Boundary Smart Alarm System Install
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Unfortunately Boundary are no longer trading so this video is for historical purposes only. We would recommend getting a security alarm specialist to supply and install the best alarm for your home.
Are you moving towards a full on promotional and endorsement channel ? Surely you could point out the negatives with these also
Yeah "sell out" comes to mind 🤦♂️
Very surprised to see a professional electrician promoting this DIY junk. Monetising and product placement getting out of control.
Jordan great video but like below no mention of the negatives. You fail to mention that with more than two sensors your tied into a monthly subscription. And looking at the set up most house have more than four sensors so that’s an extra £8 a month. With an ADT alarm you don’t have to have a monthly subscription. Huge negative if you ask me. 👍
@@andybenny1 I'm sure "not dwelling on the negatives" was one of the prerequisites for him doing the video and getting paid for doing so.
Drills holes with a screwdriver, drives screws with a drill. :D
I’ve noticed that,a bit lazy in my opinion and you’ll never develop strong wrists and hands as an apprentice so tough when your battery runs out
UPDATE: You DID get robbed, as did I. (Boundary in liquidation)
As usual a very nice video of the installation.
Found it interesting as had a look at wireless alarm systems a few days ago and came to the conclusion as others did that a wired system is superior and the cost if you do the work yourself not much more.
I had my alarm system installed whilst building my house 25 years ago . It once went off in anger and called out the police . Our telephone cable had been cut at the top of our lane. The police thought that the would be burger had cut the cable to see if there was a response.
All went wrong a few months ago when a rat got into the house and found the alarm cables tasty!! Managed to find out how the rat got in and after 25 years can’t sue the relative who did our groundwork’s and forgot to mortar in a waste pipe.
So the question was perhaps a z wave/ Wi-fi system would be better and cheaper than repairing the wired one. A bit of research and decided to invest in a Klein signal generator and take up floor boards. Found the damage and replaced or repaired the 18 cables checking each core pair from device to control cabinet. The one thing I found was that there is no industry standard about which colours of the 8 core alarm cable should be used for what.
Anyway Called out the alarm company I use to reset everything cost £140 and very pleased I stayed with a wired system.
With that sounder not being wired in, you're going to be borrowing an apprentice to hold your ladder annually.
For a second you had me thinking this is why oscar disappeared
Why?
They turned him into an alarm system?
@@JeffsWig 😂😂where do you think the alarm sound comes from
Good video! I do believe it’s better to have at least a hybrid of wired and wireless devices as wireless devices. I do hope the keypad has a battery as someone could unplug it, lastly it’s better to have the brains of the system/main control panel in a hidden area e.g. under the stairs or cupboard.
You've got to pay monthly or only have 2 sensors for free? Paywalling products suck.
Hey, Robin from Boundary here. Thought I’d jump in and cover off why we charge a monthly fee with our systems. It’s really all because of our own experience with products that fall out of support / planned obsolescence. We aren’t a fan of this. When we set out to build Boundary, we targeted a minimum product life of 7 years, as such we want to be able to keep developing our platform, supporting our users and running our cloud infrastructure. Charging a monthly fee makes all this possible. Thanks !
@@robinknox4614 thanks for taking the time to reply, but as you can see from the comments. Real life people just don't want a monthly charge for a new product they have paid for. I have enough of this with the kids apps and in game purchases. If I'm paying £500 for a security system, I don't want to have to pay £10 or £30 a month after. It's just not logical. I'd rather go through the hassle of drilling holes and getting them hooked up to the electrics. Nice idea if you have the spare income, but think about how the customer is most likely already paying for 5/10/15 monthly subscriptions. It's gotta stop at some point. I was in the market for a new alarm system but I think I'll pass on Boundary, only bcos of the paywall.
I have a professionally installed system which is 90% wired (it replaced an existing wired system). It also has a few wireless sensors as we’ve expanded it to 10 zones and full app integration and control without any subscription! Definitely worth paying security experts to deal with alarms.
