Pathfinder: WotR - Mythic Paths Ranked

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  • čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
  • Taking a look back at ranking all the mythic paths for the game, following the conclusion of all it's DLC updates.
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    00:00 Intro
    01:46 Swarm
    03:49 Trickster
    05:08 Legend
    06:41 Devil
    08:37 Aeon
    11:13 Gold Dragon
    14:20 Lich
    16:26 Angel
    17:26 Demon
    18:52 Azata
    21:07 Wrap Up
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Komentáře • 330

  • @HeWhoShams
    @HeWhoShams Před 20 dny +408

    I hope I can love anything as much as Mortismal loves Pathfinder: WOTR

  • @Zerahi
    @Zerahi Před 19 dny +260

    The lich is about the friends we "Made" along the way.

    • @toffeecrisp2146
      @toffeecrisp2146 Před 19 dny +6

      Sure, we had to kill them first, but how else can you "make friends" 😂

    • @naseweis6105
      @naseweis6105 Před 19 dny +2

      nice one 😁
      i just wanted more

    • @enoughothis
      @enoughothis Před 17 dny

      Necromancy is just recycling. Black is the new green

  • @davincisama
    @davincisama Před 20 dny +129

    Cosmic Judge Dredd is the most bad ass description ever. Sign me up.

    • @Herr_Affe
      @Herr_Affe Před 19 dny +13

      Bah. Aeon is more of janitor with OCD.

    • @toffeecrisp2146
      @toffeecrisp2146 Před 19 dny +7

      It doesn't feel like that most of the time. It largely feels like angry school teacher gets ignored by pupils.

    • @GreenKnight2001
      @GreenKnight2001 Před 18 dny

      That would have been awesome if it was the case 😅😅

  • @42GELO42
    @42GELO42 Před 19 dny +175

    The true Aeon ending has the most badass and uncompromising dialog option in any crpg I have ever played: [Cease to exist]

    • @toffeecrisp2146
      @toffeecrisp2146 Před 19 dny +14

      It's just a pity, that half of the game has our Aeon character looking on impotently when they witness lawlessness and call it out. Beyond the handful of scripted moments, I felt like I was playing, disapproving school teacher simulator.

    • @acrab6527
      @acrab6527 Před 19 dny +6

      @@toffeecrisp2146 making the injustice never happen to begin with is better than correcting it afterwards.

    • @toffeecrisp2146
      @toffeecrisp2146 Před 19 dny +1

      @acrab6527 sure, but it takes too long to get to that point. In the meantime, npc's figuratively tell you where to shove it 🤣

    • @soulofmen
      @soulofmen Před 19 dny

      BG3 lets you challenge a God. Doesnt end well as you simply die in dialog by being non-existed

    • @acrab6527
      @acrab6527 Před 19 dny +6

      @@toffeecrisp2146 did you... fail the Aeon route? You start judging people as soon as you unlock the mythic path and rewrite history at least once per act.

  • @Hsneen
    @Hsneen Před 20 dny +75

    One of the few games that allowed me to play as a lich, which automatically make it my number 1 mythic path.
    Few of the things that made me like this path are,
    The fact throughout the the game I kept trying to be lawful evil playing as a lich, I had to justify my choices as I am saving people by dealing with demons using already dead soldiers, in return I am not making more casualities.
    In addition, people had to do shining crusade against you at the end if you stay in your castle after dealing with the demons.
    Which was a satisfying end to me.

    • @TheWayOfPencil
      @TheWayOfPencil Před 19 dny +6

      You should try dominions 6.

    • @Hsneen
      @Hsneen Před 19 dny +6

      @@TheWayOfPencil wow just checked it on steam, never heard of this game but definitely interesting find!
      Thank you!!

    • @Kepesk
      @Kepesk Před 19 dny +3

      ​@@TheWayOfPencilThanks for the recommendation. I'll probably pick this up.

    • @TheWayOfPencil
      @TheWayOfPencil Před 19 dny +1

      @@Hsneen You are welcome!

    • @Mikester88
      @Mikester88 Před 19 dny +1

      The last play through i started was a lich run, was very excited but i had some pretty game and immersion breaking bugs and glitches that made it hard to push trough the demon city. Got stuck somewhere and never went back to solve it

  • @JohnnyTightIips
    @JohnnyTightIips Před 19 dny +37

    When I first played I was the angel path, and I thought that the herald of the inheritor was set up specifically for that path, and I thought to myself "wow they did a different herald and story for EACH path" but I just happened to pick the most thematically appropriate one for the set part of the story :D

    • @timm8998
      @timm8998 Před 4 dny

      Angel is kind of the 'default' path.

  • @spellandshield
    @spellandshield Před 20 dny +64

    Such a strange take; Lich is AMAZING for Melee as well; so many abilities that boost it as well as spells such as Vampiric Blade. I respectively disagree.

    • @Schlumpsha
      @Schlumpsha Před 20 dny +18

      Agreed. Lich offers all class types something. Even Kineticists and Alchemist: both classes that are left in the dirt by other mythic paths in terms of synergy.

