He technically broke 0 rules and capitalized on loopholes and the wave created by him waiting in silence. I was gonna say rules are made to be broken but he just executed this shit like a chess player.
it’s frustrating how few people talk about how much of a masterpiece endless actually is... it’s not just a throwaway album to get out of his label, it’s a genuine album that gets mercilessly overshadowed by its big brother
He didn't finesse the music industry he basically got what he was supposed to get out of the music industry while most other artists don't. they end up getting finessed For their royalties publishing and masters.
The funny part is that endless is most likely his most avant-garde album ever, but makes sense why he dropped it under def jam because very few can understand it which equals less revenue but still keeps his reputation in tact
Constantly refreshing Reddit along with other sleep deprived fans slowly going insane watching a livestream of an empty white room was one of the most surreal times of my life
You know, this is actually a ridiculously good way to send a message to a company. He felt neglected by a record label, so he made a deal with them to release a new album, released an album that is locked behind either a really long visual livestream or Apple Music, got out of the contract, and used the album he just released to point directly to his REAL next album, releasing it independently from that contract. That's creative. Now, Endless is still a GOOD album, but it's clear that he didn't intend it to stand on it's own as his work, instead mostly intending it as a giant advertisement for the project he ACTUALLY wanted to put time into.
All he did is work on two diff projects and drop the decoy one first to get out of the deal, then drop the real album right after. Great that this worked for him, but this is not a SO incredibly smart move he did there.
For the life of me. I struggle to make sense out of why the fuck people idolize them so much. They are just fucking people. I bet you her shit smells worse than yours. Their bank balance is the only difference.
Don't forget that ENDLESS is still a very good album though. Experimental, beautiful and dreamy. Its not as good as blond in my opinion, but its still easily in my top 10 albums of all time.
yeah, exactly. endless was simply some "decoy." it was an incredible album, the finesse was from the fact that he knew blonde would have much more popular appeal and that is where the check would really be coming from
Found out about this guy only recently from a really important person to me. I am so blown away by his raw talent, but more so I really respect him for being who he is. He isn’t faking any social media persona, he is proving that YOU are NOT the selling point of your brand, but the work you put out is. I highly respect him and it feels weird barely even knowing him, but the impact this dude has had on so many people just through his music speaks for it self. Frank is and always will be a legend and a true example of how hard work, intuition, talent and doing your own thing pays off.
He kinda did. Endless was turned in just to keep Def Jam away from the apple deal. smart. He had to repay 2 million to get out the contract and hide the 20 million ace In The hole that def jam would have wanted a massive cut of, then on top Blond came out just a day later killing Endless in sales and mindshare. Def Jam lost big time.
@@duragbu830 No clue. If Def Jam knew there was 20 million ready to be laid out on the table they never would have let Frank go when they did. Frank just needed Endless out the door so DefJam would have no say so in signing the apple deal or a claim to any of the money.
I think the most important thing to recognize is that he was able to pay back his $2M advance. I’m sure a lot of other people have tried to get out of deals in a similar way, but because FO was financially smart, he won.
Its funny how people are now talking about this, when this was almost 3 years ago when it happened. Frank Ocean changed the way streaming and contracts worked for big labels forever.
Endless is almost as good as Blonde, and that’s saying a lot, considering Blonde is one of the Best albums of the ‘10s. Wither is one of the most beautiful tracks I’ve ever heard and U.N.I.T.Y is as Epic as Nikes. Also, Comme Des Garçons is catchy as hell
PhrAntoine nah he’s with GenerationNow/Atlantic records. After is trash ass contract expires he’s either going solo or with YSL or XO. He’s always happy around XO crew compared to his label
@lillightskin303 lmaooooooo you clearly don't know what your talking about there was no handing shaking at all. cb jumped him and frankie fought back end of story
I remember i met frank ocean in new york last year (2018) of may 28th. i was riding the train and i missed my stop then i got of around 6th st in manhattan (wasn't my stop) then i seen frank ocean out the corner of my eye. i was scared to talk to him at first lmaooooooooo. then my mind was telling me go for it, it keep saying the same thing. then i went for it and asked if he was "frank ocean" just to start the conversation off right lmaooooo he mad chill good vibe and also guy's i didnt get a photo with him :/ .
