Pathfinder: WotR - All Companions Ranked

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  • Talking about my rankings for all of the companions in WotR based on a mix of character/quests/story/strength. Minor spoilers.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:40 Trever
    01:32 Lich Companions
    06:50 Queen Galfrey
    07:57 Lann
    08:46 Greybor
    09:25 Sosiel
    10:26 Finnean
    11:29 Daeran
    12:14 Regill
    13:16 Woljiff
    14:27 Ulbrig
    15:35 Arueshalae
    16:41 Seelah
    17:58 Nenio
    19:02 Camellia
    20:31 Wenduag
    21:28 Aivu
    22:37 Ember
    24:37 Wrap Up
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  • @karlklein2263
    @karlklein2263 Před 8 dny +77

    I can't help but love Daeran. Immediately after meeting him in game I could tell he was using humor to hide behind depression and loneliness and that really resonated with me.

    • @benzodiazaepine132
      @benzodiazaepine132 Před 6 dny

      Daeran's charm works on me, but I love the flamboyant Astarion/Zevran/Daeran archetype. Camellia's the one where I'm like: "Maybe pull back a bit."

  • @MaschenkoAN
    @MaschenkoAN Před 8 dny +371

    I haven't watched the video yet, but I'm already sure you're wrong

  • @Wunderkind04
    @Wunderkind04 Před 8 dny +113

    Ember: Don't trust in gods to help you, you'll be a much stronger person if you just believe in yourself instead! :)
    Also Ember: *Receives godly power and is personally watched over by a demigod archon of heaven*

    • @likeAG6likeAG6
      @likeAG6likeAG6 Před 8 dny +4

      Bro she can drop half of the Abyss flatfooted just by spamming Winters Grasp

    • @hectorsanchez7581
      @hectorsanchez7581 Před 8 dny +5

      Ember winter witch= gg

    • @JohnDoe-il4dz
      @JohnDoe-il4dz Před 7 dny +6

      @@likeAG6likeAG6 Winter's Grasp has nothing to do with flat-footed debuff

    • @DJ-yo9oi
      @DJ-yo9oi Před 5 dny +2

      And when she ascends, she makes a complete fool out of herself when she realizes she can't help everyone.

  • @0Gumpy0
    @0Gumpy0 Před 8 dny +68

    As you mentioned, so much of the story has to do with redemption.
    Which makes Camellia even more interesting. Because she says she's possessed by a malevolent spirit that causes her to murder.
    So as with many other companions and the themes of the story overall, you want to help her.
    But she's lying and just loves murder haha

    • @HeartoftheWinter
      @HeartoftheWinter Před 8 dny +19

      I actually love what they did with her. She was the obvious earlygame waifu bait, making players think that they can fix her, then suddenly you get the realization that there is no fixing her, no redemption, she is as much or more of a monster than the demons you fight.

    • @eriksibul9399
      @eriksibul9399 Před 8 dny +6

      @@HeartoftheWinterbut in same time sooooo many players was crying and raging on owlcast and they tried to force them add “redemption” slide in epilogue, and there is even a mod where camellia in weeding dress. I guess those people was raised on Disney movies and just don’t believe that there is just pure psychopaths in the world. Camellia feels really much more alive and realistic then many others just because she is go on the war to have more chances to kill people without consequences. Just as people did and do in real world with wars.

    • @JohnDoe-il4dz
      @JohnDoe-il4dz Před 7 dny +10

      Camelia is covered in red flags from the moment you meet her. I once tried to do her quest & romance her on a demon path and I felt like Padme from the meme. "It's all still just to please the spirits and save the land, right? right?"

    • @TheHotShotProject
      @TheHotShotProject Před 3 dny

      @@eriksibul9399 If you're talking about the mod, I think you're talking about then it never tries to redeem her; it just tries to give her better endings, then one day she just left .

    • @gromalokgeron5100
      @gromalokgeron5100 Před 2 dny

      Ant that makes her perfect to participate in lich ritual after ending her quest and romance.

  • @JohnnyTightIips
    @JohnnyTightIips Před 8 dny +136

    Camellia would get instantly killed by like 80% of the party but the game's like "nahhhhh she's sneaky about it" when she's constantly talking about killing everyone

    • @klasycznietako
      @klasycznietako Před 8 dny +56

      she is helpfull, is she not?

    • @icarue993
      @icarue993 Před 8 dny +3

      The only thing that made me keep her was the "eventual promise of getting a higher power to join the crusade". Sacrifice 1 or 2 for the greater good and so... then her last mission happened and well... I don;t miss her. I hate that Wolif is relatively hard to recruit, since Camelia is the only other one to pick locks.

    • @neodav00001
      @neodav00001 Před 8 dny +5

      As the game keeps describing her reaction to slaughter as "licking her lips nervously." Uh-huh, sure, that's why she's doing it. Girl's about to slide across the dungeon she's so "nervous." I still don't know her late-game very well, because I've only had her survive Act 3 in one playthrough. Anyone Lawful or Good would turn her in, and even my CN Trickster couldn't resist telling her she was safe and then telling the guards to move in.

    • @Seedmember
      @Seedmember Před 8 dny +13

      It's more that the players are " but she's hot and I can fix her"

    • @ragnar3434
      @ragnar3434 Před 8 dny +6

      Yeah her story is weird. They look like they're going somewhere with her and all, but then they give my MC a reason and opportunity to kill her, which was very silly of them.

  • @maxmach4361
    @maxmach4361 Před 8 dny +104

    Ofc Trever had rough life, he put most of his points into STR while neglecting INT and WIS.

    • @Edmeslang4395
      @Edmeslang4395 Před 8 dny +28

      the worst offender is as a former paladin he only has 10 charisma lol

    • @bookbagfox
      @bookbagfox Před 8 dny +14

      @@Edmeslang4395 He wasn't very good at being a paladin, clearly.