    • @dargoz8
      @dargoz8 Před 19 dny +8

      I made a lich "reaper" build that wears robes and uses a scythe. I beat the game on core with this build

    • @AaronQ64
      @AaronQ64 Před 19 dny +6

      I personally didnt like it as a melee class. I get what he is saying it felt like I was missing out on a lot and should have been something other than a death knight.

    • @spellandshield
      @spellandshield Před 19 dny

      @@AaronQ64 Try a monk; amazing synergy!

    • @AaronQ64
      @AaronQ64 Před 19 dny

      @spellandshield I got far enough in that I probably wont do lich again but thanks for the recommendation. Im far more interested in story content anyway.

  • @salatsultan397
    @salatsultan397 Před 19 dny +30

    2:15 omg the Swarm's interaction with Aivu is probaly the most evil thing you can do in the game :O

    • @Schlumpsha
      @Schlumpsha Před 19 dny +2

      I mean, Legend used to kill Aivu as well. Sadly that interaction when switching paths was patched out.

    • @icarue993
      @icarue993 Před 19 dny +3

      @@Schlumpsha I played Golden Dragon at release, and I thought I would get to keep Aivu. But once I became GD, she just disappears. I reload a save and completed the game as a full azata. But it felt weird that there was no interaction with her. Maybe they patch it out, otherwise it feels very weird that other paths get more interaction.

    • @KairoStark
      @KairoStark Před 17 dny +5

      @@icarue993 Once I saw that I would lose Aivu I just re-loaded the game and kept going Azata instead of becoming GD.
      Me being a dragon wasnt worth losing her.

    • @goransekulic3671
      @goransekulic3671 Před 14 dny +2

      It is. The entire Mythic is quite monstrous. But it's over the top. Lich also does all manner of Evil, horrible, heinous things. And hits much harder imo.

  • @toniviskari417
    @toniviskari417 Před 20 dny +41

    Currently replaying Wrath with Azata and completely agreed that the Devil option there constantly seems... Bizarre? Like Early Sunset is there just suggesting you do non-Azata stuff basically just because and doesn't even bother learning the song.
    It would have almost made more sense to have that temptation on the Angel path and try to have those whispers pulling you towards the strict law aspect of that approach.

    • @tric5122
      @tric5122 Před 19 dny +8

      100% agree devil should be tempting angle over azata. It's your classic tempting, they even talk about it in game with Aru trying to give up her demon life to be good and how angles always seem to fall, so why can't evil become good?

    • @Cassandra112
      @Cassandra112 Před 19 dny +3

      yeah, the man does not make a good case for why to swap. It might make some sense for Chaotic Azata, who is getting kids killed, etc. more noticeable downsides for going too chaotic. Riots, parties, lack of discipline in ranks getting troops killed, people refusing to pay taxes, deserters, innocents getting killed, etc.
      so, Sunset is just way too obvious with his totally unazata things he's saying. If would have worked better if he was pretending to be an Angel or Archon. Maybe from Abadar. god of cities, law, merchants and wealth.
      He could then argue lawful arguments, and again, point out any negative side effect to any decision you make. Then in the end, bring it together and argue you are doing just as much damage as the devils, and how you need rigid structure to fix things. And here a "true" azata, would have made choices to reign in the chaos and do more good then harm in the first place, while a chaotic azata might actually see their mistakes, and it would make some sense for them to do a full 180 swap.

  • @ddunt7782
    @ddunt7782 Před 20 dny +67

    Can we get recomended class/build for each mythic path. It would be helpfull for begginers

    • @tortoiseoflegends4466
      @tortoiseoflegends4466 Před 19 dny

      The tricky part is that there are so many builds and most paths have a ton of synergy with several classes, as well as many of the strongest builds making the game so easy there's basically 0 challenge.
      With how customisable the difficulty is too, it really is just down to what class you personally prefer to roleplay as.

    • @alexoelkers2292
      @alexoelkers2292 Před 19 dny +1

      ​@@tortoiseoflegends4466 Thats very true but there are definetely some classes that synergize better than others, (Angels and Oracles, Demons and Bloodragers) and you could easily make a video that chooses just one combination with the caveat that there are probably countless different combinations.

    • @kao123456654
      @kao123456654 Před 19 dny

      literally just google it.

  • @Kanjiimufu
    @Kanjiimufu Před 19 dny +13

    Azata was my first playtrough, because Chaotic Good just resonates with me, and I kinda regret it. Mostly because, I can't really see me playing anything else. I wanted to try Lich but quickly lost interest in being evil, Trickster still got an "Maybe" for my next playtrough... but I can't really imagine not being able to tell Aivu that she is my greatest Treasure.

    • @MRudim
      @MRudim Před 19 dny +3

      I got the same problem as well.. Aivu spoils every other playthrough.

