Disney’s Broken Theme Park Promises & False Advertising
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- How many times has Disney advertised & promoted attractions for their theme parks that were ultimately cancelled? In this episode we attempt to answer the question once and for all, as well as explore what they were going to be.
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PRIMARY INFORMATIONAL SOURCES:
Marc Davis In His Own Words: Imagineering the Disney Theme Parks - Pete Doctor & Christopher Merritt - Disney Editions
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Hi-Resolution concept art of Westcot - Frederick Chambers / @HelmsmanFreddy - Disney Enterprises
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Big Thunder Mountain Railroad opening day footage - Walt’s Nephew - • Big Thunder Mountain R...
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Concept of Plectu’s Fantastic Galactic Revue - Nick Tierce / @nickytea on Twitter
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For all of Eisner's faults, he understood park theming and integrated it seamlessly. Iger only cares about dumping more Disney IPs into the parks. Blizzard Beach would be all Frozen if Iger created it.
I love Blizzard Beach's theming. Sucks they changed the original theming of the kids area to Frozen themed
the waterparks are a good example of quintisential eisner themeing that no one really ever talks about, blizzard beach and winter summerland are so cheesy 90s christmassy and i love it it's so cute
Six-Flags-ifying their parks. Lovely.
@David Bee what does him being a Jew have to do with anything?
@David Bee Fuck. I don’t know what’s worse. This ignorant comment or the people giving it likes. I’ll pray for you 🙏
For all his faults (and there are plenty) I have more respect for Eisner than the current people in charge at Disney. At least Eisner was thinking of big creative ideas that could make them a lot of money, even if they did lead to a lot of risks not panning out, and losing money in the process. At least he made an attempt to be innovative.
Today, Disney plays it so safe that, while they are making a lot of money, they've stagnated. They're not innovative. They're not creative. They just exist to make money, not history.
Eisner definitely has imagination he was definitely creative unlike Bob the Buying Everything Igor he doesn't have a creative bone in for Disney all he sees is money.
these are my thoughts on eisner as well
man was petty and insane to be sure and probably on a LOT of cocaine, but at least he had creative drive and took risks that made his time at disney eventful and interesting
I'm so tired of Marvel. 😭 I'm even still mad that Jack Sparrow was put into PotC, and that was forever ago. I just miss actual original stuff, instead of premade IPs getting slapped in.
(That said, the new Guardians ride is amazing...but it's amazing because of the coaster and the music. I couldn't care less about the Guardians themselves. I've been on that ride so many times now, and still have no idea what's going on in the storyline because I'm too busy singing along to the music. :P)
Eisner was a bit different for ONE reason: he did try to bring some ideas and plans to reality. Meanwhile Bob Iger and Josh D'Amaro are just spewing hot air 24/7. Look at D'Amaro's silly "Blue sky" speech. It was so bizarre that I had to watch it twice to attempt to find out what he was talking about. In the end, it was just another attempt to drum up interest in
nothing.
It's kind of worse; the company culture is more or less enforcing the current problems, because the thing is that they _do_ have a lot of innovation and creativity there--but it's all in finding new ways to screw up, to shift blame onto other people, and ensure that you're the 'closest thing we have left' when it comes time for promotions.
Which is why they've been having issues having the kind of innovation and creativity that they used to have: If you have talent for innovation and creativity in storytelling and the ilk...there's better places to work.
Disney may disappoint, but Yesterworld never does
For real
Anyone can disappoint.
@@randomboy3m98 That's what I say, not just Disney (even though hating on Disney has more or less become the _"trend"_ nowadays, for understandable reasons).
@@randomboy3m98 just like my hopes and dreams
My favorite CZcams channel ❤
The bit of false advertising that always gets me is the fact that they were using footage of a functioning Yeti animatronic to promote Animal Kingdom well into the 2010s.
Lol. I know I am so sad I will never get to see the fully functioning yeti..
I was so pissed 😡🤣
Nowadays, I get more upset about what _does_ get added to the Disney theme parks instead of what doesn't.
Yeah, I'd be thrilled if they announced, "We're not adding anything for the next few years, but we're going to invest in bringing all the existing stuff up to perfect working order."
@@ttintagel I'd just be happy if they didn't constantly get rid of stuff that's already there in favor of attractions that nobody asked for.
@@ttintagelLOL truth. Hit disneyland last saturday. Open to close. We did 12 rides... 10 broke down with us on or in line. We gave them 25 minutes in line before giving up. In end we never did rebel (was down all day) and we gave up on 2 rides... disney isn't what it was. And course they just announced more layoffs.
@@whisperscream8297 get woke, go broke.
@@ttintagelthat’s the Tokyo Disneyland Resort model: New things every few years and major upkeep for the rest.
I will forever wish for the Eisner era to return. There were tons of misses, but it felt like everyone was actually trying to take big swings and when they hit, they hit HARD.
Why did I think of fire emblem when seeing Eisner, help.
@@BloominFleury29 because they were both great in the 90s but aren’t relevant in 2023?
@@dpowemsj oof that was a deep cut.
@Dennis Owens When it was Michael and Frank. Absolutely. That was arguably the best era of the parks since Walt and Roy. After Frank died, the last half was one of the worst eras.
