Manor Lords Early Access Review - This will be amazing when finished.
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- This game is so good at what it does I literally think it would be near impossible to screw it up between early access and full release.
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1 guy making a game that has more interest than a lot of Triple A games says it all. Leave it to the Indie/Double A devs to carry the industry.
Yep, gamers don’t care who has built the game.. we just want quality games. Their big name companies don’t mean shit anymore if they’re pushing out stuff that we don’t want or like
He doesn't do it by himself, a lot of freelancers were hired.
It's never just 1 guy, I don't know why anyone could possibly believe these games when they say "Made by 1 dev!!"
Don't they have 130 people doing QA? I heard he signed with a publisher so I don't think it is a 1 person effort.
yeah imagine if we all just like not bought the new ubisoft game. I would laugh at ubisoft.
Something I never touched on in the review, mainly because I did cover it in my last Manor lords video is the sheer immersion that you get from play the game. Things like raising an army of farmers, bakers, blacksmiths, berry pickers etc and marching in formation with them for miles to a battle. After the battle with bodies everywhere your men walk home and as they enter their province they disband and all walk back to their jobs in dribs and drabs, it looks awesome.
Then you plant a tiny settlement, a tent and some basic rations and start a brand new colony, you defend it with your main army which could be miles away from the inevitable bandit attacks. It all comes together in such a cool way it’s impossible not to be impressed, I can’t wait for the full release, if the dev reads this please take your time :)
you should give Songs of Syx a shot! It's a nice little city/state builder! also has a free demo
@@Vaati-s9v +1, Songs of Syx is possibly the greatest city builder ever made and it's made by one dude.
@@Vaati-s9v Only a small download for the demo as well, thanks for the tip.
@@bigdunc1313 what's wrong? I don't care.
The graphics are horrific. Turned me off @@Vaati-s9v
You can really tell that this one guy had a sole idea, and he did not want anybody to ruin it. And I think it came out perfect! Pretty much what all us old RTS players wanted, yet never got, because there were too many chefs in the kitchen.
theres no strategy involved. its literally just a more feature complete version of banished.
@@DJsharp707incredibly impressive especially the historical accuracy. Nothing like it.
@@raskolnikov6443 like what exactly?
@@DJsharp707 Everything from the armor your troops use to the beehives and houses have been screened by historians for the sake of historical accuracy.
@@DJsharp707 Did you come just for the wine?
This and kingdom come deliverance 2 this year we are eating good for medieval games!
And they aren't cookie cutter either - nothing more annoying than "yet another generic medieval/WWII/civil war/etc. game" that looks like it's going to be good and turns out to be the same old ideas rehashed yet again. Gotta be thankful when we get quality stuff like this, KC:D, M&B: Bannerlord, because they're always the exceptions unfortuantely.
I wouldn't mind seeing Henry and Hans having camoes in Manor Lords xD
Jesus Christ be praised!
Czech and Polish have pretty similar past. It would be pretty nice if they made some collaboration Warhorse and Slavic Magic.
@@RyTrapp0 bannerlord was pretty weak if i'm honest
This feels old school in scope, lack of "streamlining" and how it just takes its time. Love it.
Mac, thanks for highlighting this game years ago as a demo you played. I wishlisted it ever since and now looking forward to Fridays early release.
Much love.
Same I’m bloody working till 9pm too 🤣🤣 might have to pull a sick day for “mental issues” 😅
@@audiblechocolate2653 Addiction is a mental issue :-) I'm guessing I won't get much rehearsal done tomorrow either. I'm in the UK so it drops here at 2pm. So I best cram it in in the morrow. For verily I will be a lord by sunset.....
One Man…7 Years… I’m still trying to wrap my head around that.
I think it's called a job. You get them when you grow up.
@@Malc180swhat are you waffling about
Could be in early access another 7 years
and the game is still incomplete.
What’s difficult to understand?
The city inventory goods aspect could be fixed by having your lord have his own inventory.