    • @captainmike900
      @captainmike900 Před 19 dny +1

      i feel this so much. just got to act 4 as a lich and it is really hard to push onward. i will finish it, just going to play Azata again next😅

  • @ducky36F
    @ducky36F Před 20 dny +23

    Yeah gold dragon is my favorite, I actually really enjoyed the process you go through to transform and actually being able to be a true dragon is very cool.

    • @Locutusofborg41
      @Locutusofborg41 Před 19 dny +2

      Have to agree. Not as much content as some other paths but what's there is pretty good. (I am a little biased since I aways wanted to have one of my campaigns end that way)

  • @ramiel7666
    @ramiel7666 Před 19 dny +25

    I still think Angel path is the best, making Deskari shit itself in fear and burning random hells with holy fire was awesome!

    • @progamasEjogos
      @progamasEjogos Před 19 dny +3

      And it is the closest path that follows the canon tabletop adventure, i liked it even if I like more evil, not full evil, the grayzone, the angel is badass

  • @Fr0st1989
    @Fr0st1989 Před 19 dny +23

    I remember at one point the Aeon is facing an army of demons in Drezen and essentialy declares them all illegal immigrants and deports them all back to the Abyss. And you're right about the Angel path being the most fleshed out. It even has voice acting specific to it.

    • @bengunn9670
      @bengunn9670 Před 9 dny +3

      We have to build an interplanar wall!
      -- Aeon, probably

  • @PokerJeezus
    @PokerJeezus Před 20 dny +63

    May you walk in wisdom!

  • @johnnythedark3090
    @johnnythedark3090 Před 20 dny +18

    Aeon ending is definetly my favourite ending in the game especially the true aeon (with romanceable arushel). But stopping stauton and the swarm guy from becoming evil, saving terendelev and defeating arch devil - this path definietly have the most "power moments"

  • @klm7641
    @klm7641 Před 20 dny +3

    I am currently in Act 3 of my second playthrough and I LOVE hearing u talk about the game :)

  • @Poktor314
    @Poktor314 Před 19 dny +6

    I’ve completely bg3, pathfinder wotr and I’m pretty much done rogue trader. You’ve made me see the CRPG side of life and I thank you for it Mortym!!

  • @bubbly_ghost
    @bubbly_ghost Před 19 dny +9

    Wow, Aeon in the middle. I thought Aeon was peak or maybe 2nd due to it beig a really good story/one of the paths that actually felt complete

  • @TuanHoang-zy7of
    @TuanHoang-zy7of Před 20 dny +42

    Angel mechanics, especially if you merge spells, are so disgustingly strong that I have to give it number one.

    • @sharangcool
      @sharangcool Před 20 dny +15

      How many times in games could you call AN ORBITAL BOMBARDMENT FROM THE HEAVENS ABOVE!

    • @alexanderbakulin8836
      @alexanderbakulin8836 Před 20 dny +8

      it's strong mid-game. But overall, legend is ten heads above everything else. You can make builds like 20 titan fighter/20 gendarme that is just one-shotting all the bosses on unfair (while also having dozen attacks per turn and being unkillable). Trickster is also stronger than angel or lich late-game

    • @leathermage
      @leathermage Před 19 dny +9

      Correction: Angel is strong ONLY if you go merged spellbook because outside of spells this path gives you only halo and sword abilities. And both of them are weakest abilities of all mythic classes. Angel as a path outside of merging (fighters, barbarians, kinetics...) is Aeon level of power. Which isn't much.

    • @JohnDoe-il4dz
      @JohnDoe-il4dz Před 19 dny +1

      @@alexanderbakulin8836 lmao, good luck one-shotting Areelu.

    • @alexanderbakulin8836
      @alexanderbakulin8836 Před 19 dny +3

      ​@@JohnDoe-il4dzyou don't need luck. Every hit with such build is a critical (you take trickster for level 3 mythic path and then just stacking crit), she won't survive one charge from a 40 level gendarme with double lances. I exactly one-shotted her on my recent legend playthrough

  • @dragondog7443
    @dragondog7443 Před 19 dny +1

    Love your takes, man. Especially your focus on the roleplay/thematic writing of each, as opposed to just power mechanics! Azata was my first path, so love seeing it get some love.
    Now, back to my dhampir angel. May you wander in wisdom!

  • @spahghettiboi4150
    @spahghettiboi4150 Před 19 dny +4

    All the paths are dank imo, but Aeon easily has the best theme. Shit made me feel like i was going to the astral plane

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz111 Před 18 dny +2

    Some good news! The games for PS+ extra in July have leaked and Pathfinder: WotR is on there! Finally I’ll get a chance to play it for myself, as I’m sure many others will too (hopefully directing even more people to your channel!)

  • @Jandor1
    @Jandor1 Před 19 dny

    The ranking I wanted! Thank you, Mortismal!

  • @polishlinks
    @polishlinks Před 19 dny +4

    Absolutely agree with Azata. It is so content rich from the floating base, follower recruitment, healing the land, and everything with Aivu. People often overlook the value of Aivu when comparing power levels, as well as the value of sharing teamwork feats and giving your whole party extra feat points as a result. It's not just about outflank, allied spellcaster and tandem trip for all your pets are really nice to have. An Azata individual is not as strong as Lich or Angel, but I'd argue a team with Azata can be just as strong as a Lich or Angel team.

