Navy F-14 Aircraft - Flat Spin Training

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • Network footage of F-14 Tomcat flat spin recovery procedures. This video was recorded around the time of the original Topgun movie with interest in flat spin recovery. Recorded 1980’s.

Komentáře • 75

  • @Gangsta_Playz
    @Gangsta_Playz Před rokem +112

    “In 1984-85 there we no accidents at all involving F14’s” we all know what happened in 1986…

    • @samray3843
      @samray3843 Před rokem +29

      RIP Goose

    • @timf2279
      @timf2279 Před rokem +6

      TALK TO ME GOOSE, ROOSTER?

    • @boiii_283
      @boiii_283 Před rokem +9

      WATCH THE CANOPY

    • @viper1791
      @viper1791 Před rokem +5

      Welcome to Top Gun Mates.
      Today a bald man sweats.
      Maverick rides a focking motorcycle.
      And goose cracks his neck like a *GLOWSTICK*

    • @geemanbmw
      @geemanbmw Před rokem

      Yeah Snort was Grumman Top Pilot of the year in 1986 and TopGun Pilot of the year in 1985 oh yeah and that movie called TOPGUN 😂

  • @dirkdarwin2571
    @dirkdarwin2571 Před rokem +38

    Flat spins are fine. It's the ones that go out to sea that cause serious plot twists

    • @oldlineaviation2830
      @oldlineaviation2830 Před 11 dny +3

      I still would like to know how they are over the desert, enter into a flat spin, then drift so far out over and into the ocean there isn't any land in sight.

    • @_not_sure_
      @_not_sure_ Před 4 dny +1

      they also caused serious pilot twists

    • @dirkdarwin2571
      @dirkdarwin2571 Před 5 hodinami

      @@oldlineaviation2830 I think Val Kilmer fluffed the line. It was supposed to be 'Maverick's in a flat spin and he's headed down to an oasis'

  • @user-ml1ow7nk8i
    @user-ml1ow7nk8i Před rokem +34

    "I CAN'T REACH THE EJECTION HANDLE!"

  • @thetiredsalmon84
    @thetiredsalmon84 Před 2 lety +43

    Testing tomcat did 1600mph+ not the production f-14 was throttled back to mach 2.34 navy requirement. Tomcat was the most beautiful jet fighter ever made.

    • @spysareamyth
      @spysareamyth Před rokem +5

      Closing speed is both aircraft, so they were only doing ~800mph each

    • @SonOfTheChinChin
      @SonOfTheChinChin Před rokem +1

      nah su-27 is the most beautiful jet ever made

    • @geemanbmw
      @geemanbmw Před rokem +2

      It's beautiful but not as beautiful as the Tomcat and you know it... just admit it, it's cool man no one will judge you 😁

    • @THEREALCAPTAINDREAD
      @THEREALCAPTAINDREAD Před 6 měsíci +2

      F-14 was my fave but now I got a chubby for Su-57

    • @kman33ful
      @kman33ful Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@SonOfTheChinChin it pretty much looks like the su-35 and su 33

  • @TurboHappyCar
    @TurboHappyCar Před 8 měsíci +20

    Looks like Linda Shaffer-Vanaria did become a test pilot and according to her LinkedIn profile had a successful career in the Navy and then went on to a career as a consultant and public speaker. Nice!
    Also: 1) Look at the turn needle 2) Rudder Opposite 3) Stick into it. Got it. Hopefully I'll only crash half as much in DCS. 😂

    • @RayRose-wp4is
      @RayRose-wp4is Před 25 dny +1

      Rudder opposite, Stick into it. Got it.

    • @ReptileRescue
      @ReptileRescue Před 7 dny

      Nope, you don't have it yet. Have to reduce AoA first, and that requires stick forward.

    • @TurboHappyCar
      @TurboHappyCar Před 3 dny

      ​@@ReptileRescue Try it and see what happens 😂

    • @RayRose-wp4is
      @RayRose-wp4is Před 3 dny +1

      Stick into it, pitch nose down ; Rudder opposite is the correct stall, spin recovery sequence.