    • @maxmach4361
      @maxmach4361 Před 8 dny +3

      @@Edmeslang4395 The Oath of Fist clearly - Oof.

    • @neodav00001
      @neodav00001 Před 8 dny +2

      @@Edmeslang4395 I think he probably lost some charisma thanks to all the shit he'd been through. Really broke both his sense of self and his social acumen. I do love his build narratively. The story says he started as a paladin, lost his Goodness to war and joined the hellknights, got captured and had his devotion to Law shattered, then became an armored pit fighter, and all that's exactly what his build reflects, even if it is a bunch of dogshit wasted levels and class features you can't use in terms of actual gameplay.

  • @eirsilvermoon4911
    @eirsilvermoon4911 Před 8 dny +81

    This is the only game that did incredible job at evil companions, we have everything, chaotic, lawful and neutral evil and they all have very good stories and fit the campaign.

    • @addex1236
      @addex1236 Před 8 dny +3

      Agreed wrath of the rightous and bg 3 both do a great job at giving you companions for an evil playthrough

    • @oicrusader2143
      @oicrusader2143 Před 8 dny +17

      @@addex1236 I disagree, bg3 had only one "evil" companion Minthara.

    • @eirsilvermoon4911
      @eirsilvermoon4911 Před 8 dny +9

      ​@@oicrusader2143 I will second this, BG3 has a very tame depiction of evil. You could make a parallel between Mint and Cam, but hell....she doesn't even come close. All "evil" in BG3 has some kind of redemption hence making it less evil?
      Doesn't mean BG3 has bad characters, just an objective take on it :)

    • @icarue993
      @icarue993 Před 8 dny +2

      Regill: I don't appreciate your methods, but I appreciate the help
      Wenduag: Who hurt you? I will show you what love and affection is and you will like it
      Spoiler: you are crazy. Not even my chaotic evil demon liked you

    • @neodav00001
      @neodav00001 Před 8 dny +7

      @@icarue993 The great thing about Regill was that he was way more ruthless than he even needed to be, but it was generally based in pragmatism, and when it wasn't, he still wasn't stupid and would listen to reason. It's rare to see LE portrayed as "so cruelly Law-obsessed that they slipped into Evil in the process," rather than "an Evil person using law and order for its own ends," but it's a much more realistic portrayal. A cruel totalitarian, but one who genuinely believes what he's doing is the best way to run a society.

  • @SavageDragon999
    @SavageDragon999 Před 8 dny +55

    Ember hellfire ray machine gun build is super funny both lore and gameplay wise.

    • @alsaiduq4363
      @alsaiduq4363 Před 8 dny +5

      She's goes pretty well with Corruptor mythic abilty and Enchament spells too. Stinking cloud is real good early on against enemies.

    • @divolg7981
      @divolg7981 Před 8 dny +11

      Ember in the story: "I strongly believe there's good in everyone (except the gods, fuck those guys), even demons!"
      Ember in the gameplay: "Too late for apologies!" Blasts you with a spell that, if it kills you, literally sends your soul to hell.

  • @tylerpetersen6226
    @tylerpetersen6226 Před 8 dny +44

    Nenio meeting Baphomet is the funniest line in the game.

    • @MortismalGaming
      @MortismalGaming  Před 7 dny +16

      'I will take particular pleasure in killing you.' - Baphomet, moments before disaster.

  • @andrewfernandez684
    @andrewfernandez684 Před 8 dny +50

    We’re so far apart on this haha, obviously just a matter of personal preference. I think Daeran is such a unique and interesting companion, Ember is bottom half, super boring goody-two shoes above it all archetype reminds me of when they put infallible child characters in like any popular show or movie,
    Then we have Regill, the undisputed GOAT for me, what an outrageously cool companion from his lore to his personality to his stellar VA.

    • @Arkhimael
      @Arkhimael Před 8 dny +1

      Agree).

    • @PokerJeezus
      @PokerJeezus Před 8 dny +4

      I too found Ember overly sugary sweet for my tastes
      Regill was my favorite with his pragmatic approach to everything. And give him a 2 hander and he busts em up!

    • @shigerufan1
      @shigerufan1 Před 8 dny +11

      Daeran bounces off of the other companions so well that you end up keeping him in the party just to see what he'll say next

    • @eriksibul9399
      @eriksibul9399 Před 8 dny +1

      I disagree kinda, for me Seelah or whatever feels much more vanilla and sweet. Ember is interesting at least because her philosophy n random insights, sometimes she gave me Malkavian vibes randomly saying wise things and reading people. Also I like how Venduag kinda scare of her and always saying that she is hiding something and she is not what she seems, and when camellia says “meh she just a dump girl” venduag said “I can feel she hide something, and she doing it better then u maniac girl” to camellia.

    • @Pixie1001.
      @Pixie1001. Před 8 dny +1

      I was gonna say, I can't believe he did my Daeran dirty like that. I love the idea of a chaotic evil character who doesn't want to consort with demons or murder babies. He's just like, kind of a dick. And all his dialogue is soooo good :')

  • @dngrhd
    @dngrhd Před 8 dny +32

    Interesting that you consider Arue to be the Anime character instead of Ember.
    And yeah, her getting into horny jail was hillarious.

  • @bookbagfox
    @bookbagfox Před 8 dny +60

    I used to dislike Lann a lot more until recently because he was extremely pushy with his romance for female characters. If you were even vaguely polite to him he'd keep trying to ask you out. Fortunately they reduced that in a patch.
    Regill was probably my favourite character overall even though he clearly didn't like my character that much since she was an Azata. I'm really excited to see him being a lot happier in my Aeon playthrough next. He looks like a miniature Sauron, is extremely grumpy, gives pretty good advice (his Military options especially are generally good) and does pretty solid damage with his weird hooked hammer.