@@TrapLoreRoss as i think about it now yesssssss. i'll meet him once again. he told me he's from new orleans (7th ward) i'm also born and raised in new orleans (lower 9th) not far from him. i know the next time meet him he will remember me then boom we go from there lolllll.
Finally, an entertainingly informative, ridiculoulsly dry witty channel I can watch without feeling like I've lost I.Q points. First time subscriber to any channel ever, binge watching your content.
nah probably not cause frank didnt really fuck with the label he was in and if he puts it out he will be basically giving the label money cause maybe the label has all the rights to endless
this is one of the most professionally done analyses done about frank. thank you for sharing your thoughts. There are endless (get it?) layers to this man.
I'm glad he was able to get over in this manner. Now I know why we didn't hear much about him recently. He has enough money to live comfortably, write & produce songs & pick what projects he chooses to do.
He wrote channel orange in 3 weeks? That’s a classic.
Dat crazy workrate
Wrote the songs over 3 weeks, but recorded them over many months.
took 9 months to refine after
Storm the white house. New age Black panther movement coming.
valeriaxcx tupac wrote 2albums in 1 week
Frank playing Chess while everyone else playing Checkers.
Frank Playing 4d monopoly Chess with 20 hotels on the board while everyone else playing pong.
Turhan Henderson nah, he’s playing Space, 3-D, VR, chess. Everyone else is playing Tic-Tac-toe
@@mgardner70 I might have to steal that tic tac toe part and put that instead LMAO
@@TrapLoreRoss factlets!
A true player 4 real. Don't hate the player hate the 🎮
Wow not one disrespectful comment about Frank. That’s dope and respect. Frank you are love. The world loves Frank Ocean. God bless your mom.
Frank's a Don.
@@TrapLoreRoss faamk osean
have you seen her? Gorgeous
What about the period blood joke though? 😂
@@miras_edge what joke?
The Devil works hard but Frank Ocean works harder.
And Kris Kardashian works hardest
T M he’s a little confused but he got the spirit
kiidchris this is sending me
Facts
nah tbh, franks like that super talented kid from school that doesn’t do much, but when he does, it’s insane
He technically broke 0 rules and capitalized on loopholes and the wave created by him waiting in silence. I was gonna say rules are made to be broken but he just executed this shit like a chess player.
he's been playin chess while they were playin checkers
DEF JAM: "King me!"
Frank: "Pff. Check-mate, bitch."
Yes he did. I couldn't have stated that better myself.
Esharido yes, finessed.
Facts if they can finesse you, you can finesse them 🤷🏽♂️
Thus Frank secures his place next to Prince as one of the few that got over on the Music Business.
Fax
Yes 💯💯💯💯
Yeah but look what it cost prince= his life. Just like MJ and soon to be Chris Brown who owns his masters now.
@@gbanks6924 they probably are in a better place. What is life? We don't even know
@@PastorBlessed1 I agree. Just sad that you either have to sell your soul or lose your soul for that shit.
You're not a legend unless you get beat up by Chris brown
Life goals
Drake, Soulja, and Offset almost had their legendary status
If you get beat up by Chris Brown. Your a bitch
📠📠📠📠📠📠📠📠
@@kingduck1406 hopefully that bitch can spell.
“The second Grammy nominated artist to get beaten up by Chris brown”🤣🤣🤣
bey did not announce a world tour with no album for you to refer to her as jay's wife lol
Watch my other vids G, it's a callback to another joke.
She is gay z wife aka queen of illuminati
# of likes is 444. Coincidence. 4:44
Hermela Afewerki ahhh lolz
#PutSomeRESPECTOnHerName 😆
I just got 9 minutes and 15 seconds of my life finessed.
😂😂😂 funny shit homie ✌
2nd name in 90 days
😂😂😂😂
I don’t know if that’s true, but it’s still funny
blessed* 9 minutes and 15 seconds
I B WHOIB 🤣
Excuse me, marry?
it’s frustrating how few people talk about how much of a masterpiece endless actually is... it’s not just a throwaway album to get out of his label, it’s a genuine album that gets mercilessly overshadowed by its big brother
Endless is a listen that you listen to endlessly
For me it's his best album to date. Sadly it's not likely to be reissued on physical format anymore.
there should be a movie made about this
ifkr
That would be a good movie
I'm working on it.