Like you needing to compensate the merchants for their stock of weapons before having the weapons sent out to the other town.
Ideally I'd like a more realistic setup where the lord's resources is split from the wider village resources.
The lord getting his resources through contracts with his subjects or purchases.
Ex: Choosing that the smiths give you gold or a portion of their weapons produced as their tax.
The lord having to save up gold or stockpiling items like stone, or buying items from the village inventory in order to use these for "state" or personal projects like castles, walls, armies, and special buildings.
One Man…7 Years. Can anyone remind me how many people and how much time it took for Ubisoft's Skull and Bones, and Activisions MW2, both of which felt like early access games when they released as full games?
Yes, but you forget these are quadruple A games. This one is not. So it should be wayless work. ;)
We need to make this dev a millionaire
With 2 million wish lists, he's bound to be one
You haven't even played the game yet... What are you talking about. This circlej*rk is too much.
Game seems good though.
tomorrow he'll probably be one
@@devrussoI'd bet my butt that the game will be good, but yeah, considering how WAB and his fans are usually overcritical and pretend to be anti-hype to the point of cringe all the hollering is interesting to see. A tad sus even.
@@KarlTheExpert Sus? Or perhaps the excitement is because most games are terrible nowadays. A one man band producing something better than an entire dev team is amazing.
This video is extremely generous with the game, even considering it's Early Access.
Was disappointed to find so much lacking in the game. There absolutely are game breaking bugs. This game is not entirely playable as is. It does show great promise but there are a lot of core mechanics that still need fleshing out and balancing. It's not just missing advanced features.
For example, keeping track of what jobs are currently being worked and moving people to where you need them is a nightmare. You start with 5 families (each count as a worker-unit). But there are maybe 10 different buildings they could potentially be working in. And if there's nothing to do at a building, they just idle with no warning or indication. You spend most of the game searching for idle workers so you can move them to something else. But there's no screen to actually see who is working where. You just have to hold TAB and scan the buildings for the ones that have workers, deallocate there, and allocate them in another building. But you have to leave some unassigned so anything can be built. It's so frustrating. And it's not entirely clear if certain jobs actually need a worker. Like do I absolutely need a storehouse worker? When? Does the hitching post need a worker to guide the ox? Seems not because anyone can do it, apparently, but it's an option. Why?
And farming seems totally broken. My second year my crops just seemed to evaporate after/during harvesting, leaving me set for a very difficult winter.
Trade is way more confusing than this video lets on. Like some things need dedicated trade routes, but others don't? Why? What do horses do, why do I need them? When do I need them? How do they help trade?
The Marketplace in the game is also very confusing. Like do families just not get stuff they need if it isn't in the stalls? Who exactly is responsible for stocking the stalls in the marketplace? Is it the producer or the storehouse worker? It's frustrating to technically have the resources but the households won't use them unless they make it to the marketplace. They won't go to the storehouse/granary.
And the approval rating. That just seems to shift arbitrarily. It will say +4 for food diversity one month and then +1 another even though my food types are the same. I'll have a ton of firewood but then houses will complain about no fuel. It makes no sense. It has something to do with marketplace stalls, but I don't know how or when they are stocked. Do they have to be manned to function? There's no marketplace job.
Go fucking do a better job yourself then. Jesus christ people do nothing but moan these days.
To be honest I had some of the same questions as you - most of the stuff I worked out after about 2 games. My suggestion is: those things you don't get, just look up on google and you'll find an answe 100% of times
I used to be a city-builder like you, but then I took a Cities Skylines II to my SSDee.
I understood that reference.
not a bad one, congrats
@@jonevansauthor want a trophy?
Bruh 😂
8:20 I disagree, I'm very excited how the game handles the trading between settlements.
They tried to go for authenticity in how medieval settlements would function, so while gifting could be done and maybe they'll find a way to implement it later, I love the idea that by default the villages have to actually trade between eachother on what they need, even if you're their Lord. Because it doesn't put you into an almighty God of the lands and puts you into more of a managing, ruling entity instead.