    • @Dan-uf2vh
      @Dan-uf2vh Před 8 dny +9

      Lann is realistic: a teenager whose maximum lifespan is 30 years if not extended in the endings. He's honorable but very simple minded and I was disappointed in the romance.
      Regill is very widely liked as a solid character, even as he doesn't change a bit.

    • @Kaliblister
      @Kaliblister Před 7 dny +2

      he's the worst character imo he's writing is awfull... in the prologue he play the "try to save everybody go as fast as your slower companion bla bla bla" and then when you meet regil... he's agreeing with him? wtf? prologue lann and main game lann isn't the same character...

    • @DJ-yo9oi
      @DJ-yo9oi Před 5 dny +2

      @@Kaliblister Agreed. His writing (and VA) is poor. He's definitely Chaotic Good in the prologue and early game, and it's like they realized halfway through development that he has to be Lawful Neutral because of his class. His class itself also makes no sense. He should have been a Hunter.

    • @tric5122
      @tric5122 Před 5 dny

      This is why I don't like Sos, male character, trying to just be a bro and help him out, pushy AF in the romance line, and if you are a female character that tries to romance him, you find out he's taken early, act 2 or 3, so the entire time he is romancing you he is with someone. Unfaithfulness as a cleric is a poor character flaw.

    • @chriswhinery925
      @chriswhinery925 Před 3 dny

      @@Dan-uf2vh Regill doesn't change and what I hate is that I've seen some people criticize him for it. But overall I'm glad so many people like him. Not every character has to have an arc of change to be good. Some characters are iconic and don't change and the fun is in watching who they already are react to different situations. James Bond and Sherlock Holmes don't need character arcs, they just are who they are and we enjoy watching/reading about them. It's perfectly fine for Regill to be the same person from the beginning to the end of the game and just enjoy how that person responds to things.

  • @godshenron9306
    @godshenron9306 Před 8 dny +37

    Insanely terrible list. Thats why i love you

  • @kayne8222
    @kayne8222 Před 8 dny +11

    Oh wow, I requested a companions ranked video and you didn't disappoint Mort! My man!

  • @happyninja42
    @happyninja42 Před 8 dny +12

    Yeah the slave market scene as Azata is a scene that genuinely chokes me up whenever I see it. I'm a sucker for stories about slave liberations and similar plot points, so it was INCREDIBLY satisfying in that scene, for all the demons to be like "mmmuahahaha! You're in OUR house puny mortal, there is nothing you can do!!" And your Azata champion is like "....oh really?" 😈 *unleashes the power of chaotic liberation on the slave market* And just the sound of the triumphant signature song for the Azata to play with the more heroic chorus to it, while the energy washes over the market, freeing the slaves, killing demons, and ensnaring the others, was just SO satisfying. 🤣 I never finished the game because I just hated that Demon city level so much, but that part, that part was awesome.

    • @user-be9ih8yo6p
      @user-be9ih8yo6p Před dnem

      И это полный бред. Простите, я понимаю, у нас тут паверфантазия, НО это не просто нейтральный кусок Бездны - это ВЛАДЕНИЯ ЛОРДА БЕЗДНЫ. Лорды Бездны имеют абсолютный контроль на своем плане. Никакая мифическая сила не позволит тебе ничего там поменять, если этого не захочет Ноктикула. Красиво, но глупо. А самое главное - ничего не решает. Красиво и бессмысленно. В Бездне миллионы таких рынков, закрытие одного, усилит другой. Как не крути. Лишь Ангел вносит реальный impact, выжигая до тла целый план Дескари.

  • @Argo.nautica
    @Argo.nautica Před 8 dny +6

    I've yet to take Wenduag, even for an evil character it's insane to take her with you given her introduction if you're roleplaying it. One day I'll do a demon run or something.

  • @foolwise4703
    @foolwise4703 Před 5 dny +2

    I gotta say Lann is kind of my favourite. Yes he is a simple mind, but just kind of refreshing at that 😊

  • @Himewolf398
    @Himewolf398 Před 7 dny +2

    I never noticed the game trying to convince you not to kill Camellia but yeah, overlooking her act 5 quest was a huge stretch that even a MC on the gold dragon path about redemption would've had enough.

  • @jarrenraves
    @jarrenraves Před 8 dny +10

    Regill might just be my favourite, which I never expected going into my first playthrough. He's so often the most reasonable voice in the room and one of the few characters that just 100% feel like he's exactly where he's supposed to be and actually deserves to be there. I also appreciate that despite being rigid and lawful, he's actually one of the most 'loyal' characters-because he cares about your results and not how you get them, making him very flexible in terms of what playthrough your doing. Case in point, he even stuck around for the entirety of my trickster playthrough and his ending slide singlehandedly made that my favourite ending by far!
    Camellia is probably my second favourite. I love how uniquely unhinged she is but I think there's not a single playthrough where her narrative actually fully works. She obviously doesnt fit in lawful/good, but she also doesnt fit into chaotic/evil either because she just keeps hiding and excuse crimes that most demons and evil trickster simply wouldnt think twice of.
    as for the other side of my tier list. I dislike Seelah and HAAAATTE Lann. He's such a hypocrite. A naive idealist who constantly insults others for being idealistic

    • @DJ-yo9oi
      @DJ-yo9oi Před 5 dny +1

      Regill is one of my favorites, as well. I appreciate his pragmatism, even if I don't always agree with him. Another point in his favor is that he knows who he is and doesn't need me to help him soul search. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind most of the companion quests, but it's refreshing that a companion isn't relying on me in that way.

  • @Taranchule
    @Taranchule Před 8 dny +10

    I confess I'm a bit boring when it comes to companions in RPGs. I like playing good guys, and I like surrounding my PC with other good (or at the very least neutral) folk who more-or-less get along.

