Their honor crush, branded as traitor, some fall to the darkness of their hearts. But those who still continue to fight for The Imperium STILL have more heart then most of those then those who live in it.
Can you imagine how many renegade marines there are out there in the shadows after the two Primarchs were wiped from all Imperial records? For all we know there's a sub-empire in the farthest reaches of the Galaxy, as far from Terra as transhumanly possible, ruled by one or two long lost Primarchs.
Putting aside the fact that they are not technically recognized by any official Imperial agency, would the Legion of the Damned be appropriately classified as 'renegades,' since they fight for the Imperium, but do not answer to any Imperial authority?
If they were to become Recognized they'd probably get their own special one of a kind classification. Consdiering their unique warp powered abilities and blatant immortality.
I would say that The LotD is technically Chaos since they're warp spawned at least by Imperial edict. However, since they do The Emperors work and never stick around for justification, they're technically loyal? Great question.
Nope. Legion of the Damned are daemons. Manifestations of the will of the God-Emperor, created in the warp by sheer scale of humanity's belief in the emperor. Think about it.
May the Soul Drinkers be remembered forever for their continued loyalty to the Emperor even to the point of having the Imperium turn its back on them. Cold and Fast, brothers.
Great video!! Would have loved a mention of the "Ashen Claws" chapter. They have a pretty interesting lore, they even sacked the homeworld of the Night lords! Talk about ballsy!!! Keep up the great work inquisitor. *
A good short story example of Renegades is in the story: "INXAR". Space Marines who became jealous of the likes of the Ultramarines, and the Imperial Guard. In particular that they got to rule worlds directly as kings and lords. That Guardsmen got the "right of settlement" to rule a world that they liberated, and the Ultramarines getting to rule directly the realm of Ultramar. It gives an example of why someone would fall, and also that even as they swear to serve the Emperor, to rule these worlds, that it is considered unacceptable. Giving the counter point from the Chaplain that hunted them down.
Odd note on the Badab War, the short story "Trial of the Mantis Warriors" suggests the reason at least the Mantis Warriors renegaded not over the Administratum, but the Adeptus Mechanicus. That they believed that the Gene-Seed Tithes were involved in some untoward experiment or conspiracy. Edit: Which considering Primaris marines happened and Cawl and such... might not have been an unfounded fear.
The Soul Drinkers got a raw deal especially with the mutations. The Night Lord's of the now I'd consider true Renegade. No mutations, No chaos alignment or worship with death being the consequence of doing so, and fighting simply to survive.
Been playing 40k since early 3rd edition... maybe even 2nd and I still really enjoy these vids. I know most of it but they sometimes make me think of stuff I had forgotten or not thought bout 4 a long time. Plus there jus really cool. Thanks for another great vid.
I love your "For newcommers" videos because even non newcommers can enjoy it and learn plenty of new things Keep it up you're the best Warhammer40k channel out here
How do I learn more about Chimeras? I'm planning a custom chapter with incredibly unstable geneseed and originally wanted to subtly imply they were made with 2nd or 11th legion stock. However, maybe gene-splicing would work better
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Just what on earth did the knights of blood chapter do to have been declared traitors for being 'too exsisive' in the persuit of heritics? In the 40K universe?
they "allegedly" killed too many innocent people. I have played them as my chapter since 5th (and BA for a lot longer than that). when ever you ready the fluff or they are refereed to in a story they are regarded as well disciplined soldiers with an unnerving calm to them. However when other agents talk about them they are betrayed as berserkers and killers. the fact that Dante would have them defend Baal but not other chapter lends weight to my theory as to why they are renegades. I like to think that they got on the wrong side of a corrupted high lord etc and as such they where betrayed and declared renegades. As stated in the video they "died to a man" during the devastation of Baal.. or did they ;)
Angelos's is CM now and spun the tale of how Kyras was chaos tainted and he cut the rot out. They are also vetterd by the Inquisition as "loyal". that is all you need
So... what about certain Dark Angels who, ahem, may have, erm, left the Chapter due to personal differences? I do not wish to imply that the most loyal, most perfect of all the legions have a problem with loyalty, nosireebob.
Is there a renegade equivalent of the Guard? I don't mean the Choas-aligned Traitor Guard, but just Guardsmen who decide "Feth this shit, I'm out. Let's go kill some heretics in OUR name!" Also, can you do a video about the possible relationships between the Guard and Astartes, if any really exist? I've had this idea for my homebrew Chapter that they'd have a close relationship with the Guard unit in their nearest vicinity, even helping them train and having a battalion of rotating "Chapter Guard" assisting the serfs in defense of their fortress-monastery.