Exactly, it's feudalism, not fascism.
I thought the same, would be too simple otherwise and not rewarding.
The way the game is at the moment it makes little to no difference as it's easy. When the Ai map opponents arrive it will be a totally unbalanced situation if they keep the barter system, it's not a simple case of here is 1 x flour give me 1 x sword, it is way harder than that to get a deal going, it took me an hour or real time just to get a few weapons as my starter town had hardly any resources to trade that were of value. So all I did was buy a shit load from the trader as I had plenty of money from selling berries, it made the bartering system utterly pointless. Money is easy to get in this game so why spent hours trying to barter with neighbours that will take ages to get you the weapons you need when you can buy them quickly from the traders. I am sure when they test this with map based Ai lords they will realise the current system is insufficient and will tweak it.
@@WorthABuyreviews ah I see the problem. I feel like that might come down to balancing with prices then? They just need to make it more viable to trade between your villages as it is now, and make it more expensive to import from elsewhere.
I don't usually jump into early access stuff, but every single video I've watched of someone playing this makes me want it even more. From what I've seen of let's play videos, this game is more polished than a lot of official big budget releases these days. I will definitely be picking this up to show my support for what they have accomplished so far. The game just looks gorgeous!
It’s more still a demo mate, will take years before its even close to 1.0
Only reviewer I genuinely trust. Glad he was able to play this early
Yeah yeah, I think we're all a little bored of seeing this exact same comment over and over in every video he posts
Hopefully he will hire some full time developers to work with him. 8 people could see a amazing game in 1 year. Being the most wish Listed game on steam and getting an Xbox game pass deal. This could be a incredible franchise. Something between total war, age of empires and bannerlord. Keep it small scale for now then the second one really expand on the idea
Reminds me a lot of Banished, great game. This one looks even better, it's on my wishlist.
The modding scene could be really fantastic
Any word on mod-ability?
@@Bishop1664 I believe not initially, but later. (dunno if during EA or at full release)
But it had been confirmed to some degree at least I'm sure
@@Bishop1664 I am hearing the same as cgo. Not for a while but eventually. I hope sooner than later.
Today I learned linen is from a thing called flax
you can actually spin flax if you're on the lunar spell book
Learned this from Runescape
Learned that from Medieval Dynasty
The egyptians made a lot of linen, grew lots of flax, Irish linen is supposed to be the best, I prefer linen to cotton, get some linen sheets and feel the quality.
Learned this from "Dawn of Man"
I have not bought game for years…it deserves every of my pennies.And i really wish that the developer hear your voice in this video because it was very constructive for them
Was very disappointed in this. If it was $20 then sure maybe worth a buy but its so barebones and buggy in current state. It makes me wonder if all these youtubers got a different version of the game than was released. I have no doubt if the developer sticks with it then it will be great one day but for $50 Canadian dollars this is definitely not worth a buy. Games like songs of syx are currently free (the demo is free and is the complete game just one version behind the most up to date) and provide far more content and updates than Manor Lords currently has. The game is vastly overhyped and I wish I had refunded the game after 2 hours before I locked in paying almost full price for a very early access title. Bit disappointed in Mac since he is my go-to guy for spending my hard earned dollars on games these days and I refuse to believe that he didn't notice the numerous issues with this game. It was a huge red flag when the developer refused to advertise the price before the game was available to buy.
Ya the price seems a bit steep, especially here in Canada (everything is expensive, plus add tax to the online purchase). I'm trying to decide on either this or Ostriv (a game that mac previewed a few years back) which is alot less money and seems to have all the features (minus combat) that this game has.
Wow... Your words are word for word my exact thoughts. Gonna add one thing, though: good thing it didn't launch at 20 because I would of followed the hype and bought it. From what I've seen it IS really early early stages. Almost a showcase of what it will be. I might even buy it, but waaaay down the road.
Most players are forgetting the fact that It’s not a finished product, which is why I didn’t buy it.