    • @tric5122
      @tric5122 Před 5 dny +4

      I would like this cast to choose from and the choices to play in just about any other game, but in this one, where it is literally good vs chaos vs evil, it's hard to justify being the savior of the world as a lich, demon, swarm. Devil maybe a sliver as they are at war with the demons also, but even that is hard sell, as the primary backers of your war are all good gods or backed by those gods.

    • @jjhh320
      @jjhh320 Před 3 dny +3

      Same. Irl being a decent person consists of opening doors for people and letting someone merge in front of you. This game is a place where being a decent person consists of charging into a group of 12 foot tall demons and putting the fear of God into them. If I did an evil playthrough......I'd only be the millionth tryhard to think I was cool doing it.

  • @tihonannenkov4114
    @tihonannenkov4114 Před 8 dny +4

    This video clearly shows that its a taste thing with the companions: I personally have Lann and Greybor as two of my main companions, while Camellia, Seelah and Wenduag are my least favorite ones. I used to dislike Daeran but grew to really appreciate him. I dont really like Nenio as a companion but I always find myself in the need of a true wizard.

    • @tric5122
      @tric5122 Před 5 dny +1

      Same. Greybor with any of the good alignment characters is hilarious, regill is the same with any chaos or evil characters. Never liked Camellia or Wenduag, one is a straight murder hobo protected by her father who is a PoS in his own right, and not sure even evil characters are okay with cannibalism, that is a taboo that is pretty much outright hated by all.
      Lann grew on me, listening to him interact with others is tedious at times, but his insight in counsel tends to be spot on, like regill.
      No issues with Seelah, other then she never comes off as iconic, she is deeply flawed makes just about every mistake one can as a Paladin, even if done for good intentions. I was floored when she is important to the PF lore, nothing about the build or jer actions hinted at that

  • @JackVo
    @JackVo Před 7 dny +2

    Lann is deeply troubled, he has to live life with honor and dream. Dream is the only thing he can have. That is why he want to end it in Act3. I respect that he can fight for good without any hope.

  • @serillen1904
    @serillen1904 Před 4 dny +3

    Wenduag is one of those characters I feel like theres no real in game justification for ever siding with. Even if youre evil shes shown to be extremely fickle and willing to betray anyone at the drop of a hat if she feels she can get an advantage for doing so. I kill her and move on every time because it feels like the smarter option even if Lann isnt a good fit for an evil party outside of being naïve cannon fodder.

  • @RyguyRB
    @RyguyRB Před 7 dny

    I haven't gotten super deep into my runs before I've restarted playthroughs a couple times, but on a run I think will stick.
    Wasn't sure if I should watch the video due to spoilers.
    Thanks for making it clear when they were coming so I could skip, and I 100% found and am really excited for the mythic path I want to go this time thanks to this vid.

  • @redpandaluver8561
    @redpandaluver8561 Před 3 dny

    Oh woah. I didn't even realise until reading the comments that this was only posted 5 days ago! I fully thought this was an old video. With that in mind: I absolutely love Daeran, and his romance is just lovely to play through. I'm a big fan of the quirky remarks, and breaking down his walls. Also, you get to push him into a waterfall, and that's amazing.

  • @twistedturns65
    @twistedturns65 Před 6 dny +2

    Man, everyone hates Lann, I love his sarcasm, and the dude is easily slaughtering the most enemies of my group.

  • @maxpower8549
    @maxpower8549 Před 8 dny +44

    why ember is my fav companion: she's ember and she is a wholesome cute little baby, don't hurt her... also she is my weapon of mass destruction

    • @kalicula7718
      @kalicula7718 Před 8 dny +6

      Camellia and Ember are the two opposite extremes of severe mental issues.

    • @tric5122
      @tric5122 Před 5 dny

      ​@@kalicula7718Cam is an absolute freak to boot. Nothing says psycho, even to other psychos then lets pound after we kill someone.

  • @MajorrGamiingMann
    @MajorrGamiingMann Před 8 dny +18

    Arue being so low is a crime, she is such a well-written character and such a genuinely good person/being

  • @timothydavis4274
    @timothydavis4274 Před 3 dny

    Haha, Mortismal showing what alignment of character he enjoys playing here. Thanks for the refresh on me needing to replay Pathfinder.

  • @calebcarpenter9490
    @calebcarpenter9490 Před 8 dny

    I know variety is required but man, it's so refreshing to have new WOTR content from you! Can see how you appreciate it and we like seeing you excited dude!

  • @Jiggyboof
    @Jiggyboof Před 7 dny

    Love the videos! Currently in act 4 for the first time (I always stopped in act 3 lmao). Failed to get trevor, but good to know I didn't miss much

  • @boylesmono5764
    @boylesmono5764 Před 8 dny +20

    It's easy to hate Daeran, but his narrative is styled just like Camellia did.
    The game never tells you outright, but the hints are on every pebbles on the step.
    On their true nature, that is.

    • @neodav00001
      @neodav00001 Před 8 dny +6

      The two of them really are great counterpoints to one another, the traumatized guy who actively tries to bury his good side under a hedonistic mask and the psychotic monster who poorly fakes her own goodness. I just wish Daeran had a better VA, he really just sounds bored and like his mic was cheaper than the others. Maybe he's better in Dance of Masks, not sure.

    • @JohnDoe-il4dz
      @JohnDoe-il4dz Před 7 dny +1

      Come on.
      Camelia is covered in red flags from the moment you meet her. You can confidently tell what she is after like 20 minutes into the game based on her amulet, battle cries and not-at-all-obvious remarks.

