Sigma 16mm f1.4: Better than Sony's Own! - Widest, Fastest, Best Lens for Sony APSC Mirrorless Video
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- Is the Sigma 16mm f1.4 my new favorite Sony APSC lens? Yes. Surprising how much I enjoyed this lens, see it in my vlogging Kit kit.co/rayortega/sony-a6500-v...
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I asked B&H for a review unit of the Sigma 16mm f1.4 for Sony APSC mirrorless cams and attached it to my a6500 and set off for work in Atlanta, Georgia. I had seen good things online about this lens and anytime I tried to vlog with my 28mm, I knew I needed a much wider option. So I gave it a shot and was completely surprised with how this lens was even better than my native Sony lens.
It's definitely wide enough at 16mm which is 24mm equivalent on a crop sensor camera like the a6500, a6300, a6000. I never had to worry about keeping myself in frame which is a tough thing to do when you don't have a flip screen. But not a problem, this lens is plenty wide.
Combine that with the f1.4 and there was no situation that I could not tackle with this lens. The quality of the image coming out even wide open at 1.4 was stunning. Super clean in low light and I think it's pretty much the perfect combination to go with my a6500, it allows me to get every bit of quality out my camera.
And there was no compromise with using a third party option (Sigma). I dare to say it worked better than my native Sony lens when working in continuous auto focus. It held steady focus at 1.4 and I didn't see any focusing breathing where the out of focus background pulses.
The lens does make a small noise while in AF but in most vlogging situations even with a microphone on top of the camera, it's not loud enough to ruin your audio.
The Sony a6500 is the perfect camera in the Sony line for this lens because the 16mm doesn't have image stabilization. With the 6500 you get a stabilized sensor and therefor enough stabilization when handholding this lens.
It's a tad bigger that I would ideally want to carry everywhere but I'm just being picky and I'm spoiled by my smaller, lighter 28mm F2 and this isn't a real criticism, just me finding something negative to say cause this lens is almost perfect in my opinion.
Of course I had to return the review unit but I'm definitely buying this lens, I just enjoyed it too much and all the video I shot with it ended up looking so good that I have to have this in my kit. I'd definitely recommend this lens if you're looking for a wide angle option for video on your Sony APSC camera.
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great review and information dude, you demoed pretty much everything I wanted to see. Many thanks and all the best.
Thanks, Marlon, it continues to be my favorite lens to date.
Nicely done Ray!
Always enjoy your work.
Appreciate it, thanks for watching!
Awesome video! I loved all of the information. It seems like it handles the Auto-focus very well. Thats huge for this camera and lens combo.
Thanks! Yes AF is about as good as it can be and for a third party lens that makes it even more surprising. Still my favorite lens for video, at least the kind of video I do, at this point, stellar pairing.
awesome low light details you get with this lens. Thanks for sharing
Thanks, Federico.
Ray let me ask you. I'm thinking to get the sigma 30mm lens to achieve great medium shots. But eventually I'll want to vlog a bit. Maybe I'll be out of frame but I'll use a gimbal, maybe this extends the distance between me and the sony. What do you thinks? Should I buy de 16mm option instead? Or I'll be ok with the 30mm? Thanks man!
Great video. Very useful information. Thanks for sharing. I have a questions. What is your focusing setting for self blogging?
Damn I miss my home town! I’m Sterling Colorado now missing Atlanta. Good video and I’m definitely buying this lens now.
Thanks, Mango, glad you like the shots of ATL, I had a great time walking around even while sweating ;) Enjoy the lens!
I love my A6500 and I have the 16mm 1.4... great combo!
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i loved watching this video footage. keep going 😃
Thanks!!
This is exactly what I was looking for, for so long.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Still my favorite lens that I own.
Good review man!
Thanks, David!
I already own this lens and use it with my a6500, totally love it it! Still watched the whole video haha good stuff
Cool, thanks, Chadwin. These two together make the perfect pair. I'll check out your videos.
Ray Ortega yes, they’re the perfect combo and so light and small!! Cool thanks!
Nicely, shot and I really enjoy your reviews Ray. Currently have the Sony RX100 V and keeping my eyes out for a mirrorless camera in the coming months.
