Is Fire & Water element an absolute necessity? I would've wanted to try earth just for the roleplay aspect, do you think that'd be a big downside? I have no idea what it actually does, I just find earth cool.
One recommendation for starting stats: Drop dex to 17. You get +5 to allocate through leveling up so the end # is the same. This lets you bump STR to 11 (You're wearing HEAVY armor, early game this will be impossible to do with a strength of 8 without becoming overburdened.)
I had so much fun with this character - It's my favourite build so far! Sadly I could talk for hours about why this build is really effective but I tried to include all the important parts in a 20 minutes videos as best I could! Further info why this build is good : - All Weapon buffs can be applied to Kinetic Sword! - Very High Saving Throws - Can fight fully defensively while still hitting enemies - Lots of Divine Damage synergy. - Can use the benefits of Shield - While also making full use of the Full Crane Style featline - Perfect Synergy with Aeon Spellbook + Abilities! - LOTS of items are designed for Kineticists in mind! - If you are using an Alchemist like I did, you can put Tranformation on your Kineticist and they will gain full BAB Progression!
instead of witch, take crossblooded sorceror, with undead and fey bloodline, use mythic feats to take 10dr/cold iron and 5dr/-, just the 5dr alone is the defensive bonus of a level 20 barbarian, so good
@@HDHaZmY BTW would really appreciate if future (maybe this one too?) build could have a text version, so there would be no need to jump through the video in order to see what I should take at one level or another👍
A link to a google spreadsheet would be invaluable. If you would want to follow this build, you would have to keep the video open and skip around as you leveled up
Thank you for the feedback Neutron! While creating a spreadsheet is not something I consider a solution, I am open to feedback on how to make the video format itself better!
@@HDHaZmY If no spreadsheet, then there needs to be one screen where the build is explained in its entirety. Each level, and what to take as a synopsis. A spreadsheet is simply the easiest way to do that.
It's either you link us the spreadsheet, you make one and use it in the video and for some reason you don't link it, or there's no solution. The format itself is ok, but having to waste 10 minutes everytime you level up or after not playing for a while becomes very annoying very quickly
You don't really need to go for dex. The best armor in the game only allows a +3 dex bonus, even if you don't use the enhancements belts, you can easily get a +4 with cat's grace, so at best you only need 13 dex to start with (because of feats). This allows you to skip finesse feat. Personally I'd go with a 19/13/18/7/10/9 spread (angelkin aasimar).
my dextery is 18 but wearing heavy armor is not going to be a problem for high dextery? also making Elf char is bad idea with this build? i was thinking about getting +2 spell penetration bonus. sory if this sound stupid im new to this game.
I am new to the game, you take quite a few teamwork feats with this build. I am assuming every character in your party also takes them? Great video, thanks!
What's spell penetration for? Kineticist doesn't cast. The charge is just an ability that does elemental damage. You just need the mythical feature that overcomes resistance and immunity for one element.
Do yall think that the Gold Dragon Mythic path could work here too with this build? I am still brand new to the systems of this game and I don't really know enough!! 😂
I noticed you took a lot of teamwork items and feats, but in the gameplay footage, most of the time, you were standing along fighting. Do you think it would be worth it to skip some of them to gain more feats? Also, as I've never played Kineticist, word online is that Kinetic Knight is one of the weaker classes and you're almost better off just using base class. What's the pros and cons of going Base class vs KK in your opinion?
Ah no - definitely worth it, I was just showcasing in the video how powerful the character is, but I always have 2-3 other characters nearby normally! Yeah take everything you hear online with a grain of salt, I guess including me - Lots of numbercrunching and mindless min-maxing. Objectively speaking if anyone says Kinetic Knight is weak is full of horseshit since any Kineticist can hardly be weak in the first place. Kinetic Knight is a more balanced organic choice if you want to be melee from the get go. Kinetic Knight allows you to be a frontline melee kineticist from level 1 straight while a normal Kineticist would not be able to do that well until level 6 - also they can't wear heavy armor and shield so they would be significantly weaker until level 10. TL;DR - Most people compare Kinetic Knight vs Ranged Kineticist - but they are a complete different flavor of playstyle, duh.
KK is a roleplay heavy class instead of a feat pack so people are very salty about this class the same way they are with everything that can't take 7 lv 1 classes dip for min max...
@@luantib Kinda - I still feel Kinetic Knight is better for melee than normal Kineticist for the first 10 levels but I feel people are tunnel-visioning on level 20 final results and ignore leveling, especially early-game. I try to change people's mind about this every day.
