Death of Stalin but it's just Vasily and Tarasov being bros
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- čas přidán 17. 04. 2022
- Richard Brake plays NKVD officer Tarasov... who is a separate character from Anatoly Tarasov who is the coach with Tarasov and Vasily at the ice rink.
Also, I did some basic colour grading for the deleted scenes. I did my best to match the film. Sorry.
Tarasov is a lot different from the version in the script. His lines are instead said by the random Red Army general at the ice rink and Mezhnikov in the deleted scene with the steel workers.
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Vasily is more of a tragedy case than an incompetent nepotism case
>His mother committed suicide when he was 11
>He was an alcoholic by 13
>He would spend the rest of his childhood locked in a house with only a security guard and maid
>He wanted to go to artillery school like his brother but his father refused and instead put him in pilots school
>despite being an air-force pilot his father never let him actually go on mission
>When he faked his name to go on mission and was found out he was given a desk job in Moscow for the rest of the war under guard
>Despite what the show says he was really into hockey, hence why his father gave him the team
>The team of nobodies shown won three championships and was actually good when he was forced to leave due to his dads death
>Khrushchev would have him arrested for 'anti-soviet propaganda' and spend 11 years in prison
>he would die two years out of prison due to chronic alcoholism
His life is more sad than it is goofy as in the movie
Reality tends to be more tragic and cruel than fiction
@@chambers0071 True, but it would be a shitty form of entertainment if the movie was depressing as fuck. Not to mention stirring sympathies towards arguably some of the worst people in human history.
Is it truly incompetence if no one apparently taught or properly raised him?
@@RedsHitpostMedia I mean authoritarian dynasties have been struggling with this kind of problem for all of human history. Ultimately it comes down to if there are no consequences for failure and you don't have to struggle to survive and thrive it ultimately detaches you from the concept of achievement itself. You look at all the truly great and visionary monarchs and dictators in history and hardly any of them come from a peaceful, well educated and groomed, or privileged background. Almost all of them had to deal with hardship in some form or another.
@@gladiater56 I'm not sure that really tracks. Alexander was raised in a ruthless environment by a warlord, but he was also the prince of an undisputed monarch and lived in luxury that few could even conceive of. Ceasar's family was impoverished...relative to other Roman senatorial families, but he still had a standard of comfort almost unheard of by any other peoples in the world at the time. Victoria, the most successful conqueror of the most successful empire in history, was born into rule.
Truly self-made imperial conquerors like Temujin are rare, and even the great Mongol empire didn't see it's territorial apex until Kublai, and Kublai was a grandson of Temujin who never experienced a world where his family didn't have complete control. Cyrus was self made and accomplished incredible things, but Achaemanid Persia's golden age came under Darius, a figure hand-picked by nobility.
Seems to me you have a much greater statistical likelihood of reaching the top if you start close to the top.
"I will not be silenced!"
"I know about the hockey team."
"I *will* be silenced!"
"You will not take me down!" Gets taken down.
"I will not be silenced!"
Gets shut up with six words.
"Medic!"
Gets his ass kicked. And no medic.
All of that in ten seconds.
Vasily yelling “MEDIC” the moment *before* getting punched always gets me
Why is everyone so down on him, he could see the future!!
I'm not an English person, so I don't really get what he's saying there. Is he really just calling for a medic because he knows Zhukov's gonna fuck him up?
@@vulpes7079 yes
*NOT TODAY!*
@@Ocker3because he can see the future
“Sometimes the shortest speeches are the most memorable.” I have no doubt Tarasov would’ve achieved world peace if appointed general secretary
Being Vasily's bodyguard must have been the worst.
I think being Uday Hussin bodyguard was way worst than this guy. I mean played for comedic effects but still I’m pretty sure Vasily wasn’t raping little girls…but I’m more of a “see and believe” rather than what others say.
@@Trash-Bambino I think being a bodyguard to any powerful dictator's son would be bad
latif yahia would beg to differ.
if you are friends with him then atleast you wouldnt get purged for no reason
I dunno, there are probably a lot of perks. Good pay, good dinners, you're relatively safe from purges. That, and Vasili strikes me as the sort of person who probably doesn't have a lot of real friends, but who is generous with the people who are obliged to spend time with him.
"Not today! You are a fucking stain on that uniform" Zhukov really is the best in this movie I love it!
Now I wonder if that is true, cause for a general just to beat the shit out of Stalin's son........actually no its fitting
Ironcally Vasily was actually a decent solder, being decorated for bravery and all the evidence suggests that it wasnt just nepotism. Anytime he ws actually in charge of people, though...
@@Albatross159 They gave him the medal because he WAS Stalin's son. He was actually pretty shit.
He even caused a massive air scramble during the height of the Moscow siege just for his own entertainment that he accidentally murdered his officer in the pursuit of some "F.U.N" and wasted precious Red Air Force's resource, resources that was vital and needed in defending the motherland against the incurring Germans.