Absolutely bang on.. These DIY alarms no not meet the criteria.. Without sounding condescending, well done on using a professional Installer. Wired is always a better option too, any reputable installer would always recommend wired where possible or hybrid over wireless.
When did a plug and socket power supply comply with standards for security alarms
Seems to be more common with these DIY Systems. For a system to be proper Grade 2 compliant, the main panel/hub would need a constant, tamper proof power source for instance spurred off of a socket circuit via an un-switched fuse spur or directly from the fuse board. Plugs aren’t tamperproof, even if they are in an un-switched socket, they can still be unplugged. I could be wrong, but I don’t many insurance companies would pay out if you got broken into and you had an alarm system that wasn’t fully up to the standards
Very nice system but I prefer the old fashioned wire to each sender cannot be jammed with scanner. Old is the best for me but it would be I’m 67 years old really look forward to your vlogs all your staff do really great job and you should be very proud of them Jordan
@@husseinj hi that’s nice to know, people thinking ahead about different things people could do to get into your house 🏠 thanks for the answer Allan
@@husseinj Jamming is an issue if someone really want's to target you then you just jam it for long enough that they get fed up and just leave the alarm switched off or disable the anti jamming option (which I've seen people do a lot). But for most people all they're protecting against is ill equipped opportunist thieves and for that you might as well just fit a far cheaper alarm. This alarm seems to be targeting a market that shouldn't exist, people that want an alarm that in some superficial ways will present a challenge to technically competent thieves yet they make it wireless!!!
@@husseinj Exactly but for such a casual thief you don't need an expensive wireless alarm like this. TBH the money would be better spent on a smart doorbell camera and some cameras around the outside, that would make most casual thieves look for an easier target. Alarms for most of the population are a waste of time so if you are going to fit one it might s well be a cheap one. If you're a genuine high risk target then forget wireless alarms, fit a decent wired system. I dealt with someone years ago who was worth a bit and had had threats on his life so he fitted a wireless alarm! He then had no end of trouble with it thinking it was being jammed. I told him his only option if he was serious about protecting him and his family was a proper monitored hard wired alarm (I don't have any vested interests, this was independent free advice).
30 year alarm installer here, I’ll keep it simple - always hard wire intruder alarms, use wireless as a no other option last resort. From the time wireless came out there were issues, it’s 2021 and there’s still issues and I’m talking from market leader brands. Wireless to me equals headaches, full stop.
Took me 2 mins on their website to find that the components communicate at 869.85MHz. A powerful signal at that frequency would jam the communications between the sensors and the hub. The big logo on the sounders is just a big hint to anyone with the know how as to exactly how to jam your particular system. Agree that a wireless system is infinitely more practical than a wired system but if they use one, easily discoverable frequency, then they're incredibly vulnerable.
I'm glad I found your video as I was about to buy a home that didn't have a boundary alarm, but luckily I saw this and found a house with a boundary alarm even though the house cost an extra £20k and was in a bad neighborhood but with this alarm I don't need to worry. Thanks
Glad I could help!
haha you almost got me there Jordan 😂😂😂
As an electrician, I thought you would've installed a good system (Visonic, Pyronix Enforcer, Texecom Ricochet) instead of dodgy smart alarms
As a non electrician, could you explain to me how these systems are better than say Eufy?
@@hks-lion it’s a Diy alarm which is crapppp
@@mrsecurity how come?
@@hks-lion the systems I mentioned are more reliable, more harder to defeat and the insurance company would do more if the house got burgled
@@hks-lion diy systems are so unreliable, easy to defeat and in general, just shit
Installed my own Texecom Premier Elite system a few years ago. Has worked flawlessly ever since. Not a single false alarm or battery change required. I notice Jordan didn't mention battery life or whether there's a monthly subscription fee. My advice, get a proper wired system fitted by a professional installer.
So I have to move furniture, lift carpet, lift one or more large floor sheets and pull off skirting board just to feed a cable through. Then run trunking up a wall or cut a giant channel up the plaster board. Repeat for three floors. Same for hallways. A wired system is just an almighty mess. Huge cost and repairs/redecorating. Possibly new carpet(s) as they do not like being lifted. No thanks.
