AREX Gen2 Delta M Tactical Review: What Gen 5 Glocks Should Have Been?
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- čas přidán 15. 12. 2022
- We take the AREX Gen2 Delta M Tactical to the range, test it suppressed, add an optic, go over its features, and what I think of it overall. Is this what the Gen5 Glocks should have been?
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This video but with a link to pick up the Delta M Tactical: mrgunsngear.org/3Wp08K5
Does it come in 45
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Just like everyone else in the comments it seems I absolutely adore my Gen 2 M in FDE. Color is beautiful, extremely light weight and great ergos. I run mine with a Holosun 407K green dot with Olight mini 2 in an ANR Design holster. I have hundreds if not a few thousand rounds through mine and have had zero malfunctions.
I love my Arex gen 2 Delta M. Never had a jam or miss fire, and right out of the box it was extremely accurate. Thanks for your review
Love my Delta M, got an optic mounted and use it in a holster made for a Glock 19. Ian over at Forgotten Weapons got me interested in it when he reviewed one several months back and demonstrated the take down procedure. That alone sold me on getting one! I've had one for about six months now and put about 400 or so rounds through it so far. No issues at all.
AREX needs to step up their importing game and let us purchase threaded barrels. I want one for my Delta L gen2
I've emailed Arex Defense about it a few months ago and they're in the works of having them available in the states no date was given though.
@@xYaksa nice man thanks!
I own the M, it's a good shooter, but full disclosure - I've replaced to two strikers, the cocked indicator broke on both, and the lug broke on one. The (included) 17 rd mag repeatably explodes when dropped on the base plate. I have about 600 rds through it with no malfunctions and 4Bros makes holsters for it.
I have one 17rd and two 19rr mags and regularly drop them on soil, gravel, rocks, and cement but have never had any issues of them exploding. Lol. Granted when I drop them for a reload, the magazine is empty. I’ve never tried dropping it loaded. The only visual evidence that they’ve been dropped a lot is scuff marks and scratches.
I genuinely wonder how your baseplate exploded.
I'm still carrying my Arex rex zero1 S. I love their products.
Great video Mike
Great review! Love my Arex Delta M Gen 2’s in Black and Gray.
I don't own a Gen 5 Glock but I have an older one.
Great that there's so many more options these days to choose from.
So i found out yesterday that this gun will fit into a P07 holster. Take a dremel and cut away the area for the optic, and it retains perfectly. You may need to loosen the lower tension a touch.
Also the mags from the P07 and P10 run in it perfectly.
So far ive got around 350 rounds through mine and i think its an awesome gun.
They should try and get into the micro market. I think this platform would be great in 3.5" barrel at around 1.1 " think.
Dam thanks for the compatibility info.
Already having Cz’s this Makes it easier for me to justify another purchase.
How’s the accuracy been ?
I love my Delta. Main downside to the gen 1 was the frame texture. Swapped it with a gen 2 frame, and it's excellent 👌Slav Glock.
Was considering getting a Gen 2 frame to replace the Gen 1 and then got to play with a Gen 2 at the range. Didn't fit my hand and I'm glad I didn't have to spend $$$ to find that out.
@@TheRealPontificator
I would never have guessed that would be the case. Glad you found out before you bought it.
got a delta x new for under $300, extreme value
One of those brands that I suspect will become increasingly famous.
My Delta M shoots better and feels better than any stock Glock I've shot at half the price (bought during a holiday sale).
I was considering the echelon until you mentioned this arex delta & I must say "Good looking out"....I'm a celebrity at the FFL's & ranges so far because everybody asking, what's that, Lol.....Had to comply too ten rounds (paying to damage my own property) but hey, one unconstitutional hurdle at a time....In other words, Thanks .
Thank you 😊
Thanks!
sounds like best gun out there, never heard of AREX but thats a good deal feature rich
That's a really nice piece.
Thank mrgunsngear. Was thinking about picking up this budget pistol
Merry Christmas pimpin!!!
Dang this is nice! Definitely a great alternative to a Glock. Great review Mike!