So in early 1943, Vasily was given the rank of air marshal and he was supposed to be one of the highest authority in the region of Moskva where he'll direct all air combat and traffic roles in the region.
However, one day, he decided it was a good idea to take a bomber out for fun and try a low bombing attempt in a frozen lake. He ordered a bomber to take him for the activity but it was terribly wrong where the bomb detonated way too early, killed the pilot and scramble some fighters into the air as the airbases thought that German bombers had infiltrated the airspace somehow without warning and bombed Moscow itself.
It was such a biiig clusterfuck that he was removed from that command soon after that fiasco.
Svetlana - "Who did this?"
Zhukov - "I did and I enjoyed it, it's been a long time coming"
Haha this film kills me
I love how embarrassed Svetlana looks about Vasili's attempt to wrestle the NKVD guard for the gun. XD
I think she even glanced at the camera at one point like “wait, is this still rolling?” which feels like a very The Office kind of touch
@@TheGallantDrake I was literally thinking that it felt like a scene with Dwight and Pam 💀
“Soviet planes do not crash and Stalin’s son does not fuck up!”
That line is even funnier when you realize that Vasily basically fucked up every job that his dad gave him
Sort of. He was given jobs above his station (promoting him to general in the Soviet air force when he didn't have the skills to be a general), but as a pilot he performed well.
@@podemosurss8316 so is essence his fuckups are his fucked up father's fault.
RBMK reactors do not explode…
@@podemosurss8316True, and he probably got promoted so high so there was less likelihood of him being captured like Stalin’s other son Yakov. Though ironically Stalin used to think Yakov a disappointment but hearing how he was a defiant captive he gained some respect from him.
2:43 Vasily: I will not be silenced
2:45 Perverted old man: I know about the hockey team
Good description for beriya
Seeing the death of stalin again, feels like watching the office, but russian
Based on that you’ll love The Thick of It if you haven’t seen it, same writer and director
Except there isn't jim stare and interview
*but soviet. soviet and russian are two different things. for example beria and stalin were georgian.
@@shesh2265 i know man, but does a quick gag have to be intelligent now?
Only true friends can fight over an unloaded gun for half a minute and then get in the same car
0:13 "We will order the plane to remain unaffected by its overloaded cargo" -Commander of the Soviet Pacific fleet before his demise
"I will not be silenced!"
"I know about the sausage plane."
[Silence]
was that actually what he said in real life?
@@frondaro yea, and about 10-13 high ranking officials were killed. They thought the guy who decided not to take the plane ride caused it for a bit until they realized how bad they fucked up.
@@frondaro czcams.com/video/ZU1f47SC_A8/video.html
@@frondaro This is in reference to the Pushkin airfield disaster. It happened in the 80s when the commander of the soviet pacific fleet was going home from a meeting in Moscow with his staff. Being high ranking soviet officials they had used the opportunity to go shopping where they bought among other things massive rolls of printing paper for the fleet newspaper. This severely overloaded the plane but the they threatened the pilot with being fired and thus ordered him to take off anyway, due to this excessive weight the plane stalled shortly after takeoff killing all onboard.
After binging death of Stalin clips as of late, I never knew this community was still going so strong four years later, and I absolutely love it
Vassily called for a medic as soon as he saw Zhukov storming towards him. :-D
Yes well done you managed to watch a clip and comment on it adding nothing of your own. Tomorrow try the weather.
I still think they could have done a trilogy of this.
The Death of Lenin
The Death of Stalin
The Death of the Union
In death lenin we see how stalin climbing to become and how he defeat nazi
Oh my god that's brilliant
There is a trilogythat sort of covers all of those events, its written by Stephen Kotkin. But the third volume is still being worked on.
As much I want this the topics covered are so unimaginably dark and horrifying that its hard to imagine how they would cover it and turn into a comedy without it being so depressing. Even in this movie the crimes of Beria and deaths of millions in the gulags are kind of skimped over (and understandably so)
"What plane crashed? There was no plane crashed. Was there a plane crash?"
Laughed more than I should have.
Funny but also true
Imagine surviving Germany's genocidal invasion, going to officer's school for about a decade, being promoted to lieutenant colonel and then...having to be the NKVD handler for Stalin's son. Disappointment!
That’s why Tarasov is my FAVOURITE character in this movie.
“He’ll send you to Siberia you rude fucking pies”😂😂😂😂
Stalin also had one non-useless son, and let him rott in German captivity.
Yet he hated him with a passion.
To be fair, as some historians (even anti-communists), it is hard to believe either Roosevelt or Churchill would accept a proposal like the one the Germans made to free Stalin's son. Also, in a time when so much sacrifice was being asked (demanded, actually) from the Soviet people by its leaders, with som many dying or being wounded or captured (let us, by the way, not forget how harsh Soviet official policies on surrender were), it was unthinkable to acdept a deal for Stalin's son.