@@HDHaZmY why bother with this "weak" class when you can just do a rav earth nuke build instead.... this is sarcasm, as the whole point is that people enjoy different things, so the most op version of a class is not the best version of that class for everyone.
looking at this a few months late now tha I got the game. Hopefully someone might come by and answer this : Why cold blast for water element ? since we will have another way to proc elemental barrage, wouldn't water blast be more interesting ? this way we get the steam composite blast, and while not always of use, against lower AC ennemy it would allow one's DPR to skyrocket in midlevels, before we get blue fire
Hello thanks for the guide, I have question when U pick lightning(air) as starting element do you have blue electricly charged sword rather than flame? and can u pick the blue flame if you chose air at the begining?
@@HDHaZmY guess I'll have to test. But I know zippy magic works with kinetic blast. Since kinetic blade is a melee blast, it *should* work too. I'll update when I get there.
You forgot one thing: elemental-type kinetic sword targets touch AC. Most of the bosses are armored like crazy, but very few of them have ample touch AC. With the right mythic feats or paths, they'll be dealing damage consistently. Spell resistance will be a challenge at the beginning, but once in the final two chapters, you can get enough caster level checks to beat the SR of even the toughest bosses. My kinetic knight playthrough was a dhampir Gold Dragon Pure Fire path, so at the end game, I had resistance against almost all damage type except force and holy.
Question, graphically speaking, can I make the blade look like a dueling sword held in two hands even if its one handed? or can I only make it look like a longsword?
Kineticist are fairly simple! You have your Kinetic Blasts which you can cast for free to do damage with your chosen elements! As you level you will be able to choose from various bonus effects called Infusions that enhance your Blasts, such as Bonus Damage or Blind. These so called Infusions all have a cost, which is Burn and you will be only be able to cast as much as your Burn Limit allows ( You start with 3 Burn and +1 for every 2 Constitution! ) and each used up burn takes away chunks of your maximum health until the next rest! When you want to do normal damage you can cast normal Blasts or as a Kinetic Knight you can use your Kinetic Blade for free!
I'm playing a similar build but I didn't want to take the crane feats. I thought that i could go with the shield, don't take water element and take feats that boost my shield AC. I'm also using Seelah as a tower shield specialist so i can take stuff like shield wall. Do you think it's doable? I play on normal and I think it is but it's my first pathfinder game and i have no experience. Anyway thanks for the video, i'll use it as a model ^^
You will be more than fine! - The reason I recommend with going with the Shroud of Water shield line is that it stacks with your Kineticist levels and it can reach up to +9 Shield Bonus with a 20 Level Kineticist without actually using a shield and you can still reap all the Crane Style benefits! Overall this character need lots of Feats so I also prefer to use feats elsewhere instead in Shield Focus!
Why stack initiative? Is it just so you can kill things first before they kill you? I always thought of initiative as most useful for buffers or crowd control specialists.
Same as a normal weapon - make sure to have your kinetic blade enabled so it will be a permanent item on your character sheet. Buff up - remove your 2 rings of whichever accessories are the least important and cast the hammer buff on yourself for additional 2 attacks per round! Aweome that you enjoy it Dumpling!
hi, could it work on Core, solo demon kin (with, maybe, alchemist Woljif backsitting by request) and this terrible Leper Smile location? I just stuck there with another class on Core, far far from soloing as well
ty for build. but i have question. when i hit enemy with magic resist by my energy sword+aeon bane i must made double penetration check and choose lower result. why? is it bug or what?
@@HDHaZmY i try some times. accept attack then use dispel with 1 penetration check and then disadvantage penetration check and take lower result to energy damage. modificator penetration check aeon bane not equil modificator penetration energy sword
Any level loss in Kineticist makes you do less damage - every odd level in kineticist gives you 1d6 damage. Also the whole point is to use the Kinetic Blade for Touch attack.
The build is great, but the video format is atrocious. There's way too much jumping between different types of progression without any sort of "final look" or something like a Google/MS doc to tie it together or lay it out in a comprehensive way.
I hear you, thank you for the feedback! While creating a spreadsheet is not something I consider a solution, I am open to feedback on how to make the video format itself better!
@@HDHaZmY I hear ya, spreadsheets aren't necessarily a fun solution! For this build, specifically... Maybe keep the advancements with the corresponding levels in chronological order? For instance, your level 3 feat, and then if you get a wild talent at next level, have that listed immediately after that rather than splitting them in to two different sections. I think this might help with flow for this kind of build specifically. I guess a good example would be classes with hexes? Something like Level 3: Feat Level 4: Hex Level 5: Feat Etc Rather than splitting them up Then maybe a final look/list onscreen at what you did when in the order you did it? Not perfect solutions, but hopefully they can help you find a format that's easy to follow and you enjoy working in! Thank you for your content!
@@FirstLast-ks6vm Thank you for the response, I do admit Kineticist was a challenge in comparison since they have so many different abilities to include. I will try to maybe include a final form aswell in future videos and put more information into the leveling sequences. Overall, I just don't want a link to a different format, since that's quite counter-productive for a video channel. I'd rather improve the video itself.
