The Forgotten Weapons guy recently did a history on why we have SBRs. It goes back to the original NFA when they tried to ban almost everything, including handguns. They then banned short barrel rifles because they thought people would just chop rifles to make up for lost pistols. The handgun part got removed because 2A but the SBR part stayed. It really is that stupid.
The governments new tactic in court post bruen is to try to classify and exclude certain classes of American from "the people" as referred to in the constitution. Basically non law abiding people like people who smoke marijuana are by nature immoral and should not be protected by the constitution because they are not "the people" in the eyes of the government. Daddy gov says "The people" only refers to law abiding citizens. They are that disingenuous... jim crow laws did the same thing. They removed blacks and Indians from being"People" as recognized by the constitution. The government wants to pick and choose who is virtuous enough to be afforded their own inalienable rights... All gun laws are rooted in horribly racist ideals. They were never enforced on white people by design. The government is now defending those laws and saying they are the precedent for further restrictions of every law abiding citizen. Never comply. Absolutely do not register a god damn thing. EVER. Period. Anything. There has never been a gun problem in this country. Only a control problem.
"Prison is stupid." "ATF is stupid." Theres a Tshirt idea to sell in order to support FRAC Action. Another one would be orange jumpsuit color that says "I complied with the ATF and all I got was this stupid shirt."
I understand exactly what you are saying. No need to do anything else. I remember when ATF went after Q and you did the right thing which is one of the reasons I own your products.
Kev, bro, I love you and Q. You remind me so much of John Noveske, (RIP). I’m happy Q and you are a thing in this world. The industry needs more guys like you and more companies like Q. -Abolish the ATF and the NFA. I won’t be satisfied until I can mail order a Stoner LMG or Swedish K with zero background checks or extortion tax.
All the flip-flopping from the ATF is the main reason I haven't bought a pistol brace over the years. I don't want to go buy things that are legal today and a felony tomorrow. The NFA is dumb
Agreed. I had a G1 Sig MPX with the brace, which actually had a legit piece of paper from the ATF saying it was ok, and I admittedly sold it at peak c19 pricing. I saw the writing.. the NFA and the ATF is general are crap, but legal is legal.........
@@jamesborek8125 ppl like you are why ATF feels like they can ban braces and then all a.r./ak pistols followed by PCC's like the mp5 and ending with all semi automatic firearms including pistols. thats right, they want to bring back the ORIGINAL draft of the NFA which prohibited all pistols & was the entire reason for the barrel length requirement in the first place.
You should put the bolt lever on the left hand side for your pistol bolt actions you make, you know since you use the right hand to hold the pistol grip and the left hand to change rounds anyway.
As I agree that's a great idea I know I would still instinctively use my right hand from all the other bolt guns I have lol it would take some time for me to register its on the left
Told ya Selling Q gear is how they make money to feed their families. No point being on the wrong side of the gubment when people depend on you for the livelihood.
The Federal government wanted to ban pistols, (and Silencers and machine guns) but they knew they couldn't because of the 2nd amendment. So, they cooked up a scheme to add a $200 tax, that would make pistols cost-prohibitive. Knowing that Americans would find a way around a pistol ban, the Feds formulated a solution and required rifles and shotguns to have an overall length of 26" and a barrel length of 18". Since American ingenuity was likely to find another workaround, the feds had an added tax for Any Other Weapon (AOW) to cover technology that wasn't invented yet. Almost immediately there was so much pushback, that the feds had to abandon the handgun tax scheme, and removed them from the bill. However, they kept the SBR, SBS, and AOW provisions, the solution to the pistol tax. Soon after this NFA 34 law was enacted manufacturers of .22 caliber rifles complained that the majority of the rifles they made were 16" barreled, so the Feds caved, and declared .22 rifles had to be at least 16", but all other rifles and shotguns must be 18". The law stayed like this for 30 years.... Then, the Federal government surplused millions of M1 carbines to the general public before realizing that the carbines had 17.75" barrels!! The solution to this fiasco was the change to 16+" for all rifles, while shotguns remained 18". SBR, SBS, and AOW regs should be removed from the NFA, it was an overreaching solution to the proposed handgun ban that never happened. One last thing. The Hughes amendment is illegal. It was defeated by vote, and illegally put into the 86 gca by crooked democrats. You can see the video of the vote here on CZcams.