@@thiagodeandrade7081 didn’t Roosevelt’s son get shot down and killed, then the Germans gave him a funeral in full honors like he would have received if he was back in the states because they respected that a presidents son for still going off and fighting?
@@thiagodeandrade7081 oh i thni stalin did so many unthinkable things that he would care if he wanted him to survive
@@Har1ByWorld Maybe, but most things he did could either be justified as necessary for the cause (like crushing dissent even inside the party, purging the State and repressing nacionalisms and religions), for something bigger than he was or be denied or whitewashed (like the true extent of the GULAG, Beria's rapist behaviour and the phony character of the Soviet elections and intra-party democracy). Making a deal for his son while other people's sons were left to die or even were represessed by the Soviet State for surrendering would be a morale blow right when the Soviets were ready to become the liberators of half of Europe and get a much welcome polishing of their reputation.
He was in a stronger position than, say, Churchill or Roosevel, who were contained by democratic norms and oppositions, but still maybe he decided not to risk. From a statesman/objective point of view, it was even the right call even if a hard one. The issue is how hard it was for him. Maybe he really did not care. Their relationship most of time was less than good to say the least.
The opening "when we play hungary are we allowed to use guns" is my favorite
I love it how when Zhukov enters, Vasily scream Medic, like he knows he will need it.
Something about Vasily yelling,"you rude fucking pies" tickles my funny bone.
Vasily flipping legs up after Zhukovs punch got me
Vasily: i will not be silenced !!!
also Vasily: is silenced...
"Off you go, kitten" is my favourite line in the entire film.
In my head canon, Tarasov is an Eastern Front veteran. That's why he's assigned to guard Vasily, because he's dangerous. And that's why he's relatively calm all the time, because he's seen the worst.
3:57 Taboritsky's brain right before he dies of a stroke
"Soviet planes do NOT crash! And Stalin's son does NOT fuck up!"
Something about it all made him even more loathsome. God was it satisfying to see him getting punched in the guts and kicked by Zhukov.
Yeah, but the actual person was tragic more so than an asshole
I'd probably watch Vasily trying to take the gun while everyone else watching silently even if it was 10 minutes long.
"play better you clattering fannies!" is totally how I watch sports 🤣
When Zhukov punches he has the power of the red army in his fists. 👊
Rupert Friend clearly had fun with this role, didn't he?
The player who falls in the ice is Vsevelod Bobrov, who will be the head coach of the Soviet hockey team for the Summit Series, 20 years later. The officer who is with Vassili Staline is Anatoli Tarasov, the father of Russian ice hockey!
MEDIC
He knew exactly what was coming for him.
@@randomcenturion7264 Field Marshal Zhukov and the fist of fury.
'I know the drill! Smile, shake hands and try not to call them a cunt.' We've all been there, bruh.
Me every time I need to visit my relatives: 3:47
"MEDIC!" is one of the best lines. It makes me laugh every time.
"My father will have you saddled and ridden to Siberia!" God this movie's dialogue is great XD
“Stalin’s son does not fuck up!”
Lol he literally failed to shoot himself
I love how the NKVD plays along with pretending they don’t know about the Hockey team because it gives them leverage over Vasily
Rupert Friend was absolutely fantastic as Vasily.
0:35 when me and my mates see our teacher in Public.
0:55 - Great line!
"Ridden to Siberia you rude fucking pies!'
I don't know why but that line is hilarious.
Ill have you saddled and ridden to sideria is a underrated line
His denial amounted to "Plane? What is a plane?"
*"Hockey's shit."*
To be honest, if you read about Vasily he wasn't actually an obnoxious nepotism case, more like "my dad was quite literally a mass-murdering monster who drove my mother to suicide, my brother was killed in the War and I couldn't decide for myself that is why I turned to bottle" case
Poor guy is just trying not to get yelled at by his brutal dictator father, I can understand that.
Loyal even past the end, what more could you ask for from your questionably competent spawn?
I clipped 1.18 - 2.00 and posted it on my families facebook
describing the horrors of a recent family fight we had in a pub near us.
In this darkness of our deep family fued.... everyone was laughing with minutes. Thank you.
Tarasov is my FAVOURITE character and always will be.
he screams medic at just the sight of Zhukov because he knows what's coming
I've actually played a ice hockey game on that rink.
Did you play better you clattering fanny
Stalin's son actually had problems with alcohol; he even had the nickname "drunk Vasily"
Richard Brake is such a fun actor to watch.
Tarasov was more like Vasily’s handler than anything else. At least, in the movie it appears that way. Poor Vasily…
1:30 😂😂
Vasily didn't cause the plane crash. It's his handling of the crash that's the problem.