Thank you Sir
I would like a recoil and impulse critique and comparison to other similar guns.
Excellent pistol for sure.
i really like arex, my only gripe is that ive had one since gen 1 and im surprised they havent offer a threaded barrel separate yet.
Looking forward to seeing you on MUG CLUB!!!
Think of it this way. If you made donuts and tons of your customers incessantly told the world that you made the most perfectly functioning infallible donuts ever created, why would you make a better donut? You would just keep making the same donut with the same plastic sprinkles on top.
Because we don't have to live our lives based on other people's opinions, we can shoot whatever donuts we want. You can have all the sprinkles, I don't want any ;D
@@AtlasJotun Thats wonderful.
@@grapetonenatches186 Ignore the stoned samurai, I understood your analogy.
@@Woodpusherpro Hahaha
I dont know one baker that just makes one pastry. The reason for that being not everyone has the same tastes.
Hadn't heard of AREX. Thanks for review. Here's hoping someone makes Glock 43X clones with a factory-installed steel mag catch for use with Shield 15-rd mags.
My has over 1500 rds and 0 malfunctions and all steel ammo
Just take the mag release out and file down the side you don’t use. I am sure you can always order a new part if you end up selling it to someone who uses the opposite side for dropping mags.
That's what I did too. I was going to order the extended release, but shipping was way too expensive.
How about a review of the Tisas Px9 gen 3 with the threaded barrel.
I have a gen2 L I got two years ago, I’ve probably only put about 600 rounds through it but I’ve had no problems and it’s an amazing shooter. The trigger is CRISPY AF. It was so nice to learn proper pistol fundamentals with this gun. The only issue I had with it is that it’s kinda boring, both to shoot and aesthetically. Definitely not much of a looker, although it isn’t ugly. But it’s also so monotonous to shoot, there’s no drama. You point, pull the trigger, and it hits where you aim. It’s definitely more of a tool, not a range toy. And it’ll get the job done. I still like my P320 better, but to be honest I probably shoot better with this one.
VP9 and G19 had a baby
I'm "digging" that trigger reset
It's probably one of the best stock triggers out there.
That's OD Olive Drab mate not FDE...lol. No worries. I need one in OD...
Reversible mag releases are definitely better than ambi releases. On the Delta, you have to clear the opposite mag release before using it or you'll be pushing against yourself.
AREX Gen2 Delta M Tactical looks interesting.
Adding to the grip on the tang. I had talon tape, and it's so hot here in Texas (training during the summer), it melted off. The pistol is fine without it. For me anyways.
if there is anything we can do please ask.great video.
Thank u
I'd pretty much compare it to the Glock 48 as well. I had an Arex for a bit, I found it a little snappy for my taste (probably from me being a newer shooter at the time).
They are a little snappier than a Glock but that is because they're even more lightweight than a Glock. The snappiness isn't that bad at all though, maybe an extra 5-10% more recoil.
Love my X and M. I'm waiting for them to put out the X tactical, and wondering why they didn't put that version out first.
I was going the route of suppressor height sights and sourcing a threaded barrel for my X before they announced this version.
This Oregon measure 114 doesn't help either.
Looking at getting a METE SFT PRO also.
I want to add me a canik to my what is now becoming a collection lol.
The X tactical was the first announced I believe? Maybe your lgs or Global just haven’t imported the X tactical yet?
Very nice, tempting. Frame looks OD.
Please come out with the Protac 2.0 and compare it to HLX please!
Please review the tisas px9 gen 3
It’s advertised as Glock 19 size and does fit in many G19 holsters but the speck sheet and my personal opinion of owning one is that it’s more the size of the S365X Macro
At least the Delt M is the same size
Love my Arex Delta the only problem I have the extended mags I have 3 one of the springs jam under the plate that holds it together so I use the mag at the range only
You might check the length of the spring. One of the extended mags I bought had a much longer spring than the one that came with it.