    • @chriswhinery925
      @chriswhinery925 Před 3 dny

      @@JohnDoe-il4dz Them trying to hide her alignment with her amulet is dumb. The second I saw that item I said to myself "Oh, she's evil". There's literally no other reason to hide it.

  • @piotrk5607
    @piotrk5607 Před 8 dny +1

    I actually cried with tears of like emotions on Embers quest line she is propably one of my favourite game characters of all times, her tears cracking up in half baphomets altar is one of the most heartwarming moments and at a same time funniest moments I ever experienced im my gaming life

  • @heretic192
    @heretic192 Před 3 dny

    I like Kestoglyr, the fact that he is a lvl3 fighter when he joins makes him super flexible.

  • @nikolaytrofimov4175
    @nikolaytrofimov4175 Před 8 dny +2

    I completely agree with your opinion on Lann. Me and my friend were discussing companions of WotR a while ago, he mentioned Lann being one of his favorites and I just couldn't agree. The guy is so naive and soft, he has almost nothing to show. Almost no personal growth, a bit of self-irony, and that's it. The only thing about Lann that I like - companions mocking him in dialogues, just like a semi-friendly banter between Morrigan and Alistair in DAO. The thing that sucks - I equally dont like Wenduag's personality.
    I think my favourite ones are Regill and Arueshalae. One is "tough-as-nails' guy, second one - redeemed succubus, which is pretty unique.
    Speaking of Camellia... that's defo a love-hate relationship. This is the first character in a while, that made me feel physically disgusted. I love her backstory, it's one of the most unique companion backgrounds in party RPGs.

  • @braziliantvhd2768
    @braziliantvhd2768 Před 8 dny +1

    Great list, would be interested to see the companions ranked by build power (without re-leveling)

    • @DJ-yo9oi
      @DJ-yo9oi Před 5 dny

      Not ordered within tiers:
      S-Tier: Seelah, Lann, Camellia, Sosiel, Nenio (the GOAT party)
      A-Tier: Daeran, Ember, Wenduag, Kestoglyr, Galfrey,
      B-Tier: Arueshalae, Regill, Greybor, Lich companions besides Staunton and Kestoglyr
      C-Tier: Staunton
      D-Tier: Trever

  • @simoncodrington
    @simoncodrington Před 8 dny +2

    Oo more Pathfinder stuff! More plz

  • @thegreatpineapple4425
    @thegreatpineapple4425 Před 7 dny +1

    Daeran grew on me. He reminds me of Anders from Dragon Age 2, someone who I would find grating but my MC won't. It's easy to like a character when you, the player, like them to begin with. But characters like Daeran bring out the roleplayer in me more.

    • @jjhh320
      @jjhh320 Před 3 dny

      Exactly. Couldn't stand him at first, but by the end of the game I was roleplaying that he and my character were best friends. He's incredibly witty too, so I appreciate the writing that went into him.

  • @cw6132
    @cw6132 Před 8 dny

    I pretty much agree with your list lol wouldn't change it. Great content!

  • @zsolt_te
    @zsolt_te Před 8 dny

    Hi guys, what versions/dlc do you recommend to get the most out with the least money? Thanks

    • @ZedoGabrilla
      @ZedoGabrilla Před 8 dny

      There is a recent video on Mort's channel discussing this topic.

  • @thegenxgamerguy6562
    @thegenxgamerguy6562 Před 8 dny +1

    I like Arueshalaes build, she is a great buffbot for a party with lots of natural weapon DDs as well.
    My top 5 favorites:
    5. Sosiel
    4. Woljif
    3. Ulbrig
    2. Aivu
    1. Arueshalae

  • @pappy374
    @pappy374 Před 8 dny +2

    Nenio is by far and away my favourite. Then again, Harrim was my favourite in Kingmaker, so there may be something wrong with me.

  • @RF-INF
    @RF-INF Před 8 dny +7

    Regill too low, you must be a demon.. you fiend!

  • @Zero_Zone.
    @Zero_Zone. Před 6 dny

    Great list. I agree with most of your choices and I can understand the reasoning for the ones that we don't match up.

  • @Tosnoob
    @Tosnoob Před 8 dny +3

    Wild, Aivu and Ember are some of the worst for me while Lann is high up. Tastes really are different. =D

  • @ThatOneJoker
    @ThatOneJoker Před 8 dny

    ive tried looking around and I can't remember if you said but are you doing a lets play for your final playthrough or streaming it or anything?

  • @OkiDeimos
    @OkiDeimos Před 8 dny +1

    out of the games Pathfinder 2, Pillars of Eternity 2, and Rouge Trader what would you suggest to pick up on the Steam Summer Sale? Open to other suggestions as well.

    • @max-wf3cz
      @max-wf3cz Před 8 dny +1

      pillars of eternity 2 is a direct sequel to the first one and I can't imagine it makes any sense as a standalone story.

    • @Jereb343
      @Jereb343 Před 8 dny

      I think wrath of the righteous would be the best choice. Rogue trader is still getting patches and dlc. Pillars 2 isnt very well written and it's turn based mode was added later, so the game isn't fully designed for it.
      Wrath is also, like, the best CRPG ever

  • @braziliantvhd2768
    @braziliantvhd2768 Před 8 dny +2

    Woljif was a total turnoff when he cowardly ran away from my party, what made it worst is he was my best dps guy I made into a Baked Trickster. Never used him again after that.

    • @PlanetaryPluto
      @PlanetaryPluto Před 8 dny

      I've never felt more turned off or more betrayed in my life. Never forgave him either because he never tried to redeem himself and show he wasn't completely a yellow bellied Coward

    • @Frey12
      @Frey12 Před 6 dny +1

      That is why he ran, he does so much base damage him running away is a difficulty spike. I also feel rp wise it makes sense. He is a thief who didn't sign up for war. Him getting scared is fair.