I don't know if he just got the good lines but Rupert Friend is a surprisingly good comedic actor for his CV.
"Thank you all for your..."
(Zhukov arrives)
"MEDIC !"
"oh fuck do they know about the crash" lolol
Zhukov didn't like everything even Stalin, he even feel mocked when Stalin decorated own son as general. Beria knows it and he remove red army's power in capital.
Zhukov has no chill in this movie 😆
A toast to the Empire, brown eyes
This is such a funny ass movie. Its Russia portrayed ultra-british. I love it.
The Grand Inquisitor punching The Grand Inquisitor MEDIC
2:52 fr the best part of the movie
You know Vasily stalin was made a general at 21? During ww2 but he didn't really earn the title
No surprise that Zhukov didn't like him
Of course, he didn't earn the title.
@@voin5371 In real life Zhukov hated the man immensely
@@Briselance But no one deep down took Vasily stalin seriously. I read that he was disliked by stalin himself
A general at 21? Fucking hell, most brand-new lieutenants aren’t that young.
What's both funny and tragic about this scene, it really did happen. Vasily was in charge of the Air Force hockey team, VVS. The team was killed in a plane crash. Said crash occurred in 1950, whereas this scene implies it happened recently. Vasily tried to cover it up by replacing the team with newbies, and hoped his father didn't notice. Apparently Stalin did not notice, or didn't care as nothing came of it.
“You are sitting on fire! Fire!”
NHL coaches:
*breaks down film, gives each player specific training programs to work on their game etc*
Vasily:
“PLAY BETTER RIGHT NOW!”
Vasily probably thought Stalin had him arrested for whatever happened to the national team when the police came to talk to him
That spit LMAO.
I seriously doubt that Stalin did not know about the january 1950 Sverdlovsk plane crash.
"I know about the hockey team..." 😅😅😅
Isn't the actor who played Tarasov the same one who was shot by Bill Burr in the Mandalorian
3:35 favourite so far
were the scenes in the movie, I don't remember them?
There are some deleted scenes here but I've did some basic colour correction. Trust me, you can still see the difference if you look.
Hungary always makes an appearance.
Tarasov Kinda looks like Richtofen Or some of the Germans in WaW
“Medic!”
3:49 🤭🤭🤭
Vasily Stalin: the Uday Hussein of the Soviet Union
Wait... Was that Rupert Friend playing Vasili?? 😳 🤣
Yes
Goes to show how good of an actor Rupert Friend is that he can play a comedic role like this but also play a more serious role of the Grand Inquisitor in Obi-Wan Kenobi.
I don't remember seeing those parts
Is this really how his son behaved or is this over exaggerated? Almost reminds of how Uday Hussein was
I think this is vaguely exaggerated but yeah Vasily Stalin was pretty bad.
Although no, he was nowhere near as bad as Uday Hussein. That's what Beria is for.
He's a drunkard I think he died due to complications from alcohol
I think the real Vasily was more of a nervus wreck, which I would be too if Stalin was my dad. He was rude and rebellious, but probably not nearly so pompous.
Vasily was, unlike Svetlana, virtually ignored by his father after his mother killed herself when he was 11. By 13, he was already a habitual drinker. He died in his 40s from chronic alcoholism.
He was less of a baffoonish fail son and more someone who desperately needed emotional support from family, but was given positions of power he was unsuited for instead.
inpaindaily
Stalin found both his sons to be huge disappointments. Vasily's half brother Yakov was a pow and all thier father said was look at him he couldn't even kill himself right.
Atleast Svetlana had the decency to defect
Fucking wet box
"Vasily Stalin commanded the regiment diligently, listened to us, the more experienced pilots. As a regimental commander, he could fly combat missions as part of any squadron at his discretion, but most often, for some reason, he flew as part of mine. During February-March 1943, we shot down a dozen enemy planes. With the participation of Vasily - three. Moreover, it should be noted that Vasily was the first to attack them, after these attacks the planes lost control, and then we finished them off. According to our flight laws, they could be counted to Vasily as shot down personally, but he considered them shot down in a group. I once told him about it, but he waved his hand and said briefly: "Don't!"
- Hero of the Soviet Union Lieutenant General S. F. Dolgushin.
Obviously Vasiliy was a contraversial man, but he even more obviously does not deserve a "memory" like in this film. And nor any of us. Lord will judge him and as all.
He is like Hammond from top gear
I thought they were lovers.
1:04 hockey is shit
The British accents don't do it justice
One CZcamsr said that he liked it because it shows how diverse the Soviet Union was because not everyone had a British accent like Khrushchev or Beria did Malenkov had an American accent
Slowmo spitfail
Watch Сын отца народов and you will see Vasili's true face, not this nonsense
Hunter Biden
Rupert friend should be in every film