'm not just saying that - I'm literally trans, so most would probably expect me to blindly agree with "woke" culture. All the points you made here are exactly what I agree with. I want inclusivity, but not at the cost of quality.
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i feel miles also works because its a completely different story and the original spider man has a part to play its a good continuation to spider-man
What about john stewart from justice league?
@misterboxhead3045 green lanterns are a group of space cops. The identity doesn't belong to just one person. Being called a green lantern is no different than being called a marine.
Since the title asked the question. No they did not. Their were plenty of cases to show the new 'woke' characters could indeed be good characters. It just took effort and time to properly write them. This is with all characters though not just the wokies. This is proven by the "We don't hate the 'strong female character'. We like good writing." Case in point, the abysmal handling of Rey in star wars versus the entirety of the show Arcane.
another good example of a strong female CHARACTER is Anne Boonchuy from Amphibia (I love Amphibia and just wanted a chance to bring it up)
@@nevaehhamilton3493 Edit your comment and delete everything after "according to my mom."
@@Jerberus you win this round, but you can't run away forever from the truth.
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I think thats true but in terms of the new Star Wars movie, people were furious before it even came out just because a woman was the lead. They totally fumbled on the writing but dude star wars fans can be so fucking racist or misognystic for some reason.
Great video! Loved your insight. ❤
i'ma be honest i don't watch south park. So when i saw the commercial for this i thought "they must love rule 34 artist"
Thanks for making this video. I couldn’t agree more. The theme of laziness is so well done in the special, and I really appreciate that you talked about that.
I can finally have an opinion about the special, thanks Blooms
Great review. Love your input
One of the ways you can tell that Bloom is a quality content creator is the fact that if he wanted to he could easily make a whole brand out of ripping into people who criticize South Park by (accurately) pointing out that most of the conversation around the show is between two sides that don't actually watch the show in its entirety.
The same way lazy "anti-woke" creators say the same things, Bloom could just as easily say this in every single video he makes but he doesn't and that's pretty admirable
as a black girl, i loved the new episode. these cooperations should make new characters, and if they really wanna race and gender swap, do it better, do more than changing the characters skin :/
fr tho. you deserve better than "x character but make it a black woman!"
you deserve original characters; you deserve to be *properly* represented
Literal trillion dollar companies and they think we're stupid enough to believe they can't hire 12 top of the line writers to write an original black character
But that was part of the joke
If anything, isint it sexist that women can only be represented through a male characters?
@@charlesburns7391 do you not what what sexist means!? Here's the definition;
characterized by or showing prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.
*I'm looking forward to the remake of **_"Single White Female"_** starring **_Eddie Murphy._*
Reminds of this nightmare I've had where I'm back in Elementary School and I'm surrounded by college girls who complain about nothing but the patriarchy.
Then I realize...
I'm in hell.
South park has always been anti woke before that was even a thing.
And somehow remained completely separate from the weird dude bros referenced in this vid, luckily
That's completely wrong.
@@sidnew2739 how so? 🤔
I wish that they could have done more with this episode honestly. There was so much happening and not everything seemed to have a proper bookend. Still funny as hell and a fun time though.
The anti-woke praise for the special sounds an awful lot like Plato talking about Atlantis; the point absolutely missed and taken at surface level.
17:00 Thank you for pointing this out. I stumbled across your channel today and instantly fell in love with the way you review the episodes. As a writer myself, I'm quite invested in the whole "writing thing," and it bugs me that people always push this absurd "woke" narrative, be it left or right. I don't like the term "woke" itself because these days it's nothing more than a buzzword. The real problem in modern media is lazy and contrived writing with little effort-playing it safe. The time where a film could be political and well-crafted is far gone because, instead of taking the effort of building up a beloved IP and targeting a core audience, it is replaced with leeching onto an existing IP and rewriting it. They even managed to miss the point of Star Trek, whose core was to encourage critical thinking, and replaced it with thoughtless pandering. As said, playing it safe is the crux. In an attempt to satisfy everyone, the entertainment industry dug up a very loud minority that caused them to change every slightly "controversial" take to not offend anyone. They overshot and landed in a pit where they started to offend even the default consumer.
Disney/Marvel is, in fact, the best example. They managed to draw in the casual crowd over years with narratively rather uncomplex stories and much spectacle. The spectacle entertained the audience, and the narrative drew them back in for the next film. But by pandering, they managed to forget the whole narrative part. Yes, spectacle was still there, but more and more rushed and bad in every step of production from writing to implementation. Characters were replaced with a carbon copy to save on the actor's salary, but the new one never got fleshed out. This, combined with the missing driving narrative, scared off the casual fans, leaving only the hardcore fans who were offended by their favourite character from the source material being replaced by a cheaper actor/new character. Parts of the production team starting to attack these hardcore fans escalated the situation even more to a point where it became a political debate.
I am a writer and game developer, so I know my fair share of producing entertainment. I never try to please everybody; that leaves me the freedom to be creative and produce a work of fiction that sometimes even ruffles some feathers and addresses a point the "offended" consumer perhaps never thought about.
My final plea would be: The modern entertainment industry has too much money at stake and, by this, needs to satisfy an audience so big that it can't exist. For sure, for one or two films, they will stick, but soon a new big thing will arrive, and they will wander off. So, to earn money, you need to address a smaller audience and to financially justify this, you need to spend less. Much like modern video games need too much computing capacity, modern "Hollywood" needs too much money. Thanks for sticking along for my TED talk.