  • @NotMe-hm2zd
    @NotMe-hm2zd Před 14 dny +4

    the days when dads were in the household and anything was possible

  • @celestialfix
    @celestialfix Před 13 dny +2

    Grumman made a lot of great ‘Cats for the Navy.

  • @dl0g09
    @dl0g09 Před 22 dny

    Very good choice of recomendeds CZcams...few days after the accident here in Brazil...

  • @Infiniteinterests-l7c
    @Infiniteinterests-l7c Před rokem +4

    Rooster remembers all too well

  • @jf4872
    @jf4872 Před 14 dny +2

    And 'Peaches' had zero time in the Tomcat.

  • @sherwinsalvatori6997
    @sherwinsalvatori6997 Před 27 dny +4

    And Again in 1986 we lost a service man while engaged in training , the pilot was eventually cleared and returned to active service

  • @ColinDyckes
    @ColinDyckes Před 5 dny

    Except 'Rudder opposite' does NOT work on a swept wing configuration, unlike the straight wings of say a Cessna 172, and is the worst thing to do as it will tighten the spin. Power to Idle, Nose down, opposite AILERON. This is because the wing roots stall first on a swept wing, not the tips. This is from official recovery procedures!

  • @helpful5539
    @helpful5539 Před 9 dny

    I thought the training was how to eject as they say if you lose engines in a flat spin you are probably done

  • @ilovemitaka
    @ilovemitaka Před rokem +4

    Lol that was entertaining

  • @thatairplaneguy
    @thatairplaneguy Před dnem

    lol, media has never not over dramatized have they?

  • @kenton6098
    @kenton6098 Před 9 dny

    I don't think a T-38 trainer can imitate a Mig. What is the aircraft at 1:23? I thought it was a Mig 21 at first but the photos don't match.

    • @rednaughtstudios
      @rednaughtstudios Před 8 dny

      Mirage or one of the Israeli variations.

    • @sparrowlt
      @sparrowlt Před 6 dny

      Its a Kfir C2.. the USN operated a few for some tome as F-21 Lion as agressor.. they sim well the early MIG-23 vaiants and delta wing jets of the period

  • @johannesschmidt9580
    @johannesschmidt9580 Před 7 dny

    Why does he scream into the microphone?

  • @billydeewilliams9104
    @billydeewilliams9104 Před 27 dny +2

    Robotech!!

  • @bgflights4044
    @bgflights4044 Před rokem +7

    There’s no way this guy was doing this

    • @mamarussellthepie3995
      @mamarussellthepie3995 Před rokem +10

      Back then? Yeah
      Now'a days? Nah especially not cnn xd

    • @sightline4004
      @sightline4004 Před rokem +1

      @@mamarussellthepie3995 What does CNN have to do with anything?

    • @mamarussellthepie3995
      @mamarussellthepie3995 Před rokem +6

      @@sightline4004 Cnn used to do things like this all the time back when this film was made to become popular and to draw in viewers.
      Unfortunately for cool tv spots everywhere, they do less and less and less things like this and thats rly sad lol xd

    • @Nghilifa
      @Nghilifa Před 6 měsíci

      I'm pretty sure I heard in the video that the guy (reporter) was also a pilot himself.@@mamarussellthepie3995

    • @tn8402
      @tn8402 Před 28 dny +1

      Sure seems like he did

  • @chopper_875
    @chopper_875 Před rokem +17

    one like to this comment = 1 salute to goose

  • @romeobravo78
    @romeobravo78 Před 7 dny +3

    Back when CNN was watchable

  • @doubletripplep
    @doubletripplep Před 10 dny

    The key to avoiding flat spins is to not fly through jet wash. She failed to mention this.

    • @johnbarnes7706
      @johnbarnes7706 Před dnem +1

      Maverick had the cleanest plane in the Navy. He went through the jet wash twice.