@@mbak7801 in that case get a reliable wireless system installed, like an enforcer or texecom ricochet. wired is still better in most cases but at least pyronix and texecom cant be bypassed with a cheap signal jammer.
@@mbak7801 you'd be surprised how well an experienced installer can hide cables.
Hey, Robin From Boundary here. I think it’s probably important to say that the Boundary alarm is designed to meet all of the same standards that the other brands mentioned in this thread are certified to and is currently undergoing certification at an independent test lab. Don’t write us off before we’ve started 👍
These guys are absolute cowboys! An alarm system that is ‘plugged’ into a wall socket, sticky-back trunking going down the wall from the keypad… do I need to say more!!
No but please do
What will happen is burglar comes in and just tears the hub off and smash into pieces, would the alarms still receive a signal from sensors?
The problem with alarms nowadays is nobody listens/acts on them because it's just assumed it's a false alarm all the time.
True, but these alert your phone as well.
@@pauledwards9493 if you pay a monthly subscription, which is quite frankly a rip off...
@@zXLuke4efcXz Yes but the monthly fee is 100% peanuts. Before I retired the cheapest monthly fee would take me 5.3 minutes to earn after tax. That is making a cup of coffee and buying a snack from the vending machine and then back to my desk. I really do not think that amount of time is a rip off.
True.. but not worth to put add security system. But I love Nest Security System I see real time video. Thumbs up!
True by the time the owner or police turn up they would have time to nick something of value ,even if there is no alarm they are in and out with something of value
You were in the vestibule when you asked that 🤣
908.42 MHz of z-wave is harder to jam than 2.4ghz from other wireless systems, but it's still very possible! I've made a very powerful 2.4 GHz jammer with a old microwave oven. All you need to do is jam the the communication signal while the robbery is taking place. The fact that the exterior siren says boundary (the brand name) on it, means the attacker knows which frequency to jam. So now you can target houses with this siren outside.
A proper company would have completed a security risk assessment and then designed a system around that, not let's fit what's in the box! I've seen so many poorly installed alarms generally it goes downhill when the design isn't done.
Agreed
Couldn’t agree more
You can't have 4 sensors unless you pay monthly subscription, also wireless alarms can easily be jammed it has been proven.
Yeah…. Strawberry Jam is best 😂
Hey, Robin from Boundary here, we charge a monthly fee to ensure longevity of support for our product. Wireless signals can indeed be jammed but this can be detected and reported to the homeowner, it will also sound the alarm 🚨 should sensors be jammed while armed. Thanks!
Sounds like a great attack vector is to just repeatedly jam the alarm, create a sense of "Product isn't working" and then go for the house then.. when the homeower is tired of the false true detections.
SimpliSafe had the same issue as well. When a Wifi Jammer is just buying an ESP8266 away, a 433 Mhz jammer is just a bolt on extra, and a BT Jammer is also easily to come by.. Why would you not hard wire.
@@alexeastabrook3579 if the alarm is being jammed the system would notify you. But don’t get me wrong, many burglars might try this - and this is why homeowners should be wary of this kind of behaviour. I’d certainly hope that when you get in touch with our amazing CC team (who really are doing a fantastic job) that they’d be able to check out your system logs and alert you to this possibility. 👏
“I’ll just mount this keypad here where we keep all of our keys”🤦♂️
Texecom system all the way for me, made in the UK, competitive pricing and bombproof
Texecom.... Bomb proof?? 🤣🤣🤣
I wouldn’t say that they were bomb proff, but still a very good system.
I think the Pyronix Euro and the Texecom Premier are the best panels out there.
A vestibule is like an indoor porch a entrance lobby if you like
How long will the batteries in the sounder last - not exactly easy to change?
In his next vid, he is going to show us how to blu-tak a solar panel onto a roof.⚠️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Enjoyed the video 👍. I bet the wall next to the front door is going to look like swiss cheese once you start testing different alarm systems 😂.
it will then match the wall behind the charge point.......