You pretty much use the hammer the same way as any other build - you just unequip your accessories and have one character use the hammer buff on your character for additional attacks!
Hello! Do you know if theres another race that would suit this build well? I'm unfortunately not a halfling enjoyer and I can't really get myself to make one q_q
Can you make a physical based version guide of this? Not dealing with spell penetrations make a huge difference in building to me ! Also, you didnt mention kinetic FLYING BLADE and kinetic whip.... Check them out ! Example: earth kinetic knight is surrounded and flanked by enemies, he uses the blade to make a whirlwind type aoe attack bludgeon damages them, entangles them (or trips them over) and maybe magnetises them (- to AC) ... Now put mythic abilities into the mix ! I have no idea what might happen... But I want to try a negative energy kinetic lich build so much !...cheers !
I’m lvl 5. I’ve tested Earth and took Bowling Infusion + Trip and Greater Trip. So far it looks like Earth is doing more damage, at low lvl atleast. Kinetic Blade doing slashing, piercing AND bludgeoning, but no elemental. If I succesfully hit with kinetic blade and its not a killing blow, a trip is also atempted. How Will this be late game compared to Flame?
@@HDHaZmY Ah, I see. Forgot about that. Guess it's less notable in early game when AC on enemies are pretty low 🤷🏻♂️ Guess I'll try Half Elf with +2 to spell pen and choose feat Spell pen at lvl 3. That should help with Flame 😬
@@rujo700 late game kineticist is pretty strong. with earth you can use the deadly earth and wall infusions and everything will just die trying to get to you and tripping and bull rushing back. I am not sure if a kinetic knight gets the blasts though. but i am sure that regular kineticist gets the flame sword.
@@rujo700 I don't think that it does. I used to give Valerie a few levels in kinetic knight as part of one of her builds. also some thug levels and monk. regular kineticist is really strong late game though. they get deadly earth and wall infusions. you can also put the bull rush and trip maneuvers on those to knock back all the enemies and trip them while damaging them. but a kineticist is better in normal mode than turn based. you lay down a wall out of view of the enemy and then start the fight with deadly earth on top of them with pushing infusion. I forgot how to add trip to your bull rush but it is possible.
@@HDHaZmY Thanks, I've been binging all your content trying to climb that learning curve. I'm sorry I didn't spend enough time to state specifically what I meant, partially to time but also inexperience with the difficulty curve. What I was trying to ask is at what general stat/number levels would you consider a build to be unfair viable verses not? I know it isn't just a "AC of 90 ,To Hit of 45" answer, but I was curious what you thought where the threshold may be.
@@gamerdad9051 Frankly that's hard to answer in short - overall Unfair is unfair and it requires your characters to be able to either one-shot everything or have complete immunity and super high AC since everything would kill you - I don't really play unfair since I find it a horrible difficulty. Generally speaking, Unfair requires characters that leave no chance for mistakes and I find those characters inherently boring.
@@HDHaZmY I can understand that, I have this compulsion to get that achievement, but I'm horrible at these games. :) So I'll see how much longer I beat my head against the wall until I give up. Cheers
I built something similar, and found that is hit hard and often, but that I would quickly run out of burn and become useless lol. How do you keep your burn in check?
Using burn is actually not advised as a Kinetic Knight since it will reduce your maximum health and thus your survivability. My damage numbers are all on 0 burn - any increase just makes it even stronger.
@@HDHaZmY I don't understand how those two things can go together tho? The attacks create burn unless you gather power right? I noticed as I leveled him up that the burn cost of any particular blast decreased as you leveled up, but my strongest blasts always cost something.
@@jza61nick I pretty much used only Burnign Infusion only almost all game until the spell bypass Infusion at end-game. The Base Kinetic Attack is more than enough. This is a very simple character, not really using infusions or burn at all - you might be overcomplicating it.
You can get Full Base Attack Bonus through Transformation from Alchemist - additionally in Notable Items I highly suggest not skipping on the Final Item ( which in my opinion is the most OP item in the game ) - the hammer. The Hammer gives +2 Attacks at maximum Base Attack Bonus per Round to any character that uses only 1 Accessory Slot Item - This buff works with Enduring Spells for 24 Hours!
ok, I have no clue how you can say this works at all levels... you do zero damage at the start! Daerans mansion you are absolutely useless fighting the simplest of mobs
I am sorry that's your experience - I can guarantee you this works since I livestreamed the whole playthrough to an audience of 70 from start to finish doing every challenge on Hard difficulty.
Great tank,and it will be able to tank everything,uhmm no not on unfair it wont,it will get one shot like a bitch,lol all these op builds are same,none of them are tested even on hard,let alone unfair,so basically uselless,sorry if the truth hurts,its just the way it is.