@@jeremiahm3765 cool thx I will check I appreciate that
Nice
As an owner of a couple ambi mag release guns, the Arex has the hardest spring of all them. Stiffer than FN, XDME, and even the Masada. If they reduce that magazine spring tension a little would be wonderful.
arex ships weaker spring with enlarged mag release!
@@lovrop I'm aware of that, and while I purchased one, decided to just train the finger, and work the installed release.
You’re not using your mag release enough! Lmao. After a few weeks of dry firing with snap caps (requires you to load/reload) and about 300-400 rounds at the range, my mag release on both sides (lefty here) loosened up. My Delta X mag release is almost as smooth as my PDP now. I have about 1500 rounds through my Delta X and have zero complaints. I’ve actually grown to appreciate it more and more the longer I’ve had mine.
I did and it loosen already. My comment is for out of the box experience. But also I acquired the Arex during the pandemic times, while all the others were way before it. And during the pandemic many manufacturers were not that strict in the QA just to get enough product out and cope with demand.
I have a Delta L I'd like to turn into a home defense suppressed set up. Do they make extra barrels that are threaded for suppresors?
I just have to wonder am I the only person who hates the trigger reset in the Arex Delta? I absolutely love the ergonomics. I shoot the gun well but I can only fire about a magazine before my trigger finger either feels like it was stung by a wasp or goes numb from the trigger reset slamming into my finger. I have guns from virtually every major manufacturer and I even have two Arex Zeros and no other gun does this. I am not sure if my complaint is just a one off and I got the one Arex Delta that does it or if my finger is just sensitive. It doesn’t matter if I pin the trigger to the rear or release it immediately it always snaps my finger. I dislike it so much that this gun rarely sees the range because when it does it is either the last gun I shoot or it becomes the last gun I shoot because may finger hurts from the trigger.
Mrgunsngear, your voice sounds labored, I hope your health is good.
health is great, thanks
@@Mrgunsngear That's OD Green mate not FDE
@@Mrgunsngear Great and Happy Holidays. 🙂🙃
left handed people are people 😢nice review, it would be nice if you could also demonstrate how to change the frames. I never learned how to do it.
Are these things drop safe/appendix carry safe?
I want to see glock blow the world's mind and make a 1911. They'd do something stupid like chamber them only in 45 GAP. But hell people would still buy it.
Nothing wrong with the .45 Gap, it will shoot standard
. 45 Acp as well as the .45 Gap !!!
Weight?
Recoil opinion?
I got slide bite till I put the large back strap on, mine isn’t that reliable but I am using a mix of gen 1 and gen2 mags
That shouldn't be an issue, I think the mags are the same. They can be limp-wristed, grip could be an issue.
Could be a limp wrist, I don’t shoot my polymer guns as much as my beretta, I will have to take it out again and see if limp wristing is the cause
@@judofry I injured my left wrist, tried shooting my Delta left-handed, and had failures to feed- no problem otherwise. I need to try it again, now that it's well.
Im very happy with it. Glad i didn't by a Glock. It's modular, the finish is perfect, sights are metal, spring and guide rod cups are metal, great modular ergonomics, great trigger, the mags pop out and metal and inexpensive, it's lighter, narrower, can get an xframe for it, barrel is cold hammer forged, everything is made in house no outsourcing. It's a little snappy, but you just work on your grip. And no I'm not payed by arex. No Glock for me..
I love the gun, but my trigger is awful! I even did a trigger job (springs, polished/shaped firing pin block, polished surfaces on trigger bar, etc), and it still is really heavy right at the very end of the trigger pull.
sounds like the problem is YOU and not the gun. maybe work on strengthening your fingers? gun manufacturers can't always design everything around the weakest people in society
How many rounds have you put through it? The trigger pull gets better the more rounds you fire. Dry helps a ton too.
@@Sneedmeister LMAO! I can’t argue with your logic.
I like my austrian made Glock 19 gen 5 with ameriglo trigger better than my trp operator and Vp9 ameriglo sku is same price now as regular sights pre covid gun market is shit right now dealers are dying
Weird and flat at the top of the backstrap. After beating on the thumb base knuckle, will the the slide also unlock early enough that it's almost out of battery when brand new.... that's the bar to clear to beat the Ruger American.