Where i can find that cool bit extender you have for your electric screw driver ?
How long do the batteries last? Is it like ring video doorbell, recharge needed every 3 months or so?
This advertisement is missing a banner in the corner that it is one
The sticky tape is not for mounting the motion sensors permanent it’s to hold it to screw it in. Greetings alarm technician from Belgium
Fyi it’s because of the tamper sensor, you can see the mounting plate has little tabs connected if you pull it with screws it wil brake those little tabs and cause a tamper alarm, with sticky tape it’s doesn’t see an tamper alarm if you pull the sensor off the wall
How long do the batteries on the sensors and sirens last?
Come on Ruben, should've used the ladder and went in threw that top back window.
A great system is Ajax. It has the same ethos as Apple, really high-end, well thought out, but no subscription! We install a ton of these and have since stopped using our normal Texe/Scantronic brands as a result.
Yes Ajax, are a top system as well.
Baked by Hikvision I believe.
So cctv integration also easy.
As a security engineer of 33yrs it never ceases to amaze me how much rubbish there is out there now. For a "proper" security system look up your local NSI or SSAIB Approved local company. Good luck Jordan 👍
Hi Ian, Roin from Boundary here. Just to clarify, Boundary is SSAIB approved 👍
@@robinknox4614 a system is not rated to SSAIB as it would need to be installed to SSIAB standereds and comply with minimum of a grade 2 system.
if you was to tell you insurance that you have a SSIAB system installed then had a brake-in and they had this kit you will find they might be picky as i have just pulled a one out after the customer advice the insurance that the system was installed to SSIAB standered. unfortuanly it was DIY installed and they did not pay out
@@MrTamworthaj Hi Aj, Boundary is SSAIB approved as a company, if you take our pro install service, our grade 2 alarm will be installed to these standards - and we now also have the option to apply for URN for police response. All of the info is on our website. Hope that clarifies.
Boundary has ceased operation any other recomandatation for alarm systems
Boundary has gone into administration and have pulled support
And what happens when boundry go bust ? It will stop working.
Let’s stay hopefully the to bust
Far as I know, better than yale and era. But I still need a traditional siren
Already copied you for Drayton Wiser over TCP and Tado
A keypad that plugs in 😂 there is a reason why there are security companies out there that have extensive product knowledge and charge half the price
Hi James, Robin from Boundary here - mains power is required to meet the security standards, as well as 12h backup battery, we chose a plug rather than hardwired to make it easier to fit for our customers who choose to self-install.
@@robinknox4614 why dont you make a seperat keypad/tag reader and then the hub can be placed everywhere?
Like AJAX alarm system?
Kind regards
The Alarm engineer from Denmark
@@jonambirk4389 Hey Jon, thanks for your question! It’s a fair comment, we did think hard about this during our design process and in the end decided to go for a combination rather than create another device. We might look into this again in the future but right now we’re focussed on bringing new feature updates and improvements to our software and also investing in our upcoming machine vision camera product. 🙂
@@robinknox4614 Does a plug in alarm even meet G2? I thought that would be G1?
@@curtismal1726 Thanks for the question. It was a key consideration for us when designing the system and yes it is permitted under EN50131-7 Application Guidelines which states that use of an unswitched socket is permitted for grade 2 installations
Enjoyed watching the video !
What happens if you unplug the keypad? or lose WiFi?
I don't understand how this complies with EN50131? No unswitched fused spur for the main panel.. If fitted at grade 2 the panel will need 12hours secondary power supply for mains fail?
Theres no wonder why any tom dick and harry are installing diy kit on domestic
Got to say the cable management to your Front CCTV is a bit gnarley lol
Mike
As a cctv installer we never have cable on shoe specifically at the front of a property
@@cyberspace1010 Hi, please view from 21.50 into the vid and you will see . Love the content, thx for the reply :)
How long do the batteries last in each of the devices?
@artisan electrics what are your work trousers they look good alot of pockets?
Does it have any form of SIm card backup, should your internet be offline? So it can at least warn you?