    • @flibbernodgets7018
      @flibbernodgets7018 Před 19 dny

      If only CG as expressed in Pathfinder didn't produce the most insufferable characters imaginable...

  • @EerieV23
    @EerieV23 Před 19 dny +7

    I played Azata to Chapter 5 and it was amazing. Currently doing a witch lich and I enjoy it to, but I am currently in Chapter 3.

  • @Dryblas002
    @Dryblas002 Před 19 dny

    I'm playing WOTR for the first time now, so perfect timing with these videos

  • @StardustSynchron
    @StardustSynchron Před 11 dny +1

    I finally beat the game for the first time an Azata all the way through was super fun. I love Aivu and the whole freedom aspect of the path :)

  • @rizrizriz
    @rizrizriz Před 19 dny +4

    True aeon ending made me (a grown up man) cry.

  • @EldenJohn75
    @EldenJohn75 Před 20 dny +2

    You’ve been spoiling us this week my man

  • @coconutologist
    @coconutologist Před 19 dny

    Thanks for the video. I think you went beyond video essay with this, and made some gaming culture. Onward to 400k. All glory to the algorithm.

  • @markt7177
    @markt7177 Před 19 dny +1

    Always great content ❤

  • @scienceontheright
    @scienceontheright Před 19 dny

    I am doing my first play-through as Azata, but now I definitely want to go thru again as Lich and Demon. Thank you for the video!

  • @user-cy7ej4yr6w
    @user-cy7ej4yr6w Před 20 dny +15

    Still waiting for Gold Dragon reworked, need quest and ability buff seriously. if ...there's still possibility.

    • @Idlemage
      @Idlemage Před 20 dny +9

      I wish it was reworked but I think they're done with the game after this dlc

    • @user-cy7ej4yr6w
      @user-cy7ej4yr6w Před 20 dny +3

      @@Idlemage free patching maybe? I remember the dev mentioned something about GD back in months.

    • @nikolaatanackovic7217
      @nikolaatanackovic7217 Před 19 dny +1

      They did said GD is up for a mechanical rework, if it will come out or get canceled we don't know

    • @Herr_Affe
      @Herr_Affe Před 15 dny +1

      What annoys me the most is that you basically set up everything you need in Act 3, then wait until 5 to be able to actually play the path. It's like they thought of making it an earlier mythic (considering how little variety that is, that would've been preferable), then changed their mind without doing much to pad the holes left. I frankly hate the idea of "late game Mythic Paths" in general. It's a worthless gimmick. Where's the logic in switching from Trickster to Gold Dragon, theme/narrative-wise? Azata to Devil? Lich to Legend?

    • @user-cy7ej4yr6w
      @user-cy7ej4yr6w Před 15 dny +1

      @@Herr_Affe Agree. Gold Dragon is one of the paths added by reaching goal in Kickstarter, so I think they fail to make it a whole path in the end. Kind of sad, since I've been hyped to GD even before the game is released.

  • @TheRetifox
    @TheRetifox Před 20 dny +15

    While Legend is not the best Myhtic path, it has the best theme. Master of my own fate is one of my favourite ost in RPG's

  • @Ohmargod
    @Ohmargod Před 19 dny +2

    My only finished playthrough was the Lich (game is way too long for me).
    Started with a Wizard, was very intrigued by the Lich mythic path. But roleplay-wise, I couldn't let go.
    Becoming a full Lich felt so wrong.
    So thank you game for the Legend mythic path.
    Going full caster with merged Lich Spellbook into full fighter was a blast. Literally.
    And I really like the sentiment of a Wizard searching for the ultimate power, only to discover that his humanity was more important to him.
    So he picks up the sword, something completely new to him, realizes his wasted talents, fights with sword and sorcery against hell itself and then just dies as a human.

  • @Zero_Zone.
    @Zero_Zone. Před 19 dny

    A spot-on ranked list of the mythic paths.

  • @stefeeNRG
    @stefeeNRG Před 19 dny +3

    I gotta bring myself and start a brand new playtrough as a Lich... I was always very interested in that type of roleplay

  • @Nihoolious
    @Nihoolious Před 18 dny +1

    The evil paths are so satisfying in this game. Demon's amazing rise to power story, Lich's power over life and death of their soldiers and companions, Devil being the necessary evil in that you dont lose your allies and Swarm being the strongest build ive ever created in game (Lich melee into Swarm = huge AC with a massive attack range and lifesteal x5 with clones)

  • @Adrunis
    @Adrunis Před 19 dny

    Good stuff, thank you!

  • @dominiccenteno1233
    @dominiccenteno1233 Před 19 dny +8

    Legend roleplay ftw!

  • @Zuginator
    @Zuginator Před 19 dny +3

    Lich makes an amazing MONK. I build a Dragon Monk with a lvl of Sorc with AC = CHA. Eventually your unarmed attacks HEAL you with spells.