@@BAM5636 That seems to be true in a lot of groups/partnerships. This isn't quite the same, but as a huge Queen fan, I noticed their best music is when they were all together contributing. Their solo stuff ranged from "okay" to "my god this is hilariously terrible."
I think it's also what worked for those two writers on Doctor Who (it's late and my brain can't come up with their names). Working together, they came up with amazing stuff. Alone...again, some was okay, some was really bad.
I want to go to the parallel universe where Michael Eisner decided not to build Euro Disney.
Surprised to see you here!
Bruh Phantom Manor would have been so good with a better budget
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So hey, random fan here, I know you've been dealing with a bunch of stuff I will only summarize as "suffering" but just to ask:
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if you need a break, TAKE IT.
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Most important thing I want you to remember:
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I would want to be in a universe where it was called Disneyland Paris from the beginning and Michael Eisner and company would’ve been more respectful to French culture. That would’ve helped make some of the ideas that he had planned for the Disney Decade become a reality.
I sorta feel like we need a part 2 considering the promised and cancelled content for Galaxies Edge,Mary Poppins at Epcot,The Theater at WDW Mainstreet,The Watch Tower at Epcot,The Play Pavilion at Epcot and others I know I’m missing.
How many times have they promised to fix journey into imagination?
Oh forgot about the OG E-Ticket Avengers Ride at DCA,the original announcement for New Fantasyland at Magic Kingdom didn’t have Seven Dwarfs Mine Train.
There could be an entire part 2 just from lies and abandoned promises from the past 4 years. Instead they've actually removed things and charge more for it
Is this how i find out that the play pavilion isn’t happening? I thought they were still doing that.
No, it got hard canned after the Wreck it Ralph sequel didn't do that well in theaters. That said, out of all of these the Play pavilion is probably just as well not being built since its content would have been outdated even before it was finished.
I still wish Disney was able to both give us Thunder Mesa and a proper Pirates of The Caribbean in Florida.
Somehow, Thunder Mesa exists in Disneyland Paris.
I think it would fit into California Adventure. Just change the theme to the California Gold Rush and not only will you improve on a park that is kind of mid, but it can be the first new ride in a long time that isn't based off IP.
@@sheriffnico8598 what’s thunder mesa
They can't have the same attractions at the same parks. The point of them having the differences is to make people go and visit each park.
@Inuko15 it's not the same attraction. One is about pirates and has 2 drops in the beginning, and the other has a western theme with a drop at the end, as well as a log flume ride.
The longer gap between videos, the better they are. Been watching this guy for 4 years and he never gets old.
I agree ,…..this guy makes great documentaries.. very entertaining … entertainment takes time if u don’t have a staff
I do get impatient after a while and binge the whole series again lmfao
YES! FINALLY A NEW YESTERWORLD VIDEO! I used to pray for times like this!!!
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I was an opening team cast member at animal kingdom in 1998. this video brought back so many memories I can’t believe it’s been 25 years.
Oh my god, the other day the Disney app decided to let me know that it was AK's 25th. I was 17, and remember going there when it was new (tbh I hated it because it was SO hot, but conceptually I loved it). I'm having a hard time accepting this aging thing, so hearing that number just really depressed me, lol
Would it be rude of me to ask for some stories?
I was a single digit Brit child that long ago XD
I think the Avengers Campus Quinjet ride would qualify as a broken promise. It was going to be part of the land's Phase 2 stage, but it was put on hold due to the pandemic and was ultimately cancelled with the building being used for stunt shows and the ride being scrapped for a new ride featuring King Thanos.
Exactly! When it was announced it looked amazing especially after I saw the leaked concept art that was accidentally put up at the art of marvel hotel. Even chapek assured everyone that it was only put on hold not canceled. Then at d23 they pretended like it never existed and said they are going with the king Thanos ride. The quinjet ride would have been a high budget ride as creative as rise of the resistance. But it was canceled for something way cheaper to build. I just hope the king Thanos ride doesn't suck too bad or that it won't be a copy of a ride already at the park. I'm hoping we can get at least one good avengers ride in California (mission breakout doesn't count since it was just a re theme of a ride that was already there)
@@dayoldbread1696 there will probably an update on this 5 years in the future
Avengers Campus is a joke! As a disney and marvel fan, i felt soooo jipped. And they had so many ways to kill it and they didnt
@ayygeearr same, after being hyped for it I rode web slingers and I was like this is garbage. Even my younger brother didnt like it
@@dayoldbread1696 my arms got tired after 10 seconds
still wild to me that universal's "Life of pets" ride was 100x more complicated and intricate than Disney's new Spiderman
"ride"
I remember being hyped for that ride then after waiting 2 hours to get on it being extremely disappointed because it was absolute garbage. The original leaked plans for the ride were way better. It was going to be a new ride vehicle but basically it was a suspended swinging coaster. Also web slingers was primarily made to encourage people to buy the $35 web shooter attachments. It sucks to think avengers campus could have been good but was ruined by greed
Life of pets ride was almost a slam dunk but I just don't get why they have to be so restrictive. I know people who are not even obese but can't fit the ride and the lap bars being so restrictive when it's a slow moving dark ride.
@@dayoldbread1696 2 hours?!? That’s rough buddy.
And that ride almost never has a wait time. When there are wait times, it's because it broke down.