I have an idea. Maybe sell “rifle conversion kits” that includes a stock and a reduced priced 16 inch barrel. Just a suggestion. It would provide proof that people buy the stock are intending to install the 16” barrel first.
Something companies can do, but never do, id refuse to sell to the feds. Fullill existing contracts and whatnot, of course, but if a company is selling the federal government a product they cant sell to citizens theyre part of the problem. And dont say theres no money in it, theres way too many civilians to say theres no money in it and refusing government contracts is its own sales pitch.
^ THIS! 💯 The civilian market consistently outsells the government/military 2-3x and not at contract “lowest bidder wins" pricing either! Alphabet soup agencies should all be told to f-off until such time as civilians can purchase the same product with the same (lack of) restrictions!
Good content man and in the end all those non comply guys down in the comments yea there all gonna comply it’s the reason they all put a brace on in the first place and not a stock and been a outlaw too begin with
? ...love the vid..you show your "new pistol" without the arms brace and then say we can SBR it and put whatever stock I want on it So if I do a form 1 on your pistol do I have to engrave my personal info on it ? Thank You
Took me 11 months to legally register my Honey Badger SBR. So I’m a bit peeved at the 120 days. This new law could have been better thought out. Personally for a couple other guns I have, some will be registered or made compliant. But I’ll still fight legally. And I will keep trying to convince everyone how silly the laws are and hopefully get them changed. Because they will continue to try to ban guns, one step at a time. Educating non gun people is the key.
Good video. Glad you didn’t just throw up your hands and say “Fine, I quit!” It amazes me that as strict as Canada’s laws are, they can have SBRs and we can’t… land of the free, and we cannot have a rifle with barrel shorter than 16”. Makes sense.
@notmenorwhere. I know it’s not easy, but move to a free state. California attacks all your rights. 1st and 2nd amendment, and their tax laws getting worse.
Maybe by the time the dust settles.. there's no more GCA, NFA, nor any amendments/additions to either, and... maybe.. Alcohol Tobacco Firearms becomes a chain of convenience stores.
The NFA is unconstitutional as applied to individuals. He’s 100% right though. FFL holders don’t have rights anymore per se, as they have contracted with the federal government to be involved in interstate commerce of firearms. The right to keep and bear, shall not be infringed.
Yes! Exactly! There shouldn't be any concept of AOW, SBR, or SBS! They are BS! I should be able to put a stock and a foregrip on my pistol to turn it into a carbine without any hassle, and I'm not talking not those so-called "pistols" because of the dumb laws, but the real pistols we all know! For rifles and shotguns, they shouldn not have any barrel length restriction! Suppressors? They are just another muzzle device! We should be able to buy any of these "NFA items" without any dumb tax stamp, stacks of paperwork, 6-month waiting, and hassle! Yes, machine guns should be more available, too! And I strongly believe that school system should teach kids how to handle firearms safely and have respect for them.
That's my argument! TF is wrong with a short barrel, that you need to restrict them? It's still a gun It's still dangerous regardless of length! And no, it's impossible to make the claim of concealment. You can conceal a 16in AR as well!
Just bought a sugar weasel pistol with no brace today. I don’t fucking care about this pistol brace nonsense. One way or another it will become an sbr legally. Love you guys. No pistol brace just makes me stop being lazy and just form 1 it already.
People talk so much shit about KB but he's a straight shooter making kick ass products and his CS team has always gone above and beyond whenever I've had an issue - even when it was my dumbass fault. Live Q or die bitches.
You have your responsibility as a business to comply in whatever manner you need to but do not advocate for regular citizens to. That will do nothing to stop the unconstitutional overreach.
Idk why they think a mass sbr registry is going to function at all when they can’t even streamline the suppressor process after so many years of it failing
Fighting the man...same ole story. Terrible. So stupid, just really stupid. ATF is just a puppet people. We appreciate your company and your voice Kevin. Prison does suck. Especially for us straight guys....Keep the faith. Love me SB Tactical. Feel sorry for them and their employees.