1 - The video clearly says HARD AND BELOW. 2 - I literally played this character through a hard campaign on Livestream, completing all optional fights easily. You are full of shit, sorry if it hurts, its just the way it is.
Tbh kk just sucks lol. really not worth a position in team, 500 dpr is literally bottom tier damage mc can achieve at max level/mythic. The only way kk worth playing is utilizing glitches from Lich path.
Written guide for me.
Race - Halfing(hasty) - pickpocket
Stats - 8,18,16,14,12,10 (all extras in dex?)
Skills - Mobility, perception, persuasion, umd(spare)
level 1 - kinetic knight - weapon finesse, fire element
level 2 - fire fury
level 3 - Spell pen
level 4 - fire bonus feat - iron will
level 5 - Burning Infusion, Shake it off
level 6 - fire bonus feat - imp iron will
level 7 - water element, Outflank
level 8 - Witch - Hexplant
level 9 - Monk - Dodge, Crane Style
level 10 - Fighter - Crane Wing
level 11 - expanded element - shroud of water, Gtr Spell Pen
level 12 -
level 13 - kinetic healer, Cautious Fighter
level 14 - Flash Infusion
level 15 - flame shield, fire element, Back to back
level 16 - Unravelling infusion
level 17 - familiar hare, combat expertise
level 18 -
level 19 - any wild talent, crane riposte
level 20 - Pure flame infusion
Mythic
1) Ascendant Element Fire
2) Mythic Spell Pen
3) always a chance
4) Extra feat (weapon focus - blast)
5) leading strike
6) Mythic weapon focus
7) over-infused blasts
8) extra feat - toughness
9) elemental barrage
10) mythic toughness
thank you for this
Thanks man, this is exactly what I've been looking for. Cool to see you making Kinetic Knight work so well, despite so many people saying it's bad!
Is Fire & Water element an absolute necessity? I would've wanted to try earth just for the roleplay aspect, do you think that'd be a big downside? I have no idea what it actually does, I just find earth cool.
You should be fine, this character is super strong either way!
Got a solid dose of nostalgia from your character's name.
One recommendation for starting stats: Drop dex to 17. You get +5 to allocate through leveling up so the end # is the same. This lets you bump STR to 11 (You're wearing HEAVY armor, early game this will be impossible to do with a strength of 8 without becoming overburdened.)
Feel free to adjust your attribute points as you wish, I always roleplay mine at character creation.
@@HDHaZmY is it possible to change the build and add Combat Reflexes and Seize the Moment to it?
Damn, wish I read this earlier. Early game is really annoying now, constantly on the verge of being overburdened.
Great build. One mythic feat I recommend is flawless attacks. It reduces the spread between attacks from 5 to 4.
Could work yeah!
I caught the character name reference, well played
I had so much fun with this character - It's my favourite build so far! Sadly I could talk for hours about why this build is really effective but I tried to include all the important parts in a 20 minutes videos as best I could!
Further info why this build is good :
- All Weapon buffs can be applied to Kinetic Sword!
- Very High Saving Throws
- Can fight fully defensively while still hitting enemies
- Lots of Divine Damage synergy.
- Can use the benefits of Shield - While also making full use of the Full Crane Style featline
- Perfect Synergy with Aeon Spellbook + Abilities!
- LOTS of items are designed for Kineticists in mind!
- If you are using an Alchemist like I did, you can put Tranformation on your Kineticist and they will gain full BAB Progression!
I am clearly doing it wrong, I cant even get my elemental blade to allow me to use it says 1 by it but wont allow me to click it
i got it....you cant have change shape on sigh....
@@Hades16899 Yeah that's a current bug with Kitsune, make sure to report it!
instead of witch, take crossblooded sorceror, with undead and fey bloodline, use mythic feats to take 10dr/cold iron and 5dr/-, just the 5dr alone is the defensive bonus of a level 20 barbarian, so good
Did you make your lann into an eldritch archer?
Alright bud, you blew me away with this one. You are getting much better at making these videos too! :)
Thank you for giving me another chance!
I haven't heard the name Tasselhoff Burrfoot for probably thirty years.
That's an awesome build, thank you!
Enjoy!
Tasslehoff burrfoot!!! Love the name haha
Chat recommended :')
@@HDHaZmY I’m level 7 in your aeon banish wizard spec but man this makes me want respec him haha
Nice, just was thinking about making an aeon kineticist for my next walkthrough. Good job on this one!
Ohh, hope you will have a blast!
@@HDHaZmY BTW would really appreciate if future (maybe this one too?) build could have a text version, so there would be no need to jump through the video in order to see what I should take at one level or another👍
This guide is really well done, will check out others!
A link to a google spreadsheet would be invaluable. If you would want to follow this build, you would have to keep the video open and skip around as you leveled up
Thank you for the feedback Neutron!
While creating a spreadsheet is not something I consider a solution, I am open to feedback on how to make the video format itself better!
