I'm coming up on 8000 miles on the original Metzler Tourance tires on my BMW G310GS, which is 2000 miles more than I expected to get out of those 90% road tires. Until my baby ADV bike, I've always ridden small dual sport thumpers with knobbies, since 1975. I loved the Tourance tires on the road but I need better off road performance. I'll be installing the Shinko 804/805 tires... or possibly the similar Kenda Big Block tires.
I've heard many bad things about the 805 but I th8nk that is mostly from people who push the limits of it. It's good to hear a good review for a change.
Got my front and rear for $190 Cdn. Just put 10,000 km on them and they still have a little life in the rear, front is fine. Did highway and several passes in Colorado and they worked very well, no complaints.
Nice review. I’ve been happy with Shinko’s 705 for street oriented tire. I’ve run a couple TKC80’s and they perform well, but would not have made that mileage. Have Scouts on now, and they seem spooky in wet conditions. I may have to try 804/805 next time.
Impressive mileage. I ran the Shinko 805/804 combination on my VStrom on a number of fully loaded trips over both paved and dirt and the back is worn out after about 3,000miles. The front probably has another 1,000 miles left. They’re great tires performance wise, but longevity isn’t very long, but I suppose for the price you shouldn’t expect perfection.
I just pulled the trigger on an 804/805 set for my 2021 T7. Under $240.00 shipped/taxed on Motosport in May of 2022. They are replacing the stock Pirelli Scorpions which I absolutely hated. I was convinced I was going to put on tires with a "V" or chevron type pattern, ( think Metzeler Karoo 3's) but decided to take a chance on the Shinkos based on the HUGE amount of positive reviews. We'll see.
You made the right decision. The Karoo 3 has significant diffecincies. I have had issues with Chevron pattern tires. The front tire washes out really easily in loose terrain.
I had a similar issue with the air pressure loss. In my instance the air leak was at the rim. What I did was take the wheel off, broke the bead from the rim and cleaned out some dirt from where the bead seats in the rim and used a bead sealant- then reset the bead. I haven't had a problem since. Not a sure thing, but that's more common in bias ply tires than radials.
Helpful, factual review. I'm looking for a durable 50/50 or 40/60 (street / dirt) tire for my 2003 KTM 640 ADV. Not sure if the E-804 / 805 would fit but, if it does, I'd imagine I'd get better longevity out of them since the bike weighs 350 pounds dry (about 400 wet plus luggage).
Those look just like my 805. Africa Twin , I got 9K on front and back 804/805 so far. No dirt, nothing but hot Florida highways. Can't beat 9K on hot streets.
Oh wow. I’m pretty easy myself I thought. I ran my TKC80 at 42 rear and ate it up. Some say to lower the psi so it wears more evenly. I’m currently running 36 rear and it seams to be wearing a bit better. I’m always spinning and sliding when Off Road si maybe there’s the reason. LOL.
I had a puncture in 300km and a tear down to the tube before 1000km. Cheap, yes. Durable, no. TKC80 is almost double the price but it never left me stranded. These are for coffee shop adventures. IMHO.
Hmmm. For me they prove an excellent value all rounder. Have had two sets of the Shinkos do repeat 3,000k trips to Finke here in central Oz. But yep any punctures are a pain.
@@nsrlegaltech Glad to hear you have had good luck with yours. I really liked them except for the durability. The ride that caused the cut almost through the belts is posted on here. I don't think the terrain is anything that should have caused that extent of damage- speeds were low. Anyway, I'll chalk it up to bad luck and see how the AX41 works. So far so good though I haven't even scrubbed them in yet (about 200KM) or had them in the dirt.
Tough question to answer. The tire compound on the Trailmax is harder. It depends on how much offroad you will be riding. The knobby front tire of the 805 will perform better offroad. If you plan lots of road miles to get in some offroad the Trailmax will be the better choice. I got 9500 miles on the rear Trailmax. The front Trailmax has a lot of life left. If offroad traction is the priority I think I would choose the 805.