  • @genehenson8851
    @genehenson8851 Před 19 dny +3

    From a story and interest perspective, it's a fair list. I personally love Lich and can't really stand Azata sillyness, but all of the points that you made are fair.

  • @LuciusPrimus
    @LuciusPrimus Před 20 dny

    Love your content!
    In the future, will you make a video about the story of each mythic path?

  • @b.benjamineriksson6030

    I just finished with Trickster and I really loved it. First play-through.

  • @PotrovNivanski
    @PotrovNivanski Před 19 dny

    I finished this game with most mythic paths, except Azata. Started a playthrough with fir that yesterday. So far i tend to regularly return to this game to play another mythic path. Awesome storytelling especially taking account the quantum or story arcs that are implemented

  • @DrIMNLove
    @DrIMNLove Před 19 dny

    Feasting on WotR content just in time for my first run of the game!

  • @zagadkazakafresko5409
    @zagadkazakafresko5409 Před 19 dny +4

    Lich is great spellcaster , but it isn't bad at melee either. Probably the only mythic path that fits in every built except divine casters

    • @progamasEjogos
      @progamasEjogos Před 19 dny

      The negative levels on hit is stupid strong btw, lich fits everyone, except good people

  • @Steve826z
    @Steve826z Před 20 dny

    Your videos helped me a lot when I first started the game. Really interested in your new recap videos. Since I'm about to finish my first play through and want to try out other mythic path stories, do you have any advice on how or when to set up save files during the game to make the replay process more easier?

    • @MortismalGaming
      @MortismalGaming  Před 19 dny +1

      Right before the mythic path choices & the start of each act with each path

  • @ayrfield2
    @ayrfield2 Před 19 dny

    Would love to see a video on how the updates have impacted character creation/leveling. I'm thinking of trying a playthrough again and it would be a big help.

  • @Tommy_The_Gun
    @Tommy_The_Gun Před 19 dny +3

    I kinda agree with the Gold Dragon not being super usefull. The main problem I have with this mythic path is that it is a "late game" mythic path. You unlock Dragon Form very late at the final act, even if you rush it just to do what is required for the quest (yes, u actually can go to the Ineluctable Prison & get the item & not finish the dungeon and return later). The issue is that there are simply other sources of draconic transformations that can be unlocked as early as level 12 or 13 if I remember correctly. Gold Dragon should have either weaker Dragon form unlocked earlier or maybe some story levels (like a dream sequence) when you control a dragon character.
    Story & lore wise it is great, but the concept was kinda wasted as its potential was not utilized & It just does not feel that impactful. It does not even have that many dialogue options that would be meaningful if you think about it. Gold Dragon should be kinda like "a Jedi" that can affect & alter what other NPCs are doing to the point that they may even change their alignment (like for example Camellia & her ending). I mean, I can convince the final boss that what they are doing is wrong & show them the way to do good stuff, but not a Companion ?!

  • @toniviskari417
    @toniviskari417 Před 20 dny +2

    Personal favorites are Angel and Azata as I usually go for the good alignments with Dragon currently still missing that content and never just having found the fun combination for Legend. Still I really like the alternative paths as those choices add a richness to the gameplay with Trickster being the only one that really doesn't even conceptually land for me.
    Funnily I think the Trickster path is the victim of what I am critical of in the Mythic path implementation as there is really one way to be on that path from a narrative perspective. This is understandable as resources are limited, but if you are a demon, you are forced to be evil and so forth. Which becomes a really big issue with the Trickster as they are this chaotic force, but because of that it ends up self-fulfilling chaos instead of really allowing the player to define a force for what.

  • @TheLocalDisasterTourGuide

    In my first play through, I was leaning Azata, but when I came to the actual choice, it started talking about the joy of a child taking their first steps...
    And my son was almost 1 at the time, so that hit me like a truck! I fell hard for that choice, and never regretted it.
    Also, when I saw the Flesh Markets for the first time, I wanted to attack SO BADLY. But, I restrained myself... and then they kidnapped Aivu, and never have I so enthusiastically accepted a fight! I was giddy taking down that market!
    Azata path was a treat to play!

  • @sircarlos3707
    @sircarlos3707 Před 19 dny +2

    Demon was my first choice in my first playthrough, and i dont regret it. Turning things upside down, as tou said, was its charm, and i had a blast playing it.
    It was only a shame i didnt find out at the time that if i accepted Nocticula's gift it would be 3x harder to beat her, so i just became her second in comand instead.
    Demonic teleportation was a remarkable skill for me, because i remember well that in the fight against Jerrybeth (dont remember the name exactly) had a very high AC, so i just spammed Demonic teleportation until he died lol.