@@HDHaZmY If no spreadsheet, then there needs to be one screen where the build is explained in its entirety. Each level, and what to take as a synopsis. A spreadsheet is simply the easiest way to do that.
It's either you link us the spreadsheet, you make one and use it in the video and for some reason you don't link it, or there's no solution. The format itself is ok, but having to waste 10 minutes everytime you level up or after not playing for a while becomes very annoying very quickly
Great explanation and build. Thanks!
Thanks for supporting Oleg!
"I had a "blast" with this character." Pun intended i hope. :D Also i might try this out.
You don't really need to go for dex. The best armor in the game only allows a +3 dex bonus, even if you don't use the enhancements belts, you can easily get a +4 with cat's grace, so at best you only need 13 dex to start with (because of feats). This allows you to skip finesse feat.
Personally I'd go with a 19/13/18/7/10/9 spread (angelkin aasimar).
As I said in the video - I went DEX for roleplaying purposes, never said It is the best way to go or the best build. It's my build.
my dextery is 18 but wearing heavy armor is not going to be a problem for high dextery? also making Elf char is bad idea with this build? i was thinking about getting +2 spell penetration bonus. sory if this sound stupid im new to this game.
My energy sword just keeps disappearing and I'm punching people and doing nothing but charging power I'm so confused
Character name makes me want to read Dragon lance again 🙂
I am new to the game, you take quite a few teamwork feats with this build. I am assuming every character in your party also takes them? Great video, thanks!
What's spell penetration for? Kineticist doesn't cast. The charge is just an ability that does elemental damage. You just need the mythical feature that overcomes resistance and immunity for one element.
i test it, spell pen deal much more damage than just mythic elemental
Energy blasts like fire, lightning, and blue flame still have to contend with spell resistance
@@masterjoda999 i know it now, tested it myself, but it's still weird
What is OP in this build, it is more likely about Aeon mythic path, I don't see any OPish things in the build though.
Do yall think that the Gold Dragon Mythic path could work here too with this build? I am still brand new to the systems of this game and I don't really know enough!! 😂
Can you run this kinetic knight with angel perhaps? I didnt wanna pick Aeon and really like this build :)
It works with all paths as it's powerful by itself - but you won't be dispelling with your hits!
I noticed you took a lot of teamwork items and feats, but in the gameplay footage, most of the time, you were standing along fighting. Do you think it would be worth it to skip some of them to gain more feats?
Also, as I've never played Kineticist, word online is that Kinetic Knight is one of the weaker classes and you're almost better off just using base class. What's the pros and cons of going Base class vs KK in your opinion?
Ah no - definitely worth it, I was just showcasing in the video how powerful the character is, but I always have 2-3 other characters nearby normally!
Yeah take everything you hear online with a grain of salt, I guess including me - Lots of numbercrunching and mindless min-maxing. Objectively speaking if anyone says Kinetic Knight is weak is full of horseshit since any Kineticist can hardly be weak in the first place.
Kinetic Knight is a more balanced organic choice if you want to be melee from the get go. Kinetic Knight allows you to be a frontline melee kineticist from level 1 straight while a normal Kineticist would not be able to do that well until level 6 - also they can't wear heavy armor and shield so they would be significantly weaker until level 10.
TL;DR - Most people compare Kinetic Knight vs Ranged Kineticist - but they are a complete different flavor of playstyle, duh.
KK is a roleplay heavy class instead of a feat pack so people are very salty about this class the same way they are with everything that can't take 7 lv 1 classes dip for min max...
@@luantib Kinda - I still feel Kinetic Knight is better for melee than normal Kineticist for the first 10 levels but I feel people are tunnel-visioning on level 20 final results and ignore leveling, especially early-game.
I try to change people's mind about this every day.
@@HDHaZmY why bother with this "weak" class when you can just do a rav earth nuke build instead.... this is sarcasm, as the whole point is that people enjoy different things, so the most op version of a class is not the best version of that class for everyone.
Any chance you can make build for Overwhelming Soul Lich?
Gotta create some other classes first :P
Why is my chars health say 121 60/61 also
Did they hand wave the kinetic whip requirement and allow AOOs and multiple attacks in the game, or is that just not included?
looking at this a few months late now tha I got the game. Hopefully someone might come by and answer this :
Why cold blast for water element ? since we will have another way to proc elemental barrage, wouldn't water blast be more interesting ? this way we get the steam composite blast, and while not always of use, against lower AC ennemy it would allow one's DPR to skyrocket in midlevels, before we get blue fire
Hello thanks for the guide, I have question when U pick lightning(air) as starting element do you have blue electricly charged sword rather than flame? and can u pick the blue flame if you chose air at the begining?
Any experience using Tsunami Wild Talent with a build like this? Give a little AoE/Range to the build.
Sadly no - I haven't played Pathfinder in a long while!