@Ronald7984 lol thanks although I think the longest I've ever waited in line for a ride at Disneyland or any park was when I went on rise of the resistance on opening week. It was like 4-5 hours (probably because in addition to the line it broke down now and then) and I remember being tempted to go home since it was taking so long. My legs felt like jello that day. Was definitely worth it though but would never wait that long for it again
This reminds me of the most recent Universal Orlando commercial which features a direct jab at Disney:
“It’s more than magic……It’s for real.”
Universal has made broken promises before right? It’s not just Disney, every media company has done it before!
New age “Sega does what Nintendon’t”
@@mediocre_sandwich2113 The Sega/Nintendo rivalry is really hot right now since The Mario movie beat sonic 2 at the box office. Both movies are great though.
How long until they bite on the stupid lawsuit against DeSantis?
LMAO!
29:03 Judging by the size, prominent toothy grin, oni like appearance, and the raiment (I hope I used that right) held behind his head, I believe that MIGHT be meant to be a depiction of Raijin, the god of thunder, lightning, and rain in Japanese mythologies. I can only imagine that, given you're riding through Mt. Fuji, the idea would have been that you've accidentally bumped into him due to Fuji's impressive peak bringing you a little too close to the realm of the gods and it's time to skedaddle right back down, posthaste. Many tales in Japanese mythology note that there are locations where the boundaries between the human realm Heaven (the realm of deities) and Hell (realm of demons) are weak enough where one can slip through by various means and Mt. Fuji's peak even has a shinto shrine dedicated to the kami (gods) of the mountain, so that would have been...shockingly culturally on point, even if totally by accident.
Looks more like Fujin woth the bag around his back... Which is raijins brother, guess they were picking up Fujin opposed to Raijin
It’s been years since Disney has done anything significant in the Walt Disney World resort in Orlando, meanwhile their competitors Universal Studios is actively building a third theme park in their resort down the street (well actually fourth if you take Volcano Bay in account). It wouldn’t be such a problem if the Walt Disney Company wasn’t run by a bunch of creativity bankrupt halfwits who are more preoccupied with remaking classic movies that nobody is really asking for.
Don't forget their pandering to various groups, and not telling families when they bought their vacation packages they would be scheduled during that time, so their kids would not be exposed to it!!
@@CommodoreFan64 Do you think kids really care that much about whether or not a gay person exists and they happen to see them? Only the handwringing parents care.
Edit: Jesus, dude, you need a thesaurus. How many comments do you need to make with the word "pandering" in them? At least grab a synonym so your bigotry has a little variety, you know?
Dude, Universal is just as hated, for pretty similar reasons. I've seen plenty of people bitch about how Universal is destroying all the "good" stuff for new stuff.
@@CommodoreFan64
Not all families have to make it a surprise tho. You know this, right? Or did I read that wrong? Exactly what are you trying to go with here?
@@Idiotic_B_Purcell I think they are being homophobic and referring to parents wanting to avoid pride month celebrations at the parks :(
I am 39, and my inner 14-year-old still feels betrayed that she never got to see her promised dragon. I can't begin to say how bitter I still am over it, and how it results in a lot of surely overly-negative feelings towards Pandora, especially with it being yet another IP. I'm glad that you said it was the biggest broken promise. I admit it validates how I feel some, and I appreciate it. It does, however, make me fear for my favorite ride, Dinosaur, given current announcements.
I used to hate Pandora because of Beastly Kingdom. I think its an okay land today but TBH I wish I could revisit the parks in the 2000's as a kid and see all the original rides they used to have.
Disney hasn't learned at all, they still announce most projects too early and people end up disappointed
How else do you build hype especially in an overall low educated population and the social media era.
Disney had the era of catering to the demographic that were thinkers and innovators and scientists and the brilliant people that ran the world with big ideas. That’s how Disney owned its property in FL and had its own telecommunications and energy company. Its how we had the EPCOT of the early 80’s! It was epic and grand and fun learning.
However the money managers wanted more profits and more mass population draw.
Many of those they were appealing to thought cognitive stimulation and EPCOT was ‘boring’.
They brought in more movie tie in’s, more commercials, more hype, made it ‘dumber’/‘easier’ to digest and comprehend. They removed a lot of the lessons of the rides. They turned MGM from the science and art and history of movies to hype.
They made the transition because it was money focused and hype, thrills and easy sells and made them crazy crazy profits.
Hype sells because the US and most of humanity functions on that level. Look at Florida as one example only very roughly 20 percent of the state population has any schooling beyond high school. Studies and students vary from years but this is a general snapshot in 2019 NAEP Proficient level was only 38 percent.
Of those in that state school system yep only 38 percent can even meet the bare minimum state standards.
Florida is only one state. New Mexico only has a 70 percent reading literacy rate among adults. Just the ability to read. In fact the literacy rate is only roughly 70-80 percent of adults for around half the states.
The biggest lie we tell is that people are smart, educated, and make good choices. Most aren’t and most don’t …most of our society is pretty lowly educated, out for what benefits them and likes ‘easy’.
@Li John if you think the 50s-60s families that complained when they went on the snow white ride and didnt see snow white were any smarter than the families that saw an avengers ride promised that didnt feature their favorite avenger, and instead got a ride featuring a different character from the same world... i dont know how to help you.