@gid patience slater
I cant find proof of him actually getting 20M so thats how he finessed def jam for 20M 😂😂...i just got finessed into watching this whole video
Totally missed out the whole point of the video
You're right Drew. This was click bait bullshit. The 20M figure in the title is completely made up speculative nonsense.
U dont trust asap rocky?
@@boc813 it was from apple you dumass
Asap rockys word is enough proof
whats even more amazing is endless is a decoy album but its still better than most music
Lol Frank's decoy album be better than Chris Brown's whole catalogue
Because Franks a real artist. It's rare to me someone so artistic and still so intelligent when it comes to business.
@@TrapLoreRoss Chris brown got hits on hits on hits on Rihanna
not only most music, its literally top 15 projects of all time for me
@@NakedEndoskeleton lets relax
He didn't finesse the music industry he basically got what he was supposed to get out of the music industry while most other artists don't. they end up getting finessed For their royalties publishing and masters.
You literally just explained the reason what he did should be considered a finesse...
Soooo.. he finessed them?
Artist be give they all while getting finessed just to be famous…… not frank 😂
I’m glad somebody finessed Def Jam because they’ve been doing musicians dirty since before I was born
ASAP rocky is to loud he needed to keep quiet about franks finesse
Lol now everyone gonna be finessing Def Jam. First Jay now Frank.
@@TrapLoreRoss Exactly, it's hard enough for talent to ge recognized these days.
everyone knew about this in 2016
*too
Everybody in the industry already knows about that and they've chanved everything now so it won't happen again
beautiful analysis, i guess i have to spend my next eight hours listening to frank songs
I must have spent at least that just editing this and it wasn't bad.
defib or you can upload some skywars :)
defib won't regret it
I was gonna spend the next 8 hours listening to Frank anyways...
defib holy shit I remember you, what happened with you and mydeoza
The funny part is that endless is most likely his most avant-garde album ever, but makes sense why he dropped it under def jam because very few can understand it which equals less revenue but still keeps his reputation in tact
Constantly refreshing Reddit along with other sleep deprived fans slowly going insane watching a livestream of an empty white room was one of the most surreal times of my life
You know, this is actually a ridiculously good way to send a message to a company. He felt neglected by a record label, so he made a deal with them to release a new album, released an album that is locked behind either a really long visual livestream or Apple Music, got out of the contract, and used the album he just released to point directly to his REAL next album, releasing it independently from that contract. That's creative. Now, Endless is still a GOOD album, but it's clear that he didn't intend it to stand on it's own as his work, instead mostly intending it as a giant advertisement for the project he ACTUALLY wanted to put time into.
thank u for the breakdown!
🎓Knowledge is Power. 💯😎🔥Once again thanks 4 the breakdown down.✌
You explained it better than the CZcamsr 🤦🏻♂️ sank U
@@clickryanG yea the guy in the video doesn’t explain it so well lolol
How is this a finesse - the music industry has been doing this shit to artist forever. Sounds like how frank got justice
Yeah but he did it soooo clean. On some Godfather Moe Greene shit.
You probably didn't even watch the entire video Darrell
Hence how he finessed them def jams dead ass only got $157,000 meanwhile he dropped Blonde the next day got his 20,000,000
Lol yeah the whole "he cheated the system" it's a patriarchy and it's fucked anyways all he got out of em was what he rightfully deserved
All he did is work on two diff projects and drop the decoy one first to get out of the deal, then drop the real album right after. Great that this worked for him, but this is not a SO incredibly smart move he did there.
Not saying Endless is better than Blond(e), but it is by far Frank Ocean's most underrated and underappreciated work
Endless has slowly become my favorite album of his. This guy talking about it like it's not a real album
I mean it kinda is better tho
I love Endless so much
Fr... CDG a classic
and it's getting better and better overtime
"aka jay-z's bloody wife" bruh that is beyonce. THE beyonce lmfao
zyzyx r/woosh
Beyonce shit
Jay z is way better and more popular
For the life of me. I struggle to make sense out of why the fuck people idolize them so much. They are just fucking people. I bet you her shit smells worse than yours. Their bank balance is the only difference.