So I decided to give a try with this class. Gotta say it's good. Question : is Azata zippy magic affecting the blade or not ?
Can't tell, I never tried - but since it's not a spell I would say no!
@@HDHaZmY guess I'll have to test. But I know zippy magic works with kinetic blast. Since kinetic blade is a melee blast, it *should* work too. I'll update when I get there.
@@TheGXDivider so... any updates?
@@lucasbrant9856 it works fine and is a must have.
You forgot one thing: elemental-type kinetic sword targets touch AC. Most of the bosses are armored like crazy, but very few of them have ample touch AC. With the right mythic feats or paths, they'll be dealing damage consistently. Spell resistance will be a challenge at the beginning, but once in the final two chapters, you can get enough caster level checks to beat the SR of even the toughest bosses. My kinetic knight playthrough was a dhampir Gold Dragon Pure Fire path, so at the end game, I had resistance against almost all damage type except force and holy.
Uhm, that's the whole point of the build, I mentioned it several times I am sure - the whole character is about attacking Touch Armor.
He mentions it A LOT in the video. Did you not watch it?
Question, graphically speaking, can I make the blade look like a dueling sword held in two hands even if its one handed? or can I only make it look like a longsword?
Sadly Kinetic Blades only look like Scimitars
tbh I struggle with a general understanding of this class. I tried to make one a long time ago and couldnt get it to build up any burn to do blast.
Kineticist are fairly simple!
You have your Kinetic Blasts which you can cast for free to do damage with your chosen elements! As you level you will be able to choose from various bonus effects called Infusions that enhance your Blasts, such as Bonus Damage or Blind.
These so called Infusions all have a cost, which is Burn and you will be only be able to cast as much as your Burn Limit allows ( You start with 3 Burn and +1 for every 2 Constitution! ) and each used up burn takes away chunks of your maximum health until the next rest!
When you want to do normal damage you can cast normal Blasts or as a Kinetic Knight you can use your Kinetic Blade for free!
I'm playing a similar build but I didn't want to take the crane feats. I thought that i could go with the shield, don't take water element and take feats that boost my shield AC. I'm also using Seelah as a tower shield specialist so i can take stuff like shield wall. Do you think it's doable? I play on normal and I think it is but it's my first pathfinder game and i have no experience. Anyway thanks for the video, i'll use it as a model ^^
You will be more than fine! - The reason I recommend with going with the Shroud of Water shield line is that it stacks with your Kineticist levels and it can reach up to +9 Shield Bonus with a 20 Level Kineticist without actually using a shield and you can still reap all the Crane Style benefits!
Overall this character need lots of Feats so I also prefer to use feats elsewhere instead in Shield Focus!
Why stack initiative? Is it just so you can kill things first before they kill you? I always thought of initiative as most useful for buffers or crowd control specialists.
Getting Flat-Footed is your worst-enemy until Foresight. So you want as much Initiative as possible to attack and start Defensive Fighting!
@@HDHaZmY That makes sense. I guess I'm so used to my current monk tank with uncanny dodge that I forgot about flat-footed XD
I’m level 11 in this build and it’s awesome! My only question is how does the mace you linked work if you’re using the kinetic sword?
Same as a normal weapon - make sure to have your kinetic blade enabled so it will be a permanent item on your character sheet.
Buff up - remove your 2 rings of whichever accessories are the least important and cast the hammer buff on yourself for additional 2 attacks per round!
Aweome that you enjoy it Dumpling!
@@HDHaZmY oh ok because i found a dagger that increases blast damage and I wasn’t sure if I just put it in the offhand slot or not
@@dumplingshakes22 Oh I wonder what dagger that is - but yeah Kinetic Knight can't use that.
Is this build still effective in the current state of the game, and can it be adjusted to be human instead of halfling?
hi, could it work on Core, solo demon kin (with, maybe, alchemist Woljif backsitting by request) and this terrible Leper Smile location? I just stuck there with another class on Core, far far from soloing as well
It's not designed to solo with - could work but a normal kineticist is better suited for solo.
@@HDHaZmY sorry what is normal kin? you have on your channel? thanks for reply and content
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ty for build. but i have question. when i hit enemy with magic resist by my energy sword+aeon bane i must made double penetration check and choose lower result. why? is it bug or what?
One is for your dispel and one is for your blast from my experience.
@@HDHaZmY i try some times. accept attack then use dispel with 1 penetration check and then disadvantage penetration check and take lower result to energy damage. modificator penetration check aeon bane not equil modificator penetration energy sword
I'm curious if this build could work with the demon mythic path?
DO you use the most heavy armor, or a lighter one that allows more dex to be used?
This one I went for full armor for roleplaying purposes - but later you get really good heavy armor with Dex.