RX series is very cool, just wish they would seal the deal and make one with an mic input! ideally they would put a mic input on the 5100/6000 series and you'd have an amazing entry level cam
Lovin this!
Thanks, Michelle!
Agree that these are great lenses. I've been trying to find a decent deal on a 2nd hand one here in Saigon, but they just don't show up used. I think people love them and don't sell them. Probably will have to buy a new one. Nice show, makes me want one even more.
Hey there! I'm from Atlanta. I hope your stay in Atlanta was nice. If you're ever down here again, be sure to check out the aquarium.
great job lovely lens, any profile picture you use?
good reviewing video, I actually have Sony 10-18 F4 - perfect for vlog but not good for night shooting at all. This Sigma 16mm will be just right for my new small gimbal by Sirui for walking shot. Cheers.
Thanks, I got a chance to use that lens after wanting to try it for years cause I know it's good czcams.com/video/hQdfHZOQC6I/video.html I talk about briefly in the beginning
Great Video !
Thanks, Jack!
beautiful lens video ~~~
Ray,
Great video and review. I was wondering if you had any issues with any jittery footage with this lens or similar lenses on a camera body without IBIS like the A6300? I rely on OSS a lot and I am wondering if it will end up being an issue if I use this lens with a A6300 body and a Zhiyun Crane gimbal. Thank you again for the great review.
Thanks, Joe. I haven't used this on a body without IBIS but if you're on a gimbal, I would think that it should be stable enough. Definitely check out a channel like Jason Vong since he specializes in Sony, does tons of lens reviews and uses gimbals...a good resource and nice guy
i'm getting this lens!
You'll love it! I just bought it;)
This same lens is available as M43 (for Panasonic and Olympus) which fits perfectly without any adapters. It's amazing on the Lumix Gh5 camera (as that camera enjoys the best sensor Stabilization
Great lens, I would disagree that it looks bad here but I think you mean while walking and yes, IBIS is not that good, it's more for jitter anyone walking should really use a gimbal if they want it to be super smooth but yes Panasonic does have nice IS.
Good review... Can I ask what picture profile where you using for that night shoot?
I just checked through all my night b-roll and sadly I did not note the profile which makes me mad cause it turned out so good! But what I was able to decipher is that it was not SLOG2 which I usually shoot in. That is not recommended, in general, for low light so I switch to a profile with more contrast. I think I may have tweaked some of the settings as well but not sure when I did that. But I think any of the non SLOG profiles would do a good job.
What camera does this not crop? I thought it crops on full frame a7iii and it does not on Sony apsc like a6500,a6300? Thanks
Hey Ray, nice review, thank you!
I noticed that you have the same ghosty circles aroud small points of light when shooting in the dark as I have with my sigma 16 1.4. Is it something to worry? Or at this amazing price point should not bother? I also noticed the lens is quite sharper at 1.4 than at 2, have you tested it? Anyways thank you!
Alex, I don't really see the "issue." Yes now that I'm looking I see some faint hallow around out of focus lights but it just looks like bokeh to me and not something I'd be concerned with. This lens is just too good and so much damn fun;)
Great video....would you use this lens and your a6500 for professional work... Thanks for the video..
If you just means in terms of quality, yes, it's the best lens I've used so far.
Great job! Like!!
Thx!
I've been working on an F4 lens which has frustrated me. Was hesitant to upgrade glass for the A6500 but just had to pull the trigger on this lens after that review. Thanks.
Thanks, still my favorite lens;)
Hi Ray, I just got the 16mm Sigma lens so I'm checking out reviews. Very good one here. I was wondering, on some of your shots, the colors look pretty flat. I'm curious, was that a choice you made or was the Picture profile off? I notice when using my A7III I have different Picture Profiles for different types of shots and I was wondering what your take was on that after viewing your footage here.
Hi, Glen, do you have some specific shots you are referring to? I can tell you that I often use Slog2 which of course is very flat. I also will sometimes bring up the black level in post which gives a flatish like look. Mostly I'm always just playing with the color grade. I wish I had a more consistent look but I can't stop myself from constant tweaking in order to learn.
