Sure hope more manufacturers embrace it. Thinking a crazy lightweight AR-10ish platform like the POF Rogue pistol would be incredible. A hair over 6 lbs and a chambering way more ideally suited for the 12" barrel than 308? Seems like a no-brainer.
Yeah I’d like to hear more about optimization for barrel lengths. This entire cartridge appears to be designed with ergonomics in mind, not a bad thing but now I am more curious.
Wondering how this compares to the WC 300 Ham'r ballistics? I understand that the 8.6 is a superior suppressor host because 300 Ham'r doesn't have any subsonic ammo available.
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@@hydrophilicchristopher9874 458 socom puts way more energy on target subsonic than 8.6 blackout. Do the math. 458 socom subs are heavier than 8.6 subs.
@@pcb8639 they disappeared in under an hour. I've been waiting for another run. Being "out there" isn't really ideal when they barrels out there are spoken for.
If you're a 3 MOA shooter and you have a 1 MOA gun... you get 3 MOA. BUT if you're a 3 MOA shooter and you gave a 3 MOA gun... oof. What, maybe 6 MOA on a bad day? All tolerances stack. All variables stack. Nail down whats easiest to nail down first and reap an instant reward.
@@BB-ss3mw because why would they make anything new with a brace? They aren’t going to be an option soon. I love that everyone is just ignoring the fact that braces are going to be illegal soon. It’s like if they don’t acknowledge it, it won’t happen lmao.
@@domostructor147 honestly, with updated tech and a gun that can run subs and supers 9x39 could be ALMOST as good as 8.6... but no one is doing this, and in the AR I don't think the bolts can handle a supercharged 9x39. 8.6 seems better in almost every conceivable way except frame/magazine size... and frankly modern materials make up for that a lot.
Ar10: sad face
8.6blk: you are relavent again
Ar10: thank
I'm not necessarily in the market for one, but I do really appreciate people that keep trying to innovate and push the boundaries of capabilities.
Sure hope more manufacturers embrace it. Thinking a crazy lightweight AR-10ish platform like the POF Rogue pistol would be incredible. A hair over 6 lbs and a chambering way more ideally suited for the 12" barrel than 308? Seems like a no-brainer.
Ya, that's the huge turn off for me... ammo is crazy hard to find.
Even MORE ideally?
@@borkwoof696 You got me and I won't edit it. That's clunky-ass wording.
I’d like to see barrels for other bolt actions like Tikka, Howa or even a Savage.
All I heard was: “8.6 honey badger… 1moa… 300meters..”
Take my money. 👍🏽
When will you have a SAAMI spec?
Well, I’m in! Have barrel, new hand guard, upper receiver, extra bcg, just ordered new lower, no ammo, gas tube or gas block. Just give me time!
I have a mini fix and it easily my favorite gun I own. I can’t wait to be able to buy an 8.6 with a .338 silencer.
What’s the max effective range of the 8.6?
Posting. 6.5mm Grendel, 9" - 10" barrel at 1:6 twist. What'd you analyze effects?
I’d like to see barrels for other actions besides just Remington.
Whats the longest barrel it can use in a boltaction? and how many joules at 100yards in subsonic?
Yeah I’d like to hear more about optimization for barrel lengths. This entire cartridge appears to be designed with ergonomics in mind, not a bad thing but now I am more curious.
Wondering how this compares to the WC 300 Ham'r ballistics? I understand that the 8.6 is a superior suppressor host because 300 Ham'r doesn't have any subsonic ammo available.
Can’t wait to build an 8.6 fix
Because you're the best and I love your face
Looking forward to 8,6 making it across the pond
Right to the point.
Great, I'm building one right now...where is the damned ammo?
I need to move to the US... Wait, no! Please invade Canada.
Got you
Soon as Sig releases MCX Raptor chambered in this, I'm on it.
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Forgot to mention 3 times the price
Thank you for pointing that out, but hopefully it’s cheapened over time.
"Yeah, but..." - The haters (probably)
Wouldn't have anything to do with you helping develop it? Lol
That's how capitalism works. Also, it's not like the origins of this cartridge are an industry secret.
86 300 blackout edition how to do it right
It makes sense for a lot of folks.
I’m saving
lets say I got 300 blk / 308 / 458 socom in my collection
whats the benefit of this 8.6?
More energy on target if you're playing with subsonics. supersonics just stick with 308
@@hydrophilicchristopher9874 458 socom puts way more energy on target subsonic than 8.6 blackout. Do the math. 458 socom subs are heavier than 8.6 subs.
8.6 blackout might be the most versatile cartridge/round ever created.
I wouldn’t go that far. Needs to be proven.
I'm just waiting for a barrel to be available.... and ammo.
Barrels are out there, ammo still waiting.
@@pcb8639 they disappeared in under an hour. I've been waiting for another run. Being "out there" isn't really ideal when they barrels out there are spoken for.
@@ravissary79 Faxon have some barrels but it depends on what system you are using it on.
@@pcb8639 I've had an ar10 pistol build ready to go for half a year. I'm waiting for a 12". It's just a matter of time.
@@ravissary79 Yes Sir and good luck.
2:00 Too bad I’m not a 1 MOA shooter. 😢
If you're a 3 MOA shooter and you have a 1 MOA gun... you get 3 MOA. BUT if you're a 3 MOA shooter and you gave a 3 MOA gun... oof. What, maybe 6 MOA on a bad day?
All tolerances stack. All variables stack. Nail down whats easiest to nail down first and reap an instant reward.
@@ravissary79 I agree with you. At least that’s how I justify better guns than I deserve. Looking forward to 8.6.
Why is 8.6 fix a sbr and mini fix not?
Pistol brace vs stock. Mini fix can be an SBR with stock attached.
Why didn’t they put brace on 8.6 like mini was question
@@BB-ss3mw because why would they make anything new with a brace? They aren’t going to be an option soon. I love that everyone is just ignoring the fact that braces are going to be illegal soon. It’s like if they don’t acknowledge it, it won’t happen lmao.
But, can it penetrate armor better then 9x39?
There is a few videos that show the truth of the armor penetration of the 9x39mm, even with the AP ammo it is really similar to 300 BLK.
9x39 is significantly worse than it was made out to be
@@domostructor147 but quite good if you have in mind the year It was made.
@@nestorarcilaosorio2457 good point
@@domostructor147 honestly, with updated tech and a gun that can run subs and supers 9x39 could be ALMOST as good as 8.6... but no one is doing this, and in the AR I don't think the bolts can handle a supercharged 9x39.
8.6 seems better in almost every conceivable way except frame/magazine size... and frankly modern materials make up for that a lot.
Because .338 bullets are so cheap and .300BO is so unreliable....
Hey this post still has the comments turned on! Jk. I’m looking forward to getting my hands on some 8.6.
I hear a lot of BIG talk....
Nothing stopping you from getting off your ass and innovating. There's never a shortage of critics.
@@FearNoSteel imagine getting this defensive over something nobody's got their hands on lol.
@@hydrophilicchristopher9874 Imagine Wendy's 👀