Walt himself fancied himself a scientist, innovator, storyteller, whatever... but he gave the public overpriced entertainment back then too. In many cases the people then were dumber because all you had to do was show a minstrel caricature and the public would laugh. The issie today is the theme parks are engrained in american culture. Theres this idea thar you *have* to go because upper-middle class families in the 80s and 90s went... And movies like Vacation exist. But disney, as much as it wants too be a western mecca, doesn't have to be. You shouldnt be a bad mother/father if you dont take your kids to disneyland. Id say its probably for the better. Hotel-resorts themselves are too expensive, then add park fees, overpriced food, long wait times, and entertainment that hasnt truly improved in 40 years.
Right? Looking now Michael Eisner saved the company 2 ceos later there in a worst situation than ever before. ↩️ at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if they fired iger and bring Eisner back at this point that’s the best option right now.
Most people arr harshly critical too though. I do wish that there was a park that felt like roleplaying, like you as a guest are part of the adventure.
Such a great deep dive into the cancelled projects. Great video and i'm sop glad you made this!
Glad to see you here bright sun films
Jake!!😀
It is such a shame that Thunder Mesa never got built. Wow, what an extraordinary thing that would have been. Having three attractions intertwine with each other like that?? Actually four, if you include the railroad
Wish there was an Alternate Universe where all these experiences where built in a Disney Park.
There's always Dreams on PS4. One guy is managing to make an entire Disney theme park in it.
@@SirBlackReeds Dreams?
I think Thunder Messa would fit into California Adventure. Just change the theme to the California Gold Rush and not only will you improve on a park that is kind of mid, but it can be the first new ride in a long time that isn't based off IP.
@Scofield Studios a none ip based ride never again
@@ericlee8231 Don't make me lose hope.
In an alternate universe, Epcot security has had a major problem of guests in track suits squatting around the Russia pavilion.
"Come and try our borscht at the new EXPANDED Russian Pavilion. Annexation has never tasted so sweet."
- Disney Ad
A Russia pavilion would never work since you can't sell alcohol in the Disney parks.
But think of the unemployed cast members who were going to portray KGB agents following the guests around the park.
Nah, you could. Just label it as Windex...or mouthwash...or cologne. Lol. @hedgehog3180
Finally my favorite Theme Park CZcamsr uploaded! It's kinda disappointing how Disney cancelled Beastly Kingdom that one hits the hardest because I love Dragons and having a roller coaster themed in a Dragons Den would have worked and I'm hoping one day we can get a Tamerial Theme Park and we can experience Alduin chasing after us in Skyrim!
Interesting.
Maybe we’ll see a Beastly Kingdom expansion happen as part of a phased expansion to Disney’s Animal Kingdom to get everyone hyped for the 30th anniversary in 2028!
Modern Disney lost its creativity in my opinion but I feel like I can make my own theme Park rides one day but for now I'll stick with Planet Coaster for now.
@@carminecdinoproductions zero chance now that Pandora’s there.
Then I remind you that Universal's new park will have not one, but two Dragon coasters, both of which look fricking cool. Sure, it's not set in a dragon's den, but it's much more than what Disney did, and it's hillarious that Universal is doing what Disney failed to do.
Here's hoping we get Farengar as the narrator
I will say this on where Disney was in that "overpromising and underdelivering" era (before the failures of the Disney Decade): alot of those early scrapped ideas for expansions and rides eventually found new life in future attractions, even if on the surface the final product didn't resemble the original concept in the slightest. Nowadays, they keep the announcements vague, show some flashy concept art, and then spend years developing something that isn't half as impressive as what was supposedly planned. And even then, what we get is usually a retheme of something that already exists. Anything really big or ambitious winds up on the drawing room floor, never to be developed or incorporated into another project. They've gone from overpromising to underdelivering, to underpromising and *still* underdelivering!
Especially with the promised quinjet ride at dca
Yep, the overpromising was disappointing, but in general, Eisner was definitely still "overdelivering" compared to the lazy output in the parks today.
I'm surprised you didn't mention Galaxy's edge and all the stuff cut from there that was advertised early on
Stuff like Roaming Aliens, bounty hunters coming after you if you did bad on Smuggler's Run (presumably magic band or app synched), the dinner show, and the museum (which seemed to be a relocation of the exhibits from Launch Bay?)
Galaxy's Edge has another dumb side to it, like the Sims 4 DLC they got EA to make to promote it and presumably get more money to make the attraction. And while the DLC was meant to provide a sort of virtual experience similar to the attraction and lure people to the park, it fails to be anything of the sort and probably made fewer people care, as it's dull and pointless.
There was also a 3rd planned ride that had finished testing and was ready to be built but was never built. It was a ride where you ride on a bantha. But it was a trackless ride and the ride vehicle is an animatronic. I saw a few videos of it on CZcams (only a few seconds of testing footage was shown of the actual ride working). It looked amazing and I hope they eventually build it. Same thing with the quinjet ride that was promised
Almost every land and individual attraction that Disney opens nowadays is severely budget cut.
Galaxy's Edge under Eisner Era would have probably been a separate theme park with locations based on the films but opening in 3 phases given how Eisner often blew the budget on stuff.
Tomorrowland 2055 is one of the great what-ifs of the Disney parks for me. That concept art *still* looks incredible!
Well it’s better than what we have now half the attractions are abandoned and the other half don’t belong there they belong in galaxy’s edge.