Really enjoyed this one 👍🏻 great stuff Jordan, I’ve been watching since the beginning. It’s mad how far you’ve come. Keep going 💪🏻
Thanks a lot!
i prefer the ultimate in german engineering active 24 hours a day nice big GSD
if the hub gets unplugged do the sirens keep going?
I looked at this system but being a smart technology and running off WiFi left a few concerns so I went for a texecom hard wired system with variety of sensors
great video, nice looking system 😎
Hi Jordan. Great looking bit of kit but there is something you need to be made aware of as this will happen to you over a period of time. We find that on our alarm system we have to routinely go around with the vacuum cleaner and clean the sensors where the sensor meets the two walls....Why you ask ?? Spiders like to nest in the cavity at the back of the sensors. Whilst most small thin and tiny spiders are not a problem, the bigger ones are. We have had two instances where the alarm has been set off in error by the slightly larger spider either walking across the sensor or by them coming down a web passing the sensor, thus triggering the alarm. If your alarm is monitored by a monitoring company which ours is along with our CCTV system I installed a few years back, you might end up with that said monitoring company putting you onto a banned list because of two many false alarms. Most Police forces throughout the UK now have policies in place whereby if they are called to a property too many times and find that your alarm system has been set of in error, then after three false alarms to your property they will not be dealt with by Police. When you think a little hairy house spider can cause this much trouble, you and your wife are just better off giving the sensors a clean whenever you get the vacuum cleaner out. It will save false alarms and when your house alarm does go off, your good neighbours are more than likely to call the police on your behalf but if they hear it go off too many times, they will just say, oh its that blasted house again and ignore it when in actual fact it's this time that someone has broken into your house and your neighbours/monitoring company/Police will simply ignore the alarm call. Also to note that if you decided to get a cat or dog, they too can set off the alarm. There are however some really good motion sensors that can cater for pets. You've defo done the right thing by getting this alarm installed and did as we did and had two alarm bell boxes fitted one to the front and one to the rear. Most burglaries are from the rear of the property as some criminals choose their targets by seeing who has an alarm and who does not. Having the two working strobe and bell boxes is a very sensible move on your behalf...
Wireless "really secure" means, easy blocked with an RF jammer.
Hey, Robin from Boundary here - jamming detection is a feature. More detail from Paul our CTO in a thread below 👍
How often are you going to have to deal with dead batteries? Especially on those hard to reach outdoor sirens. Personally, I'd put a deafening siren indoors so they don't want to spend any time indoors (it takes just a moment to steal a telly).
Just wonder how many householders would actually bother to replace all the batteries. Every year . Over a lifetime of 10 years (if any of it lasts that long - and the original web site still works!) it's probably more effort than wiring it properly
@@JC-jv5xw I think it'd be a pain, just look at how badly people deal with their smoke alarm batteries. Too right about support websites drying up. In this day and age it would be more useful if your alarm directly SMSd your mobile phone with alerts, or rang you with voice alerts and switched on a mike so you could confirm someone was in your house instead of it being a false alarm.
Texecom batteries in external sounder about 3 years normal use.
Yes pain in the ass and expensive , every 12 months £50.00 and a couple of hours driving the neighbours mad with the tamper going off or the low bat warning driving you nuts
Note that the manufacturer says "up to" 12 months between battery changes, not "at least".
So could be 6 months in some circumstances....
Hi could you please tell me what type of work trousers you wear
enjoyed your video as always well done
Good job hope Reuben is enjoying his time with you.
are the batteries replaceable in any of this e-waste?
Used to love the videos but now I get the impression you are being used as an advertising hub I will stand corrected but just think your video's used to be real world jobs
I also feel this ,,, I understand they want to advertise etc as that’s the utube business model but when it’s all about selling products and getting a %%% the videos are not real jobs.. more about product placement
Colin furzes channel has gone down the same route. Sponsor this, sponsor that. The modest "homemade" feel of the video has all but gone..
@@Dazzy84 The stuff Colin does needs a sponsor, and his videos are not advertising the product just that So & So paid me to build a shelter etc. He may slip in a cutaway pic/vid but in essence the stuff he is doing is the focus of his videos.