While I had suggested in a previous video that maybe Sigmar is the 2nd Legion's Primarch sent by the Emperor to the realm of Fantasy to defeat Chaos in that dimension, there were rumors that Archaon was supposed to be the Primarch of the 11th Legion. Whether he joined Chaos to stop SIgmar, or maybe was also sent by the Emperor to subvert Chaos from within, is not known. What do you of this hypothesis? Is this worth a video just to add to the intrigue to what happened to them? I am sure many viewers would be inspired to give their takes on the subject, including those who believe they were simply destroyed, or exiled.
Could you do a timeline video of sorts. As of recently I discovered 30k which I was unaware of. I got into Warhammer 40k because of the Horus Heresy book and thought everything was 40k. But what is 30k? I'm starting to get list in the lore as far as how events unfolded.
Hey Remleiz, while the Alpha Legion is conidered one of the Traitor Legions, does it make more sense that they are Renegades? As the lore has shown, they never entered the Eye of Terra, nor has any of their number show any Mutations that the other Legions exhibit. They joined Horus on the Cabal's prediction that the Imperium would survive only by joining Horus. But now that the twin Primarchs dead, the Legion is now divided into warbands and are nothing more than pirates. If it was Chaos' plan to turn this Legion from the Emperor's side, do you believe there's any way the Legion can rejoin the Imperium and make Chaos pay for their deception? Finally, would the Night Lords also be considered Renegades for the same reason as those for the Alpha Legion?
In regards to the Alpha Legion, following the Horus Heresy the Alpha Legion would initially remain and battle within real space, though after the battle upon Eskrador (which saw the death of 'Alpharius') many Alpha Legion warriors fled into the eye while others remained hidden in real space. Those Alpha Legion warbands close to the Eye of the Maelstrom will still sometimes make use of Daemonic entities, though those further afield will not due to how unreliable maintaining daemons can be. Plus there have been Alpha Legion daemon princes (such as Voldorius or Sindri)
how dare you..... soul drinkers are not renegades they fought to the last with the Imperial Fists and only 3 survived Luko, Graevus, and Sarpedon they chose to walk into the warp gate to purge all chaos till death.
The voice isn't the issue, your equipment is. The recording sounds flat and without any acoustic body. To be honest, it reminds me of a recording which was not only completely stripped of it's base line but has it's height also be stretched/raised. Horrible post production :(
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Don't apologize to us about your voice. The omnissiah is disgusted with your unaugmented flesh box.
Their honor crush, branded as traitor, some fall to the darkness of their hearts. But those who still continue to fight for The Imperium STILL have more heart then most of those then those who live in it.
Can you imagine how many renegade marines there are out there in the shadows after the two Primarchs were wiped from all Imperial records? For all we know there's a sub-empire in the farthest reaches of the Galaxy, as far from Terra as transhumanly possible, ruled by one or two long lost Primarchs.
Putting aside the fact that they are not technically recognized by any official Imperial agency, would the Legion of the Damned be appropriately classified as 'renegades,' since they fight for the Imperium, but do not answer to any Imperial authority?
Great question. If the shoe fits.
that's totally that.
Some speculate that they are in fact some spirit of dead marines whoo have been reborn as Big E "Demons".
If they were to become Recognized they'd probably get their own special one of a kind classification. Consdiering their unique warp powered abilities and blatant immortality.
I would say that The LotD is technically Chaos since they're warp spawned at least by Imperial edict. However, since they do The Emperors work and never stick around for justification, they're technically loyal? Great question.
Nope. Legion of the Damned are daemons. Manifestations of the will of the God-Emperor, created in the warp by sheer scale of humanity's belief in the emperor. Think about it.
May the Soul Drinkers be remembered forever for their continued loyalty to the Emperor even to the point of having the Imperium turn its back on them.
Cold and Fast, brothers.
Great video!! Would have loved a mention of the "Ashen Claws" chapter. They have a pretty interesting lore, they even sacked the homeworld of the Night lords! Talk about ballsy!!! Keep up the great work inquisitor. *
Aren't the Ashen Claws the OG renagade chapter?
Love this series. Keep it up Inquisitor friend.