I can't wait for Epcot #2! Abandoned outdated technology ❤
I'm a huge Disney fan, however there is ONE false advertising gimmick that I recall to this day. Does anyone else remember this? Disneyland announced that the Electrical Light Parade would be displayed for the LAST time EVER in Disneyland for a couple months, going back 20 years or so, to get lots of people flocking to see it one last time.
After that it immediately debuted in California Adventure.
And since then it has AGAIN been featured in Disneyland. Which is great, it's a classic. Just cracks me up as a whole advertising campaign as IF it were going to be gone forever, haha.
Anyone else remember this one or is this my personal Mandela effect? :D
I feel like they've done that multiple times. It goes away for a year. Was like Jay-Z's retirement.
My parents have a supposedly commemorative light in a display box from this "event"
@@TheSmuskovits So I'm NOT crazy! ... at least on this subject, lol. Thanks for the note :D
I remember reading about Beastly Kingdom in the old Disney Magazine that was mailed to our house, and being so excited. Years go by, and no mention of it at all, like it disappeared off the face of the earth. Not only was I extremely disappointed, but I started wondering if I had misunderstood the article or even dreamed it all up. 😅
Universal Studios doesn't pull this BS that Disney does with always showing off concept art and overselling their future attractions.
Churro stand!
Case and point, Super Nintendo World coming out of almost nowhere in Japan and then that getting basically carbon copied in Hollywood
@@tomm2213 That wasnt an official announcement though. They were very tight lipped about everything even though we could see it being built in our faces. Plus they even gave out Churros to enhance that joke which was great.
Disney should have never acquired Avatar. Just kept on focus to do the unicorn and dragon stuff. Avatar doesn't age well.
Avatar is timeless.
@@themanofshadowsNo, it isn't. It's a dated '90s eco-preachy movie with current tech.
@@themanofshadows That movie is just style over substance. Nobody would care if the effects weren't anywhere near as good.
@@jlev1028 And the nineties ecological preaching turned out to be correct, with real world politicians being more cartoonishly evil than Capitan Planet villains. Each year we are closer to oblivion.
Joe Rhode managed to make Avatar fit into DAK, because it centers on a lush alien jungle moon being threatened by man.
Also, Pandora at DAK was announced and opened prior to Disney’s acquisition of Fox.
Are you telling me a giant corporation is being extremely deceptive, but only up to the point where they won't face legal action? NO WAY! I AM EXTREMELY SHOCKED
It's the fact people like you brush it off is why it keeps happening.
Its amazing how much those old World of Disney TV episodes from th 50s, 60s, and even 70s were used to advertise and hype up coming attractions, many still in the architectual stage. But yet Disney was better at delivering during those days, especially when Walt was still with us.
I know we would eventually get Expedition Everest at Animal Kingdom, but I still feel robbed that we didn’t get that Mt. Fuji coaster or the Matterhorn at Epcot.
9:23 I know why they originally used Native American stereotypes here! (And if you watch Kaz Rowe you already know too)
A lot of those "Miraculous elixer tonic cure-all!" Type products were marketed with Native American stereotypes to give it the idea of being "all-natural" and usually had some story about how the doctor selling it (who could even be a made up guy all together) learned it from native americans out west. The stories were pretty much always bullshit, but people loved that sort of notion back in the day and it definitely would've been something in the fictionscape of the people developing the land at this time considering how strong the romanticized "wild west" setting permeated american, especially white, society amd imagination
WE LOVE KAZ ROWE!!!!
So basically exactly what's still happening now with woo alt-medicine.
@@autobotstarscream765 I've never seen native American stereotypes on the commercials for medicine lmfao wat?
Due to medicinal herbal medicines like Peyote, but what do you mean by white? Irish? German? Europeans? You should be more specific.
@@HowManyHintsDoYouNeed I said *"American, especially white, society"* so it's pretty clear I meant white Americans
One possible idea for the Soviet Union pavilion: an animatronic Lenin who rises out of his coffin and greets visitors, calling them capitalist pig-dogs.
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I remember reading in some book about Epcot that the Fuji roller coaster wasn't canceled because of lack of sponsers, but because Kodak was a major sponsor of Epcot, and they didn't want there to be a ride with the same name of their biggest competition (Fuji Film)
Mount Kodaku? Compromise achieved 😂
Don't forget about The Epcot Experience, which was an entire showcase of broken promises, including the Mary Poppins attraction, the Play pavilion, the Spaceship Earth update, and the festival center. There was also the broken promise of the Main Street theater at the Magic Kingdom.
Thankfully, Yesterworld Entertainment never promise or deals with false advertising
Thunder Mesa is the one project you can look at and immediately know there was no way it'd ever happen, especially at the time it was announced. It was such a massive project that would have required a ton of landscaping and construction before they could even start on the rides that were supposed to go in it. That's a ton of money to spend on just a foundation. Most everything else they've done are just shells and require relatively little digging and building in comparison. Since Disney relied heavily on sponsors, and to some degree still do, there's just no way those big projects were possible unless they found someone else willing to pay for it
I was at EPCOT Center on day 1 and yes, there was something in Germany in that doorway. But I can only vaguely remember. Seems like it was a boat or something. I also remember the signs for spain, Africa and Israel. The african one had part of its facade built. You can see it even today with a collections of rocks between china and germany.
6:42 I love this commercial. The child actors, the cheesy sound effects, the disinterested voice of Orson Welles... perfect.