A few similar comments flying on here and he's not responding. His persona in this video and body language tells Me he's done this reluctantly. 🤔
In previous videos, Jordan covers to hide his door number but he hasn't in this event lol Maybe he doesn't need to now. Now that he has got a alarm installed lol
What kind of tool pouches are you wearing at the beginning of the video? They look pretty slick
Does this comply with EN 50131? For insurance purposes. Even PD6662
Where did you get the coffee from? I can only find a website with a £17.50 p&p charge!
Imagine a qualified electrician promoting a security system that just plugs into a socket and the devices are stuck on with sticky tabs. SMH. I suggest leaving fire & security to the security guys and sticking to the electrical stuff.
Hey, Robin from Boundary here. You might not be aware but the Boundary alarm system is actually designed to meet EN 50131 standards. We’re going through certification with the test labs at the moment. Sticky tabs are convenient but we supply screws too as standard.
@@robinknox4614 if its only in the certification process how are you promising police response technically its not up to standard at the moment plus if people are installing them there self no way can you provide police response
@@ryanhayes3833 Hi there, our police response product is yet to launch. This is a review of our alarm system being installed in a DIY capacity. We’ll offer police response once our equipment is certified. To add - our system has passed pre-compliance testing already so we don't envisage any issues with this.
@@robinknox4614 i know your not because its not possible at the moment, just the wording on the website with the so called "pro" subscription is misleading but I guess thats already been recognised, 2 pairable sensors for any unpaid subscription its amazing how anyone can sit and say thats a reasonable product to sell when its just another low way of conning a customer of more money once again probably already recognised and regardless of certification to gain police response its need to be installed by a accredited company, this alarm has been installed in a DIY capacity and the reason for that is because thats all it will ever be yet me and you both know how's it being portrayed, makes me laugh of all these supposed subscription based smart alarms all state on there websites how there better then the current wireless systems or imply it in some other way, charlatans is the word that comes to mind
@@ryanhayes3833 preach! This kind of carry on is why we exited the domestic market a couple of years ago, we concentrate on industrial & commercial now...you know, clients who actually value their security.
Damn - one day you gotta make that coffee tool of the day.
The sticky pads are gonna peel off at some point hopefully not when the alarm is set and cause a false alarm 🤦♂️
Hey, Robin from Boundary here, the sticky pads are really strong but for a professional install we’d recommend using the supplied screws
Do you know if this will be available in Australia? Great video
A wired alarm is always the way to go. Far superior to all these smart and DIY alarms .
Bit disappointed to see this on your channel
Problem is the amount of ripping apart a house would have to have to fit a wired system makes the cost astronomical.
@@mbak7801 Far less than a rewire which these guys are doing or recommending all the time.
Now I dont mind wireless systems given that most classic alarm systems are very dumb and you can get far more discrete zoning and the like from a smarter system.
But equally i'd say a keyfob is old technology - why not just have Bluetooth off your phone that can allow entry (like say in a Tesla)
@@mark123655 you can use your phone, on the app, I do that on the way to the door. Alternatively, a fob lets you go out without your phone, so you have both options.
Absolutely.
Wireless systems do have their place, but can never be above grade 2 at best.
I’m quite happy with my Hikvision Colorvu accusense, with line crossing, intrusion detection, and instant notifications that can be set on a schedule.
Agreed. Paid to promote it on his channel......money talks 😉
What happens if the intruder cuts the telecom cable that enters the house ? Will the alarm detect this and sound ?
Hi what are you going to do now Boundary has gone bust?
Small, tiny, insignificant Ruben was harsh.
great but how do you charge the outside units great vids as always from sunny skeggy UK
Hi, how long do the batteries last in the sensors and siren? I assume they use batteries if they are wireless? Also what happens if you have an internet issue, does this alarm offer a gsm backup?
@@leslieconnelly8749 if we wanted to hard wire power to save having to change batteries every 12 months, is there an option for this?