A good short story example of Renegades is in the story: "INXAR". Space Marines who became jealous of the likes of the Ultramarines, and the Imperial Guard. In particular that they got to rule worlds directly as kings and lords. That Guardsmen got the "right of settlement" to rule a world that they liberated, and the Ultramarines getting to rule directly the realm of Ultramar. It gives an example of why someone would fall, and also that even as they swear to serve the Emperor, to rule these worlds, that it is considered unacceptable. Giving the counter point from the Chaplain that hunted them down.
Odd note on the Badab War, the short story "Trial of the Mantis Warriors" suggests the reason at least the Mantis Warriors renegaded not over the Administratum, but the Adeptus Mechanicus. That they believed that the Gene-Seed Tithes were involved in some untoward experiment or conspiracy.
Edit: Which considering Primaris marines happened and Cawl and such... might not have been an unfounded fear.
Thanks for the lore bro
The Soul Drinkers got a raw deal especially with the mutations. The Night Lord's of the now I'd consider true Renegade. No mutations, No chaos alignment or worship with death being the consequence of doing so, and fighting simply to survive.
Been playing 40k since early 3rd edition... maybe even 2nd and I still really enjoy these vids. I know most of it but they sometimes make me think of stuff I had forgotten or not thought bout 4 a long time. Plus there jus really cool. Thanks for another great vid.
I love your "For newcommers" videos because even non newcommers can enjoy it and learn plenty of new things
Keep it up you're the best Warhammer40k channel out here
Is it me, or have space marines become more human with each edition?
they were more or less already human if you read most 40k and HH novels, it's just not neccesely a side a one would ushually see
How do I learn more about Chimeras? I'm planning a custom chapter with incredibly unstable geneseed and originally wanted to subtly imply they were made with 2nd or 11th legion stock. However, maybe gene-splicing would work better
I would Pay Real money if GW made a Kids show or an video game series called "the moma wraithseer and the 8 squats" featuring a wraithseer mom, 7 squat sons and the lovable tarantula turret as the new family member, SERIOUSLY I WANT IT CANNON
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Dude; I love the way you pronounce "Astartes". Your narrations are great!
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I'm considering becoming a Renegade Space Marine
Just what on earth did the knights of blood chapter do to have been declared traitors for being 'too exsisive' in the persuit of heritics? In the 40K universe?
they "allegedly" killed too many innocent people. I have played them as my chapter since 5th (and BA for a lot longer than that). when ever you ready the fluff or they are refereed to in a story they are regarded as well disciplined soldiers with an unnerving calm to them. However when other agents talk about them they are betrayed as berserkers and killers. the fact that Dante would have them defend Baal but not other chapter lends weight to my theory as to why they are renegades. I like to think that they got on the wrong side of a corrupted high lord etc and as such they where betrayed and declared renegades. As stated in the video they "died to a man" during the devastation of Baal.. or did they ;)
"Strength of will, courage of will!"
I love your old intro, but with all these new 40K cinematics, I would love to see a new intro made from them
We need a "primars" version of the intro
You should do a video with Arch and Leutin.
No mention of Angelos' Renegade Blood Ravens after Kyras branded them traitors? Shame.
Technically they were still loyalists as opposed to renegades while the remainder of the chapter had turned traitor
Angelos's is CM now and spun the tale of how Kyras was chaos tainted and he cut the rot out. They are also vetterd by the Inquisition as "loyal". that is all you need
@@40KTheories Yeah, I suppose that distinction does make it different. I guess my Angelos bias blinded me to that.
So... what about certain Dark Angels who, ahem, may have, erm, left the Chapter due to personal differences? I do not wish to imply that the most loyal, most perfect of all the legions have a problem with loyalty, nosireebob.
Is there a renegade equivalent of the Guard? I don't mean the Choas-aligned Traitor Guard, but just Guardsmen who decide "Feth this shit, I'm out. Let's go kill some heretics in OUR name!" Also, can you do a video about the possible relationships between the Guard and Astartes, if any really exist? I've had this idea for my homebrew Chapter that they'd have a close relationship with the Guard unit in their nearest vicinity, even helping them train and having a battalion of rotating "Chapter Guard" assisting the serfs in defense of their fortress-monastery.
The Relictors, that chapter is a mix of Ultrasmurfs and Dark Angels, isn't it?
Good guy Soul-Drinkers. Wrongly branded as traitors, yet they still do their jobs.