@@the1andonlySherlock dude stop it. You’re out of your mind. And then what happens when Kevin and Q go broke and lose in court??? Then what? I have a feeling guys like you wouldn’t put your money where your mouth is then either…just stop.
@@markwurz8577 I'd rather live in a world where people lived by their principles, instead of compromising like cowards. A world where Q went out of business because they were fighting the ATF in court is a better world where they turned tail and licked their boots.
You should probably work on some pin and weld options. Seems like you could design a giant brake that would get you to 16” then design a sleeve that could be added to turn it into a suppressor.
I purchased a HoneyBadger SD SBR today.😁 And got to shoot it! Holy Shit it’s Amazing!!! And Kevin is right, when he says “No one is going to steal my sunshine!” Buy it as Q intended put a stock on it. Jump through whatever hoops you have to because basking in the glorious sunshine is freaking Awesome!!! And doing it with a Q Honey Badger SD SBR is probably the most rad way to do it. 😏👍
We should be worrying about getting the whole damn and a favorite pill not fighting over braces, which is just a crutch for not being able to put a stock on it short barreled rifle. Just like bump stocks, her crotch for not being able to get machine guns. Stop fighting for the Band-Aid and fight for the cure! Bring down the NFA as a whole! Don’t fight for toys!
Have you thought about this being the first steps to you not shipping at all? They want you out of business Kevin. If you have a 2A right to own firearms, then you have a 2A right to sell and manufacture firearms, if not, then how can we own em?
The Forgotten Weapons guy recently did a history on why we have SBRs. It goes back to the original NFA when they tried to ban almost everything, including handguns. They then banned short barrel rifles because they thought people would just chop rifles to make up for lost pistols. The handgun part got removed because 2A but the SBR part stayed. It really is that stupid.
The governments new tactic in court post bruen is to try to classify and exclude certain classes of American from "the people" as referred to in the constitution. Basically non law abiding people like people who smoke marijuana are by nature immoral and should not be protected by the constitution because they are not "the people" in the eyes of the government. Daddy gov says "The people" only refers to law abiding citizens. They are that disingenuous... jim crow laws did the same thing. They removed blacks and Indians from being"People" as recognized by the constitution. The government wants to pick and choose who is virtuous enough to be afforded their own inalienable rights... All gun laws are rooted in horribly racist ideals. They were never enforced on white people by design. The government is now defending those laws and saying they are the precedent for further restrictions of every law abiding citizen. Never comply. Absolutely do not register a god damn thing. EVER. Period. Anything. There has never been a gun problem in this country. Only a control problem.
Well, it's still stupid 'cause the ATF should not be enforcing its own laws. That holds a SERIOUSLY bad legal precedent.
"Prison is stupid."
"ATF is stupid."
Theres a Tshirt idea to sell in order to support FRAC Action.
Another one would be orange jumpsuit color that says "I complied with the ATF and all I got was this stupid shirt."
The real question is why do we even have the FFL? Why should the government get the final say on who can make a firearm or sell one?
I understand exactly what you are saying. No need to do anything else. I remember when ATF went after Q and you did the right thing which is one of the reasons I own your products.
Kevin, straight to the point like always.
Keep doing what ya gotta do man. Always gonna be a bump in tha road you gotta get over.
🤣Kevin you're a hoot. Keep these segments coming. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Kev, bro, I love you and Q. You remind me so much of John Noveske, (RIP). I’m happy Q and you are a thing in this world. The industry needs more guys like you and more companies like Q.
-Abolish the ATF and the NFA. I won’t be satisfied until I can mail order a Stoner LMG or Swedish K with zero background checks or extortion tax.
Yep.
This video is an absolute masterpiece
Totally agree with you. Keep on doing what you're doing
All the flip-flopping from the ATF is the main reason I haven't bought a pistol brace over the years. I don't want to go buy things that are legal today and a felony tomorrow. The NFA is dumb
Agreed. I had a G1 Sig MPX with the brace, which actually had a legit piece of paper from the ATF saying it was ok, and I admittedly sold it at peak c19 pricing. I saw the writing.. the NFA and the ATF is general are crap, but legal is legal.........