    • @jjhh320
      @jjhh320 Před 3 dny +1

      ​@@Frey12 RP-wise I always treated him like he was part of the supply caravan like Horgus...just a black market/informant guy. Not a crusader. So he wasn't a deserter in my eyes. A coward, yeah, but I didn't treat him like a knight or expect honor from him at all during the story.

  • @RM_3D
    @RM_3D Před 8 dny +2

    I gave Selaah one lvl dip into Sable Company Marine to give her a hippogriff mount and its bad ass charging into the front line of a giant hippogriff. Currently she is lvl 11 paladin lvl 1 Sable Marine and lvl 1 Cavalier. I will get her to lvl 8 Cavalier order of the sword to get her to add pet str to charge. and since the flying attack counts as a charge it should work quite nicely

  • @jpalmer9896
    @jpalmer9896 Před 7 dny

    What class do you suggest starting as in this game? One that makes sense thematically.

  • @markpowell548
    @markpowell548 Před 8 dny +2

    Lann is pretty much my deeps and must have for me...but I'm playing them as rolled rather than multiclassing

  • @kitsuneking6969
    @kitsuneking6969 Před 7 dny

    This came at a perfect time for me, i picked the game up a couple of days ago and have been stressing over my party. I WANT EVERYONE IN MY TEAM

  • @donleyp
    @donleyp Před 8 dny +1

    I might swap out the top two because I absolutely love Aivu but I definitely agree with most of this list. My first playthrough was Chaotic Good so I went with the Azata mythic path and romanced Arueshalae and all that jazz. It was definitely fun.

  • @tahjshaunbrooks6722
    @tahjshaunbrooks6722 Před 22 hodinami

    Nenio being high rankes for you to be is wild. She called my PC "boy" once and I wanted to send her to Pharasma herself. I refuse to let her survive past Act 3😂😂😂

  • @marrowj
    @marrowj Před 8 dny

    Have to pas on this one as i have yet to play the game, waited untill all dlc was released, so as soon as i am done with elden ring + dlc (witch i allso waited untill it was relesed) i will dive in to this one, allready know ill love it partially from putting in 400+ hours in kingmaker, and your great videos, thanks morti

  • @williamruiz4571
    @williamruiz4571 Před 7 dny

    If only Wenduag didn't trick several children into turning into cannibals, she would indeed be a bit higher on my list. Everyone could definitely agree that Ember just brings light into the demon infested world.

  • @gustavogrosch
    @gustavogrosch Před 7 dny

    Ember and her "easy" way to do good has to be number 1. She is the only character that break the wall and can talk to your soul.

  • @Ravnesss
    @Ravnesss Před 8 dny +3

    Wenduag best girl.

  • @chocopuddingcup83
    @chocopuddingcup83 Před 8 dny +1

    Wow, my favorites are almost flipped as far as the main companions go. I enjoy Sosiel (my adorable cupcake that needs to be protected at all costs), Lann, Seelah, and Daeran while Nenio, Aru, and Camellia are just....meh. Nenio has some amusing moments, and I enjoy Woljif apart from the small section where he leaves you without a proper rogue (other than Camellia, who is just a lock-picker character when I can't have Woljif, and then I kill her the first cue I get of who she is).

  • @Receipt
    @Receipt Před 8 dny

    Thinking of moving on to this game after BG3. Thanks amigo.

  • @Schlumpsha
    @Schlumpsha Před 8 dny +10

    Poor Rekarth, Sendri and Penta were shown the cold shoulder. Poor sods...

  • @saitamagotchi44
    @saitamagotchi44 Před 7 dny

    Aivu the cookie monster and horny jail Arue make the Azata path a load of fun. Looking forward to a lawful evil Regil and Wendy playthrough though.

  • @0Cico0
    @0Cico0 Před 8 dny +2

    I played it only once, Lann and Aru were the ones who put everything down, the rest was just for the number. I didn't use Nenio as a wizard myself, Phantasm Killer was always ineffective/resisted. Well, i'm not a pro :-)
    I liked Ember, Aru and Aivu the most, maybe even Seelah. The rest were lucky that i played as a good guy :-)

    • @bookbagfox
      @bookbagfox Před 8 dny

      Making phantasmal killer work consistently requires stacking a lot of bonuses onto it specifically, onto illusion in general and onto making your spell DCs higher. Once you get to that point it can one-shot some bosses if you're lucky.

  • @JeysieC
    @JeysieC Před 7 dny

    Lann and Wenduag are two possible sides of the way people react to traumatic childhoods (speaking as someone with a traumatic childhood and who knew others with said). Lann has realistic flaws of depression and low self-esteem, but in the end is a decent person who reacts to his trauma primarily by wanting to protect innocent people, while Wenduag is the type of traumatized person who reacts with the whole "If I'm the one oppressing other people then nobody can ever hurt me again" mentality. I ended up vastly preferring Lann to Wenduag as a result, especially since a lot of Wenduag's behaviors and attitudes are so utterly horrible.
    I also will stump for Sosiel again, in that he's an absolute expert at diplomacy, passive-aggressive snark, and Politeness Judo (him running circles around Konomi in particular was a joy to watch). He also has an interesting arc about trying to overcome his anger issues. It's just that this character archetype is not one typically applied to male characters versus female characters, so it reads less interestingly than if he was a female character.
    Finally, credit to Daeran for being biggest surprise for me. When we first read the character's description in the KS updates I was prepared to dislike him, but he's written as a genuinely hilarious and complex character. Him being an actually self-aware troll who's upfront about being a jerkass goes a long way I think.