Oh so you’ve never heard of the pyronix enforcer? Fully wireless, probably cheaper and ONE MILLION TIMES BETTER. And it has even more features.
Hey, It's Robin from Boundary. Frustrations with complex and let's say 'aesthetically challenged' traditional systems (like the one you mention) actually lead us to begin our journey to re-design the hardware from the ground up for a far simpler, modern user experience whilst still conforming to industry standards.
@@robinknox4614 pyronix enforcer is a relatively new system, it looks more modern, its more secure and you can have a decent bell box with your custom screenprinted logo o
@@mrsecurity On this we'll have to agree to disagree. 🕊✌️
@@mrsecurity Texecom Ricochet is good. Smart alarms are crap.
@@mychannel0743 ikr
What i dont get is that it didn’t give time to enter a code or scan a fob like it did when jordan tried it but went off straight away ehen ruben went in
Since so many people tend to ignore sirens now they are often installed inside the property, preferably with a ear splitting noise level.
My parents have this, we fitted it years ago, it's virtually impossible to stay in the house and think straight yet it minimises nuisance to neighbours add flashing strobe for more disorientation. Ultimately the best deterrent is a smoke system combined with sirens and strobes.
What work trouswers are you wearing in the video ? Like the look of them .
I've used your link but I get No discount?
Cant't believe you failed to mention Ruben's nice trunking.
That aside, wonderful video as alwaws :)
Thanks
"Smart" in the name is already reason enough to NOT buy that. "Smart" nowadays will mean that your data (occupancy, access codes, address) are stored on a badly-secured 3rd party server, just waiting to be hacked. It means that your house won't be protected as soon as you have an internet outage or something jams your wifi. It also means that your devices will have to be replaced every 2-3 years when the company stops providing updates for that series, or goes bankrupt, or gets bought up by Google or whatever. A home security system is best left as dumb as possible to be effective.
"Wireless" is also great fun.. it means when the burglar actually comes, the batteries will likely be dead anyways. Even if not - have fun climbing up that ladder once a year (or more) to replace the batteries in those sirens.
Hi Markus, Paul the CTO from Boundary here! We're proud to say that our products have been tested in the UK by multiple organisations and pre-launch we achieved IASME IoT certification at Gold level - aligned with the ETSI EN 303 645 IoT Security Standard, so unlike some others, we do take cyber as well as physical security seriously. Our alarm has backup communication via optional cellular backup and implements RF Jamming detection on its wireless interfaces to alert the user should anything untoward occur.
Of course, batteries do need replacing, and will be replaced yearly if required on our professionally monitored package (coming soon) as required by the UK and EU alarm standards. There are many pros and cons on wired vs wireless systems, but we find that people nowadays prefer wireless to running wires in their homes, and of course this does mean that batteries are required. We proactively report battery levels to our users so that there is plenty of warning if a battery is likely to drain. I hope this helps explain a little bit about how we striving to be different from some other "smart" systems that are out there.
It seems a bit odd that the alarm goes off as soon as Rubin starts to open the door. Does this mean the owner can only use one door to access the property without setting off the alarm right away?
That's probably because there's only one keypad so the system assumes that it must be an intruder using the rear door which would of been set as the rear door. I fitted my own galaxy system and fitted a second keypad by the rear door so I don't have that problem
Hi Jim, CTO from Boundary here - each sensor is configurable as being on an entry/exit route or not, and in this case it was not. When set on a door that you normally use for entry to your property, a countdown timer starts before the alarm & siren will trigger. I hope that explains it :)
@@paulwalton1163 Thanks Paul.
@@JeffsWigjust sat the back door contact to entry exit with a 30 second timer no need for second keypad
Neat! However I never like the branding on the alarms or stickers. Can give out too much info about weaknesses of such systems up front if you got an organised burglary going on haha
id agree the branding gives too much away. that adds boundary to the list of smart alarm companies that burglars will look for on houses, then break straight in!