Yea I just bought all SBRs over the years since I had a gut feeling they’d be cunts at some point.
better hope you dont own an a.r, a pistol, or a magazine
@@jamesborek8125 ppl like you are why ATF feels like they can ban braces and then all a.r./ak pistols followed by PCC's like the mp5 and ending with all semi automatic firearms including pistols. thats right, they want to bring back the ORIGINAL draft of the NFA which prohibited all pistols & was the entire reason for the barrel length requirement in the first place.
That’s not a reason to NOT buy a brace. They said it was legal. That should mean something.
Great video! Buying the fix to support and because its awesome.
Lol, you just got a sub, just 1st video I have seen on this channel, and just blunt content made it possible ☺️👍🏾
Cool video. I appreciate getting to see this quagmire of ATF BS from a different angle. Keep up the fight Sir!
The Honey Badger on Call of Duty is my favorite haha. Thank you for your input sir! Thank you for what you do!
You should put the bolt lever on the left hand side for your pistol bolt actions you make, you know since you use the right hand to hold the pistol grip and the left hand to change rounds anyway.
As I agree that's a great idea I know I would still instinctively use my right hand from all the other bolt guns I have lol it would take some time for me to register its on the left
Keep giving us options (way back, I bought the 16” bbl Honey Badger and over time got the parts from you guys and registered it as an SBR)
Told ya
Selling Q gear is how they make money to feed their families. No point being on the wrong side of the gubment when people depend on you for the livelihood.
I just purchased my first thunder chicken last night, my second can overall.
great video. solid, honest, and grateful. well done, sir!
Glad it was helpful!
Well said KB. The whole thing sucks but I think you are nailing it on the head here.
The Federal government wanted to ban pistols, (and Silencers and machine guns) but they knew they couldn't because of the 2nd amendment. So, they cooked up a scheme to add a $200 tax, that would make pistols cost-prohibitive. Knowing that Americans would find a way around a pistol ban, the Feds formulated a solution and required rifles and shotguns to have an overall length of 26" and a barrel length of 18". Since American ingenuity was likely to find another workaround, the feds had an added tax for Any Other Weapon (AOW) to cover technology that wasn't invented yet. Almost immediately there was so much pushback, that the feds had to abandon the handgun tax scheme, and removed them from the bill. However, they kept the SBR, SBS, and AOW provisions, the solution to the pistol tax.
Soon after this NFA 34 law was enacted manufacturers of .22 caliber rifles complained that the majority of the rifles they made were 16" barreled, so the Feds caved, and declared .22 rifles had to be at least 16", but all other rifles and shotguns must be 18".
The law stayed like this for 30 years....
Then, the Federal government surplused millions of M1 carbines to the general public before realizing that the carbines had 17.75" barrels!!
The solution to this fiasco was the change to 16+" for all rifles, while shotguns remained 18".
SBR, SBS, and AOW regs should be removed from the NFA, it was an overreaching solution to the proposed handgun ban that never happened.
One last thing. The Hughes amendment is illegal. It was defeated by vote, and illegally put into the 86 gca by crooked democrats. You can see the video of the vote here on CZcams.
And I think it’s time for me to go in serious debt by supporting Q!
Thanks for the heads up on frac
I support you guys!!!! Please keep it up
Such a great video!
First video I have seen by you.... awesome video.
Well Said Cheers
Great job Keb!
I have an idea. Maybe sell “rifle conversion kits” that includes a stock and a reduced priced 16 inch barrel. Just a suggestion. It would provide proof that people buy the stock are intending to install the 16” barrel first.
Lol I love these videos where common sense is spoken in such an eloquent way.
Yep. Support SB definitely
This was great! 😂
The Fix in 8.6 pistol configuration.. That’s what I need.
Something companies can do, but never do, id refuse to sell to the feds. Fullill existing contracts and whatnot, of course, but if a company is selling the federal government a product they cant sell to citizens theyre part of the problem.
And dont say theres no money in it, theres way too many civilians to say theres no money in it and refusing government contracts is its own sales pitch.
^ THIS! 💯 The civilian market consistently outsells the government/military 2-3x and not at contract “lowest bidder wins" pricing either! Alphabet soup agencies should all be told to f-off until such time as civilians can purchase the same product with the same (lack of) restrictions!