Copy that. I am for sure on the road more so the Dunlop’s would fit my style better. I keep thinking I’ll get off road more then reality sets in. Ha! I appreciate your insight
You're right I didnt. I kept the pressure at 40psi all the time. I check pressures before every ride so i am confident the tires were never under inflated.
i have not used the Anakee Wild so I can't give you a good comparison. The Shinko is much cheaper and will likely get just as many miles if not a few more than the wild.
@@JDT64 , hell, I don't go over 70mph on the highway with them on my Africa Twin. 9K on the set so far nothing but hot Florida streets. About to change very soon, lol
Depends on tire size. For a 170/60r17 this a great price for a knobby. All others are over $200. Probably another good reason not to ride the beast bikes. Tires are pricey.
I had a puncture in 300km and a tear down to the tube before 1000km. Cheap, yes. Durable, no. TKC80 is almost double the price but it never left me stranded. These are for coffee shop adventures. IMHO.
I'm coming up on 8000 miles on the original Metzler Tourance tires on my BMW G310GS, which is 2000 miles more than I expected to get out of those 90% road tires. Until my baby ADV bike, I've always ridden small dual sport thumpers with knobbies, since 1975. I loved the Tourance tires on the road but I need better off road performance. I'll be installing the Shinko 804/805 tires... or possibly the similar Kenda Big Block tires.
Can't beat the price for those tires. My all time favorite knobby tires is the Bridgestone Battle Axe AX41.
I've heard many bad things about the 805 but I th8nk that is mostly from people who push the limits of it.
It's good to hear a good review for a change.
Got my front and rear for $190 Cdn. Just put 10,000 km on them and they still have a little life in the rear, front is fine. Did highway and several passes in Colorado and they worked very well, no complaints.
Nice review. I’ve been happy with Shinko’s 705 for street oriented tire. I’ve run a couple TKC80’s and they perform well, but would not have made that mileage. Have Scouts on now, and they seem spooky in wet conditions. I may have to try 804/805 next time.
Impressive mileage. I ran the Shinko 805/804 combination on my VStrom on a number of fully loaded trips over both paved and dirt and the back is worn out after about 3,000miles. The front probably has another 1,000 miles left. They’re great tires performance wise, but longevity isn’t very long, but I suppose for the price you shouldn’t expect perfection.
Wow. Got 9K on mine, back and front. No dirt, just 9K on hot Florida streets. I'm very impressed. 2017 Africa Twin .
I just pulled the trigger on an 804/805 set for my 2021 T7. Under $240.00 shipped/taxed on Motosport in May of 2022. They are replacing the stock Pirelli Scorpions which I absolutely hated. I was convinced I was going to put on tires with a "V" or chevron type pattern, ( think Metzeler Karoo 3's) but decided to take a chance on the Shinkos based on the HUGE amount of positive reviews. We'll see.
You made the right decision. The Karoo 3 has significant diffecincies. I have had issues with Chevron pattern tires. The front tire washes out really easily in loose terrain.
9K on my 804/805s. No dirt, nothing but hot Florida streets and highways. Can't beat that with a stick. 2017 Africa Twin.
@@thevoyer2002 Damn. I know FL pavement. 9k is a lot.
I had a similar issue with the air pressure loss. In my instance the air leak was at the rim. What I did was take the wheel off, broke the bead from the rim and cleaned out some dirt from where the bead seats in the rim and used a bead sealant- then reset the bead. I haven't had a problem since. Not a sure thing, but that's more common in bias ply tires than radials.
Great tip, I will keep that in mind if I have this problem again.
Also Tireject bead sealer will work well if you don't get a chance to pull the wheel.
What’s crazy is the H speed rating on the 170/60-17 size. 130mph on a knobby 😮
Helpful, factual review. I'm looking for a durable 50/50 or 40/60 (street / dirt) tire for my 2003 KTM 640 ADV. Not sure if the E-804 / 805 would fit but, if it does, I'd imagine I'd get better longevity out of them since the bike weighs 350 pounds dry (about 400 wet plus luggage).
Those look just like my 805. Africa Twin , I got 9K on front and back 804/805 so far. No dirt, nothing but hot Florida highways. Can't beat 9K on hot streets.