    • @metsunie
      @metsunie Před 18 dny +1

      Same, and the funniest part about it when I did my demon campaign is that I sacrificed myself at the end, and Noticula was so against it that she revived you in the abyss at her side and I found that so cool as well lol

  • @gustavogrosch
    @gustavogrosch Před 19 dny +1

    My first playthrough was Trickster, and I banish that drunk from the start. So my experience was way less silly. You have to admit that transform the Wound in the Universe's Crossroad is the best idea to an "unclosable gate". You can even "trick" the ending to let the Crossroad become an open PVP area or become an Interplanes Mall

    • @IlluminaZero
      @IlluminaZero Před 18 dny

      Can you still advance mythic ranks if you banish the drunk?

    • @gustavogrosch
      @gustavogrosch Před 18 dny

      @@IlluminaZero I think yes, because the Arellu old house is "calling" you even without the guy. And the quest for Trickster is all about Nocticula and Socothbenoth

    • @IlluminaZero
      @IlluminaZero Před 18 dny

      @@gustavogrosch on replay I'm def banishing then. Easily my least favorite part of the Trickster mythic path - I intend to go Legend or Gold Dragon anyways later.
      I'm a bit surprised if the game doesn't punish you via denying you mythic ranks though. I don't care about endgame Trickster. I just want my max mystic ranks till I can go Gold Dragon or Legend.

  • @henrychurch6062
    @henrychurch6062 Před 19 dny

    I really appreciate that they took the time to make paths like Swarm actually viable, not only because it's going against the story of the campaign, but because it requires so many work arounds to how the game is intended to be played.

  • @darryllyle5250
    @darryllyle5250 Před 19 dny +2

    My gripe as far as the Mythic Paths go is that there isn't a really neutral option. Trickster is more leaning into Chaos rather than neutrality. Aeon is all about the Law. Where is the Path for people who don't care about good or evil? Like Druids for example. They can merge with Angel, but Angel doesn't fit Druids. Azata is about healing the land, which is close to what you would be looking for with a Druid, but all the other stuff is Goodie Goodie. Not about balance. I guess the closest thing to the true Neutral path would be Legend. However, going Legend irks me because I really want to stick it to Iomedae lol.

  • @madmurdoch2000
    @madmurdoch2000 Před 20 dny +1

    any chance you could do a vidio with suggested classes for each of the mythic paths and maybe even classes to not play for mythic paths?

  • @anonj.9440
    @anonj.9440 Před 19 dny

    I'm usually a story first, character build second type of player. So this list is very much appreciated. I wish I could play a good demon though since I've heard how good the story is, but oh well.

  • @stephenchurch1784
    @stephenchurch1784 Před 19 dny +1

    I'm going legend with my next run just because I've always wanted to play a mystic theurge but I've never wanted to give up the spells needed to do so

  • @chocopuddingcup83
    @chocopuddingcup83 Před 19 dny +5

    Azata, Angel, and Lich are definitely my favorites. Azata specifically because I enjoy bards and bard fits PERFECTLY with the entire Azata theme, as does a feyspeaker druid (which I also enjoy).

  • @GodOfOrphans
    @GodOfOrphans Před 17 dny

    I finished my first playthrough earlier this year, went Sylvan Sorcerer into Merged Lich and decided to get the SDG achievement too because why not and suceeded I might add. I absolutely loved the roleplaying aspect as I was going for a character who values love and friendship but ultimately values power more and in the end when pushed to choose between them will pick power everytime. The allure of "true freedom" to do whatever I desire take what I want slay whomever I want and take whatever I want was my raison d'etre and while I would prefer to take my friends to the top with me if they don't want in or get in the way so be it, actually achieving the Secret Ending with that character was so perfect for that as even the gods themselves could no longer bind me and the characters I managed to keep along the way ascended with me while those who betrayed their commander or who were neccessary sacrifices for power did not, making it simultaneously one of the most glorious and satisfying victories in any interactive story while simultaneously feeling hollow as I grew to miss the comrades and lovers that I betrayed along the way. I sorta modeled the character off of Bloody Harry and was shocked at how perfectly it fit the roleplaying of the lich path, and all that's just story praise.
    Mechanically it's an absolute blast too 6 unique party members, 2 of which are probably the best preset characters in the game, the Corrupt Magic spell and all the undead immunities oh it was so much fun to roll up on the infamous Playful Darkness and just delete it in 3 turns and then to do the same to all the high and mighty demon lords and bosses and watch them be rendered powerless before me, and despite being the best power fantasy I've ever experienced it still made me work for it, I couldn't sleepwalk through much if any encounters despite how one sided they ended up being and I had to work for that level of power especially in the early game. I'm looking forward to trying the other paths especially the more wholesome ones as a palette cleanser but that Lich playthrough set the bar so high I wonder if any of them can actually match it.
    I kinda wanna do merged Oracle/Angel next for being OP for an Unfair playthrough but that's all mechanical I haven't really settled on how to role play around that, I do have an idea for a Rob Lucci inspired inquisitor of Asmodeus Aeon into Devil though but that's prolly a little too much evil after just finishing a Lich playthrough and too underpowered for an Unfair or Last Azlanti run as I like to get all the challenge stipulations done first when completing RPGs so that the lower difficulties in future cleanup or for fun playthroughs feel more like the reward of unlocking god mode for completing everything the game has to offer challenge wise.