So good. Never seen KB before, but now I'm a fan.
Best segment yet
As a retired police officer who loathes the feds, most southern police do, I say fight ATF.
Kevin's position is very clear. We need to call for defunding the GOV!
Thanks for keepin it real Kevin 😂
Good content man and in the end all those non comply guys down in the comments yea there all gonna comply it’s the reason they all put a brace on in the first place and not a stock and been a outlaw too begin with
Call of duty is awesome. So is the honey badger. 🔥🔥🔥🤙🇺🇸💯
? ...love the vid..you show your "new pistol" without the arms brace and then say we can SBR it and put whatever stock I want on it
So if I do a form 1 on your pistol do I have to engrave my personal info on it ?
Thank You
Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.
Who thought four simple words could be so confusing to certain three letter agencies?
Took me 11 months to legally register my Honey Badger SBR. So I’m a bit peeved at the 120 days. This new law could have been better thought out. Personally for a couple other guns I have, some will be registered or made compliant. But I’ll still fight legally. And I will keep trying to convince everyone how silly the laws are and hopefully get them changed. Because they will continue to try to ban guns, one step at a time. Educating non gun people is the key.
Good video. Glad you didn’t just throw up your hands and say “Fine, I quit!”
It amazes me that as strict as Canada’s laws are, they can have SBRs and we can’t… land of the free, and we cannot have a rifle with barrel shorter than 16”. Makes sense.
Already got the gold skin for the badger. It is the best gun in the game.
The 2nd says very plainly, "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" They infringe ALL THE FUCKING TIME !
Best gun ever. This brace rule just eliminates all possibilities of us Californian to ever own a proper honey badger. 1/31/2023, something in me dies.
@notmenorwhere. I know it’s not easy, but move to a free state. California attacks all your rights. 1st and 2nd amendment, and their tax laws getting worse.
Yeah, it's completely bs. Hate this fucking state.
Gunna buy some more Q pew and eat more pizza like KB do BABY getting that boombox ❤
Thanks Kevin
Maybe by the time the dust settles.. there's no more GCA, NFA, nor any amendments/additions to either, and...
maybe.. Alcohol Tobacco Firearms becomes a chain of convenience stores.
Enjoyed this
Because you value your life.
We all know the reason, probably no one was gonna say anything out loud, but we all know the reason.
Something Stupid! Keep up the good work. Thanks for putting this out there.
He's right.
The NFA is unconstitutional as applied to individuals. He’s 100% right though. FFL holders don’t have rights anymore per se, as they have contracted with the federal government to be involved in interstate commerce of firearms. The right to keep and bear, shall not be infringed.
My Honey Badger is an SBR from the start. But my Banshee dgaf about the ATF.
Thanks for adding common sense into this debate.
Yes! Exactly! There shouldn't be any concept of AOW, SBR, or SBS! They are BS! I should be able to put a stock and a foregrip on my pistol to turn it into a carbine without any hassle, and I'm not talking not those so-called "pistols" because of the dumb laws, but the real pistols we all know! For rifles and shotguns, they shouldn not have any barrel length restriction! Suppressors? They are just another muzzle device! We should be able to buy any of these "NFA items" without any dumb tax stamp, stacks of paperwork, 6-month waiting, and hassle! Yes, machine guns should be more available, too! And I strongly believe that school system should teach kids how to handle firearms safely and have respect for them.
Well said
Please make a Boombox SD with a shrouding handguard!
So we should see Mini Fix’s without the brace!! Please!! I’ll buy one tomorrow
To clarify I know they already sell them without the brace you just can’t find them anywhere
Go to piece of mind g*ns
🇺🇸💯
How about stocking some stocks? I've been on waitlist for almost a year trying to purchase a stock for my Mini Fix.
You can get one at piece of mind g*ns.
Do you offer a 16in barrel for honeybadger?
Can you guys please do a vid on how to install the brace? Or are you not allowed?
Haven't been allowed. We don't want strikes.
That's my argument! TF is wrong with a short barrel, that you need to restrict them? It's still a gun It's still dangerous regardless of length! And no, it's impossible to make the claim of concealment. You can conceal a 16in AR as well!
There’s no way 10 million ppl are getting free SBR stamps..