Arex vs Canik.....what's your preference?
arex is leaps and bounds better than canik
arex not only makes their own guns, but they also make the machines and tooling that other firearm manufactures use to make their own guns as well. Arex owns and creates all piece they need to make the Delta.
not even Glock makes their own machines and tooling.
That’s difficult. I like both. I vary the gen 2 arex more often than my subcompact tp9
Like the Arex better.
LIke my Delta. But, Like my Shadow Systems XR920 better. With the price difference I should.
Does this take Glock magazines
Anyone know if the grip angle on these are like a Sig P320/1911 or more like a Glock?
Much more vertical than a Glock
I'll keep my CZs, P07 and P10C.
Why not both?
I’m a CZ fan myself, but bought a Delta M because the new P10c/P07 mags will work in it. Really enjoy the slim grip and light weight of the Delta. The Delta mags will not work in my P 10c or P 07. The Arex mags are a bit shorter than the CZ mags.
You know you can also buy this and not sell the CZs.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz That is exactly what I have done. Both brands are great.
Dude, you feeling well? You sound a little off compared to most videos, scratchy throat?
So are these partially cocked like Glock? They list it as truly double action.
I'll stick to my Glocks. There'll be another 2023 version of this one from somebody by next week.
Glock's Patent has expired, so there is no "secret sauce" owned by Glock. To each their own, though 🤷♂️
@@jayp4114 If I wasn't aware of Glock's patent status I wouldn't have made the comment. Glock's "secret sauce" is Glock. No big secret anymore, is it.
I completely agree....it's like hitting on the ugly girl at the library to get the hot cheerleader who is her best friend's phone number. Stop dancing around the goal and go straight for the gold. All these guys think and say GLOCKs all need fixing. I bought my first Gen 2 G19 in 1993 and still have it along with about 30 other Gen 3s and Gen 4s covering most of their lineup. Other than a set of tritium night sights they need NOTHING and are all stock otherwise.
@@jayp4114
If you can't shoot a GLOCK pistol accurately straight out of the box the problem is you the shooter...not the pistol! These guys that have a extra $800 rapped up into "fixing" their GLOCKs and you give a woman friend one to shoot for the first time and she is drilling the 10x ring with it. It was also a Gen 3 G-27 .40 S&W too.....OMG....the horror....the horror!
How does the trigger compare to a Canik or Walther?
I have a Canik TP9 Elite SC great trigger. Similar size with G19.
I can only speak of my experience and with the Delta it is problematic. The trigger on the delta is crisp with a very distinctive wall it a fully cocked striker like a Canik and a Walther but the pull weight is heavier. My problem with the Arex trigger is that the reset is so harsh it makes the gun uncomfortable to shoot. The trigger snaps my finger on reset no matter what I do. If I pin it and release it snaps me. If I try to ride it, it snaps me. The only thing I haven’t tried is slapping because if that is the cure then the cure is worse than the disease.
Doesn't that indicator come out when the gun is loaded?
No it’s flush to the back of the frame when cocked
Real world question. This or the g19. I carry glocks mainly due to reliability. I work construction, so drywall dust, concrete, massive sweat…blah blah. I have my Gen 4 19 kinda gucci. Stock internals, but zev slide cuz I wanted the optic cut that wasn’t mos cuz I heard they had sheering issues.
You carry on work sites? Lol I woulda got fired quick status
@@jackbrightside lol own the company
@@everydayman3497 nice
If you have the Glock already no need to change. The question would be more relevant if you didn’t own either.
People trade in their stuff way too often in my opinion. I’ve been guilty of it too. Unless you’re in a competition and need the best tool to keep up in that sphere there’s no reason to keep trading out unless you are making a huge leap or a significant change, such as “I want a thinner gun with more rounds and that exists today unlike when I bought my old gun” or “I really want an optic and my gun was made before that was a thing”
Now that I’ve wasted a lot of time and money flipping around in the last 15 years, I’m settled. I won’t buy anything new unless it’s really getting me some new capabilities I didn’t have before. I’m done chasing the Joneses. Only thing that really interests me is upgrading optics on a couple of rifles to something nicer.