Your videos are my favorite on CZcams. The rarity of them makes them even better because of all the hard work and detail you put into them. Please keep putting videos out, we love them!
Appreciate the kind words :)
29:18 disney actually did have a sponsor for the ride, that being FujiFilm, which was kodaks major competitor at time. That was the reason the ride was cancelled.
That's what I'd always heard over the years, but I've never found concrete proof of this...so either way, if they did pull out, it was still technically cancelled for lack of sponsorship.
God throwback to when Disneys new announcements were big and exciting, and it didn’t often feel like a relief when they never went through. Miss when Disney had creativity
Thou Shalt Not Use The Lord’s Name In Vain!
Whoa, whoa, whoa, back that up a minute: They most certainly did/do announce and preview stuff at DCA that never came to pass. Lots and lots, actually. It may not have been advertised to the broader public but the Blue Sky Cellar was a constant wonderland of disappointment.
If the Russia Pavilion at EPCOT was built (or it still can be built) the focus would be on the pre-Soviet era Russia, their so-called "Golden Age." It wouldn't be an issue today. After all the China pavilion still exists despite the atrocious treatment of Tibetans and Uyghurs in recent years.
You best believe I saw your logo and clicked without reading the video title, in the absolute trust that this would be an interesting and engaging 49 minutes
Thunder Mesa really shows the divide between Walt's parks and Disney™️'s parks. Marc Davis designed a land that Walt would have fought to have been made as there was so much rich content and artistry that told an original story, whereas Disney™️ prioritized recreating pre-existing attractions and incorporating licensed Disney media and constantly gave up all together if it was too original and hard to build. You could tell that Tony Baxter tried his best to honor the vision the original imagineers had in a more corporate Disney.
Watching yesterworld and defunctland at 1AM or later is such a vibe
And when the world needed him the most, he came back
It just takes me forever to make these videos :)
I will never forgive them for getting my hopes up about the dragons in Animal Kingdom and then never actually adding them. I'm just glad I had a chance to even see the flame-thrower dragon cave before they closed it. ;;A;;
It's crazy to think how different the parks would be even if half of the attractions listed in the video came to be. We learned a lot of things we had no idea about lol
Well, there were lies about Star Wars land with how you would have in park experiences carry over throughout the day but that got used by the star wars hotel instead
Honestly I miss the Eisner era. No one can get everything right and not everything will be a success but he took risks. He used his imagination to create new and immersive experiences. Now Disney tries to add whatever IP is making the most money. I miss the attention to detail, storylines and new experiences. Disney became successful because they were pushing themselves to the limit. Walt Disney’s most famous quote is “It’s kind of fun to do the impossible.” Disney set out to do the impossible. Pushing their limits at ever turn and that payed off. Now they are no better than 6 flags. Their trashy IP’s and terrible theming is embarrassing for a company who once set the standard for the industry.
Lol exactly especially after they canceled that awesome quinjet ride for Anaheims avengers campus for a low budget multiverse ride. Also a good example of what you said is what disney is doing to pacific wharf at California adventure. They are just painting it and throwing pictures of hiro and Baymax all over not to mention they are going to put even one ride there.
Which is why after I take Disney over like Saul Steinberg almost did, I will be bringing back those times along with the Card Walker and Ron Miller eras under the mantra of Make Disney Great Again which is the answer to the age old question that once governed all decision making at Disney for decades and will again under my rule: "What would Walt do?" That means some IPs will be denied representation in the parks like the colonists were denied representation in Parliament.
@stanfordite1 I hope you get to one day, it would be amazing to see the parks be great again. I know a lot of the problems the disney parks are going through are due to greed and budget cute, but I feel like disney really screwed up when they tried to force imagineers to re locate and move to Florida. Many left due to that and it feels like that is affecting the creativity of the rides and lands. I've never been to wdw so I can only speak in terms of the California disney parks (I only live an hour away which is nice). But avengers campus is so devoid of creativity and feels soulless, like it Is the first land that I feel was primarily made to drive merchandise sales instead of Prioritizing the rides/experience. Galaxies edge looks good and rise of the resistance is amazing, but the land suffered greatly from budget cuts. It feels like there is more shopping and dining than actual rides. And they even canceled the 3rd planned Bantha ride. Anyways to get back to my main point, the newer lands feel greatly affected by a lot of the good imagineers leaving. Web slingers is just terrible even my younger brother didn't like it, and after promising it wasn't canceled they canceled the plans for the e ticket quinjet ride. I feel like this was also due to budget, since the higher ups probably didn't wanna spend a ton if thru could build something in its place on the cheap. So we are getting a lower budget multiverse ride, many are speculating it'll be an avengers re skin of runaway railway. Or it'll be another motion simulator/ theater type ride. I sadly don't have high hopes for it but I hope it'll end up being decent. Also the Dr strange show in the land is so bad it feels like it had a Lower budget than the dance shows at chuck e cheese
@@dayoldbread1696 I’ve only been to Disneyland once and it was before they finished Avengers Campus. I was so excited for this era because I love marvel, but when the land was revealed, I was nothing more than disappointed. The land looks awful, the rides looks like 6 flag attractions just with Disney IP. The only thing they did right with Avengers Campus is the characters waking around. There was so much potential for the Avengers and it’s heartbreaking that this is what they chose to do. I will say their Guardians of the Galaxy Rewind at Epcot is an amazing ride, the line queue is burning and not super immersive but the coaster makes up for it.