@@HDHaZmY Thanks! Gonna try thing, been waning to try a kinetic knight since kingmaker really :D
Very interesting. What do you use as armor, if you didn't take Archmage armour Mythic feat with potions?
Full Mythral Plate Armor - unarmored is better min-maxing wise but I wanted to roleplay heavy armor and I never had any issues.
@@HDHaZmY Thank you, is Kinetic Overcharge worth taking or not?
@@user-ii1ke9ex4u You don't gather power as Kinetic Knight so no.
@@HDHaZmY Equal Force and Relativity had to use? Flawless Attacks?
So this build is one hand light weapon style and other hand empty? Why not combining it with duelist then?
Any level loss in Kineticist makes you do less damage - every odd level in kineticist gives you 1d6 damage.
Also the whole point is to use the Kinetic Blade for Touch attack.
@@HDHaZmY Oh. Thats powerful. Never playing the kinetist. I see now.
The build is great, but the video format is atrocious. There's way too much jumping between different types of progression without any sort of "final look" or something like a Google/MS doc to tie it together or lay it out in a comprehensive way.
I hear you, thank you for the feedback!
While creating a spreadsheet is not something I consider a solution, I am open to feedback on how to make the video format itself better!
@@HDHaZmY I hear ya, spreadsheets aren't necessarily a fun solution! For this build, specifically... Maybe keep the advancements with the corresponding levels in chronological order? For instance, your level 3 feat, and then if you get a wild talent at next level, have that listed immediately after that rather than splitting them in to two different sections. I think this might help with flow for this kind of build specifically. I guess a good example would be classes with hexes? Something like
Level 3: Feat
Level 4: Hex
Level 5: Feat
Etc
Rather than splitting them up
Then maybe a final look/list onscreen at what you did when in the order you did it?
Not perfect solutions, but hopefully they can help you find a format that's easy to follow and you enjoy working in! Thank you for your content!
@@FirstLast-ks6vm Thank you for the response, I do admit Kineticist was a challenge in comparison since they have so many different abilities to include.
I will try to maybe include a final form aswell in future videos and put more information into the leveling sequences.
Overall, I just don't want a link to a different format, since that's quite counter-productive for a video channel. I'd rather improve the video itself.
This may be way to late but any reason in particular fire is used vs any of the other elements?
It's cool ^^
Fav crpg are this and dos 2
Is this viable for merc? ie. no aeon feats?
Yes it would be viable for mercenaries aswell, dont HAVE to be an Aeon
you didnt show deity????
Can we do this guide as an azata ? I want to play as azata because of rp
Yea sure!
Didn't get how to use the hammer in this build... Can you please enlight me in this issue?
You pretty much use the hammer the same way as any other build - you just unequip your accessories and have one character use the hammer buff on your character for additional attacks!
last question, what determines the damage they can do?
Super late, sorry I missed this. Ever Odd level a Kineticist get +1d6 damage dice.
Why are you using ever ready, kinetic blade can't make AoOs
I Respeced and now my kinetic blade is gone ? is that a bug or can i get it back somehow ?
Nevermind reloading brought it back
Hello! Do you know if theres another race that would suit this build well? I'm unfortunately not a halfling enjoyer and I can't really get myself to make one q_q
Well any technically, it's not too big of a difference!
Is this viable w lich ???
Yeah definitely, it would work very well actually.
Tas would never stoop to using any weapon other than a Hoopack, Shame on you :)
Can you make a physical based version guide of this?
Not dealing with spell penetrations make a huge difference in building to me !
Also, you didnt mention kinetic FLYING BLADE and kinetic whip.... Check them out !
Example: earth kinetic knight is surrounded and flanked by enemies, he uses the blade to make a whirlwind type aoe attack bludgeon damages them, entangles them (or trips them over) and maybe magnetises them (- to AC) ... Now put mythic abilities into the mix ! I have no idea what might happen... But I want to try a negative energy kinetic lich build so much !...cheers !
Kinetic whip/hurricane isn't in the game unless you use mods.
I’m lvl 5. I’ve tested Earth and took Bowling Infusion + Trip and Greater Trip. So far it looks like Earth is doing more damage, at low lvl atleast. Kinetic Blade doing slashing, piercing AND bludgeoning, but no elemental. If I succesfully hit with kinetic blade and its not a killing blow, a trip is also atempted.
How Will this be late game compared to Flame?
A lot less reliable since Physical attacks target normal Armor Class and not Touch Armor Class.
Normal will have to reach 60+
Touch AC only 30+
@@HDHaZmY Ah, I see. Forgot about that. Guess it's less notable in early game when AC on enemies are pretty low 🤷🏻♂️ Guess I'll try Half Elf with +2 to spell pen and choose feat Spell pen at lvl 3. That should help with Flame 😬
@@rujo700 late game kineticist is pretty strong. with earth you can use the deadly earth and wall infusions and everything will just die trying to get to you and tripping and bull rushing back. I am not sure if a kinetic knight gets the blasts though. but i am sure that regular kineticist gets the flame sword.