I agree. I always use different window/door warning stickers than the system i have installed. Doesn’t help much here when the siren is an advertisement
Tip for sticky back trunking,peel back a short bit of the sticky back,when your happy it's straight gradually unstrip the rest on the way down 👍
I’d always put a few screws in also wouldn’t rely on sticky back.
If someone manages to steal your keys. They can turn alarms off and get in surely a code is better?
how can they not provide uk plug as standard on the extender like most other electronics and appliances you buy on the uk?
Because UK is only ones using it, Europe it’s a lot bigger. Makes more economical sense to include a cheap adaptor.
Hi Allan, Paul from Boundary here - you are totally right, and I'm pleased to say we now stock range extenders fitted with a UK plug as you would expect - the UK models were brand new to the market and unfortunately due to global supply chain issues they arrived later than hoped.
@@paulwalton1163 Yeah, supplying without a UK plug and the type of adapter you did is a clear breach of The Plugs and Sockets etc. (Safety) Regulations 1994.
@@paulwalton1163 thanks for the reply 😍😍😍
We are sorry to advise that Boundary Technologies Limited has ceased to trade due to financial difficulties and that Graeme Bain of Johnston Carmichael has been appointed as Provisional Liquidator of the company by Edinburgh Sheriff Court. As a result, the company is unfortunately no longer in a position to provide ongoing technical support to customers.
cant beat pyronix enforcer. £36 a year for monitoring alerts. works brill and strongest encryption on a home wireless security system...
I fit Dozens and Dozens of the Enforcers.
Dual freq, pet sensitive.
Key fob or Id tag entry exit.
3 year battery life on all detectors.
Subscription, free for 12 months. Then NOT needed, for continued use.
I could have sworn it was illegal to sell consumer electronics in the UK with non UK standard plugs?
It definitely used to be the law that if there was an adapter it had to only be removable with the use of a tool.
Hi, Paul from Boundary here - we now supply range extenders with integrated UK plugs fitted to our consumers, unfortunately our stock of UK units was delayed and this was sent as a sample. I hope that helps explain!
@@paulwalton1163 You were working late!
Makes perfect sense :)
Installed hundreds of the Pyronix wireless systems. This system is very expensive and less user friendly.
How much do you roughly charge to install a pyronix for 3 bed 2 storey house?
£700 plus parts?
Its also insecure and unreliable! Anything like an enforcer or ricochet would be much better.
I’d charge around £480 fitted.
Door contact
2 x pet pirs
Sounder
2 x setting fobs.
@@stevedavies4052 that’s a good price. Wish you were based in Somerset
2 questions.
Is this system available for sale outside of the UK? I live in the United States.
How about homes with pets? I'd imagine motion sensors are a no-go.
Why don’t you look into Ring alarms they are available everywhere pretty esp UK and USA, it is pretty much the same and slightly cheaper. The sensors do not go that far down hence can be per friendly. Also no key phob, all done from your phone app or the unit on the wall, hence larger family Re kids etc then covered, u do not have to obtain at cost more phob.
Ring u can May for monitoring but do not have too also, plus if you end up with a ring doorbell where you kind of have to pay for storage footage the £ 8 all in works out a good option, pay yearly abs it is slightly cheaper. Good luck 😉
I’m watching Dave’s CZcams channel watching CZcams 🥳😆😁
As a complete amateur, I use a metal/voltage detector to avoid drilling into cables.
Bought mine the other day …. I didn’t get the range extender though …
So sarchasic specially bout delroys customers to yours
Vestibule is a small room between the front door and outer door. think of it like an internal porch
Cloud based, what happens if the firm goes bust?
Hi Jordan ,
How do the sensor's work with pets i.e cats or dogs?
Simple, cat or dog walks past the sensor, alarm goes off.
They are pet proof sensors actually I forgot to mention that as I have no pets!
@@Chris-hy6jy not true , many alarm systems have pet friendly options
Yes I'm well aware of "pet friendly" PIRs. They assume cats and dogs don't jump up on things or run about much.
@@artisanelectrics Pet proof usually means no low level scanning with the sensors , if the dog jumps on the sofa or window the alarm will still trigger , you can get pet recognition sensors but they are a different product