TheBaller not true
"Everybody's favorite elevator punching bag and disgraced Maybach repair man" lmaooo i hate you 😂👌
Had 2 be done
😂
I laughed so hard on hearing it😂😂
Don't forget that ENDLESS is still a very good album though. Experimental, beautiful and dreamy. Its not as good as blond in my opinion, but its still easily in my top 10 albums of all time.
I LOVE Endless tbf
Endless belonged to Def Jam that’s why it’s booty 😂
yeah, exactly. endless was simply some "decoy." it was an incredible album, the finesse was from the fact that he knew blonde would have much more popular appeal and that is where the check would really be coming from
1017 Alyx 9sm well booty is great so i assume that’s what you’re saying about the underrated yet beautifully orchestrated project that is endless
Of all time... Ay curumba
Found out about this guy only recently from a really important person to me. I am so blown away by his raw talent, but more so I really respect him for being who he is. He isn’t faking any social media persona, he is proving that YOU are NOT the selling point of your brand, but the work you put out is. I highly respect him and it feels weird barely even knowing him, but the impact this dude has had on so many people just through his music speaks for it self. Frank is and always will be a legend and a true example of how hard work, intuition, talent and doing your own thing pays off.
He didn’t finesse them OUT of 20 million tho this video just shows how he finessed his way into independence
Facts, this vid misleading af
He kinda did. Endless was turned in just to keep Def Jam away from the apple deal. smart. He had to repay 2 million to get out the contract and hide the 20 million ace In The hole that def jam would have wanted a massive cut of, then on top Blond came out just a day later killing Endless in sales and mindshare. Def Jam lost big time.
@@lastone032085 So Def Jam had no clue about Blond. Thats crazy.
@@duragbu830 No clue. If Def Jam knew there was 20 million ready to be laid out on the table they never would have let Frank go when they did. Frank just needed Endless out the door so DefJam would have no say so in signing the apple deal or a claim to any of the money.
@@duragbu830 He got 100% creative control which was the smartest thing Frank worked out
Shouts out to Frankie Ocean....
Young Frankie Finesser!
Stefan Trifunovic Bumping oldies off my cellular phone.
Get me a persian rug where the center looks like galaga.
Hodgie daddies..
Shouts out to Left Brizzle
If you're looking to die, take a shot every time he says 'legend' or 'legendary'
Haha damn it, was hoping people wouldn't pick up on that fml
I think the most important thing to recognize is that he was able to pay back his $2M advance. I’m sure a lot of other people have tried to get out of deals in a similar way, but because FO was financially smart, he won.
when asap said i don't rock chanel i rock channel this is what he means.
Its funny how people are now talking about this, when this was almost 3 years ago when it happened. Frank Ocean changed the way streaming and contracts worked for big labels forever.
Endless was great tho y'all should really give it a chance
It's actually fire
It honestly is the higgs is fire
Where can I stream endless?
Noskills I got no skills it’s on CZcams lol
@@garyguzman630 So many great songs on that album. Rushes is my favorite though.
Man, I love your videos. Keep doing what you doing!
This guy is epically hilarious & well researched. Thnx & kudos mate
8:24 wow the new 21 savage single is straight fire
You da real MVP
i've never heard of someone emphasizing beyonce's fame by saying shes "jay-z's bloody wife"
witty username now you have
foreal. it should be beyonce period. jay is smaller than her as a global star
@@karlsylvain jay z sold more records than her she's not bigger than jay z lol.
“They looking for a check, tell em it ain’t likely” got a whole different meaning than what it looks like
this is a great informative video thanks bruv!
FINESSIN FINESSIN.... I CANT GO ONE DAY WITHOUT FINESSING
Everyday finessing bro
Quintana Pt. 2
travis tha goat
*straight up*
straight up!
Endless is almost as good as Blonde, and that’s saying a lot, considering Blonde is one of the Best albums of the ‘10s.