It’s gonna end bad
Any Q cans pin and weldable ?
A true American. 👍
Pistol Buffer tube for the Honey Badger until this gets fixed?
Just bought a sugar weasel pistol with no brace today. I don’t fucking care about this pistol brace nonsense. One way or another it will become an sbr legally. Love you guys. No pistol brace just makes me stop being lazy and just form 1 it already.
People talk so much shit about KB but he's a straight shooter making kick ass products and his CS team has always gone above and beyond whenever I've had an issue - even when it was my dumbass fault. Live Q or die bitches.
Love the support!
You have your responsibility as a business to comply in whatever manner you need to but do not advocate for regular citizens to. That will do nothing to stop the unconstitutional overreach.
Should team up with call of duty and vaultek make a kit that comes with the weapons case and honey badger.
Definitely putting money aside for the sugar weasel in 300 SD
Idk why they think a mass sbr registry is going to function at all when they can’t even streamline the suppressor process after so many years of it failing
That 120 days hopefully is based off the day you file, not approval. That takes a long time on a good day. Dang even full auto guns got a better deal
The reason folks comply is the cruel and unusual $250,000 fine and 10 yrs.
SB Tactical has the best customer service!!!
So comply ? And give donation or don’t comply and give donations ? I’m confused.
Call of duty actually put the Honey badger in the new game but named it something different to not pay you guys and not get into legal trouble 😂
The real issue is the definition of a pistol ... That needs to be changed to avoid penalizing people in the masses.....
Period
Id put a hb stock assembly on my hb pistol IF THEY WERE EVER IN STOCK…ANYWHERE!
ATFs pistol of the year...
Yeah like redacted concepts! Also a great company
Fighting the man...same ole story. Terrible. So stupid, just really stupid. ATF is just a puppet people. We appreciate your company and your voice Kevin. Prison does suck. Especially for us straight guys....Keep the faith. Love me SB Tactical. Feel sorry for them and their employees.
Stand and fight the fight the rest of us can't. We can't afford the lawsuit, you can.
Yea Kevin, go broke for us…
@@markwurz8577 do you realize how much support Q would gain if they openly fought the ATF in court? Just look at KE Arms and their lawsuit.
@@the1andonlySherlock dude stop it. You’re out of your mind. And then what happens when Kevin and Q go broke and lose in court??? Then what? I have a feeling guys like you wouldn’t put your money where your mouth is then either…just stop.
@@markwurz8577 I'd rather live in a world where people lived by their principles, instead of compromising like cowards. A world where Q went out of business because they were fighting the ATF in court is a better world where they turned tail and licked their boots.
nice
You should probably work on some pin and weld options. Seems like you could design a giant brake that would get you to 16” then design a sleeve that could be added to turn it into a suppressor.
Gotta luv Kevin speakin
tha fire bitchess
Don’t forget to donate to FPC, GOA, 2nd Amendment foundation and like Kevin said FRAC.
Also my Honey Banger is form4 jail right now. 😢
Q❤
I purchased a HoneyBadger SD SBR today.😁 And got to shoot it! Holy Shit it’s Amazing!!! And Kevin is right, when he says “No one is going to steal my sunshine!” Buy it as Q intended put a stock on it. Jump through whatever hoops you have to because basking in the glorious sunshine is freaking Awesome!!! And doing it with a Q Honey Badger SD SBR is probably the most rad way to do it. 😏👍
Why pay alimony?
I live California. Just to confirm: I can't buy any of Q's shat, can I? 💀
California Compliant October 2023. Shhhh
@@qllc8143 Sugar Weasel CA Compliant version? What's this in reference to? :)
You can get their sugar weasel.
07:54 👍
No 4
We should be worrying about getting the whole damn and a favorite pill not fighting over braces, which is just a crutch for not being able to put a stock on it short barreled rifle. Just like bump stocks, her crotch for not being able to get machine guns. Stop fighting for the Band-Aid and fight for the cure! Bring down the NFA as a whole! Don’t fight for toys!
Have you thought about this being the first steps to you not shipping at all?
They want you out of business Kevin.
If you have a 2A right to own firearms, then you have a 2A right to sell and manufacture firearms, if not, then how can we own em?