Great video Ray! How do you make slow mo to look that sharp?
Thanks, it's about nailing focus when you record and shooting at the right frame rate (high as your cam allows in it's highest resolution (1080p) and using the proper shutter for that frame rate. Then proper post processing, see how I do it czcams.com/video/PT1tR2Y-y7E/video.html
@@RayOrtega i know the essentials for shooting and edting slowmo, it's just that your a6500 footage looks super sharp compared to other videos that i've watched (With the sigma lens and all). I always thought that shooting wide shots in 1080 with this camera wasn´t an option due to the massive difference in quality compared to the 4k, (way too soft) but you make it look like 2k and looks like nothing i've seen before.
Besides your editing process, is there any additonal sharpening tool that you use in post? what about in camera sharpness levels?
Any tips when exporting?
Or maybe the majority of people are slightly out of focus when shooting and not using the right settings. idk
I like this.
Thanks!
Nice Video
hey Rey.... let me know are you holding gimble or tripod for this vloG??
thanks
Just mini tripod Manfrotto PIXI Mini Tripod amzn.to/2ytmUu1
Nice review, looks good and if they added image stabilisation would have been ultimate.
Thanks. Having IS sensors has been a huge deal and I'm happy to see most cams going that way so we can use any lens and have stabilization.
Does anyone know why my sigma 16mm f1.4 with a6400 can auto focus close, but not back far when I move the object or myself back to the original spot? I tried AFC wide and a few other modes and potential fixes to no avail. If anybody knows the exact issue let me know!
Is that Atlanta?
Ray, I have an a6300 and a Sigma 30mm f 1.4, really the quality is too much, and in the 16mm still with bigger angle. Good pictures. Could you enable the subtitles option on CZcams? would help a lot! Greetings from Brazil. Att. Roberto.
Thanks! I thought subtitles was something I had enabled but now that I'm looking, I don't even see it as an option. The videos should be open to translations but I don't see any option that does auto language the way that closed captioning does for English.
Fantastic Video!! Quick question - In your low light shot @4:35 mark, you said that the ISo is on auto. But, can you be mor precise in terms of exactly what that ISO number was at??
Thanks! Sadly the camera, at least with the firmware it had at the time, did not tell me what ISO it was using when in Auto. I mentioned that I limited the ISO so that it could not go any higher than 6400 so whatever it is, it's that or less. It's been a long time since I filmed this but I suspect I limited it at 6400 specially because I found that I could get decently clean video in low light with that ISO. Watching it again, it seems high to me but that is one of the cool things about this camera and I think using a flat picture profile like Slog2. You can check out this even older video where I demonstrate this exact thing czcams.com/video/7Tslg-7V1Yk/video.html thanks for watching!
@@RayOrtega Excellent, thanks!!! I'm fairly new to filming in low light situations and was curious to know if Picture Profile is very impactful in shooting higher quality vids in low light conditions??
@@FC-py6xk it's hard to say, for me, I'm sure someone has done some videos on it but I found that on the Sony, the SLOG2 profile worked really well for me in low light as you can see in that video. But mostly that is due to the Sony. Some would probably argue that SLOG is worse but the proof is in the pudding for me. The key is to try out different profiles and see where your camera performs best.
@@RayOrtega Sounds great, thanks Ray!! Will give it a try. I’m using a Sony ZV-E10 with the Sigma 16mm f1.4 lens btw.
I have the old NEX F3. Would it be ok to get the sigma 16mm? Despite the olde camera, would you still recommend this lens? Will the camera be goood enough for it? I really like the sigma 16mm after watching all the reviews but I'm worried if my old Nex f3 won't be compatible. Ty
It's a Sony E-mount camera and so is the lens so it should fit fine however the auto-focus will depend on how well the camera auto-focuses and if it even focuses continuously in video mode
what is the best setiings for 16mm +sony 6500 if you going for Video ? you use autofocus ore continuous ?
Settings will depend on what it is you are shooting, where and your knowledge of the cam. Ideally you'd film all manual and dial in all the right settings for your environment but you can see how I have setup my cam for vlogging as an example czcams.com/video/Nk7Z-f02J78/video.html
looking to get my first 6500 would you say this is a good lens to keep on 80% of the time? I plan to do landscapes and make travel videos. no distortion?