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Sorry for the lengthy response, but your example with "Black Panther" isn't as compelling when scrutinized further. Personally, I dislike the film, not due to the representation, but because of the amateurish attempt to introduce a new faction into the overall world. The entire timeline doesn't align with this faction, as they appear either as selfish pricks or dumb. To keep this, edit short, I'll just highlight the contradictory points:
1. A highly civilized community that resorts to a 1vs1 death match to determine the next king.
2. This community lacks any instances of a "bad guy" utilizing the bloody hierarchy system to seize power and conquer.
3. This community shows little concern for their neighbours, despite being the most powerful nation on the planet, particularly during the recent times of colonization.
Everything you said stands, I just don't agree you need a lot of money to make good movies or games! They just need to be fun! Take Lethal company, Palworld or even Helldivers 2! Most, well everyone play games or watch movies to chill and not think about "current world issues"! I mean I like a "deep" movie! But not from every movie, especially not action or comedy! About comedies, when was the last good comedy made? 😏
@@androgynousmaggot9389 I think you misunderstood me there. I also don't believe that you need this amount of money to produce a good film/game. For sure, with more money, you can buy more spectacle and more expensive actors, but with the money, the needed investors come. They want a return on investment, so you have to play it safe. The result is a dull, rushed, and unimaginative product. For example, Cyberpunk 2077: Did it need Keanu Reeves as an actor, or would it have been better to invest this money in the development or save it and by this have less pressure from the investors? Plus, there are a lot of people that cost a lot of money and contribute nothing to the product. So yes, more money is not needed; quite the opposite, often it is even harmful.
that's polarisation, the harder you push in a direction the harder someone else gonna push in the opposite direction
People fighting about South Park being anti woke, conservatives fuel or r*cist, and all I can think is "damn, female Kyle and Kenny are so fing hot"
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Racist
Lol same. I'm ace but I saw them and was like "damn"
Short answer: No.
Long answer: South Park always make fun of every side equally, all people are flawed and ridiculous and best thing to do is to make fun of them. Nobody deserves to be a saint because no one can be.
Except Biden voters
There is a story of a black man that was sold into slavery to a group of Japanese people. He was freed and taught the ways of the samurai. An awesome story indeed. Instead of this they made took the "snow white" skin and the dwarves out of snow white and the 7 dwarves. Effectively doing blackface with extra steps.
He wanted to flex that butterfly knife 💀
The "flipping the script" trope you mentioned was taught to me in film school as a "Prince and Pauper plot" because that's the central conceit of The Prince and the Pauper. They switch places.
Why they made Kenny so hot?
Stan: "Oh my god, they f-ked Kenny!"
Kyle: "It should have been me, you b@st@rd!"
My favorite aspect was the message at the end. It was basically the same as post covid, cut each other some slack and move on.
Theres nothing that infuriates me more than hollow representation. I loved this special so much
Not knowing The rope and stove reference reveals your age -> Poltergeist. Love the content, keep it up
Dude if i had a dollar for every time "south park started a war" yadda yadda. Lighten up. Its funny as fuck.
Technically you could say “that’s just a theory a film theory” and it still works 😂😂😂
Big facts, channels like “The Quartering” makes it obvious that they will be extremely obnoxious about it & are championing this episode to their own aims without actually taking the note that it’s ripping on him and others, just like the super toxic fucks over on Twitter that are using this episode as the smoking gun that everyone is a misogynist etc etc etc.
It’s REFRESHING to see someone point out this fact.
I’ll be subbing now, cause it’s rare for someone to be relatively unbiased in their criticism’s to these things.
Thats because woke bs is that ridiculously disgusting.
Can we appreciate how they tried their best to make this amazing video for us 💖💖💖
South Park always makes fun both sides, and will always be a great social commentary on current events, even admitting when they are wrong
The fact that that I can imagine cartman using the doubling down arguement against his mum in one of the early seasons is what I think makes it a really smart story descision.
It feels like something that didn't require cartman to really change, which is something he just isn't capable of.
i love how your title specifically is like "look im targeting woke people", making those who hate woke end up watching it to the part where you show that the episode also attacks the lazy haters XD
The secondary story about AI and handymen was a strong premise but as you pointed out, its conclusion didn't really make sense, in my opinion it was kind of shoved to the sidelines. And cartman apologizing for hating wokeness was a lazy cop-out to technically scrutinize everyone. But it's completely out of character for cartman to surrender his position, the position that motivated him to write 10k letters a day of hate mail over. The focus of the episode was clearly taking a jab at woke diversity casting, the side story and double-edged ending are incomplete at best and an afterthought at worst. If they want to appear neutrally critical of everyone they should put effort into it. Cartman is a great vehicle for edgy/extreme ideas with a grain of truth to them, and kyle/Stan are great for tempering those ideas to be more moderately expressed. They almost had it and probably could have made a more well-rounded episode with an additional 10minutes of screen time.
As a Handyman type person (I do installations like tvs and intercoms and general stuff) I fricking loved this aspect being someone who does any repairs or fixes myself!
22:34 fix the *oven door* not toilet 👍
Thanks for another great analysis, man.
why do people always mis use the word woke. i thought it meant being aware of social issues but i guess not now 😂😂
it is, but people basically call anything with minorities "woke"
It basically became changed when it also got popular as a word
It's used in a sarcastic way that it has kinda lost its meaning now
There are two meanings depending on who you ask ever since I learned about that word it’s been that way when one means forced diversity the other means being aware
@@joshnaija1440Exactly. It’s kind of like the term SJW: a term only really used by people who dislike the thing.
Cartman jumping through the window when the other side was already open was great. 😂