While I had suggested in a previous video that maybe Sigmar is the 2nd Legion's Primarch sent by the Emperor to the realm of Fantasy to defeat Chaos in that dimension, there were rumors that Archaon was supposed to be the Primarch of the 11th Legion. Whether he joined Chaos to stop SIgmar, or maybe was also sent by the Emperor to subvert Chaos from within, is not known. What do you of this hypothesis?
Is this worth a video just to add to the intrigue to what happened to them? I am sure many viewers would be inspired to give their takes on the subject, including those who believe they were simply destroyed, or exiled.
RIP Knights of blood
What about Astartes who are part of rogue traders? ( if any )
It can happen, though I don't know any recorded instance of it happening.
Well from what I've seen and read so far the Legion of the Damned are akin to "Daemonic Manifestations of the Emperor's will ,your thoughts?
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Pirates and marauders you say, the magpies best be careful :D
mitch verr pff...nobody can out steal the ravens.
You mean to tell me there's an entire N'WAH CHAPTER!
Could you do a timeline video of sorts. As of recently I discovered 30k which I was unaware of. I got into Warhammer 40k because of the Horus Heresy book and thought everything was 40k. But what is 30k? I'm starting to get list in the lore as far as how events unfolded.
I could have sworn the Carcharodons were renegade Astartes... or at least highly feared ones.
40k theories do renegade chapter can be recruited as mercanry by xenos or heretics
Yo but where my carcharadon astra at? Not enough lore for them yet???
Don't forget the Ashen Claws as well
Hey Remleiz, while the Alpha Legion is conidered one of the Traitor Legions, does it make more sense that they are Renegades? As the lore has shown, they never entered the Eye of Terra, nor has any of their number show any Mutations that the other Legions exhibit. They joined Horus on the Cabal's prediction that the Imperium would survive only by joining Horus. But now that the twin Primarchs dead, the Legion is now divided into warbands and are nothing more than pirates. If it was Chaos' plan to turn this Legion from the Emperor's side, do you believe there's any way the Legion can rejoin the Imperium and make Chaos pay for their deception? Finally, would the Night Lords also be considered Renegades for the same reason as those for the Alpha Legion?
In regards to the Alpha Legion, following the Horus Heresy the Alpha Legion would initially remain and battle within real space, though after the battle upon Eskrador (which saw the death of 'Alpharius') many Alpha Legion warriors fled into the eye while others remained hidden in real space. Those Alpha Legion warbands close to the Eye of the Maelstrom will still sometimes make use of Daemonic entities, though those further afield will not due to how unreliable maintaining daemons can be. Plus there have been Alpha Legion daemon princes (such as Voldorius or Sindri)
Thanks for that. It's appreciated.
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what about Black dragons? i read thay have been declared dangerous by the inquisition due to their disturbing mutation.
They were never declared as renegade, though they test the tolerance of the inquisition to its limits
how dare you..... soul drinkers are not renegades they fought to the last with the Imperial Fists and only 3 survived Luko, Graevus, and Sarpedon they chose to walk into the warp gate to purge all chaos till death.
Not only are they traitors, but they are also idiots.
"ah I've got spider legs, this is in no way similar to chaos and clearly a gift from the big E"
Nice
Pirate Astartes is a good term for them
What does an astarte do with plunder? °L°
Long Live the 13th!!!!!!!!
There is no misunderstandings in the Imperium. The Imperium is always right and doesn't make mistakes. To say otherwise is Heresy. *BLAM!*
So would The Fallen be considered renegades?
Those are Dark Angels renegades, so yes.
Wait. How does that work? The survivors go into the warp with their honor redeemed? I dont get. Pls enlighten me. :C
You'll need to read their novels ;)
TRAITORS, HERET... uhhh
Forget nothing. Forgive no one.
Could non-astartes join the renegade space marines?
No, the label only applies to Astartes. However, Imperial Guardsmen have gone renegade as well.
This is just the Alpha Legion.
indeed, everything is the Alpha Legion
for the 🅱️emperor.
In a nutshell:....ummmm....I got nothing
All you need to get is that there's a middle ground between loyalist and traitor marines.
@@legionaireb Sooooo Neutral Marines?
@@mercenarygundam1487 more I can do anything the fuck I want Marines
renegades
The voice isn't the issue, your equipment is. The recording sounds flat and without any acoustic body. To be honest, it reminds me of a recording which was not only completely stripped of it's base line but has it's height also be stretched/raised.
Horrible post production :(
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