I can tell you that since I've had it I've almost never taken it off. It's definitely an 80% lens for me. I wouldn't say no distortion, I'm sure there is some, I haven't look too closely at that cause it's just the wide angle look but you can get a good feel of it from this video, look at the wide angle shots of buildings and any shot where I'm vlogging.
Can you tell please does a6000 has such zoom option or not?
I don't think so
cool) Hugh Jackman review the lens))
With video on the a6000 could I survive with the 16mm?
Yeah this is a great lens on any Sony crop sensor
Can you please suggest which is best between Sony 20mm f1.8 and Sigma 16mm f1.4 for Sony A6400, price not an issue but quality is.
Can't speak for the 20mm, I've never used it but the 16mm is my favorite lens of all the lenses I've used in terms of the image I get. Of course focal length matters in whatever you're doing as well.
sold
I want it
worth it;)
I think the math was off on the clear image zoom
yeah it would be 48. 16 x 1.5 =24 .... 24 x 2 (clear image zoom) = 48 equivalent
ATL!
THE Actual focal legnth and aperture is actually 16mm f1.4 because this is a crop lens on a crop sensor.
The lens is 16mm f1.4 but when on a crop sensor camera, the field of view becomes a multiple of whatever the crop is of the sensor. So on the a6500 (x1.5) the field of view of this 16mm is 24mm.
I think that horse had a detached diaper to contain the droppings, along with a 5 gallon bucket to transfer the waste into. Trick!
Has anyone mentioned that u look like agent coulson from marvel?
Maybe one or two before you;) Thanks for watching!
I think you should note clean images at night with 4k or 60fps and not in 120fps. Because that's where the a6500 falls apart no matter how amazing the lens is.
you mean 4k 24/25fps because at this setting you have the full sensor readout, meaning you get all the light the sensor gathers instead of a cropped image.
@@maxpyne310 yeah I mentioned 4k as well
@@PriscillaGomez yeah but you need to shot at 24/25fps for full sensor readout with 30fps you will end up with a cropped image
@@maxpyne310 oh brother... uh yeah thats why i said 4k OR 60fps... Not AND. You can't even shoot 4k at 60fps with sony crop sensors
@@PriscillaGomez excuse me wtf. I know that none of sony mirrorless aps-c cams shoot 4k/60 but you can shoot 4k/60 on a sony cropped sensor. The fuji tx-3 uses a sony aps-c sensor and has this setting.. I just wanted to say that you need to shoot at 24 or 25fps to get the full sensor readout on the a6300/a6500 at 4k/30 it gives you a cropped image. Why do i even waste my time on this
It's crazy how many people advocate for this lens. It's so loud and no one can even explain where the noise comes from. It's not even the autofocus working, it's a constant consistent noise. Don't you hear it?
It was too shaky man why?
I assume you are talking about when I'm walking? That would be why;) If you want super smooth while walking, you'll need a gimbal
@@RayOrtega or a mft camera with proper ibis
@@maxpyne310 I think the Olympus (maybe) and Panasonic definitely look like they do better IBIS than Sony. That said, walking is still walking and I wasn't going to walk the streets at a snails pace with knees bent lol. This is just use in the real world which is more a comment for Abdul than yourself cause yes there is better IBIS
Don't forget to mention is has no image stabilization so people like me want to vomit watching your walking footage. Not your fault. I'm happy my A6500 has in body stabilization. I never shoot moving video without my Zhiyun crane anyway. Thanks for the review.
Correct, in this case the 6500 is doing the stabilization and I mention that near the end of the video (6:05) but no, if you're walking, IS won't help enough in most cases and while a gimbal is great, it's not quite as practical as just having the cam in your hand or on your body. I will get a gimbal at some point but I'm less likely to have it in quick, day shooting vlog scenarios. That said, I'm sure I will when I test it out;) Thanks for watching!
perhaps you should watch the entire video before leaving a comment.
16 is almost 24mm full frame equivalent
Correct, on a crop sensor like the a6500 it will be 24mm field of view.
beautiful lens video ~~~