Still I think it’s a good game ( for what it is)
Game developers from Poland always give good quality
Ahhh, 7 years, one guy.
Hey, Starfield.... 😏👉
How many interesting areas did Starfield have? Not many in my eyes. How many annoying characters did it have? 90%?
Yeah, in fairness though, when you are one guy you follow your own ideas, not someone elses.
All these comments, each more excessive than the last, are still damn ridiculous... but it's normal today, we must always be in extremes and exaggeration, without the slightest hindsight.
It has absolutely no connection with Starfield, but I imagine it's good to put out this kind of sentence like a sheep following what the troupe says.
And the developer didn't make the whole game alone...
But I imagine it's more salesy to say that and spread false information
@@nawack2774, the point of my comment is referring to the fact that Bethesda claimed they'd worked hard on Starfield for 7 years. So, yes, there is a connection if you're up to date with the gaming industry.
But, my pronounces...
Currently the most wishlisted item on steam and deserves it!
That's the most positive review I can recall Mack making. City builders are not my thing but personally I enjoy the thumbs up videos more than the thumbs down ones; bad games are just not worth wasting much time on.
There is nothing more valuable in the universe than your time. Wasting time playing badly designed or implemented games is not a good use of your time.
Great review I've been waiting since 2019 and i can believe its finally here in a couple days!
I think it's worth a buy, but what price? $25-ish = yes; $50-ish = no, for me.
It will be interesting to see what price they come up with.
30 bucks.
Currently $30 (US) with a 25% discount; $40 later.
I feel you're a bit premature blowing your load saying this is one of the greatest games ever made.... (10:55 ish)
Sure its good, but there's CURRENTLY 1 map, tonnes of missing features that will take ages to fix/implement (like where is the AI?) , stuff greyed out which as you say we don't know how it'll be implemented yet and some issues with existing features.
My hope is ii all gets resolved, fixed and completed to the same standard which may then be the best of the genre ever but to blow your wad this early on it Mac... it's like you've not had good one in a while and are overcompensating hehe
The thing you described at about 8 minutes, where you couldn't have one of your towns "rip off" another one, sounds like one side of a coin. The other side of that same coin has plagued Ostriv for years. In Ostriv, there is this whole mechanical system where the villagers get paid to do work and then buy stuff at the market as well as paying you rent...but they're such perfect little rational agents that they won't buy anything they don't actually need. So the solution to this amazing idea for a system is to set all the prices and all the wages as low as possible, so that as little money actually circulates in the settlement as possible. Then you just handle trade with other places (which you don't run in that game) in a central manner. It doesn't really make sense.
Also, I really love to hear of a "genuinely early access" game (some games should really just call their first release 1.0 instead) coming out that's got a bunch of stuff implemented and a bunch of other stuff with a place actually carved out for it. What's already there in this sounds pretty solid but where it looks like this is going is just stunning.
Can't help but agree, this game is special. Full of soul and an obvious passion project refined to a masterpiece. 💞✌😊👍
I'm counting days since the first video you released about this game, until release,
Can't wait for it. I wasn't hyped about any game in years.
The dev was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!
Someone highlight this comment immediately!!
Great review, can’t wait to finally play this. It’d be awesome but if the game wasn’t built with multiplayer in mind that could absorb tons of future dev effort. Part of me would rather ensure expanded military, city battles, etc like you mentioned beforehand to make it the perfect single player game of this type. But in a perfect world I’d also like both :)
It has not been ONE GUY for a while now. The last few years there was a team. And I hope the team grows. Because I'm not really down for Early Access any more these days.
this WAB is perfect proof that mack is fair. couldve gone like "f that, full of bugs, its a cashgrab", but 1 guy, 7 years of dedicated work, that gets you respect and support.
Why/how is being able to place multiple garrisons a bug?
Surely the goal is to create many garrisons to raise an army, and the more soldiers you have the more resources they cost to maintain.