  • @Thalaranthey
    @Thalaranthey Před 3 dny

    Daeran, regil, camilla top 3 for me. Superb depiction of evil with many faces and levels. Pretty much only this game has it.
    Daeran is just exquisitely interactive character and i love how he put noctila and iomede in their place when they barked at mc.
    Regil os extremely cool with his unwavering devotion and dedication
    Thanks to him no-bullshit gnome is the only kind of gnome i tolerate.
    Lastly Camille... Her romance path is so twisted that i loved it, i was baffled at everything shes done and was at the edge of my seat each time thinking "nah, they wouldnt go THAT FAR... would they?". My wife especially, as crime podcast fanatic was enthralled by this sort of first person seat at psychopatic serial killer couple(she doesnt play, but she likes to sit in my lap of kids are asleep and experience games with me)

  • @robcampion9917
    @robcampion9917 Před 2 dny

    My usual party consists of Seelah, Woljiff, Arueshalae, Ember and Nenio with me playing another melee class, usually Paladin or Cavalier.

  • @MaschenkoAN
    @MaschenkoAN Před 8 dny +1

    What about Devil Galfrey?

  • @johnnythedark3090
    @johnnythedark3090 Před 8 dny

    Isn't devil galfrey different? I didn't got that far with my new character.

  • @usernamepassword123
    @usernamepassword123 Před 8 dny

    mort what is the best animal companion to use with a hunter?

    • @TheFlibidy
      @TheFlibidy Před 8 dny

      Haven't played in a while, but my guess would be dog/wolf for trip attack

    • @MortismalGaming
      @MortismalGaming  Před 7 dny

      The only wrong option at this point is centipede, everything else has the potential to be pretty good, but anything with a trip attack will be the most generally useful for the party

  • @adamkadir3803
    @adamkadir3803 Před 8 dny +1

    Wow our companion ranks are different 😂 and I think I killed 3-4 of the companions in the unfolding of the story.
    Camellia had to go when I caught her red handed....Aeon Hellknight. My hands were tied 🤷
    Greybor wanted to extort me for money. Like. No.
    Woljiff stole and deserted.
    Wenduag was a traitor.

    • @Frey12
      @Frey12 Před 6 dny

      You killed woljif?!? He didn't steal he got scared and ran. 😭

  • @khal7702
    @khal7702 Před 8 dny +9

    Got both Pathfinder:Kingmaker n Pathfinder: WotR on sale, don't have dlc for either, but definitely getting 2 season for WotR once all are on sale. Any dlc worth for Kingmaker?

    • @jepeman
      @jepeman Před 8 dny +1

      Wildcards is great, new companion(s), quests and kineticist class.
      All the DLCs are ridiculously cheap currently though.

    • @khal7702
      @khal7702 Před 8 dny +2

      for WotR without Dance of Masks, finishing both games will take from 3 months to a year depending on schedule so there will be another sale where I can get everything :) more concerned about Kingmaker ​@jepeman

    • @kharacon
      @kharacon Před 8 dny +3

      Kingmaker was worth a replay with mods adding oracle etc to that game. While you miss the mythic craziness the game is still quite good and establishing a kingdom feels more grounded then the ascension themes.

    • @jepeman
      @jepeman Před 8 dny

      @@khal7702 Wildcards is Kingmaker DLC and all the Kingmaker DLCs are really cheap currently.

    • @khal7702
      @khal7702 Před 7 dny

      Read about it n will just get Wildcards for Kingmaker, thanks for help!​@jepeman

  • @renynzea
    @renynzea Před 8 dny

    I think Nenio, Ulbrig, and Regill are my top 3. I do, however, use a respec mod so as not to be locked into character builds. (I find it amusing to turn Ulbrig into a Fey Shifter and pretend he got cursed by the fae to be stuck in the form of the thing that killed him, for example.)

  • @Seedmember
    @Seedmember Před 8 dny +5

    The best companion in my opinion is Daeran. To me, he's what a normal dude from our world would become if suddenly he was thrown in a world where your bed might try to eat you or that the cute, playful cat that purs when you pet it, is actually a demon lord that wants to turn you into a living table. I'd be "f this world and everyone in it. let's get hammered and party all day long" too.
    Generally though, most of the companions seem a bit exaggerated and too anime-like in a bad and cliched way.
    Camellia and Arue are basically the same "I can fix her" trope with the difference being that Camellia has the "haha, some humans are worse than demons" "twist".
    Lann and Regill have the same "I must perform my duty before I die" story
    Sosiel and Seelah are in the "I doubt my own self and beliefs" category
    Ember is the cliche "cinnamon bun" character that you just don't want to make sad, so you go along with every ridiculous thing she does, which somehow ends up rewritting the rules of the universe. At least, seeing her change the alignment of literal hell creatures with a speech, is a bit funny in its absurdness.
    There's also Trevor, but I don't really care about him to read his story.

  • @Erkaneil
    @Erkaneil Před 8 dny

    Ember is great!
    Even my evil Zon Kuthon’s Warpriest was impressed by her force of Will and determination despite all physical and social abuse she experienced.
    Plus Queen Wenduag is number waifu as it should be! Awesome list Mort!

  • @connorwalsh5464
    @connorwalsh5464 Před 2 dny

    Criminal list, I love Lann

  • @crackedjabber
    @crackedjabber Před 7 dny

    I love Daeran. Especially when you have Ember and Lann. Daeran picks on Lann, but he's very protective of Ember, and it makes for an amazing dynamic. Also, I think he's pretty funny.

  • @spahghettiboi4150
    @spahghettiboi4150 Před 8 dny +1

    Ember with hellfire ray go brrrrrr

  • @spahghettiboi4150
    @spahghettiboi4150 Před 8 dny +1

    Arueshalae, Seelah and Nenio are my personal favorites

  • @Ogresh
    @Ogresh Před 8 dny

    Kestoglyr have an unique interaction if you bring him to the Ineluctable Prison (act 5), the mini quest here leads to a unique scimitar as a reward. The weapon is honestly pretty good and with the additional interactivity and dialog he should at least rank equally to Ciar in my opinion, if not even higher considering you can customize his build a lot more than Ciar. :)

  • @Silioth
    @Silioth Před 8 dny

    Yeah i share your opinion on Lann. In the beginning i liked him, but the more i interacted with him the more it was clear he was this games carth.