@Asteria same also I wish they didn't cancel the e ticket quinjet ride for a low budget multiverse ride
Watching an angry French citizen literally chucking things at Michael Eisner was the best thing I've seen in a long time.
Na it's just sad.The french were slamming Disney and judging the park before they even stepped foot in it. To this day the french are still ungrateful considering they have the best-themed castle park in the world by far. They ruined the Disney Decade.
I know we’ve gotten a couple of small examples of it in recent years (mostly in Epcot with stuff like the Mary Poppins spinner disappointment) but I do kind of wish it happened more? Or at least, I want more leaks of concepts. It’s not that I love them breaking promises or setting us up for disappointment, but it feels like Disney used to be more productive in terms of creative ideas. I am sure that isn’t true and that they’re as full of ideas now as they were, but we don’t get to see nearly all of it!
Great video, thanks for putting it all together :D
Nobody knows he’s the guy behind The Duck Song
Dick Tracy as was pretty successful when it came out, it was actually the result of contract disputes and rights problems with the estate of the dead creator, Disney and King Features Syndicate that led to the sequels getting cancelled, though they were made into novels in the 90's. The rights and contract problems are also why the filmmakers crammed so many villains from the comics into the movie, even before filming began they were aware there was going to be trouble getting a sequel made. Maybe Disney was disappointed it made the average blockbuster money instead of Batman money.
I wish they had actually built the dick tracy ride because it actually looked and sounded very fun
I was at EPCOT when the show building in Japan was closed. I had always wondered why there didn't seem to be much in that area. I remember that building and thought it was just a employee only place.
14:19 my dad gave me an opening year brochure from EPCOT, and I have always wanted a lot more from the world showcase announcing the other countries it’s a shame of what could’ve been. my family has been especially waiting for the Israel. One for decades now.
"With a group of bears doing...whatever bears do when nobody's looking."
WHAT SECRETS DO YOU HOLD!?
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Some of these look so cool! Esp Muppets and Thunder mesa... love the Marc Davis sketches! Also, all the fun pavilions representing other countries. Ah, remember when everyone wanted to share their culture and appreciate others'?
Great! You could have another whole video on Chapek and Covid canceled projects!
16:15 ' Disney's: Land of Unemployment ' love it 😂
The Un-Happiest Place on Earth
@@YesterworldEntertainment seriously love you vids man, watching them is a ritual around here lol :)
The other issue with the Edison exibit may have had to do with the fact that GE was founded by J.P Morgan after he swindled Edison out of his own electric company.
If we ever unlock the ability to cross dimensions, I'm moving to the reality where Beastly Kingdom happened and never coming back.
Same
Could you find one where you can still trade salt one for one with gold and bring me back some gold?
I can attest there were angry people walking around Animal Kingdom when it first opened asking staff where the Beastly Kingdom was, because it was still listed on the website and they hadn't updated it. Was so excited about Beastly Kingdom, I'd planned a major road trip for the opening of Animal Kingdom, and drove down from Canada just to see it. Got there, walked around and was confused to heck. At least I got to see the dead elephant and dead knights around the fire-breathing cave.
I can't tell you how much the "5 existing Disney parks in the US" line melted my brain. I rewinded like 3 times and counted
Disneyland, California Adventure, WDW Magic Kingdom, Animal Kingdom, Hollywood Studios, EPCOT
Technically six if you consider Disneyland and DCA separate parks
@@CaptainJZH Yep it is officially six. DCA is most definitely a separately ticketed park.
And six park names / logos were shown at approximately 1:45 - 1:50 in the video. The math for me was easy. Four in FL and two in CA.
Now if we get some smart alec doing math like “how many are essentially duplicates and how many would you actually want to visit?” that would make for some interesting numbers. Still six parks to visit for me.
Its always a good day when Mark uploads, doubly so when it's parks related!
I love your profile picture, is it a flag of something?
So many recent Epcot projects that were announced also got cancelled and/or changed. Communicore hall and plaza is a much more scaled down version of what we were supposed to get, play pavilion silently cancelled, marry poppins ride also cancelled.
This video was so cool but also made me really sad about all the things we never got
I’m so happy that you’re back after 4 months, it’s really nice to see another video coming from you! I’ve been following you for 5 years now, and I’m still entertained with your content!
SUCH a good job! Thank you! I love your old "Missing/incomplete/etc Attraction" videos so this is just a fun scoop of them all at once.
I went to Disneyland in 2018 and was kind of disappointed, it wasn’t the park I remembered it being. Seemed stripped down and a lot focus on food. The one thing I don’t want to do at amusement park is eat. We tried a few of those must try places and they were ok but nothing out of this world.
Carousel of Progress is my favorite ride. Every time I ride it I cry. The optimism for the future and respectn for yesterday... There's a great big beautiful tomorrow....
One thing to note about concept art: it’s just concept art. People like to look at movie concept art and say “look at this, look what we almost got, look what we could’ve had!” But the truth couldn’t be farther from the point! A lot of times, artists are given wide ideas to run wild with. So they make crazy and unique things that just aren’t in the vision for the film to begin with. I’d care to bet that imagineering is similar, but more refined. The purpose of the art is to get people excited for the new rides. Often times it’s made before everything is finalized. Of course the art isn’t going to match reality.