  • @Hainbane
    @Hainbane Před 19 dny +3

    Angel and Lich top 2 for me. Book merging and buffs to strong to ignore.

  • @spahghettiboi4150
    @spahghettiboi4150 Před 19 dny

    17:59 The guitar they put in for the theme for this one is amazing

    • @Schlumpsha
      @Schlumpsha Před 19 dny

      Demon getting a metal theme is pure chef's kiss

  • @roman-270
    @roman-270 Před 19 dny

    Azata at first place is genuinely insane. Like I know these are just your personal rankings but hot damn dude

  • @dumbgames4933
    @dumbgames4933 Před 19 dny

    Appreciate the spoiler-lite summaries! Definitely has me thinking differently about playing Demon if I ever do another playthrough

  • @felipebisi4145
    @felipebisi4145 Před 19 dny +2

    I mean aeon can cast a black hole through his/her eyes that to me is already a 1 to me
    A pity we will never get a DLC with a all out Brawl between the Mythic Paths

  • @desmondleake5672
    @desmondleake5672 Před 20 dny +3

    Everything is clear to me now

  • @Elliott13
    @Elliott13 Před 11 dny

    IMHO, the Angel path had my favourite story, theme, roleplay, and gameplay mechanics/power

  • @armelior4610
    @armelior4610 Před 19 dny

    As someone who haven't played yet and a bit overwhelmed by the choices for builds already, this mostly-spoiler-free video is real useful to get a rough idea what to expect.
    But to be honest I'm probably gonna pick gold dragon anyway because my 1st playthrough is always good-aligned and I love me some dragons...

  • @dddd-is9dh
    @dddd-is9dh Před 3 hodinami

    Aeon is the best for me, because, unlike other paths, there is just... You. No angels behind, no demons to serve you, no non-party friends to cheer you up, no swarm to devour for you. Only you and your raw power of comsic judge to make things right.

  • @josh4142
    @josh4142 Před 18 dny

    Azata and Angel seem most appealing to me. Anyone have a recommendation for which of these two paths I should use with my bladebound magus character?

  • @johnnycandles8675
    @johnnycandles8675 Před 19 dny +1

    As a person who has 300+ hours in WotR and have yet to finish chapter 3, I tend to go Azata myself. Problem is I keep seeing a new build and I restart the game. For real, this time, I am going to play all the way through as the Azata because I want to see how the story differs when I play as a lich my 2nd time through.

  • @Himewolf398
    @Himewolf398 Před 19 dny

    Gold dragon is my favorite. Druid MC with merged spellbook and becoming a holy dragon was super fun and I also like the fact that you can be a chaotic neutral demon instead of a 'for the evulz' cartoon villain.

  • @someother5512
    @someother5512 Před 19 dny

    I picked Azata in my first playthrough and will also pick it as my last, meant to be the fun mythic ideal and it is.

  • @Dimvou83
    @Dimvou83 Před 19 dny

    Can someone explain if the ability Knowledge Arcana from Tricker Mythic Path if worth it? any examples of "Minor" & "Major" item bonuses that are added?

    • @MortismalGaming
      @MortismalGaming  Před 19 dny

      Best I can tell it requires your character to be the one doing the identifying and that by itself is enough reason to say no to it most of the time. I dont have a full list but it only ever seemed to increase the enhancement bonus on things for me.

  • @herflik3
    @herflik3 Před 20 dny +2

    Well damn, I've been waiting to play the game for the first time for quite some time, decided i'll finally start playing next weekend while going in completely blind with an evil mofo so Swarm that walks seemed like a perfect fit. Sad to hear it's the worst of the mythic paths as it looks very cool just for the roleplaying aspect alone. Should I still give it a go? I plan on starting on the normal dificulty.

    • @progamasEjogos
      @progamasEjogos Před 19 dny +1

      Give it a shot, it is a pure evil, no manipupaltions, no intrigues just causing chaos and destruction, it is why i don't like it, cause u lose the npcs interactions, but if it is your taste give it a shot

  • @vyxzuw768
    @vyxzuw768 Před 19 dny

    I'd say that Swarm, Trickster and Legend are all like a player in a tabletop game that wants to go against the story.
    Swarm is the MurderHobo, Trickster is the Troll who is just doing whatever, and the Legend is the one who takes the game seriously, but doesn't want to follow the story you have planned (but still makes an interesting story.)
    Azata is like your kid sibling playing.

  • @wholca789
    @wholca789 Před 19 dny

    You know so much about this game you should do a walkthrough guide

  • @jmmywyf4lyf
    @jmmywyf4lyf Před 10 dny

    Mort,
    As it pertains to Azata and unlocking Devil
    You mentioned that it was strange that an exotic could end up as the devil's option. I want to say that I was playing a Cavalier of the paw, and an Azata.. As a halfling, I was very chaotic, and mischievous.. Not evil, but lore accurate for a halfling.. Choosing chaotic dialog options apparently opened the devil option.. As its clearly evil, obviously, we killed the devil.. But playing a mischievous, fun loving, chaotic halfling (much like Aivu) is how that happens.. Chaotic good alignment, but making kots of chaotic dialog iptions

  • @Nosferatu-BE
    @Nosferatu-BE Před 14 dny

    same here, i tried them almost all but always go back to azata !!