The problem with Manor Lords, like all other early-access games, with every upcoming update/patch, they cater to the fan base and make game less challenging/easier. This reduces it to the point of no-challenge unplayability (pretty much like most other releases of this day).
Not me drooling over them cloth physics
I like the fact that battles are not the focus of this game.
I think you're just a sucker for medieval games. You first said this was one of the best games ever made and now you are changing your tune.
Love the video mack, been a long time viewer. remember your DAYZ days. hope all is well.
Just started playing it. It's a really good city builder with management options relating to trade and taxes, plus seasons and harvesting and number of families present in your settlement. You need to grow your settlement and then think about defending it plus claiming other regions, which is crucial because resources will exhaust in time.
I would have liked more buildings and more resource options but for now it will suffice, given it's early access. I can't expect it to have the amount of content the Anno franchise boasts. Looking forward to updates and to the finished product. I think this game is unique in that it blends city building with army tactics
It’s coming to consoles too which is crazy
This reminds me very much of Stronghold, and the combat reminds me a little of Kingdom Under Fire Heroes (although I'm not sure the depth of controlling your Lord).
I hope the development continues to go well. Stronghold Crusader's is a classic but this looks like a true evolution.
I thought it had more available , the game is great but it has 1/4th off the content in the current build but has now a solid foundation.
Unfortunately i refunded it , there is barely anything to do after you are kinda done with city building a fight or two on a small map with bandits and a baron it will take another 2 - 3 years in the oven but in the meantime i will hold off untill then.
When this makes Slavic magic a millionaire overnight, don’t be surprised if it never gets finished. This is the problem with early access, lots of unfinished games out there.
We should be entitled to maybe 50% refund if the game never gets finished. Maybe steam should enforce a 3 year early access window and if the game isn’t finished refund everyone 50%?
Glad you got a game you really like Mack. Thanks for the video
Been following this since it was announced. I'm honestly so happy to see slavicmagic get credit
great to see a cc ity builder that doesnt suck!
gotta wait a few months to see how it fares and then probably get it. dem indie devs nowadays are the true gems in the gaming industry!
My number one trusted source for game reviews. You've saved me many dollars over the years. I hope your channel continues growing!
I see some ghosting behind things as they move. Is that the game, or is that from DLSS/FSR? It's particularly noticeable at 8:47 if you watch the NPC in grey closest to the player character.
probably FSR
For the record, Skull and Bones was in development for 11 years by a AAA studio. Sorry I meant quadruple-A
Super pumped! Been a long few months waiting for it and im not gonna lie, i'm super jealous of all you content creators playing it early!
Gaming since 79.
Just informational
3:56 first time Settlers is mentioned...
Actually it’s 3:57
@@paulianhodgson darn it, fixed! ;)
got a 4770k/1080ti - thinking of getting this , hope old bessie can keep the fps up :D
I can’t wait to play it tomorrow Mac I have been wating since the last public test.
The release date is supposed to be the 26th, isn't it? Or did they change it?
I appreciate that natural look and realistic palette, like with the distant fields at 5:20
A lot of games seem boosted with glossy colours or 'cartoonish' atmosphere like Civ 6 even Aoe 4
I'd love to see co-op/multiplayer added into this game as it would be amazing for roleplaying.
I'm surprised Mack hasnt got into game development himself. He seems to have some good ideas.
One man, 7 years which is incredible! How noob friendly is this game? I’ve never played city builders before
It seems pretty simple, you need to develop a build routine for the start and then options will open up but it will not be super complex.
I've been waiting for your worth a buy on this game, great summary as always defo getting this on Friday 👍
The only thing i want in this game is be able to get weapons for yourself and fight with your people. It would be the best mount and blade like experience. Its fine right now, but imagine it.
Looks like a gem. Can't wait.
Pretty old school. When devs (dev in this case) did it because they loved the craft and wanted to be proud of the result. Remember those days? Thanks Mac.