  • @adrianleong8537
    @adrianleong8537 Před 8 dny

    During my first playthrough I played an Angel/Paladin... and then Camillia happened... damn I struggled but decided on the role playing route and did what a lawful good paladin was meant to do... That character really surprised me lol.

  • @fishum42
    @fishum42 Před 8 dny +1

    I virtually never used Ember during my playthrough, forgot all about her until act 4!

    • @mr.fantasthicc4423
      @mr.fantasthicc4423 Před 8 dny +7

      You missed one of the most powerful if not the most powerful companion

    • @PurpleIsALetter
      @PurpleIsALetter Před 8 dny +3

      ​​@@mr.fantasthicc4423they also missed one of if not the most annoying companions

  • @Botruc
    @Botruc Před 8 dny +1

    My favorite companions were Lann, Seelah, Nenio, Sosiel and Daeran. Sometimes, I would switch Daeran for Amber when I needed some firepower. Overall, most companions were really cool and well written. The only one I thought was bad is Camellia. I thought her drama was too on the nose and stupid. I try usually to keep all companions on my first playthrough to see all the content available, however, when finally given the chance, I didn't hesitate to kill her. I really wasn't interested in her.

  • @click9914
    @click9914 Před 8 dny

    7:50 Maybe the reason the Lich characters aren't as fleshed out as the other is because they are undead.

  • @josephercanbrack8393
    @josephercanbrack8393 Před 7 dny +1

    Man we're quite different in our rankings, though granted I've just reached Act 5.
    Regill is really high for me. Whenever there's a council decision, he usually makes really good arguments. Daeran is really funny, but I'm not super into him. Camillia is probably the most annoying of the whole cast, with Ember not far behind, and Nenio on thin ice. I do agree though that Lann is really bland, but his reunion with his mom was surprisingly the only companion quest that's moved me so far.

  • @user-il3uo6hb9q
    @user-il3uo6hb9q Před 7 dny +1

    Ember #1, thus this video is correct.

  • @ScytheFly
    @ScytheFly Před 8 dny

    They really did great job on Regil and Seelah, both are lawful by rule but they also somewhat chaos. Seelah is fun to interect since you get somewhat borderline chaos but still lawful enough reaction from her.
    While Regil, this guy just do straight very lawful stuff but if you think about it, somehow it feel like chaos things might because he is a gnome 😂

  • @nikitachaykin6774
    @nikitachaykin6774 Před 8 dny

    Ember is one of the best characters in fantasy universes. Being atheist could be easier when you definitely know what kind of mess gods are. But i think Daerean and Lann are underappreciated. they have really witty and clear comments on events happening around they are just not fans of status quo. And as for Cameliam i wish i could kill her earlier in game (after 2nd or 3rd disassembled body that she just happen to be found next).

  • @Aginor
    @Aginor Před 8 dny

    The only major mimsalignment with my personal preference is Sosiel, he can be amazing domain master, even just guarded hearth for tough battles is amazing

    • @chocopuddingcup83
      @chocopuddingcup83 Před 8 dny

      I always use the ToyBox mod to respec Sosiel into a crusader, but keeping his glaive weapon and deity. He makes a great frontline healer and dps.

  • @robert.r.g
    @robert.r.g Před 8 dny

    Maybe rank bosses/enemies too? Thematically some of them are really cool if you include the mythic path related ones like Mephistopheles

  • @dogebestest7187
    @dogebestest7187 Před 7 dny

    Ember gang hell yeah. My favorite companion too.

  • @amoszadoff9863
    @amoszadoff9863 Před 5 dny +1

    Daeren is one of the rastest characters to build up karma with

  • @user-nr1py1xe9o
    @user-nr1py1xe9o Před 8 dny

    Did you read the Pathfinder novels?

  • @coconutologist
    @coconutologist Před 8 dny

    Thanks for the video. So... which one helps you wander in wisdom? Onward to 400k. All glory to the algorithm.

  • @orarinnsnorrason4614
    @orarinnsnorrason4614 Před 5 dny

    For me Aru is #1. Great character, story arc/quest and fantastic romance.

  • @notCalle
    @notCalle Před 8 dny

    I love Nenio to bits, even if she ended my first run, because I went blind into her boss dungeon, and never made it out, I was just... too... sick... of it all. Eventually pushed through the slog on another run, ugh, never again. Didn't even get the achievement as reward, because I botched the boss dialogue, and was too fatigued to notice. Still, almost permanent party member, together with Arue, Seelah, Ember, Wendu, Camellia... hmm, wait that's one too many. 😵

  • @jepeman
    @jepeman Před 8 dny

    I like how Aivu was ranked and so high even.

  • @snorkman2
    @snorkman2 Před 8 dny

    Now for the Super Mega Owlcat companion list. PFKM, WOTR and WHRT.

  • @SSangsen
    @SSangsen Před 6 dny

    My top 3 would be Regill, Camellia and Daeran. Honorable mention to Nenio.

  • @Daerric
    @Daerric Před 7 dny

    You're pumping these vids out crazy now lol. Random question not really about this video; Does the game have a way to play shifter non-neutral? Oopsie, I leveled up and I'm too chaotic good now to pick shifter for level 7 ig lmao.

    • @Daerric
      @Daerric Před 7 dny

      Hilor for main character respecs alignment too ig lol. Awesome. So Ignore my question; But thanks for the content :) I don't agree with some of your personal opinions of some characters (Lan mostly lmao) buuuut still a great vid