Wow, you really got a lot of mileage out those tires.
@@advmatt pretty sure it's cuz I ride as normal as can be. I get alot of miles out of my chains and sprockets too.
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I have had good luck with Shinkos on my bikes
Oh wow. I’m pretty easy myself I thought. I ran my TKC80 at 42 rear and ate it up. Some say to lower the psi so it wears more evenly. I’m currently running 36 rear and it seams to be wearing a bit better. I’m always spinning and sliding when Off Road si maybe there’s the reason. LOL.
Ezio Comparini 33 psi
I had a puncture in 300km and a tear down to the tube before 1000km. Cheap, yes. Durable, no. TKC80 is almost double the price but it never left me stranded. These are for coffee shop adventures. IMHO.
After my last experience with Shinkos I am with you on tire selection. Trying the Bridgestone AX41 right now.
Same! Ordered a rear yesterday lol.
Hmmm. For me they prove an excellent value all rounder. Have had two sets of the Shinkos do repeat 3,000k trips to Finke here in central Oz. But yep any punctures are a pain.
@@nsrlegaltech Glad to hear you have had good luck with yours. I really liked them except for the durability. The ride that caused the cut almost through the belts is posted on here. I don't think the terrain is anything that should have caused that extent of damage- speeds were low. Anyway, I'll chalk it up to bad luck and see how the AX41 works. So far so good though I haven't even scrubbed them in yet (about 200KM) or had them in the dirt.
Use the bead sealer! Works great!
I need to try that now that I am changing tires myself. Thanks for the suggestion.
Cheap lithium grease has always worked well for me on the beads.
Would your recommend this E-805 rear on the KTM 390 Adv?
Yeah, it should last quite awhile, possibly 4k miles. I liked this tire. I haven't tried on my 390 Adv, but I wouldn't hesitate using it.
Hey Matt,
Drop the cash on the Dunlop Traimax missions or go for the 805??? Thanks in advance!
Tough question to answer. The tire compound on the Trailmax is harder. It depends on how much offroad you will be riding. The knobby front tire of the 805 will perform better offroad. If you plan lots of road miles to get in some offroad the Trailmax will be the better choice. I got 9500 miles on the rear Trailmax. The front Trailmax has a lot of life left. If offroad traction is the priority I think I would choose the 805.
Copy that. I am for sure on the road more so the Dunlop’s would fit my style better. I keep thinking I’ll get off road more then reality sets in. Ha! I appreciate your insight
I got 3,400 miles out of mine, about the same as i get on a TKC80. What psi are you running on the street?
I run 42psi on the street. I got almost 5k out my TKC80, but I am pretty easy on the throttle and had about 1200 offroad, if I remember right.
Correction I only got 4k out of TKC80.
You never mentioned what tire pressure you ran the 805 rear at on road?
You're right I didnt. I kept the pressure at 40psi all the time. I check pressures before every ride so i am confident the tires were never under inflated.
How is the Shinko compared to the Anakee Wild?
i have not used the Anakee Wild so I can't give you a good comparison. The Shinko is much cheaper and will likely get just as many miles if not a few more than the wild.
Keep in mind that these tires are rated for max speed of 99 MPH.
Good point.
You want to go over 99mph on a 50 50 tire??
@@JDT64 Sure doesn’t seem like a good idea to me lol
Could have sworn my 805 said max speed 75mph.
@@JDT64 , hell, I don't go over 70mph on the highway with them on my Africa Twin. 9K on the set so far nothing but hot Florida streets. About to change very soon, lol
$150 seems steep. I just put a set on my 800gs for $171 shipped.
Depends on tire size. For a 170/60r17 this a great price for a knobby. All others are over $200. Probably another good reason not to ride the beast bikes. Tires are pricey.
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How noisy is this tire?
I didn't find this tire to be that noisy. I really didn't even notice it. I only ran the rear tire.
Running shinkos front and back they are fine on highway and for long runs. yes dont notice them.
I had a puncture in 300km and a tear down to the tube before 1000km. Cheap, yes. Durable, no. TKC80 is almost double the price but it never left me stranded. These are for coffee shop adventures. IMHO.