Mack becoming Jeremy Clarkson lol
1 Developer: Yep! Its about the CEO's goal. This one's is for a quality game, not pumping out money makers. Im working on my first solo dev title myself.
This can be first RTS from veeery long time we all will be able to call ICONIC. Like settlers, like Age of Empires, Stronghold, C&C, and similar. This will be a next milestone of the genre
Sandbox not possible because of the endless victory screen bug.
High praise coming from Mack 👍
I understand it's a good game, yet the fact is that there are still many things missing or things that have to be fixed. When I want to play a game, I want to play one that's finished. I don't have time, or the motivation, to deal with unfinished games. That's why I stopped playing early access games altogether.
I'm definitely going to visit this again in the future when it's fully released.
Mack is the guy who would buy early access car to support the car manufacturer and find out later the AC not working and RPM are bugged.
A deep medieval city builder with total war-esque combat? Definitely on my wish-list. Amazing to think this is one man's passion project putting AAA development to shame.
It's amazing what one man can do where massive companies seem to struggle.
The bar was on the floor but this man leapt over the moon!
Its a solid city builder for sure. It needs some work but it definitely is going in the direction of one of the best ever made.
It is worth, in a year or two though, not now.
I generally avoid early access. I made exceptions for Bannerlord II and Satisfactory. I'm about to make another exception. Looking forward to it! Woo.
I only wish it was harder or like more options for difficulty. best game ive played all year
Great review as always. How much does the game cost now in early access?
Thanks Mack for the input!
Got this game after watching Macs video, its been a lot of fun. What are some other good city builders that have combat ? Last game i played like this was Warcraft but i loved it.
I'll probably never play this game but it is a nice looking game that has a lot of depth for a solo/indie dev.
I get the feeling this could be the Stardew Valley or Hallow Knight of battle/city builders.
These types of reviews are the epitome of this Chan. When it comes to builders, I value WAB’s opinion over everyone else.
Reminds me of dwarf fortress but simpler. It’s a great game but needs a few things like an overview, more carts for hauling stuff and easier trading etc.
This gives me hope for the gaming industry. The Manor Lords guy is an absolute visionary.
Did you see the User Interface in the video? It looks so good and full of naturally to use functions. Haven't seen a good UI in two decades of this ransacked gargabe industry!
Glad you liked it, can't wait to try it!
“Banthaville” 😂
Industrial area with slums?
Im definitely picking this up over the weekend
Genuinely wish i had the desire and attention span for a city builder
Ubisoft should buy this game from the guy and add microtransastions and DLC content to make the game more easy to get through and complete
I’m relieved. I was hoping for the best for this one. Any single dev working this hard deserves success.
Loved the review, but mack ive gotta say you really need to get an updated GPU. Its going to start throttling the quality of your reviews. Im sure youve heard that many times but i just figured id add to the pile. Cheers
Still have it wish listed - he's in no hurry so neither am I. Perhaps the trade issue could be solved realistically by the Lord 'buying' anything made and 'gifting' it to where the Lord wants it. It would be another opportunity to create influence and also a legitimate reason for taxation.
Can you create a brewing empire? Growing the hops, brewing the beer, and owning some pubs? Serious question
Don't think they have hops, but they have the other things.
So far, apart from the obviously incredible game development skills shown, this has been the easy part for the developer. Developing this amazing EA game in relative peace. Now when the game releases the hard part comes; filtering out all the constructive and non-constructive feedback and staying the course of where he is heading, even with all the money coming in.
If he can do that, I believe this will be amazing and at least as impactful as Banished was 10 years ago, or Settlers 25+ years ago. I wish him all the best and wise decisions in the time coming ahead. He's got my money and support.
Can't wait! Good job Mr. developer!
Mack seems to like it.......Gotta try it out now
If I was that guy who is developing it I would hire at least 2 or 3 people after release of 1.0 to help me de-bug and polish the code a bit :)
I'll be interested in you reviewing two games dude, Kena and Tales of Zau.
We appreciate your honest review. Thanks Mack!