I’ve gone to PDPs, P10s, M&Ps, all excellent choices but I wind up back at my Gen 5 Glocks. The only striker fired non Glock I plan to keep is the p365xl and want a Macro for sure. Hammer fired guns are where I like to get my variety kicks lol
I assume someone said this already but that frame is OD Green. The FDE is ugly tan.
Can't you purchase frames for these say you have an M and want an X?
Sorry you just answered asked to fast
Snappy???
Did you get on TRT bro ? Lookin cut up 💪🏼
If the frame is interchangable, can you buy a large gun and replace the grip with a medium size? Giving the elusive G19 long?
Yes. It's basically 3 versions of the same gun.
So I do need to buy one of these? I can't stand glock just for the fact their so boring.
If you could only get one, Arex Delta or G19?
G19. Parts support and holster availability.
Arex delta. This gun can be had much cheaper, especially to a discerning buyer who does his research, but it will also outperform a Glock. You'd need hundreds of dollars of upgrades to get the Glock on the same level the arex comes out of the box.
@@domenik8339 Such as? The Glock doesn't need any upgrades, unless you decide on different sights.
@@5jjt It doesn't need any for sure, but obviously they're a plus. Improvements on a defensive weapon are incredibly important, you want every advantage you can get when your life is at stake.
@@5jjtcan find deltas under $300 new with slide cut, larger magazine, lighter, ambi
Glock definitely needs an infusion of life not saying they are not good but seriously they got $$ for R&D so why don't they come up with the latest and greatest? They are moving into the antique market.
Remember that when the Gen 5 MOS 20 & 21 is released for SHOT.
You don't carry appendix?? I thought you did and liked to be at an advantage.
I am a chimp
Those are some big old hands.
This looks like the new taurus tactical
uhhhh no. Taurus uses old machines, Arex MAKES the machines other gun companies use. Arex makes their own tooling and their own guns, they are leaps and bounds above Taurus
Come on man! You can’t expect Glock to actually make improvements to their guns in the last 40 years. Come on man!
You can't "improve" or fix what isn't broken to begin with....
@@JohnDoeEagle1 Now it's not competitive either. More money, same quality, less features. Such is the way of the do do.
@@domenik8339
Eh...that's what all the nOObs think and say!
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Stop falling for "market hype" and "opinions" from amateurs who don't even know what they are doing or talking about.
My man - you okay?? You're looking WAY too thin🙁
Does it come in 45
Does it take glock mags?
Without a doubt the best Glock clone for the money is PSA dagger
I'm glad you like yours. Mine is the most unreliable pistol I own.
PSA: PSA does not long term test their guns before releasing to market.
dagger is good but arex is better
The recoil isn't that great.
Until these companies can replicate the quality and durability of the proprietary Glock polymer then they are just week copies. And no I don't think will ever give up that trade secret.
This is a Glock Gen 3 with upgrades, and I mean that literally, it is NOT a copy. Glock's patent on then Gen 3 expired, meaning any company is now free to manufacture a Gen 3 Glock. This is a Gen 3 Glock, with tweaks and upgrades, right down the polymer.
@@domenik8339
Come on...do you honestly believe that?! That is like saying Ford isn't the original Mustang and some fartbox turd took it's place.
This knockoff is ugly as sin and is filled with "Star Wars" mallninja garbage add-ons you don't need.
Amen!
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@@JohnDoeEagle1 Yes, it'll outperform any Glock right out of the box. It's nothing more than a heavily modified Glock Gen 3. It would cost hundreds of dollars to get a Glock at the level the arex delta comes out of the box. Just shows you how bad of a value the Glock truly is.
Why does everyone on you tube compare firearms with Glocks. Why? Because you can't beat a glock for the money, quality and reliability.
You can definetly beat a glock for those things.