Wither is one of the most beautiful tracks I’ve ever heard and U.N.I.T.Y is as Epic as Nikes.
Also, Comme Des Garçons is catchy as hell
All facts
Higgs tho come on
Manuelxo Nike’s is okay
Manuelxo pink+white and nights tho 🔥
Siegfried thooooo
This was so dope, thank you!!
Yes Ross, banging video, keep finessin g
Appreciate it bro! Gonna keep going, they can't stop me 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
step in Def Jam building like I'm the shit
Tell 'em, "Give me 20 million now or I'mma quit"
Yeeeezus
kaiz n when I read this I swear I read it with Kanye’s voice ‼️‼️🤣🤣🤣
“And the only place I could find it was pornhub” lmao
Real talk. Pornhub is the spot for Banned drill songs and Frank Ocean visual albums ha!
Pornhub has Rick and Morty episodes
That's cuz Frank is porn for your ears
Actaully found the broly movie there but they just took it down recently
Because it gives you eargasms! 👂💦💦💦
I just discovered your channel and i love it! Very interesting analysis work! You won a new subscriber here 🙋🏾♀️😘
I’ll never forget the livestream and the hype around endless. Reddit was poppin off.
Brandon Arnold yo i remember that shit like it was yesterday. Reddit was going crazy with endless and the whole rollout
Right? Tripping out the whole time wondering what the fuck is going on
the chris brown joke was filthy
Had to do it.
Very...
@@TrapLoreRoss Nah you didnt
@@TrapLoreRoss You really didn't.
YES TRAP LORE❤️🦋
Now he finessed his fans out of hundreds of thousands of dollars, possibly millions and started his own high society jewelry store.
Didnt they issue refunds? I though I read a pitchfork article about refunds.
I liked the video the second I heard the Chris Brown joke 🤣
Glad you liked it!
I don’t get it😭😭
@@hooklynee5851 he said frank ocean was the second grammy winner to be beaten up by chris brown. the first being rihanna
@@user-yi5xb2py7k damn.
Great work as always. Loved the humor you threw in there.
Legendary, thanks so much. Trying to do a little extra in this one.
Cool video, but you didn’t actually explain “how Frank Ocean finessed Def Jam out of $20,000,00.”
luke rogers did you even watch the video?
De Shayna he legit said he couldn’t find proof he secured a $20m bag
watch the video stupid ass
Dripping in finesse. U know it. Getting those bags. 💰💳📝
My man!
Respect his business savy, watch your back Frank... they're coming for you brotha
Illuminati after him now
this all happened over 2 years ago, if they want to get Frank,they probably did
20 mill ain’t shit, if anything he earned their respect
@@useraccount9414 oh boy are you ignorant.
Fuck! They got his bro :(
This is what Lil uzi has to do to get out his label 😤🙏🏽
Not a bad shout ha
Isn't he on XO
PhrAntoine nah he’s with GenerationNow/Atlantic records. After is trash ass contract expires he’s either going solo or with YSL or XO. He’s always happy around XO crew compared to his label
@@SossboyOG i would like to hear a slimier uzi
Wont work
yo when he came out with that music I was so happy! just knowing this makes me so happy !
this video was amazing, thanks for sharing.
When the stuck inna lift album dropping 😤😤
Ayeee, One million likes and I might leak the full version ;)
Someone screen shot this. We need it!!!
😂😂😂😂
He didn’t get beat up lol he was fighting back and gave cb a bloody nose
Not what I heard 👀
@@TrapLoreRoss Listen to Sunday by Earl Sweatshirt ft Frank Ocean... Altho it's just a song, i guess you don't know if it's true or not.
@lillightskin303 lmaooooooo you clearly don't know what your talking about there was no handing shaking at all. cb jumped him and frankie fought back end of story
Frvstyxo that’s not what reports say. They say Cb reached out to shake Franks hand and frank denied it over a parking space.