  • @steveottavaino3804
    @steveottavaino3804 Před 24 dny +1

    Wow you know Peaches is a spinner going in.

  • @68orangecrate26
    @68orangecrate26 Před 8 dny

    At some point, nobody’s gonna care that a female, or whatever, did anything. So tired of people that don’t want special treatment, but actually want special treatment.

  • @ReptileRescue
    @ReptileRescue Před 7 dny

    Spin recovery is pretty much the same for any fixed wing. It doesn't particularly matter in which order you do the things, but that you do them all, one after another without delay, which is practically all at once. Throttle back, opposite rudder, aileron neutral or into the spin (aircraft type specific), stick forward. Recover from dive when yaw stops.
    And if in the off chance something is broken and none of that is working, your impact with terrain or water is imminent, and your jump out handle isn't working or you don't have one...throw a Hail Mary and jam the throttles to the firewall and kick rudder into the spin, and neutral elevator or slight aft stick. The increase in rotational spin will flatten the nose down attitude and also slow vertical descent slightly because the aircraft just became a rotor blade. No guarantees, but maybe, just maybe, if you hit water or soft or sloped ground, the impact speed might be low enough that you survive. Maybe 1-5% chance, but it's a chance. Probably broken neck or spine, head trauma, but it's a better chance than hitting the ground at a faster vertical speed, with nose down attitude if you don't have altitude for the full recovery to develop. It would be worse at low altitude to convert all of that yaw into nothing more than a 30*-60* dive and end up a lawn dart hoping you can pull the nose above the horizon without causing an accelerated second stall. Mostly though, at low altitude, everyone panics and pulls back on the stick/yolk and ends themselves because their brain short circuits because they haven't practiced spin recovery enough, like the twin prop commuter in Brazil that spun in about a month ago. They almost had spin recovery with the nose down and yaw stabilized but then entered a second departure/spin because aft stick was too aggressive. Probably didn't have altitude to save it by then either, but they kept pulling aft stick until they hit the ground, and that was obvious from the video.

  • @omalzmed6501
    @omalzmed6501 Před 2 lety +2

    Eagles Can TEACH YOU to RECOVER the Flight😆😆😆

  • @silverdrillpickle7596
    @silverdrillpickle7596 Před 26 dny

    Who’s paying for all this???

    • @johno9507
      @johno9507 Před 22 dny +1

      Deficit spending.

    • @matejfele9971
      @matejfele9971 Před 13 dny +1

      Money printer.

    • @arcanondrum6543
      @arcanondrum6543 Před 13 dny

      That's easy, the "hate Gubment", "hate Taxes" crowd that rubs out to Airshows where most of the new stuff never replaces the old stuff. It's called the MIC and while the "hate Taxes" crowd NEVER runs the numbers, the MIC drains the General Fund (whereas Social Security is funded by it's own Tax; the "Payroll Tax" or FICA on your paystub). Then compare price tags to S.S. benefits. The MIC lies to Americans.
      Don't get me started on "Stealth". No one seems to wonder how rain and snow can't hide but big aircraft can?

    • @martingrof1685
      @martingrof1685 Před 13 dny +2

      I think a better question is would we even be here if non of this existed? If you haven't noticed, most of the world isn't very nice. Yes, protecting a nation is expensive.

  • @Themheals
    @Themheals Před 28 dny +2

    The spins are recoverable. The pilots are terrible. Peaches is the problem with spin recovery.

    • @nathanexplosion878
      @nathanexplosion878 Před 22 dny +9

      How many hours of spin recovery training have you had? How many have you taught? What, specifically, is she saying that's wrong?

    • @foofghtr
      @foofghtr Před 13 dny

      @@nathanexplosion878
      I only know one Peaches, his real name is Peter Chisholm.
      Dissect that…
      Fukin classic

    • @kenton6098
      @kenton6098 Před 9 dny

      @@nathanexplosion878 When people who know what they're talking about say that someone is wrong, they usually say why. You don't have to ask them.