  • @comradecatbug5289
    @comradecatbug5289 Před 19 dny +1

    I have a video request!
    Could you make a list type video of 5 (or so) games that have improved the most since you reviewed them. Improvements would include QoL updates, bug fixes and patches, DLC and other expansions.

  • @cryamistellimek9184
    @cryamistellimek9184 Před 15 dny

    From what I heard before I played I thought I would hate Azata during my first playthrough but it was the only decent arcane option for good aligned people. It turned out to be one of my favorite runs outside of dealing with the free crusaders.

  • @TheKnightofTheNorth
    @TheKnightofTheNorth Před 19 dny

    Hey Mort, any idea where I can get the Lord Commander portrait at the start of the video? Thank you.

    • @anaphysik
      @anaphysik Před 19 dny

      That portrait is an official one. If you're on console, it's available without having to do anything. If you're on PC, make sure that you have the (free) "Faces of War" expansion installed and checked 'on'.

    • @TheKnightofTheNorth
      @TheKnightofTheNorth Před 18 dny

      @@anaphysik thank you!

  • @stupnevroman
    @stupnevroman Před 20 dny +2

    Alright, mate, you do sound convincing, Azata it is then.
    Still not sure if it will be more thematic and fun than my first playthrough as human-cavalier/Angel.
    I called it Winded Hussar.

    • @JohnnyTightIips
      @JohnnyTightIips Před 19 dny +1

      WHEN THE WINDED HUSSARS ARRIVED
      PUFFING DOWN THE MOUNTAINSIDE
      OUT OF BREATH THEY TURNED THE TIDE

  • @eyalrosengarten5683
    @eyalrosengarten5683 Před 19 dny

    Just finished an azata run do you interact with Dezna only if you pick her as a deity at the start?

    • @MortismalGaming
      @MortismalGaming  Před 19 dny +1

      No, but not as much for sure. Your main azata contacts are with her acolytes though so she comes up a lot no matter what.

    • @eyalrosengarten5683
      @eyalrosengarten5683 Před 19 dny

      I thought i missed something glad to to see I didn't thank you. ​@@MortismalGaming

  • @t.t6294
    @t.t6294 Před 18 dny

    I absolutely loved Aeon. the ending made me tear up. I started an Azata playthrough yesterday. hope it can live up to aeon

  • @cauthrim4298
    @cauthrim4298 Před 19 dny

    I just can't think of making another mythic path after two Azatas, too tempting man

  • @dumplingshakes22
    @dumplingshakes22 Před 20 dny

    Thanks to all your pathfinder videos I’ve been walking in wisdom instead of getting dunked haha

  • @Blackbeard069
    @Blackbeard069 Před 4 dny

    Let's not forget you can romance Nocticula in the Demon path.

  • @Falkinger
    @Falkinger Před 4 dny

    Azata is best because you can halfass through Act 5 not doing several companion quests, no puzzles, get several sliders that you are a lazy crusader and still unlock the 0,5% sadistic game design achievement which I did not get on Aeon when I probably 100% the playthrough.

  • @ilejovcevski79
    @ilejovcevski79 Před 19 dny

    Last stand was really the only mythic power that i would take over any other, and probably influenced my original game play most. Soloing demons and bosses toe to toe, with nothing but your weapon and shield in your arms, really fulfilled my dreams of epic character.

  • @frostb1041
    @frostb1041 Před 19 dny

    I am playing as a Inquisitor Dhampir with holy vampire powers, how is my setup?

  • @erikskoog8415
    @erikskoog8415 Před 13 dny

    Good show sir

  • @venbruen
    @venbruen Před 17 dny

    As an olded guy who grew up on ttrpgs and lots of gaming i love this game and your channel. Youd be welcome in my roll20 games anytime !

  • @rastasplash7334
    @rastasplash7334 Před 19 dny

    Can you help us out with some building guides or even a how to figure out building characters guide?

  • @brunorodi1702
    @brunorodi1702 Před 19 dny

    My first playthrough was lich dirge bard and it was great!

  • @tahjshaunbrooks6722
    @tahjshaunbrooks6722 Před 19 dny

    We have similar rankings. The idea of the trickster put me off from even attempting it along with the swarm. Demon is my fav but it would've been Devil if you had the chance to get it earlier in the game like Aeon and other Mythic Paths

  • @Darkanteros
    @Darkanteros Před 19 dny

    Azata is my favorite too. The adventure is so much better with Aivu along for the ride!

  • @sergejserstinskij6032
    @sergejserstinskij6032 Před 19 dny +1

    Despite narrative is not so great, True Aeon has the best ending slides by far for my taste. Was disappointed with Azata. Angel/Demon story has a quality as well.