They compare it to the glock because glock is a very know quantity in the market. Everyones likely handled one at this point, whether they own one or not.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz I agree. I don't like them and never owned one... but I have shot several. I've shot just out of the box ones and tricked out ones. They're not comfortable in my hand. S&W and Sig are much more comfortable to me.
@@yt_censorship_sucks Same here, shot one in 1990 and that was good enough for me. Not that they aren't a good pistol just never cared for them or the fanboy club at the counters of every LGS. I'll stick with my M&P's.
@@danclas5983 Yeah, I'm sure they're good pistols too. It's the fanboys that get me. Sometimes they crack me up and other times they're just plain annoying. But, like you, I'll stick with my M&P's and Sig.
@@yt_censorship_sucks
"SIG" is a former shell of itself as a company once Sig Sauer of West Germany. S&W never could make a decent semi-auto and never will. Stick to the S&W classic revolvers and Sig Sauer Classic P-Series DA/SA pistols and GLOCKs.....
I keep saying it, but gun companies need to stop making Ambi/Left handed firearms. The world's not fair. I say this as a left hander. Only holsters should be left handed. 90-88% of guns aren't made for you. What about bull pups? There are sights made at an angle it to your left eye, or turn the rifle 45°. The reason I mention this is being left handed isn't a handicap. Being left handed actually makes you more adaptive and unpredictable. I also want to mention left handed also means left eye dominant. If someone's left handed, but right eyed dominate, shoot right handed.
Did you know everyone is born left-handed? Yup, and you'll stay left-handed until you commit your 1st sin...
The guy from 1911 Syndicate feels mostly the same way. Hes very used to running right handed guns, using his index finger to drop mags and hit the slide release, especially since the lefty slide release is always harder to disengage than the right side.
@@joenuclear4445 How's the weather up in la la land?
@@domenik8339 Perfect
Yet another Glock clone. I prefer to shoot real glocks instead of fake ones.
Yep....exactly!
Why ruin an otherwise good video by playing rap music during the intro?
Now they just need a glock 43x size gun and market upgrade compatibility and I'll buy one
Sometimes “the test of time” can be a valuable selling tool. Even me, not just gun stuff, will be shown that product A is just better than product B in every way, but product A might have only existed for 5 years while product B has been around for 50 years. Maybe I’m stubborn but in that case I’d rather play it safe and stick with product B unless it’s just WAY better but that’s rarely the case.
Product A is rarely "better" than product B.....other than marketing hype and praise from newer owners that don't really know the difference or what to look for. I can 100% guarantee vintage Sears Craftsman made in the USA tools are light-years better than the cheap China and Taiwan ones they sell at ACE, Menards and Lowe's now.
GLOCKs were never broken or needed "fixed" in the first place. That was invented and marketed for competitors to cash in and chip away at their bottom line.
I know this is off of the subject but does anybody else have a problem with counting like do they count everything I count everything I count the stripes on the shirt I count the amount of rounds fired hell in school I used to sit and look at the ceiling and count the holes in the ceiling tiles or the lines on the tiles on the floor I'm either a genius or I think I just figured out I'm autistic🤔🫣
I counted how much punctuation you used in your statement. Zero. You're definitely autistic dude.
@@nicholasemerson9852 I meant to say artistic but thanks🫢😢
@Eric Shurtz 😆 😂 haha. Well my comment still stands. But I'm sure you're a great artist also. 🎨
Not I. I can't count. I am also completely illiterate.
Delta has an Achilles Heel and that is the pair of polymer retainer cup that hold the recoil spring onto the guide rod. These are similar in function to the striker spring cups found on Glocks/clones. I discovered one of these cups was missing on my recoil spring assembly after approx. 750 rounds. Fortunately spares are available from Global. They're cheap (less than $1 a pair) but the shipping is pretty steep.
I've been waiting 6 months for a firing pin from Global. I'll stick with Glock.
@@billclifton873 mine only took a week to arrive. arex doesn't control what shipping does
interesting! thank you for sharing that info.
I don't know what they send you, but the spring in Europe is completely made out of steel, including the cups.