I've mentioned before...With VR becoming more and more affordable you'd think Disney could take some of these ideas and actually make them for home consumption.
A new upload from Yesterworld makes having a cold over the weekend not seem so bad! I can sit back, relax, and not worry about having to do anything.
Having just got over a nasty cold myself (of course right as I was wrapping up this episode), I hope you feel better :)
@@YesterworldEntertainment Thanks!
I had trouble sitting through this. I obsess over amusement parks (and failed amusement parks). One detail I go back to is the dioramas in the line to Space Mountain. Disney didn't clean the inside glass in the dioramas or the miniatures during the Eisner years. Beyond the lack of maintenance during the Eisner years is the Disney Genie Plus years. I'd rather go anywhere than there during these Disney MOO years.
This was fabulous. Thank you. The amount of work that went into this video is astonishing.
You said Disney wouldn't make showcases about promises they can't keep, but didn't they do that in the Odyssey building for the EPCOT transformation before Covid?
The Mount Fuji coaster was canceled because Kodak was a sponsor at Epcot and didn't want their arrival Fujifilm promoted even indirectly
The quality of these videos is always worth the wait ❤ Thank you as always for your hard work and thoughtful analysis
I do remember something for Disney's California Adventure, in late 2010 I went to DCA as part of a Middle School Field Trip, and they had a small wooden house like building that played a movie for upcoming attractions for DCA, including the Little Mermaid Ride (which was under construction), Cars Land ( I think), and one thing that didn't happen, an expansion of Hollywood Land. This expansion would've gotten rid of the matte painting at the end of the street and further extended the street. I forget much of what was planned I just remember them at some point saying they were going to expand Hollywood land.
It's called the Blue Sky Cellar 😉
Glad to see you again. I remember watching your videos as a young lad and being scared out of my mind by your Snow White video. I love the direction that your channel is going in. I hope that you are doing well.
Glad you’re back! Incredible research, learned some new things, thank you!
So excited! Always a great day when you drop an episode! Keep them coming!
I'm just happy to see this channel continue making videos.
Discovery Bay was showcased at Disneyland in the 70s. I remember seeing the models on Main Street as a teen.
Correct. The Discovery Bay & Dumbo Circus model and concept art were actually on display in Disneyland in the late 70's.
Exactly. Thousands of kids like me stared at that model again and again, and couldn't wait to see Discovery Bay, and also, perhaps to a lesser extent, Dumbo Circus.
Dumbo Circus would've been brilliant!
The one broken promise you forgot was the Mary Poppins attraction. All of that D23 announcement for nothing, and then the concept art was lekaed to show it was just gonna be a teacup ride with projection walls. Shame
I was tempted to include this...but...there's rumbling it's still in development, or was just drastically scaled back, which negates my 'rules' I established for this episode. I went back and forth on this one.
Same with the quinjet ride at avengers campus although it was actually going to be good but was canceled for something way cheaper to build
Excellent video. The depth of your research, the quality of your writing, and the polish of your presentation combined make your channel one of the best on CZcams. Thanks so much!
Always worth the wait for one of you videos. Thank you so much. And please keep them coming.
Great video as always! 🥳🎉 After attending D23 last year with Josh D and his Blue Sky ideas, I truly understand why Disney cannot and should not over promise and under deliver! 😜
Jim Henson, an absolute legend.
Just so you know as an ex castmember and team member of universal. Universal at one time was not ashamed of admitting that dueling dragons was originally created for wdw but was "deemed too intense" so the ride manufacturer sold it to Universal Orlando at a discount. And as an ex castmember from 00-05 I also heard the rumors that beastly kingdom was supposed to be a roller coaster. Which means dueling dragons was originally gonna be that coaster with a different name and slightly different themeing. That's why even when it was one of the most popular attains at Islands they didn't really go out of themeing way to promote it nor would they admit it was more popular that Spiderman. At the time
Nice to see you again. Great video as always.
So let me get this straight… there was a planned space themed area in EPCOT, and instead of doing something with that for the renovation, they did whatever they did “and cancelled already some of it”. I will die on the hill that Light Cycle Run should have been at EPCOT with The Grid being one of the updated lands. Yes I know it’s not specs. But still. Can you imagine if The Grid was a whole freaking area??!! Hell update TomorrowLand as that.
30:46 you can include among the lies, that the EPCOT we got, was the one Walt Disney wanted to build. The original Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow, wasn't just another tourist area, but a city where people would live. Seeing this community realized was far more important then a second Disneyland on the East Coast. At a Disney board meeting held after Walt passed on, when the subject of EPCOT was brought up, the member who asked the question was informed "Walt's no longer here", and there was no interest I'm aware of from anyone in the company, including Roy Disney, to bring EPCOT as a community, into reality. By the Time Roy passed on, it was decided to just turn it into another Tourist Area. So Walt could build this city, was the whole reason for the Reedy Creek Development being made a special district exempt from other jurisdictions. The only community that came out of Reedy Creek, were a couple of Cul De Sacs, with mobile homes moved in, which of course are owned by Disney.
Was not expecting to look over in my recommended videos and see a new Yesterworld vid! So excited!
Yes!! Another Yesterworld video!! I can’t believe it’s been a quarter of a year since your last upload!! 💕✨