@@michaelhughes9278 Dont think Knights Gets regular blasts 🤔
@@rujo700 I don't think that it does. I used to give Valerie a few levels in kinetic knight as part of one of her builds. also some thug levels and monk. regular kineticist is really strong late game though. they get deadly earth and wall infusions. you can also put the bull rush and trip maneuvers on those to knock back all the enemies and trip them while damaging them. but a kineticist is better in normal mode than turn based. you lay down a wall out of view of the enemy and then start the fight with deadly earth on top of them with pushing infusion. I forgot how to add trip to your bull rush but it is possible.
does elemental focus feat work on kinetic blade?
No - elemental focus is for Spell category specifically
@@HDHaZmY tyvm!
can i dump str?
yes
@@HDHaZmY thanks, so it doesnt affect the dmg?
@@Mr.Monster1984 No, Kinetic Blade only scales with Kineticist level
thanx dude, i[ll try this build
@@HDHaZmY does constitution increase the dmg like in the blast?
whats a witch hexplant?
He's likely referring to the hex Iceplant
What makes this for Hard difficulty and not unfair?
Unfair has higher numbers that this character might struggle against.
@@HDHaZmY Thanks, I've been binging all your content trying to climb that learning curve. I'm sorry I didn't spend enough time to state specifically what I meant, partially to time but also inexperience with the difficulty curve. What I was trying to ask is at what general stat/number levels would you consider a build to be unfair viable verses not? I know it isn't just a "AC of 90 ,To Hit of 45" answer, but I was curious what you thought where the threshold may be.
@@gamerdad9051 Frankly that's hard to answer in short - overall Unfair is unfair and it requires your characters to be able to either one-shot everything or have complete immunity and super high AC since everything would kill you - I don't really play unfair since I find it a horrible difficulty.
Generally speaking, Unfair requires characters that leave no chance for mistakes and I find those characters inherently boring.
@@HDHaZmY I can understand that, I have this compulsion to get that achievement, but I'm horrible at these games. :) So I'll see how much longer I beat my head against the wall until I give up. Cheers
I built something similar, and found that is hit hard and often, but that I would quickly run out of burn and become useless lol. How do you keep your burn in check?
Using burn is actually not advised as a Kinetic Knight since it will reduce your maximum health and thus your survivability.
My damage numbers are all on 0 burn - any increase just makes it even stronger.
So you do the gather ability every other turn?
@@jza61nick You don't want to gather strength as a Kinetic Knight at all - you will lose out on attacks!
@@HDHaZmY I don't understand how those two things can go together tho? The attacks create burn unless you gather power right? I noticed as I leveled him up that the burn cost of any particular blast decreased as you leveled up, but my strongest blasts always cost something.
@@jza61nick I pretty much used only Burnign Infusion only almost all game until the spell bypass Infusion at end-game. The Base Kinetic Attack is more than enough.
This is a very simple character, not really using infusions or burn at all - you might be overcomplicating it.
these even stats gave me brain damage
I think u dont need Int u have Constitution this ist enough for Kinetik Knight
You can change the stats as you like - my stats were specifically for roleplaying and using Arcane Lore.
So many attacks. How?
Transformation, given to him by an Alchemist with infusion.
You can get Full Base Attack Bonus through Transformation from Alchemist - additionally in Notable Items I highly suggest not skipping on the Final Item ( which in my opinion is the most OP item in the game ) - the hammer.
The Hammer gives +2 Attacks at maximum Base Attack Bonus per Round to any character that uses only 1 Accessory Slot Item - This buff works with Enduring Spells for 24 Hours!
@@MurseSteve85 with transformation will be -4 attacks. Hamer gives your -2 additional attacks?
@@HDHaZmY Ok. Thank you. I don't have a hammer yet.
You doing the most 🤣🤣🤣
ok, I have no clue how you can say this works at all levels... you do zero damage at the start! Daerans mansion you are absolutely useless fighting the simplest of mobs
I am sorry that's your experience - I can guarantee you this works since I livestreamed the whole playthrough to an audience of 70 from start to finish doing every challenge on Hard difficulty.
Great tank,and it will be able to tank everything,uhmm no not on unfair it wont,it will get one shot like a bitch,lol all these op builds are same,none of them are tested even on hard,let alone unfair,so basically uselless,sorry if the truth hurts,its just the way it is.
1 - The video clearly says HARD AND BELOW.
2 - I literally played this character through a hard campaign on Livestream, completing all optional fights easily.
You are full of shit, sorry if it hurts, its just the way it is.
Tbh kk just sucks lol. really not worth a position in team, 500 dpr is literally bottom tier damage mc can achieve at max level/mythic. The only way kk worth playing is utilizing glitches from Lich path.