The finesse is selling: mixtape, ep, and a magazine as albums😂
Great video. Will share
I remember i met frank ocean in new york last year (2018) of may 28th. i was riding the train and i missed my stop then i got of around 6th st in manhattan (wasn't my stop) then i seen frank ocean out the corner of my eye. i was scared to talk to him at first lmaooooooooo. then my mind was telling me go for it, it keep saying the same thing. then i went for it and asked if he was "frank ocean" just to start the conversation off right lmaooooo he mad chill good vibe and also guy's i didnt get a photo with him :/ .
Heartbreaking man.
@@TrapLoreRoss as i think about it now yesssssss. i'll meet him once again. he told me he's from new orleans (7th ward) i'm also born and raised in new orleans (lower 9th) not far from him. i know the next time meet him he will remember me then boom we go from there lolllll.
@@wankkebtv i wish u luck lol
Wankke Basiley fake ass story
Nah a photo isn't everything man..he probably appreciated it more that you didn't ask
meek mill falling down the stairs is so funny
asa dalbra that shit had me dyyyyyyinnnn 🤣🤣🤣
This was amazing ❤️
thank you for this
The Asap rocky interview was in 2019
Great video man keep it up
Thank you will do!
Finally, an entertainingly informative, ridiculoulsly dry witty channel I can watch without feeling like I've lost I.Q points. First time subscriber to any channel ever, binge watching your content.
wow thank you for finally explaining this, I was so confused when I heard Endless
They were both Masterpieces more people will see when Endless gets on streaming worldwide
nah probably not cause frank didnt really fuck with the label he was in and if he puts it out he will be basically giving the label money cause maybe the label has all the rights to endless
He never got beaten up. He actually knocked out Chris Brown’s bodyguard
Still stuck in this lift !!! 🔥🔥🔥
Someone come help me plz
That meek mill's stair case comment had me laughing omg lolllll
Really top review mate! Really interesting 🔥
Thanks so much!
Trap Lore Ross no worries!
OMG it’s Shirls
This video is great! Hope your *channel* blows up bro.
Thanks bro. Hoping so!
Bro how are you going to refer to Endless as a distraction. It's literally a masterpiece
... because that’s what it was
@@addictedtomoney2196 nah
Damn bro rlly did finessed Def Jam
2:22 we all know who Beyoncé, no need to bring up Jay Z
NyoomBot lmao fr
fr that was f'd up
its relevant to mention because jay would then work with frank lol
it was a joke from a past video lmao bye
I can see this video blowing up
Fingers crossed!
@@TrapLoreRoss great job bro!
I wise man once said, "walked in def jam office like I'm the shit, told em gimme 50 million or imma quit"
Yo the shade in this video is hilarious. 😂😂😂
Keep it up!!
Will do!
this is one of the most professionally done analyses done about frank. thank you for sharing your thoughts. There are endless (get it?) layers to this man.
I don't like videos or subscribe often, however I would re-watch this many times. Thanks.
Hey means a lot to hear that. Thanks for the support!
I'm glad Frank set up, rebuke and roast Lucian Grange from Universal 😆😆😆
I'm glad he was able to get over in this manner. Now I know why we didn't hear much about him recently. He has enough money to live comfortably, write & produce songs & pick what projects he chooses to do.
does this dude sound like Colin from Bandersnatch or is that just me
hahaha damn!
Just give me a FUCKIN SIGN!
alan he sounds exactly like him
He sounds like 21 Savage
Is that the guy who makes you take ecstasy? Loool he took a dive off the balcony in my story, I chucked when he hit the ground
what u mean? Endless is sooo good
This video is amazing. What was that instrumental playing in the background of the first part of the video?
Take a shot every time he says "finesse"
Thank you for this because the cracked youtube channel really just glossed over the entire story, thank you for giving detail on everything
Yeah their video on this Suuuuucked. Thanks for watching.
The end was hilarious with the R Kelly joke
Frank is a genius ✊🏾
The biggest surprise? The at decoy album Endless is an absolute classic once you grab the lossless retail version
Endless is heavily slept on, its very experimental and Frank did genuinely worked on it unlike the popular narrative that it was a throw away albumn.
That little snip of you stuck in the lift had was brilliant.
1 year later and I’m still shocked on how this man pulled this legendary finesse
Blowing up my man
Trying dawg!
Trap Lore Ross keep on and you’ll be the new before they were famous without the dickhead host.